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Indian School Textbook Says Meat-Eaters Lie and Commit Sex Crimes
another random user writes with bad news from the BBC for anybody who enjoys a hamburger now and again:
"Meat-eaters 'easily cheat, lie, forget promises and commit sex crimes,' according to a controversial school textbook available in India. New Healthway, a book on hygiene and health aimed at 11 and 12 year-olds, is printed by one of India's leading publishers. 'This is poisonous for children,' Janaki Rajan of the Faculty of Education at Jamia Millia University in Delhi told the BBC. 'The government has the power to take action, but they are washing their hands of it,' she said. 'The strongest argument that meat is not essential food is the fact that the Creator of this Universe did not include meat in the original diet for Adam and Eve. He gave them fruits, nuts and vegetables,' reads a chapter entitled Do We Need Flesh Food? The chapter details the 'benefits' of a vegetarian diet and goes on to list 'some of the characteristics' found among non-vegetarians. 'They easily cheat, tell lies, forget promises, they are dishonest and tell bad words, steal, fight and turn to violence and commit sex crimes,' it says."
except for the God and Adam and Eve part.. they don't believe in that shit
Next time an American school demands their textbooks "teach the controversy" of intelligent design or some other bullshit, we should show them this Indian textbook as an example of how doctoring our textbooks is making us look to the rest of the world.
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In a country where meat is more or less luxury, is convenient to make the people believe that meat is bad.
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According to this Indian textbook I just read, you must have stolen that burrito and now you're lying about how good it tastes.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
and don't even get me started on Breatharians.....
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That was supposed to go in the section on politicians.
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I was about to go on a rant about how they wouldn't even be called meat eaters in India. But it's right there in the summary. Non-vegetarians.
Meat is usually called non-veg in India or at least the small parts of it that I have lived in.
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Hitler was a pretty notorious vegan. I wonder if the Indian books mention him much. GODWIN!!!
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Is that before or after he cheats on his wife with that burrito? We'd all be vegetarians if meat wasn't so tasty. I understand India's population is a tad high and a vegetarian diet would make it easier to feed everyone, but blatantly lying to children won't gain any confidence with the government. They need to level with people and explain the benefits of not eating meat if that's their goal.
Of course they're a tad high. Some of the best shit in the world comes from India. Oh. You mean ... never mind..
It all depends. When I was in grad school, my research group would do presentations over research papers once a week, with each of us picking a paper that sounded interesting and presenting it to the others on a round robin basis. Most of the time, we were pretty safe in selecting a pool of maybe 10 candidate papers by pulling ones with interesting titles and abstracts. From there, you'd read the intros and conclusions of each to get a good idea of what sort of material they'd cover, then you'd announce which one you were presenting, read through it completely, and put together your presentation.
But there was this one paper that burned me bad. It had a solid intro and solid conclusion with claims of having had great results, so, since I was a trusting sort, I announced my intention to present the paper. Only then did I see that the methodology they had claimed in their intro and conclusion was not the methodology that they had actually followed in their experiments, nor were their results nearly as impressive as they had led the reader to believe. Their claims in the intro and conclusion were on par with, "and so we have definitively found the cure for leukemia," while their middle consisted of something on par with, "we took a biopsy and determined that cancer does indeed exist." And it was supposedly written by two professors at an Indian university (a PhD and a Masters) and another PhD.
That said, a number of my friends in grad school were Indian students, many of whom put me to shame with their intelligence and talent. I also met my share of Indian students in grad school who made me look like a genius as they clearly struggled to keep up with even the simplest of material. But I could say the same for Chinese students, Korean students, and American students who were in my classes as well, some of whom were smarter than me and some of whom were definitely not.
Long story short, I would agree that India needs to do a better job of improving various standards and expectations as it develops further, but to dismiss them entirely is unfair and uncalled for. As with any major nation, there are plenty of people there, some of whom are wonderful, talented, and a pleasure to work with, while there are others of who really are a shame to their country.
No, according to the article, the "carne asada burrito" he is "eating" is actually a euphamism for a depraved sex act!
Who else would lie like that?
because they don't bleed. Seriously. I asked my local health food guru if I should take an Iron supplement, and she looked at me like I had lobsters coming out of my ears. As for Women, just about all bread is fortified, and if all else fails take a supplement.
Most vegetarians and vegans that see huge health gains though aren't seeing them because of meat, they're seeing them because going vegetarian forces them to clean up their diet. It's the same reason the Akin's diet works. You cut out a tonne of junk food. In Vegan's case it's usually fast food. That's literally why I went vegetarian -> It' keeps me away from Fast Food hamburgers, which I can eat and eat and eat.
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Oh man, where to begin with a post like this...
First of all, it has been my experience that, as ESL speakers, Indians are among the most fluent in the world. It seems to me that they take great care to learn and use English well, unlike the stumbling parody you provided. No doubt a consequence of British colonialism, but perhaps a happy one.
Second, it is my opinion that the English language is very much enriched by hearing it spoken in so many fascinating accents. Let's face it: every one of us has an accent that sounds "funny" to more than one other culture in the world. We can giggle now and then about how weird we sound to each other, but let's keep it at a good-natured level.
Third, learning a second language is difficult. Those who speak something other than English as a second language are all-too-well aware of the challenge. Just imagine how you would sound trying to order a meal in a foreign land. Probably much worse than the example you gave. And yet you just might find that the server is pleased at your effort.
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Oh man, where to begin with a post like this...
First of all, it has been my experience that, as ESL speakers, Indians are among the most fluent in the world. It seems to me that they take great care to learn and use English well, unlike the stumbling parody you provided
Sure, most Indians can speak English pretty well. But if you've never encountered the sort of post the GP was parodying, you must not have been on many programming forums. For instance, here's a fine example of the form:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rubyonrails-talk/PlZOm0qlYMI/discussion
The original author literally *pasted* an interview question and just said "help me in finding solution" in the subject. When a couple people call him on it, he breaks into a semi-coherent string of posts laden with Kannada invective.
Beyond that, if I had a nickel for every "pls give me the codes" post I'd seen, I'd be able to retire...
The government is lying to you. I do not even have to ask what country you are from, because that is irrelevant.
This is because humans lie. You lie to others about how their baby looks. Darn, you lie to yourself how YOUR baby looks.
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Although there is no lack of vegetarians in China, pork, chicken, and seafood are all basic traditional parts of their cuisine. If a textbook is going to denigrate a rival by saying
This could be as much or more about China, as opposed to the rest of the world.
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you mean 'all your Bouillabaisse are belong to us'.
I think that's what you meant.
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First of all, it has been my experience that, as ESL speakers, Indians are among the most fluent in the world. It seems to me that they take great care to learn and use English well, unlike the stumbling parody you provided. No doubt a consequence of British colonialism, but perhaps a happy one.
There's a huge selection bias that the people you're likely to communicate with in English are those who know it well. Only about 12% of Indians are considered English-speaking, I'm not sure if a person like the grandparent would be counted to the 12% or the 88% but there's extremely many of them. There's a lot of non-English colonies doing more, for example here in Norway some 89% are now English-speaking and it's a compulsory subject from the first school year (age 6), by the time you've finished high school you'll have had 1800-2000 hours in your primary language and 700 hours of English. Also we don't generally don't dub English-speaking TV series and movies except for small children and at least in higher education you're expected to read English textbooks. I think you'll find the average Indian is far from the most fluent in the world.
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Do you know that Hitler was a vegetarian?
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That could actually form the basis of a pretty good presentation, provided your lecturer doesn't mind you doing it as a meta-presentation:
"On the importance of reading research papers properly"
So what your saying is Norway with just under 5,000,000 people has just under 90% of its population proficient in English (so just under 4.5 million while India with its 1.2 billion people has over 10% proficiency or a population of English speakers over 24 times the total population of Norway.
Numbers can be manipulated to make a lot of meaningless points. For example a random Norwegian may be more likely to be proficient in English, but an English speaker is more likely to be Indian.
The grandparent post refers to Indians as "among" the most fluent - which depending upon your point of view could mean a lot since the link you provided states India has the second largest population of English speakers. While it may not attest to the "average" Indian, I think sheer numbers would qualify the Indian people as being representative among the most fluent.
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Oh man, where to begin with a post like this...
First of all, it has been my experience that, as ESL speakers, Indians are among the most fluent in the world. It seems to me that they take great care to learn and use English well, unlike the stumbling parody you provided. No doubt a consequence of British colonialism, but perhaps a happy one.
Second, it is my opinion that the English language is very much enriched by hearing it spoken in so many fascinating accents. Let's face it: every one of us has an accent that sounds "funny" to more than one other culture in the world. We can giggle now and then about how weird we sound to each other, but let's keep it at a good-natured level.
Third, learning a second language is difficult. Those who speak something other than English as a second language are all-too-well aware of the challenge. Just imagine how you would sound trying to order a meal in a foreign land. Probably much worse than the example you gave. And yet you just might find that the server is pleased at your effort.
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I moved from English Canada to a bilingual but mainly French Quebec Province in 1985 (at age 45). I could have continued in English, but chose to integrate myself into the majority community. The first few things I did were:
a) Block all English Newspapers, Radio, Television in the house.
b) Take two basic French courses.
c) Select easy to read French textbooks and story books and read them
d) Even reprogram the car radio to only tune to French stations (sports, news, music).
e) Buy a set of French grammar books (Bescherelle verb conjugation book and a pocket dictionary)
I kept this up for two years, when one morning, while driving the car and listening to the radio, the French announcer cracked a joke, and I started to laugh. Suddenly I exclaimed "I arrived, I am bilingual". The next day, English was again welcome in the house.
Surprisingly, my English vocabulary was significantly increased because of foreign words and French idioms. My English writing became more precise, my tolerance for all other languages increased substantially, as did my caring for other people.
I am currently fluent in English, French and am getting there with Spanish. Now I read and write all three, as do my kids. My grandchildren studied in French Immersion in public school (French only until grade 4), and are now (grade 5) studying in English with French continuing as a second language. Gym and sports and lunch hours are a mixture of both languages, and the grandkids know the differences. And compared to me at their age, they have richer vocabularies and very good analytical skills. They switch from English to French without stumbling.
We admire the number of doctorates and highly intelligent people from India and European countries. They are no more intelligent than Americans, but because of multilingualism, they are better at thinking out of the box. And where a very few Americans are the Archie Bunkers of the USA, India has it's own.
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