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Hurricane Sandy Nears East Coast

An anonymous reader writes "Scientists have been following and projecting Sandy's path with all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also gathers information from special reconnaissance aircraft, which fly over hurricanes and can drop instruments into them to measure wind speeds, air pressure, temperature, and altitude. The latest data gathered on Hurricane Sandy point to an unprecedented and mighty tempest, scientists say." A couple of our East Coast offices are closed today and people have been told to work from home. Please share your storm stories, and updates while you still have internet access.

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  1. Amazon by GeneralTurgidson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure it will somehow take AWS down :)

    1. Re:Amazon by evafan76 · · Score: 2

      I'm sure it will somehow take AWS down :)

      As a DC area resident who works in Reston (where Amazon's servers are), signs point to YES. Especially since DC area residents have already settled into "PANIC!" mode which includes posting on Facebook on how everybody is going to die and how the Mayans were right, buying every roll of toilet paper and every tube of pimple cream in the grocery store, filling their Viagra prescriptions so they can die happy, hiding in their basements, and emerging 2 days later asking "Why was everybody panicking?" This process also includes everybody jamming on to I-66 at the same time (more so than usual). This response is the same whether it is a hurricane, or just a dusting of snow. Doesn't this make your confident about the people who run your government?

  2. Wall St. Closed by necro81 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting factoid I heard on my way into work: all the major banks and trading centers in New York City are closed today in anticipation. The last time that happened due to weather was for Hurricane Gloria back in 1985. Given the fact that Wall St. is just a few blocks from the water on three sides, and all of about 5 feet above sea level (depending on the tides), I'm surprised it isn't more frequent than that.

    1. Re:Wall St. Closed by Dupple · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wall Street might be closed but the Wall Street Journal is open however. Both they and the NYT have removed their pay walls for the duration of the storm

      http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/193261/new-york-times-to-suspend-paywall-for-hurricane-sandy/

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    2. Re:Wall St. Closed by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Funny

      In unrelated news, the crime rate in New York is down dramatically today, as the number of frauds committed dropped dramatically.

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    3. Re:Wall St. Closed by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      North of Baltimore (roughly) hurricanes coming onshore are pretty rare... But if you're not prepared/built for it, even a Class I hurricane can handle you pretty roughly.

    4. Re:Wall St. Closed by cod3r_ · · Score: 2

      Sweet! Economy will start to function normally then. Hopefully power is out for a few days we might just get right out of this economic crisis.

    5. Re:Wall St. Closed by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. Imagine the mess South Florida would have if a freak winter storm dumped 2 inches of real mid-afternoon snow on downtown Miami and the surrounding 3 counties, and it kept coming down all night so that we woke up the next morning to a city where every road was impassable to anything less than a SUV or truck, seriously dangerous regardless, and every vehicle that was outside overnight had ice crusted over the windshield wipers. We'd have people getting electrocuted trying to melt ice on the windshield with blow dryers (until the weight of the ice caused the power lines to fall down), and I shudder to imagine the carnage on I-95 and 836 when drivers who can't even avoid accidents during afternoon rainstorms suddenly had to deal with ICE.

      A category 1 hurricane making landfall in South Florida is like a "Snow Day" in Cleveland or Buffalo -- work from home today, limp and tipetoe around tomorrow, life as normal on day 3. An afternoon snowstorm that persists into the night would shut down South Florida for almost a week, and probably cause more deaths than a landfalling hurricane.

    6. Re:Wall St. Closed by EvilSS · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't have to imagine that. A little farther north than Miami, but I remember Christmas of, I believe it was 1989, we had an inch of ice followed by about two inches of snow in Jacksonville, FL. Entire city had to shut down and people were stranded for up to a week because all the bridges had to be closed. There was nothing the road department could do. They didn't have the equipment to deal with it. Of course as a kid, I thought it was awesome.

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    7. Re:Wall St. Closed by guttentag · · Score: 2

      But that doesn't make sense. Most of the trading volume is done by high speed trading computers which live on site and aren't affected by the transit shutdown. They could keep trading all day. They just wouldn't have any humans to take advantage of. Oh, wait... You mean they're useless beyond their capacity to cheat humans? Can't they just cheat each other today? Or would that not be as much fun?

    8. Re:Wall St. Closed by Migraineman · · Score: 2

      wife: " ... and stay the hell out of my lingere drawer."

  3. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It doesn't take long for the second guessers to arrive, does it?

    Sometimes they even show up too early.

  4. Ollie Williams reports by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Funny
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  5. Prepared by areusche · · Score: 5, Funny

    Room mates got a little nutty with the disaster preparedness. I took it a step further and bought a cooler, bag of ice, and a 24 pack of Corona. Bring it Sandy!

    1. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      a 24 pack of Corona.

      Store already sold out of bottled water, huh?

    2. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, all they have is canned water (aka Bud Light)

    3. Re:Prepared by cffrost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      a 24 pack of Corona

      Granted, Corona is pretty reliable, but aren't cyanide capsules a more humane way of dispatching oneself?

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  6. Technology zilch compared to nature by jkrise · · Score: 3, Insightful

    all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling.

    At times like these, the only technology is that which helps in mass exodus, plain and simple values like sharing and caring; and them coming back to pick up the pieces all over again.

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    1. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Really? So where do you propose we should be moving everyone that is at zero risk from hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, tornadoes, floods, wildfires, and any other natural disasters i'm forgetting about right now?

      I don't know about the rest of the world, but in North America we'd pretty much have to move the entire population of Mexico, the US and southern Canada up into the Canadian Shield. Trying to move close to half a billion people into north-east Canada would be a logistics and economic nightmare, and i'm pretty sure the kinds of moves that would be required in other parts of the world would be equally drastic.

      Realistically, if we don't want to pack all of humanity into tiny fractions of the earth's surface, we have to accept that almost everywhere people live is going to be subject to the occasional natural disaster. Yes, we should avoid the _worst_ areas and/or have contingency plans for those spots, but we're not going to be able to avoid everything.

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  7. and the band played on. by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since most of my family is up in that part of the nation, thru are getting the for measure of fright. but for the NY and Maryland regions, this is more about the water. Manhattan will be in a position similar to NO, except no river, just storm surge, and not as many pumps.

    And sustained wind.

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    1. Re:and the band played on. by Alien+Being · · Score: 3, Funny

      I wish I knew. Apparently it's quite insightful.

  8. In New York City by sticky.pirate · · Score: 5, Informative

    My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home, and the subway and buses have been shut down since 7pm Sunday evening. Right now (8:30am Monday) we've got some small wind gusts and scattered rain.

    1. Re:In New York City by AbrasiveCat · · Score: 2

      My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home,.

      So we can expect more posts to slashdot today?

  9. No work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in south Alabama, we get plenty of hurricanes. I have to drive across Mobile Bay in order to get to work. Unless there is over 100mph winds, I have to go to work. I work in an office, punching buttons on a computer. The company that I work for has a main office in the effected area of this storm, and although the storm is still waaaay the fuck out in the Atlantic ocean (yes, it's waaay the fuck out since it's only 85mph winds), we get word that the main office is closing Monday (we got word on this Friday). I have never understood the mindset behind who I work for. I think a better question would be, "What is considered dangerous-enough weather to close an office?" Because here recently I had to drive across 7 miles of open water in over 100mph gusts, and many roads were closed due to flooding during hurricane Isaac.

    1. Re:No work? by Lieutenant_Dan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hear you. The elements that you have to face is different than what senior management is willing to face. Two sets of rules. They don't mind putting you in harm's way while they spend the day at home watching Sportcenter.

      Can't ask your manager for remote access to your terminal and/or tools?

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    2. Re:No work? by cmburns69 · · Score: 2

      I live in Utah, where we regularly get snow. We almost never close schools because of the weather, and I can think of exactly one time in my adult life when work was called off early due to snow (and that event fizzled into nothing).

      In Texas, when they get even half an inch of snow, everything shuts down!

      The point being that we are much more well equipped to deal with that kind of weather event here in Utah than they are in Texas. I imagine some of the same is in play in your situation.

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  10. Re:divine punishment by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, we're being rewarded by having very mild storms compared to many of the other planets in our solar system.

  11. Re:divine punishment by Coisiche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, it could be spun for or against either candidate.

    That's the problem with self-styled religious oracles claiming omens, it's always down to their personal agenda and there's nothing divine about that. The simple truth is that shit happens and the universe is indifferent.

  12. See what happens? by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Started as a minor storm but the press have blown it out of all proportion. Now is a big one.

    1. Re:See what happens? by cffrost · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, all that hot air can evaporate a lot of water.

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    2. Re:See what happens? by slashmydots · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Amen to that! Any news agency with a presence in New York (all of them) turn it into the end of the world. The last time New York had a snow storm, CNN covered it like it was the black death. Meanwhile, Wisconsin got slightly more snow than they did and nobody gave a shit. Seriously, we were out shopping and driving and tailgating Packer games like it was normal weather, seeing as how it was. This is a class 1 hurricane. Time to un-bundle their undees and report on something useful and just pack a goddam umbrella.

    3. Re:See what happens? by deains · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's the same everywhere really. Not a single snowflake can fall on Greater London without half the British press running a story about it, meanwhile in the North of England and Scotland, it could be 10 feet of snow and the media wouldn't even blink an eye. It's all about perspective, and the world experience of a journalist stuck working in a dingy skyscraper all day is very limited.

    4. Re:See what happens? by bws111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.

      Do you realize how many people live in that area? And, OK, it is 'only' a Category 1 storm, so the most likely effects (away from the coast) is power outages. Except that when the entire mid-Atantic and Northeast regions are covered, there is no help available from neighboring states.

      And, oh yeah, the storm surge at NYC is supposed to be 'only' 8 to 11 feet - which has happened never before. Since much of NYCs infrastructure is underground (including, of course, the subways), this is a big deal, regardless of the category of the storm or what similar storms have done elsewhere.

    5. Re:See what happens? by jittles · · Score: 2

      You don't use an umbrella in a hurricane. The wind will turn the damn thing inside out. Besides, umbrellas are relatively pointless anyway. I don't mind getting a little wet.

    6. Re:See what happens? by DarkOx · · Score: 2

      It really does not take all that much wind or snow load to cause lots power outages. What the utility companies usually do is loan each other extra crews before big weather events. Lots of that has been going on this time naturally.

      The challenge of this storm will be predicting where most of the damage will happen because of its size and actually having the crews near that epicenter of the damage (not always where the epicenter of the storm happens to go) because of its size. If the damage is spread over a large enough area again possible because of its physical size. There may not be enough crews to fix the grid in a timely fashion. Really intensity is not the concern with this one, area is.

      Don't forget all those highways and interstates through Appalachia either. If there is a major fast snow fall and cars and trucks actually get stranded on the roads it becomes a painful slow process to clear them. Many of these are through mountain cuts with little in the way of shoulders even on the inner states like parts of I64. You can't run a plow truck down the road until the autos are cleared out of the way. You can't clear the autos until much of the snow is out of the way. Its a catch-22.

      While I agree the cries of Armageddon from the media are a bit over blown this does have the potential to be disruptive in big way. I will be surprised if we see lots of photos of roofs stripped from buildings and flood ravaged cityscapes, but I won't be surprised at all if there are lots of stranded motorists, cut off towns, and long duration power outages. Its could enough now this time of year to make it not probably not deadly but certainly miserable without electricity most of those places.

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    7. Re:See what happens? by kiwimate · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thanks for injecting some common sense. Slashdotters usually like to sneer at the masses and call it "common sense", but in this case common sense means being prepared.

      The sheer extent of the storm will mean a massive impact. Emergency responders can only work as fast as they can work. The expected number of power outages will mean that linesmen just can't fix them all in a timely manner.

      Philadelphia International Airport has shut down. PHL is the 12th busiest airport in the world. That's a simply huge impact considering the number of people who would ordinarily pass through the area on a given weekday, and the financial losses. It's not a decision they'd make lightly (and an airport has their own very sophisticated weather monitoring and analysis stations).

      Margate, NJ, was already flooded this morning, and the storm has barely even started. It's both massive and slow moving, so it'll be hanging around for ages as it's dumping rain on us.

      Here's Red Hook, Brooklyn, and that's just the beginning.

      Here's more, courtesy of NY Times. They've opened their paywall. Scroll down and have a look at the pictures and remember it's barely started yet.

    8. Re:See what happens? by bws111 · · Score: 2

      And again, your comparisons are meaningless. First, if you are in an area that gets certain kind of weather 'regularly', the same weather is going to affect those areas differently than in areas that don't get that kind of weather. For instance, if you are in an area that regularly gets gale-force winds for days at a time, you are not going to have a lot of trees that lose their limbs or fall over in gale force winds.

      I seem to recall seeing a lot of news reports about drought in those states you mentioned, but not much about the drought in Death Valley. Why the difference?

      And again, the thing that makes weather newsworthy is it's impact on people. There are thousands of times more people going to be affected by this storm than by your storms where very few people live.

    9. Re:See what happens? by bws111 · · Score: 3, Informative

      And since you live on a tropical island with an average of 28 storms a year, you probably have very few large trees that will fall over (on power lines, houses, and roads) or have limbs that will fall off. How would your tropical island fare if suddenly two feet of snow fell on it? Happens all the time here.

      And here's a little geography lesson: the people expected to be impacted from this storm are not 'on the coast' - they are hundeds of miles inland.

  13. Sandy is Wendy by halfkoreanamerican · · Score: 2

    Wilmington, NC asks: What storm?

  14. Don't PANIC! by arcite · · Score: 4, Funny

    God is just visiting New York to cast his early voting ballot.

    1. Re:Don't PANIC! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2

      Don't forget to bring a towel. Proper towel safety and use is important.

    2. Re:Don't PANIC! by eternaldoctorwho · · Score: 3, Funny

      God dammit, Towelie, you're the worst character ever.

    3. Re:Don't PANIC! by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't panic, it's HHGTG, not South Park.

    4. Re:Don't PANIC! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We all know this is a sneaky plot from the Romney camp to disenfranchise liberal voters by sending a massive 1000 mile storm in their path. Huff Post and Daily KOS told me so!

      In all seriousness, if a storm does do significant damage to an area right before/at an election, what do we do? Is this a constitutional crises?

    5. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      We all know this is a sneaky plot from the Romney camp to disenfranchise liberal voters by sending a massive 1000 mile storm in their path. Huff Post and Daily KOS told me so!

      I realize you're making a joke, but do you realize that at least one right-wing radio talking head is accusing President Obama of "seeding" Hurricane Sandy using (you knew it was coming, didn't you) HAARP?

      I'm not going to promote this turd, so you can find out who's making this accusation yourself if you are so inclined.

      So, if you're going to make a sarcastic comment about someone probably accusing someone of a plot to disenfranchise the electorate, you better make sure that someone on your side hasn't already done it.

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    6. Re:Don't PANIC! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 2

      You assume I have a side which is a fair to do, but inaccurate. To make the joke less funny, since I have to explain it, the reason I chose Romney as the supposed cause of the storm and cries of disenfranchisement coming from the left is that it is more common to hear the left make arguments that the right somehow prevents the left from voting rather than the other way around. I'm not saying if they're correct or incorrect in their assessment, but they do make that complaint more. Combine that with the fact that states on the East Coast generally do vote left more than right and it all makes sense in a Huff Post kinda way.

      So if you're somehow offended that I made fun of your religion/political party/value system/whatever, then I apologize. I was just trying to be funny. (Something I don't exactly excel at).

    7. Re:Don't PANIC! by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thanks for your 'voice of reason' post. 'Sandy' has already been the cause of death for over 60 people, so far. This storm is no joke, and to hear how it's being "politicized" is a shame.

    8. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Don't mod me down

      I love it when they beg.

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    9. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      And I'm sure I can find at least one person on the left who has made the same claim about Romney

      OK, please do. Find someone on "the left" with a national profile who has said this.

      I'll wait here.

      See, this "both sides do it" equivalency is false. It's always been false.

      Can we just agree to ignore the crazy people, instead of trying to claim the other side is crazier or made crazy claims first? Please?

      No, we cannot ignore the crazy people, because voters on one side of the political spectrum are electing them to office in large numbers.

      It makes it harder to ignore someone when they are a member of the House of Representatives and sitting on a major committee.

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    10. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To make the joke less funny, since I have to explain it, the reason I chose Romney as the supposed cause of the storm and cries of disenfranchisement coming from the left is that it is more common to hear the left make arguments that the right somehow prevents the left from voting rather than the other way around. I'm not saying if they're correct or incorrect in their assessment, but they do make that complaint more.

      I want to point out just how intellectually dishonest and morally questionable the very common argument that gameboyhippo is making actually is.

      When you have voters being disenfranchised, these people in the "center" who are saying "Oh look, the people being disenfranchised are complaining about being disenfranchised. They're such crybabies" become a double-insult to those people. These are not hypotheticals. There is no "question" about whether there are organized attempts at voter suppression by the Right. There are people, today, in this country who are being prevented from voting in a carefully planned and executed strategy. People who are being registered to vote by Nathan Sproul for the Republican Party who are then having the addresses on their registration form changed so that when they show up to vote they will be required to cast a provisional ballot (which will not be counted). Hundreds of voter registration forms showing up in dumpsters. People in states where the Supreme Court said there can be no voter ID requirement being told that they will go to jail if they try to vote without an ID. Official government notices going to potentially Democratic voters from Republican government officials telling them to vote on November 8 when the election is on November 6.

      And you're joking about how these people being disenfranchised are a bunch of whiners.

      I do assume that you have "a side". You are on the side of the kind of civic cynicism that is poisonous to a society. Whether you meant to or not, you endorse a kind of zombie conventional wisdom that is hurting people. Not hypothetical people, but actual human beings.

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  15. Re:divine punishment by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's the weather like on Kolob?

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  16. If you're working from home... by arcite · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then why are you posting on slashdot? Back to the grindstone with you!

  17. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by ClioCJS · · Score: 2
    True, but here in VA every hurricane has been way overstated. Andrew closed everything and it literally was not even wet afterward. Yea, in 2005, no water for a week, but I didn't run out of water from my normal stock anyway. You know what fucked us up? The derecho -- more than anything in my life. And there was no warning for that. Most people didn't have power for a week, though I only lost it for 5 minutes (no internet for 12 hrs was the ahrd part). So having lived here 38 yrs, I've learned that the panic is generally greater than the actual threat. ... so my bet is on the second-guessers.

    The hurricanes last year put a stick on my roof. Possibly did knock a knot loose in my roof. Finally patched up the rot that caused Friday in anticipation for today's storm... And that's the most preparation ever.

    Here's some random pictures of past hurricane 'damage' at my house inside the DC beltway, VA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/clintjcl/tags/hurricane

    Now.... Even if I'm usually right on this, that doesn't mean I'm always right... But I hope I am, cause y'know, I don't want a tree to fall on me. Our cars are currently in the school parking lot, away from the trees....

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  18. cause and effect by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It isn't so much a religious omen as a lesson in scientific cause and effect. Neither of the top two presidential candidates has been talking much lately about what's causing this sort of thing, but one of them (Romney) is promising not to do anything about it. If you can make it to the polls, keep that in mind.

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    1. Re:cause and effect by dkf · · Score: 2

      There's no global warming equivalent for earthquakes.

      Except there is. Rising sea levels and changes in precipitation patterns can both alter the loading on faults, and even small changes that way can have big effects through triggering earthquakes and volcanoes (dependent on the local geology, of course). On the other hand, it's very hard to say for sure what the effects will be; you can't predict the size of earthquakes this way, nor the violence of volcanic eruptions. All we can really say is that altering the loading due to water, whether seawater or in an aquifer or in lakes and rivers, can cause the earth to flex somewhat (that's basic physics) and that can in turn trigger more violent earth movement events. (I believe that there has been research that has shown that earthquakes are more likely to happen in spring, typically associated with when most snow melts off mountains, but I could have mis-remembered that.)

      It's all rather non-linear and complicated, so nobody's making any real predictions. After all, it might just cause more very small earthquakes and minor eruptions. We just don't have nearly enough data to be able to guess what the overall effect will be.

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  19. Could be worse, HMS Bounty by OffTheLip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Abandoning ship into 25 foot lifeboats to battle monster seas is bad for the crew and hard work for the Coast Guard tasked with their safety. The graveyard of the Atlantic is set to claim another prize. http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/10/29/coast-guard-monitoring-tall-ship-in-distress-off-north-carolina-with-17-aboard/

    1. Re:Could be worse, HMS Bounty by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      Given that we've had days notice of this storm - what damm fool ordered her out into it?

    2. Re:Could be worse, HMS Bounty by colfer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Docked in port is often more dangerous, to the ship at least. This storm came in on a wide hook so it would have been hard to pick a time to leave, assuming they were ready to go when the first warnings came.

  20. Snowfall by CaroKann · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One interesting aspect about this storm is the snowfall. Snowfall is expected in WV and KY. Moisture from the storm is wrapping around into cold air in the higher elevations. A hurricane producing snow, how unusual! http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/291149.shtml?

  21. Super hyped???? by PortHaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    In 1992, when I was in Connecticut, they hyped a nor'easter. It was to be the worst thing since Hurricane Gloria. It came, it fizzled, it was a little more windy than normal. But seriously, didn't even make me blink. It was hyped the same way Sandy is being hyped.

    Two weeks later another nor'easter approached. The embarrassed media downplayed it. This second storm turned out to be everything the first one wasn't. My school was evacuated. Boats were floating down the road. The pier was 18" under water.

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    My fear is this will fizzle. And then, in a month or so we'll have another storm, and that will be the one that devestates.

  22. "Isn't weather great?!!" by SternisheFan · · Score: 2
    Around Sept.1992, during Hurricane David (I believe), I was helping out my friends. "Warren" had been diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer, and with the aid of his wife and of Hospice, was home to die. In their bedroom was a tv that was tuned to The Weather Channel, playing constantly, 24/7.

    While I was sitting next to a weakened Warren laying in his hospital bed, idly staring at the tv, he turns his gaze to me and with a smile asks, "Isnt weather great?" I agreed, "Yeah, Mother Nature's really cool", or something like that. Warren passed on not too long after that display of nature. That's just one of the many learning moments I received from that time, that good or bad, weather is great!

  23. Google's Crisis Map by TheGreatDuwanee · · Score: 2

    Google has launched a crisis map showing rainfall, active emergency shelters and quite a bit of other info. http://google.org/crisismap/sandy-2012

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  24. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by colfer · · Score: 2

    The U.S. National Weather Service seems careful not to overstate. Then again, few people seem to even understand the difference between a Watch and a Warning. For this storm there is an oddball bureaucratic classification thing keeping the NWS's Hurricane Center from posting tropical warnings north of North Carolina. Kinda amusing... it's a PDF at the top of the Hurricane page... http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ They are handing off to local offices and two more obscure divisions mid-storm: http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/ and http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/

  25. Oblig (can't believe this isn't here yet!) XKCD by IwantToKeepAnon · · Score: 2
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  26. In N.Y., tidal surge is the concern. by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Where I am in Long Island, N.Y. we're predicted to get only 3" of rain from Sandy. The real issue here is the storm's 'tidal surge' to occur Monday evening throughout Tuesday. 75mph gusts, coupled with the full moon's high tide effect will be pushing ocean waves north over the entire southern edge of L.I., with an 11.5 foot surge expected around 9pm Monday night Evacuations in N.Y.C. and everyone south of Sunrise Highway (27) in L.I.'s Nassau County.

    For a storm like this, there's nowhere for this water to go but to get pushed into the 'bowl' of Jamaica Bay and into N.Y.C., and to flood the southern parts of L.I. Also, since L.I. is basically one long 'beach' of sand with 6-10 inches of dirt on it, tree's roots grow spreading outward, not downward to anchor properly into the ground. With water-logged soil, the expected high winds are going to topple trees with ease, and L.I.'s power company is expecting outages to last for up to a week until all repairs are made. It's going to be one heck of a ride!

  27. Really? by mosb1000 · · Score: 2

    An unprecedented and mighty tempest? This is a category 1 hurricane. Since the scale goes up to 5, I think it's safe to say this isn't unprecedented, unless you expect me to believe a hurricane has never hit the eastern seaboard. And don't give me that superstorm nonsense, we've had big snowstorms on the eastern seaboard before. There's nothing unprecedented about it, big storms hit the eastern seaboard every once in a while.

  28. Re:Sensationalism Sucks by SternisheFan · · Score: 2

    When it comes to 'pressure zones', Sandy is considered to be a category Three hurricane.

  29. Utter CHAOS in Upstate New York Already! by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Funny

    The storm must have skipped the seaboard and struck here already. Cars are flying off the road. Buildings and roads are crumbling. People are begging for money on the street while others are shouting religious mantras to nobody in particular. Cell phone service is spotty and gas prices are climbing.

    Oh, wait. It's just Monday. This happens every Monday here. And Tuesday, and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Move along, nothing to see here.

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  30. I've been pretty impressed by the accuracy of the storm track predictions at least so far. The influence of other weather patterns on the the storm is pretty complex this time, and fairly unusual.

    Yet the simulations seem to have been very accurate in predicting what looks like a fairly complex pattern.

  31. The Beginning of the End by notaspy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wednesday, October 31, 2012. RIP USA. In hindsight, it all should have been obvious three days earlier. That would have been early enough to have prevented it - the shockingly abrupt and utter destruction of the Unites States of America.

    On Sunday (that innocent Sunday just before the end of our world), the events on opposite sides of the country seemed natural, coincidental. The Frankenstorm that Sandy was about to become was just another prediction made by a bunch of self-anointed experts. No biggie, New Jersey could use a good scrubbing. A couple. And the earthquake off Alaska was only about as big as the one we had here in New England last week. Meh. The tsunami that hit Hawaii was measured at nearly half an inch. Not even worth a âoemeh.â

    Most people watching the northeast were anticipating a couple days of storm, a week of cleanup, a bunch of bitching about damage, but employment would have went up in a hurry with all the rebuilding and repairs. One of the Presidential canditates would have made it a central theme of his last campaign week â" The Reconstruction of America. The country would come together, mostly, in a national unity of rebuilding. Spirits and the economy would have soared, the elections turning into a catastrophe for one of the major political parties. But none of that happened, it's just the ravings of a lunatic refugee. A refugee with a goatee. Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!!!!! Sorry, I've had a rough three days.

    The Chinese have been doing large-scale meteorological experiments for many years. They were open about their efforts to control the weather for the 2012 Olympics in the Beijing area. There have been articles published in legal and even mass-market periodicals about the scientific, legal and ethical implications of such research have been debated. It wasn't something unknown to the general public. On the other hand, nobody except a few graduate professors and pharmaceutical chemists noticed the paper in the April issue of Chem. Phys. Acta. entitled âoeRacemization of Novel Isotopes of Mercaptothionitrite.â

    The Alaska earthquake (5.5 Richters) on Sunday caused a mass evacuation of Waikiki and other populated regions of the islands. An overabundance of caution maybe, or maybe a proper abundance of caution. Who knows? It's a statistical thing, so I'll get back to you every Sigma, just like with bosons. How many you want? Three? Four? Five? How much time you got? I got lotsa Sigmas.

    The Vancouver quake on Monday, however, took people by surprise. It was huge, over 9 R, one of the largest quakes ever recorded. Plus, it was a diagonal slip-shear transfer fault. Fortunately, these are extremely rare, and nearly always found in the deep ocean. A series of tsunamis emanating from the quake bounced around the Puget Sound, creating dozens of transitory superharmonic tsunamis over 100 feet high that pretty much created a brand new coastline, mostly devoid of structure or vegetation underneath all the wreckage. But that's getting ahead.

    Nobody paid much attention either to a page 6 story from a supermarket tabloid about a school in India that mysteriously disappeared. The magazine had actually come out in June and was really only a paragraph without many details beyond name of the local region. But somebody did pay attention, and using Google Maps found that in every recent satellite photo of the named region, there was a nearly circular region that was blurred out. In archived photos, however, there was a small town (~75,000 folks) at the location. Somebody pointed this out on Slashdot, and several experts quickly came on to say that they didn't think the photos had been edited. The pictures showed what was actually there. Well, that did it, suddenly a thousand geeks, shut-ins, hackers and conspiracy theorists had a race/joint project/contest, and the story was quickly put together.

    A former pharmaceutical chemist from Bangalore had retired inland, and was running an informal school for recent college gr

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  32. Super hyped? Nope. It's the real deal. by hey! · · Score: 2

    Several things about this storm make it "huge", but the most important is that it is, literally, *huge*. The wind speed may not be high compared to hurricanes that routinely cut across Florida, but the sheer geographic scope of the thing is astonishing -- nearly a *thousand* miles across. You could line up two Floridas on a line from the Keys to the Panhandle and *two* would fit in the diameter of this storm. What this means is that many places that might have dodged the bullet of past hurricanes moving up the East Coast are facing something more like a cluster bomb. An individual bomblet might not be as lethal as a well placed bullet, but the whole package is far more deadly.

    The second things about the storm is that it is moving slowly. This means places will endure the winds and rain longer, and many coastal areas will be facing *two* near-record storm surges. Astonishing quantities of precipitation are going to fall over the storm's thousand mile swath. There are are places inland that are projected to get four feet of snow.

    The third thing about this storm is that it isn't petering out. It is interacting with other weather systems and actually becoming slightly more energetic where a normal storm would be dying. This means it's going to retain high tropical force winds much farther north than normally felt. There will be a lot of vulnerable structures that have not been tested by such strong winds recently, if ever. Same for trees. There are going to be power outages on tremendous scales and it'll be the death of a thousand cuts by falling tree limbs. The storm is just getting into swing here in Massachusetts, and already we've got over fifty thousand homes without electricity.

    So this is the real deal -- a bona-fide super-storm like the Blizzard of '78 or the Halloween Northeaster/Perfect Storm of '91. There have been larger storms, and there have been storms with far more spot destructive power, but few that spread destructive power over such a large area for so long.

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