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CyanogenMod Domain Hijacked

An anonymous reader writes "The team behind CyanogenMod, one of the most popular community-driven, Android-based operating systems for phones and tablets, has announced that they're moving to Cyanogenmod.org after their .com domain was held ransom by a community member. He had been in control of the .com domain name for some time, but the team found out he was impersonating Cyanogen to make deals with community sites. When they removed his access to other parts of the CM infrastructure, he demanded $10,000 to relinquish control of the domain and threatened to change the DNS entries. When they refused to pay, he went through with it. The team is now disputing control of the domain with ICANN. They said, 'We will continue to be open about the what, when, how, but unfortunately, we may never know the "why" – though greed comes to mind. The team itself has not made a profit off of CM and that is not our goal. But to have one of our own betray the community like this is beyond our comprehension.'"

143 comments

  1. Nice guy! by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like a real asshole. Enjoy the domain why you can - it'll be taken from you, or it'll be rendered worthless when the responsible adults get their own domain. Either way it's worthless.

    1. Re:Nice guy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I was think more along the lines of fuckbag, but asshole works, too.

    2. Re:Nice guy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds racist.

    3. Re:Nice guy! by Kenja · · Score: 2

      Sure, he's a jerk. But he cant really hold something he owns hostage. This is often the issue with community organizations. Without proper structure you end up with some random member owning chunks of the system.

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    4. Re:Nice guy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a real asshole. Enjoy the domain why you can - it'll be taken from you, or it'll be rendered worthless when the responsible adults get their own domain. Either way it's worthless.

      Or it will be rendered useless when the irresponsible adults decide to DDOS it.

    5. Re:Nice guy! by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Funny

      this is why I use apple - you never know who hijacked a domain and is now serving malicous software packages.

      Judging from stories here on /. and elsewhere, indeed apple.com is serving malicious software packages through its app store.

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    6. Re:Nice guy! by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, he's a jerk. But he cant really hold something he owns hostage.

      There's no utility in "owning" a listing in a public directory for an organization that you're not a part of beyond misrepresenting yourself and deceiving the public. If the existing rules don't recognize that, that doesn't that we need to distort reality and pretend that what he's doing is perfectly right and good, it means that means the rules need to be fixed.

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    7. Re:Nice guy! by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Informative

      He's just trying to reenforce the stereotype that all apple users are uninformed, arrogant douche bags that will take any opportunity to pop the brand name "Apple" into a conversation.

    8. Re:Nice guy! by hey! · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a real asshole.

      Especially because the entire worth of the domain is in its association with the project. It's not like "pets.com" or "sex.com" or something where people will look for the domain's web site because of the domain's name. The domain name "cyanogenmod.com" has no legitimate value at all except as a link to the project. There is no way to get an revenue out of controlling this domain name other than blackmailing the project or deceiving users.

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    9. Re:Nice guy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you must be new here...

    10. Re:Nice guy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except Android and Cyanogenmod are open source and available for all too see. With iOS, you're taking it purely on faith.

    11. Re:Nice guy! by screwdriver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Cyanogenmod is not an official Android release. You can't get it from the google store, it has to be installed on a device that you've rooted. If you jailbreak your iPod, expect similar results if you download unofficial unsigned apps.

    12. Re:Nice guy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sure, he's a jerk. But he cant really hold something he owns hostage.

      There's no utility in "owning" a listing in a public directory for an organization that you're not a part of beyond misrepresenting yourself and deceiving the public. If the existing rules don't recognize that, that doesn't that we need to distort reality and pretend that what he's doing is perfectly right and good, it means that means the rules need to be fixed.

      The rules don't need any fixing. These guys didn't setup their business properly, and this is one of the results. Yes, this guy is being an asshole, but the domain is owned by him and not the group itself, so the "rules" aren't the problem here. It would have been a simple matter to have each member sign a notarized agreement and prevent this entire scenario.

      I've seen things like this a lot, it's nothing unique to the technology sector. You could have two guys running a horse and buggy shop, and the guy who actually owns the stable can kick the other guy out any time he wants. Why? Because instead of properly setting up the business and assigning ownership of property to the business, they chose to act as lone individuals and rely on the good graces of the others.

    13. Re:Nice guy! by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 1

      Why do I get the feeling I've been online longer that you've been alive?

    14. Re:Nice guy! by AaronLS · · Score: 1

      I love how you call people arrogant d bags and get a score 5, and I do the same and get a score 0. Proof that slashdot's mod system is a failure.

  2. Scumbag by bigwheel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A real community member would be proud to shell out the 10 bucks for the domain name nenewal and donate it back to the project.

  3. power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we may never know the "why"

    Usually it is some sort of 'need' to be 'in charge'. They want some sort of power over you. Just sue him for trying to extort you. That will take the wind out of his sails...

    1. Re:power by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 1

      First you get the domain, then you get the money, then you get the weemon.

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  4. Surprised it was available by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would have expected the .org to have been grabbed by a squatter with an ad farm a long time ago. The douche who hijacked .com must not have thought of that angle. Are there names? He deserves to have his name associated with this dick move in searches.

    1. Re:Surprised it was available by Venotar · · Score: 2

      They did mention "filing charges". IANAL, and I doubt Steve is either. If I were in his shoes, I'd be hesitant to publish clearly identifying details until I'd consulted an attorney.

    2. Re:Surprised it was available by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3

      Yup. I'm 90% positive about who it is, but I'm not going to ask or discuss it with the rest of the team to ensure noninterference with legal proceedings.

      I am, however, planning on talking with some lawyer friends on advice for setting up a 501(c)(3) organization.

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    3. Re:Surprised it was available by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative
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    4. Re:Surprised it was available by Venotar · · Score: 1

      Although, if you REALLY want to know who's the suspect, it's easy enough to find out just by reading some of the social media posts further down in this story's comments.

    5. Re:Surprised it was available by Venotar · · Score: 1

      Don't give up on that 501(c)3, though - avoid those single points of failure, where you can.

    6. Re:Surprised it was available by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:Surprised it was available by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      Conspiciously missing any discussion of:

      His initial attempt to extort $10k from CM. He didn't agree to transfer the domain for free until AFTER he had been outed.
      His posing as Steve when contacting N2ACards.
      His alteration of the CM website to point to N2ACards without any discussion with anyone else in the organization.
      His routing of all money coming from N2ACards to his personal account.

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    8. Re:Surprised it was available by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Oh, duly noted, just posted it without commentary to be as neutral sounding as possible.

      He seems completely oblivious to the effects of his behaviour at some level, and I posted as much on my own G+ feed.

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  5. Defamation of trademarks can be a criminal matter by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whoever this community member is, he needs to be very very careful about what he's doing. Many countries hold that malicious hijacking of trademarks or implied trademarks to be a criminal rather than merely civil matter. Ie if you go to a company or organization and maliciously register their trademark to fuck them over, you can expect a policeman at your door with a warrant.

    This happens quite regularly, and it rarely turns out as happily as the malicious party expected.

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  6. Nerds with the delusion of having power... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sometimes a pathetic thing. :-\

  7. Please out the guy by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Benedict Judas Quisling is unable to take your call at this moment, but if you leave your site name he'll remove it from DNS as soon as possible.

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    1. Re:Please out the guy by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I'd be an asshole too, with a name like that...

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    2. Re:Please out the guy by p0p0 · · Score: 1

      Judas? Seriously? Why did they even trust him in the first place?

    3. Re:Please out the guy by whoever57 · · Score: 0

      Whoooshhhhh!

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  8. It'll be worth rather a lot, actually by Rix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even just putting up a standard ad landing page would generate income, there.

    We'll see if ICANN just brings down the hammer for powerful corporations here.

  9. The name is trademarked by infogulch · · Score: 1
  10. Already Fixed? by MozeeToby · · Score: 2

    I tried going to cyanogenmod.com and got redirected to cyanogenmod.org. Maybe someone realized that what he was doing wasn't just unethical, but also most likely illegal.

    1. Re:Already Fixed? by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 1

      That's not "fixed".

    2. Re:Already Fixed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope I got a blank page on cyanogenmod.com

    3. Re:Already Fixed? by wile_e8 · · Score: 3, Informative
      From TFA:

      “Hi, so you think by removing all my access across the infrastructure was going to be a great idea? We had a chat yesterday, you’ve decided to end this bitter. How about I just change the DNS entries right now. CM will practically go down.”

      Refusing to be extorted for funds, and then being threatened is “ending it bitter”? Today, it happened: all of our records were deleted, and cyanogenmod.com is slowly expiring out of the Internet and being replaced by blank pages and non-existing sites.

      (emphasis mine)

      Not fixed, just hasn't been broken yet for a steadily decreasing number of people.

    4. Re:Already Fixed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you didn't. What possible utility is there in lying about being redirected?

    5. Re:Already Fixed? by megrims · · Score: 4, Informative
    6. Re:Already Fixed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +5 for parent comment

  11. Re:Well, by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    "lol didn't read"

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  12. Re:Defamation of trademarks can be a criminal matt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This guy is in England... the country where you get arrested for posting a photo of a burning paper flower on facebook.

  13. Judas! by zarlino · · Score: 1

    What's in a name...

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  14. I ran the WHOIS... by gubon13 · · Score: 1

    Registrant:
    Worthless Internet Asshat
    Kemp House
    City Road
    London, London EC1V 2NX
    GB

  15. They saw it coming by sphix42 · · Score: 2

    Domain Name:CYANOGENMOD.ORG
    Created On:21-Oct-2010 18:09:32 UTC

    It's the responsibility of any person responsible for a project to ensure a backup domain(s) is available in the case the domain owner become estranged from the project.

    A good example of proper planning.

    1. Re:They saw it coming by Rijnzael · · Score: 1

      More likely they registered that domain for brand protection and repurposed it to keep their services up while they regain control of the .com. It's easier to register a domain than go through the UDRP with ICANN and/or the applicable registry to take it down when someone starts using it maliciously.

  16. This would seem to be the guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the first whois data from that domain 3 years ago:

    Administrative Contact:
    Deveci, Ahmet webmaster@metserve.com
    Third Floor
    152-156 Lower Clapton Road
    Clapton, London E5 0QJ
    GB
    +442081232629

    1. Re:This would seem to be the guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's all call him and tell him what we think :o

    2. Re:This would seem to be the guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      His Twitter, with relevant comments:

      https://twitter.com/MrADeveci

    3. Re:This would seem to be the guy by SgtAaron · · Score: 1

      His ears were burning, he has updated his whois and is now anonymous. Not that it is going to help him now.


      Administrative Contact:
              Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0121602432, cyanogenmod.com@contactprivacy.com
              96 Mowat Ave
              Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
              CA
              +1.4165385457
      [SNIP]
      Record last updated on 14-Nov-2012.

    4. Re:This would seem to be the guy by lamber45 · · Score: 1

      Strange thing is that both domains are anonymized now, makes it hard to tell who's who in this argument:

      • Domain ID:D160468854-LROR
        Domain Name:CYANOGENMOD.ORG
        Created On:21-Oct-2010 18:09:32 UTC
        Last Updated On:01-Nov-2012 04:14:02 UTC
        Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
        Registrant Name:WhoisGuard Protected
        Registrant Organization:WhoisGuard
        Registrant Street1:11400 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 200
        Registrant City:Los Angeles
        Registrant State/Province:CA
        Registrant Postal Code:90064
        Registrant Country:US
        Registrant Phone:+1.6613102107
        Registrant FAX:+1.6613102107
        Registrant Email:f400f5cbeeb24eebbd31e75924334a65.protect@whoisguard.com

        versus

      • Domain name: CYANOGENMOD.COM
        Administrative Contact:
        Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0121602432, cyanogenmod.com@contactprivacy.com
        96 Mowat Ave
        Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
        CA
        +1.4165385457
    5. Re:This would seem to be the guy by Rijnzael · · Score: 1

      I really dislike the service (which I won't mention) that automatically hits all the various registries to gather this historical WHOIS information, but I won't deny it has a purpose here.

    6. Re:This would seem to be the guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/ Ever heard of Steistrand? I never bothered about GP's source. Now that you specifically did not want to mention the name, I had to find it. For the benefit of the rest, I have shared it here.

    7. Re:This would seem to be the guy by blind+biker · · Score: 4, Funny

      Deveci, Ahmet webmaster@metserve.com
      Third Floor
      152-156 Lower Clapton Road
      Clapton, London E5 0QJ
      GB
      +442081232629

      Please do not call that phonenumber now, because it's very late in the evening in the UK, and if you call that number, you could cause serious annoyance to Ahmet.

      Especially don't call it repeatedly, and above all, do not make prank calls.

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    8. Re:This would seem to be the guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And stuff like this makes /. no different than Anonymous and their ilk. His name would have been enough, posting his address and phone number just means he will get all sorts of harassment and threats.

      Better yet, wait until all sides in the dispute have had a chance to comment on it before going into a frothing lynch mob mode.

  17. Name and shame again and again. by couchslug · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whenever the subject is brought up, it would be appropriate to NAME the perp and note his background info.

    No libel, no slander, just sufficient identification that anyone considering teaming with this fellow can make a fully informed decision.

    It's not revenge, just self-defense.

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    1. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ahmet's page is here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116028512018932696380

      He works for MetServe Enterprises http://www.metserve.com/ whose site is currently down - strangely :)
      Which makes this post ironic: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117025707475158348263/posts/W68Z3GyCmce

    3. Re:Name and shame again and again. by madsci1016 · · Score: 2

      His Twitter: https://twitter.com/MrADeveci He's claiming misunderstanding. Anyone buy it? Anyone?

    4. Re:Name and shame again and again. by vinehair · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He's just blocking people on Twitter now (myself included.) I usually find 'you don't understand what's going on' with no attempt to educate to be an excuse used by the guilty party. The fact that he later said on said twitter feed that 'he owns the domain name' seems to solidly imply that he is guilty of this dick move, and he thought he's morally in the right to do what he did because of it.

    5. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Ahmet's page is here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116028512018932696380

      He works for MetServe Enterprises http://www.metserve.com/ whose site is currently down - strangely :)
      Which makes this post ironic: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117025707475158348263/posts/W68Z3GyCmce

      Wow, a capcha to enter Metserve.com...

      From Metserve.com:

      Why am I seeing this page?

      Your IP address based on the country, region or network has been flagged by the website owner.
      What should I do?

      Completing the challenge above proves you are a human and gives you temporary access. You can ask the website owner to permanently whitelist you.

      Guess he's preparing for a shitstorm... lol

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    6. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Call the name and let the mob, I mean, community sort it out?

      Gives "community service" a whole new meaning.

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    7. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd love to hear both sides, but if one side just says "The other side is wrong" without telling me what happened in their view, I kinda doubt said side.

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    8. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Think he'll have a going-out-of-business sale soon?

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    9. Re:Name and shame again and again. by darkmeridian · · Score: 5, Informative

      He claims that he has transferred it back to CM:

      "Ahmet Deveci8:22 PM - Public
      For the record, regarding: cyanogenmod.com

      Following the saga from : http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org it would appear that I have been labelled a 'thief' an 'extortionist' a 'liar' and a bunch of other somewhat degrading comments.

      The domain name has since been transferred to the CM Team, but I wanted to make a few things clear.

      I purchased the CyanogenMod.com domain name 3 years ago and have been responsible for the renewal fees ever since. This means I (my company) legally owned the domain name. It was fully registered in the United Kingdom. I hear people saying about âtrademarkâ(TM). Yes, CyanogenMod is now a registered trademark in the US. But the domain was registered in the UK well before that trademark. I donâ(TM)t want to get into any legal battles here, but US trademarkâ(TM)s are not valid in the UK unless they are registered here with the IPO.

      The term 'hi-jacked' is just wrong, the domain name was always in my control. I didn't hijack anything. I initiated a transfer out process with my registrar today who restored the DNS entries to their own. This in turn deleted all MX entries and other records. The term 'hi-jacked' has just derived from tech blogs creating stories for link bait.

      The term 'extortion' is also wrong. If I was out for the money, why an earth would I have transferred the domain to the CM Team for free?"

      https://plus.google.com/116028512018932696380/posts

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    10. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I were this guy and had seen these last few posts, I'd go racing to return the domain ASAP. I think he's about to lose a **hell of a lot more** than this domain could ever be worth. Bad reputation for a *long* time, perhaps the current job, and the list is growing.

    11. Re:Name and shame again and again. by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      He is forgetting that, it is a .COM domain, which is controlled by a US company. I am sure cynogenmod folks can get a US court to order the domain registrar to hand over the domain to cynogenmod.
       
      The post was hardly an apology. If he has any honor, he would have apologized for the saga. I bet he is hoping that the cynogenmod team would let this go, and not take any legal action after this.

    12. Re:Name and shame again and again. by the_B0fh · · Score: 0

      Did you not read the summary or did you recently get a lobotomy? The summary clearly lays out the dick moves he pulled. Nothing in his lame excuse drivel clears any of that shit up other than saying other people are wrong.

    13. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Kwyj1b0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did you not read the summary or did you recently get a lobotomy? The summary clearly lays out the dick moves he pulled. Nothing in his lame excuse drivel clears any of that shit up other than saying other people are wrong.

      And who submitted the entry? An AC. And with the high editorial standards at slashdot, I'm sure they did a thorough investigation and fact-checking before posting.

      As to the fact that his excuses were lame - that is exactly what the previous poster said. So congratulations on missing the whole point (while implying he/she is an idiot).

    14. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have no legal leg to stand on in regards to legal action. As he said, he registered the domain, he paid for it, etc... Legally, he had every right to do with the domain as he pleased.

    15. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      None of this explains away the allegation that he was impersonating a CyanogenMod developer to fraudulently establish commercial contracts.

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    16. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus he's got a wop surname. Why the fuck did anyone trust him in the first place?

    17. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

      He's just blocking people on Twitter now (myself included.) I usually find 'you don't understand what's going on' with no attempt to educate to be an excuse used by the guilty party. The fact that he later said on said twitter feed that 'he owns the domain name' seems to solidly imply that he is guilty of this dick move, and he thought he's morally in the right to do what he did because of it.

      Actually when I read his post I thought he was just claiming to be legally right, not morally.

      His basic premise seemed to be that since what he was doing was legal, morals did not come into (believe me I certainly don't agree with this). The domain name was his, so he could do what he liked with it. The fact that he registered it on behalf of a community didn't come into it as there was no legally enforceable contract between them.

      My personal opinion is that he is clearly a devout capitalist who felt he should be able to monetise his community work freely. The people in the community who objected to this were probably just naive little kids and so there opinion can be freely ignored. I think if that is really what he thought though then he should go and look up what "community work" actually means and where it differs from "investment".

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    18. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

      I'd love to hear both sides, but if one side just says "The other side is wrong" without telling me what happened in their view, I kinda doubt said side.

      Here's his side:

      https://plus.google.com/u/0/116028512018932696380/posts

      It didn't take too long to find once someone named him further up this thread.

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    19. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How reliable is your version of the story vs his? He might be blocking people for completely sane and rational reasons, like not being harassed.

      Maybe you don't understand what is going on. Or maybe he's a witch.

    20. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So it was the usual tempest in a teapot to generate clicks?

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    21. Re:Name and shame again and again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, except of course for the whole impersonating Cyanogen and making deals with sites without the authorization of Cyanogen. I guess it could still be argued as a grey zone, but if you only own a domain name, I don't think that gives you ownership or business-decision-making abilities regarding the data that's on there unless you have actual authority to do that. I'm guessing that this person does not. And since the domain name and actual data are entirely separate (hammered in by the fact that he switched the DNS on them), I'm guessing he could be tagged pretty damn easily for fraud, and probably extortion.

    22. Re:Name and shame again and again. by alexo · · Score: 1

      The term 'hi-jacked' is just wrong

      I agree. The correct term is not hyphenated.

  18. So that's what happened to Michael Sims. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always wondered where he went after being fired from Slashdot.

  19. Wait. Oh my god. by p0p0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I only just now realized that the rom is called cyanogenmod and not cryogenmod. Christ, I've been calling it cryogenmod for over a year!

    1. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's OK, I was calling those little cups of coffee "Expresso" for something like 3 years, until I realised what an idiot I was...

    2. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by leppi · · Score: 1

      I'm not confident in my pronunciation. I usually slur it all together like when I pronounce worcestershire.

    3. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by alostpacket · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just wait 'till you find out what Cyanogen actually is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen :)

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    4. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh really? If you had not pointed it out now, I would have still been calling it expresso.

    5. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Classic mistake. Now, for something else for you to possibly miss-read:

      I got a pet wussy.

      (thanks George Takei)

    6. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should have gone with carbon subnitrite.

    7. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb fuck Americans

    8. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      Irregardless, I'm sure it didn't change how the coffee tasted.

    9. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh. I'm still waiting for magentaogenmod or yellowogenmod.

    10. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Except perhaps when ordering it from a sufficiently snotty employee who spat in it after you mispronounced it :)

      --
      - Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
    11. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Irregardless

      I believe the term you're searching for is unreguardful.

    12. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Esso LT ----- GT Exxon

      Same, so do not fret on the coffee shots.

    13. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I slur Worcestershire.

      That is correct. (chrisfarley.jpg)

    14. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by samoanbiscuit · · Score: 1

      Irregardless

      O I C what U did THARR!

    15. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by iapetus · · Score: 1

      You'd be better off waiting for selenorhodanemod, azidodithiocarbonatemod or dicobalt-octacarbonylmod, maybe.

      --
      ++ Say to Elrond "Hello.".
      Elrond says "No.". Elrond gives you some lunch.
    16. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android devices couldn't handle the extra 2 carbons.

    17. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I'd suggest carbonyldiamidemod, but people would think I was taking the piss.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    18. Re:Wait. Oh my god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But cyanogen is BLUE!

  20. Re:Defamation of trademarks can be a criminal matt by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Any idea about the laws in UK? Seems to be owned my MetServe Enterprises Limited, a UK registered company.

    The address for that company looks like the office of their lawyer though. Looks like you need to pay money to get documents with the director and shareholder names. Anyone willing to give a pound to the UK Companies office?

  21. Registrant info by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 3, Informative

    And this is why you make sure of who's listed as the registrant. Not just the administrative contact, the registrant is the one who owns the domain. You can set the billing, technical and administrative contacts to whoever needs to run things day-to-day, but make sure the registrant contact information's set for the organization, not one single person within it. That way when someone goes rogue you don't need to involve ICANN, you can just contact the registrar as the registrant and get control back. It's still hassle, but much less hassle than a dispute proceeding.

    1. Re:Registrant info by tftp · · Score: 1

      make sure the registrant contact information's set for the organization, not one single person within it.

      That also means when three buddies decide on a lark to start a project and make some free software they first need to spend a few thousand dollars on setting up a company. I know people who don't mind donating some of their free time for public good, but spending some real money on that is probably beyond all of them.

    2. Re:Registrant info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Setting up an LLC is very very cheap and quite easy. It cost me about $50 total.

    3. Re:Registrant info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In CA it is $850 per year (additionally the city often wants $150 per year).
       
      You can try and setup a Nevada LLC. But unless you are a resident and it is the only state where business is conducted in the US, it is useless.

    4. Re:Registrant info by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      It usually is pretty cheap if you do the paperwork yourself. You just need to have a charter/bylaws/etc - which you can usually copy/paste.

      Always best to ensure IP is legally owned by a company of some sort - then when somebody wants to run off with things you have legal recourse.

    5. Re:Registrant info by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      You can try and setup a Nevada LLC. But unless you are a resident and it is the only state where business is conducted in the US, it is useless.

      Oregon and one other state, I forget which, will give you an LLC over the internet. This would be a much cooler comment if I could remember.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:Registrant info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The same can be done for a Nevada LLC (NV has the most preferred LLC laws, in the country. Offers maximum protection, and has little to no obligations (Even book keeping is very simple)). But all states you do business in (or have employees in), require you to register the LLC (as subsidiary) in their state. Which is why I said it is practically useless. If I, as a CA resident, want to register an LLC, since I work for the LLC in California, and do business on behalf of the LLC, I would have to also register the LLC in CA (despite having registered it in NV, or in OR).

    7. Re:Registrant info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, Washington? https://corps.secstate.wa.gov/llc/pages/startpage.aspx

      Every state, including Oregon, requires you to have an agent located physically in the state who can receive legal notices and forward them to the corporation. You can pay companies to do this for you.

    8. Re:Registrant info by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Pardon me, but I don't think I can take legal advice from an anonymous coward.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    9. Re:Registrant info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You dont have to. You can look it up. Or talk to a lawyer if you prefer.

  22. Already Owning != Hijacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why has he been reported as hijacking the domain when he's owned it since its inception?

    1. Re:Already Owning != Hijacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He owned it on behalf on cynogenmod. It is trademarked, he couldnt own it without the blessings of cynogenmod. He probably never paid the domain fees himself. It was probably paid for by the funds from cynogenmod. It certainly is highjacking.

    2. Re:Already Owning != Hijacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is trademarked, he couldnt own it without the blessings of cynogenmod.

      Not trademarked in the UK.

      He probably never paid the domain fees himself.

      Yes he did, every year,

      It was probably paid for by the funds from cynogenmod.

      Nope.

      It certainly is highjacking.

      Well your record so far is three wrong out of four. Want to guess this one?

    3. Re:Already Owning != Hijacking by socceroos · · Score: 1

      He, in good faith, as a web-admin for the CyanogenMod project, 'donated' the domain name and maintained it for them. What you're missing is the extortion and fraud he subversively and covertly performed when acting as a web-admin for the CyanogenMod project. When he was confronted by this his response was to attempt to blackmail the CyanogenMod team into paying $10k to keep their domain - since, even though he donated it, he still held the keys. Hijacking is misleading and too soft a word. He blackmailed, backstabbed, defrauded and embezzeled. The guy is the definition of deplorable conduct.

  23. This all looks to now be resolved by kaptink · · Score: 5, Informative

    This all looks to now be resolved - http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/domain-situation-has-been-resolved

    From the cyanogenmod blog -

    (ciwrl wrote this, I’m just posting on his behalf so this is resolved)

    So earlier today we put up a post on what prompted us to transition to our new CyanogenMod.org domain. We refrained from identifying the ex-member out of respect for his privacy and career outside of CM. Suffice it to say you guys aren’t slouches, and figured it out on your own.

    With that said, the ex-member in question contacted us and has agreed to hand over control of the CyanogenMod.com domain. This was done as amicably as these things can be, and CM did not pay the fee he requested.

    We will still be using CyanogenMod.org as our primary domain, and the .com address will simply redirect to this new domain. Ironically enough, ‘.org’ is better than ‘.com’ as we are not a commercial entity, and is far more in line with how CyanogenMod is structured.

    We received a common question, that we’d like to take a moment to answer. Some of you contacted us mentioning that you had previously donated to a different address. When the forum began, up until about 3 months ago, the forum utilized this other address as the mechanism for forum donations and establishment of the ‘Donator’ badge. Donations made to this address prior to three months ago were used for the CyanogenMod forum IPB licence and forum related costs and were not misappropriated.

    On a side note, we have also gone through internal restructuring to make sure that this sort of thing doesn’t happen again. Nobody has control over everything, and there is no longer such a large single-point of failure. Our lessons have been learned.

    We ask that you please not perform any vigilante actions, we do not condone any such thing; just let this fade.

    We want to move on, get you the builds you expect from us, and not mess around with distractions.

    --
    Those who can, do. Those who cannot, sue.
    1. Re:This all looks to now be resolved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Dudes still a shit bag for trying to get the money from a non profit org in the first place.

    2. Re:This all looks to now be resolved by am+2k · · Score: 1

      Yes, but now he's a shit bag without any power to cause harm, and thus can be ignored.

    3. Re:This all looks to now be resolved by socceroos · · Score: 1

      ....after the internet has had its way with him.

      I'm not condoning this conduct, but lets be realistic here. ;)

  24. Re:Beyond Comprehension? by flyerbri · · Score: 0

    Go watch SKYFALL that is.. Dont know why that movie title got deleted....

  25. It's over, domain was given to the CM team by seandiggity · · Score: 1

    Ahmet Deveci 8:22 PM

    For the record, regarding: cyanogenmod.com

    Following the saga from : http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org it would appear that I have been labelled a 'thief' an 'extortionist' a 'liar' and a bunch of other somewhat degrading comments.

    The domain name has since been transferred to the CM Team, but I wanted to make a few things clear.

    I purchased the CyanogenMod.com domain name 3 years ago and have been responsible for the renewal fees ever since. This means I (my company) legally owned the domain name. It was fully registered in the United Kingdom. I hear people saying about ‘trademark’. Yes, CyanogenMod is now a registered trademark in the US. But the domain was registered in the UK well before that trademark. I don’t want to get into any legal battles here, but US trademark’s are not valid in the UK unless they are registered here with the IPO.

    The term 'hi-jacked' is just wrong, the domain name was always in my control. I didn't hijack anything. I initiated a transfer out process with my registrar today who restored the DNS entries to their own. This in turn deleted all MX entries and other records. The term 'hi-jacked' has just derived from tech blogs creating stories for link bait.

    The term 'extortion' is also wrong. If I was out for the money, why an earth would I have transferred the domain to the CM Team for free?

    I really don't want to make a meal out of this, nor do I want to get into the rigmarole of having to keep fighting off the haters on here or Twitter or my personal email. I would just simply ask that some people act a little more mature about this whole situation and let's all move along.

    The domain name has now been rightfully transferred to the great guys behind CyanogenMod and I will continue to use the mod on my devices. I will just be stepping down from my previous role as 'webmaster'.

    If I have offended anyone during all of this commotion then I apologise. In the meantime, let’s all move along and play nicely. This incident was blown way out of proportion. There are far more important things in life than to worry about internet disputes.

    Thanks again,

    Ahmet

    --
    Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.-rms
    1. Re:It's over, domain was given to the CM team by seandiggity · · Score: 2

      Yup, the CM team acknowledged the transfer to them too: http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/domain-situation-has-been-resolved

      ...not sure what the guy hoped to accomplish, but I assume he's regretting it now. Nothing gained but enmity.

      --
      Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.-rms
    2. Re:It's over, domain was given to the CM team by madsci1016 · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, his 'apology' is anything but and it offers no explanation to his actions or his emails including this one: “Hi, so you think by removing all my access across the infrastructure was going to be a great idea? We had a chat yesterday, you’ve decided to end this bitter. How about I just change the DNS entries right now. CM will practically go down.” What context could that have been taken out of that doesn't implicate this guy as a horrible, immature person? Either CM is making that quote up or he got the negative attention he deserves and is trying to save face.

    3. Re:It's over, domain was given to the CM team by seandiggity · · Score: 1

      Either CM is making that quote up or he got the negative attention he deserves and is trying to save face.

      I'd guess it's the latter.

      --
      Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.-rms
    4. Re:It's over, domain was given to the CM team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CMteam is also guilty of slander. If I where the guy, I wouldn't transfer the domain back, and actually wait for a court session, and then win because they attempted slander.

    5. Re:It's over, domain was given to the CM team by socceroos · · Score: 1

      Oh, they named the guy? Nope.

  26. But he formally owned it all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If what he says in his twitter is true, he owned it from the time of domain registration, and he paid the registration fee too. So for all practical and legal purposes this is his personal domain.

    Why didn't cyanogen organization formally took over the domain? They should have been listed as the domain owner with somebody as an administrative contact.

    Sounds like some man, who got married thinking marriage is all about love and commitment, finds out in divorce court that marriage is really all about money, and half of what he owned isn't his any more and it will keep costing more for the years to come.

  27. So by DFurno2003 · · Score: 0

    Since the domain was registered in the UK, and CyanogenMod is from the U.S., Doesnt that mean this guy can keep the domain unless Cyanogenmod is registered with the IPO?

  28. Human nature by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    ...But to have one of our own betray the community like this is beyond our comprehension."

    I find this quote rather amusing.
    Didn't this project start in part because of the carriers denying smartphone owners updated versions of the Android OS to help drive sales of new handsets instead?

    And now one of their people is trying to extort $10,000 out of them.

    Is greed beyond the comprehension of CM?

    1. Re:Human nature by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      ...But to have one of our own betray the community like this is beyond our comprehension."

      I find this quote rather amusing.
      Didn't this project start in part because of the carriers denying smartphone owners updated versions of the Android OS to help drive sales of new handsets instead?

      So? Are you implying CM was started because of greed (greed of the carriers)?

      And now one of their people is trying to extort $10,000 out of them.

      Is greed beyond the comprehension of CM?

      It is more than greed, it is back-stabbing. It is very difficult to comprehend back-stabbing without having experienced it. I would forgive them for not expecting it.

  29. Re:Defamation of trademarks can be a criminal matt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you were capable of comprehending more than "mob-think" you would know that the guy was arrested for what he wrote, not the picture.

  30. Hey Anonymous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys on this?

  31. Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dudes a shit bag, but everyone who keeps crying about the trademark, blah blah blah, is a jerk too. I remember years ago when a lot of us were upset because organizations were getting sued for using protest domain names. Some of us techies saw the domain name challenges as big corporations and businesses trying to set their stake in our Internet. Our Internet in the past was a giant hackerspace where we could learn, share and have fun using our knowledge, skills and curiosity of the way things work. What happened here is messed up. If the story is true, dude was a real dick for it, but what is all this lawsuit and trademark stuff? Those that are crying about that are in the wrong as much as he is. The Internet shouldn't just be about money, business, lawsuits and IP and that's what we are letting it become. The cyanogen team seem to be the only ones handling things right. They found the problem, came up with a way around it, and built up on their solutions. At the end of the day, it isn't about lawsuits and trademarks, but pushing the limits.