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Saudi Arabia Implements Electronic Tracking System For Women
dsinc writes "Denied the right to travel without consent from their male guardians and banned from driving, women in Saudi Arabia are now monitored by an electronic system that tracks any cross-border movements. Since last week, Saudi women's male guardians began receiving text messages on their phones informing them when women under their custody leave the country, even if they are travelling together. 'The authorities are using technology to monitor women,' said columnist Badriya al-Bishr, who criticised the 'state of slavery under which women are held' in the ultra-conservative kingdom. Women are not allowed to leave the kingdom without permission from their male guardian, who must give his consent by signing what is known as the 'yellow sheet' at the airport or border."
When South Africa did this (to black people, rather than women), under Apartheid, the civilised world rightly condemned it, and imposed trade sanctions.
Where are the trade embargoes on Saudi Arabia? They're in contravention of the UN declaration of Human Rights.
We need to get our fracking industry going full bore, convert all semi's to use it, and get to where we import 0% oil from anywhere. Let China and Russia keep the straights of Hormuz clear. Let the Saudies fall back into the decrepit 3rd world pit it deserves to be.
The "service" has been in operation since 2010 and it applies to all "dependents" which includes children, contracted laborers, etc. See: http://riyadhbureau.com/blog/2012/11/saudi-women-tracking. As offensive as the Saudi gov't policies are, getting half the story isn't going to help matters.
I'm guessing about half the population doesn't like this idea. But that half can't vote so who cares about them.
Have you seen what has been going on in Indonesia lately?
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
... if you let the insane Muslims invade them.
Just ask France. France has entire districts run by Muslims that even the police are afraid to enter. In their own country. France is not alone here. It's spreading across Europe.
These are generally not people who assimilate into their new culture melting-pot style. These are people who take over by having a drastically superior birth rate.
I'll give the Muslims credit for one thing - they're smart in that realistic sense, same way the Chinese are. They won't fuck over their own nations with psychotic immigration policies just to prove how "inclusive" they are. We do. Perhaps they deserve to survive in a way that we don't.
No culture that doesn't preserve itself has ever survived, big surprise there. No, valuing and preserving your own culture is NOT wrong in any way and feeling guilty about that is just the kind of plain insanity that's so common these days. It's only wrong if you try to stop someone else from doing the same.
Muslim countries didn't sign UN declaration of Human Rights because they perceived it as not compatible with Islam. Although these countries got own version of Human Rights declaration:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam
- kill them all
This is the best of all of those solutions. Think about it .. it doesn't take any resources at all to implement, and in a generation or so Saudi Arabia will have totally cured itself of all those pesky upstart women!
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it could actually start a ...
pussy riot!
(what? WHAT?? someone had to say it!)
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Firstly, genetics isn't the only form of hereditary. Cultural values are transmitted from parents to children - including attitudes to women. Secondly, the GP was talking about Muslims, which is a religious group, not a racial group.
So, yeah, you're stupid on two counts.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
Too bad you need the shit they export in huge quantities, eh?
Well played, but I'd like to point out that my family does not own a car - we go around mostly by bike or walking (I commute to work by bicycle every workday, even in winter). For the rare occasions that we need to go further than 20 Km, we use public transport. So, while we do use hydrocarbons indirectly (various polymers and other chemicals), we're trying to minimize it by not having a car and recycling plastics.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
So there's this ugly realization that if you embrace the concept that all cultures are equal you must stand by and helplessly watch as little girls have their clitoris mutilated and homosexuals hung. It's like giving people democracy only to find out they want to elect people from the seventh century. Crap. Now what?
'I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life.' ~ Four Leaf Tayback
I'm no feminist, but this is unjust and stupid
It's also hilarious how the USA are all over supposed human rights in Russia and Belarus where people live with dignity, and overlook insane places like the Saudi Arabia is.
It may surprise people but.... Saudi has ALWAYS had this system of tracking women.
As a child, when I left the country to visit my grandparents, accompanied by my mother, we had to be legally escorted to the airport and signed out by my dad, on re-entry we were re-checked into my dad's care.
We were westerners living under the same rules as the locals. This was as far back as early 80s... the system has been in play forever. This is merely a modernisation of the system. I'm not saying I agree with the practice but, this is hardly headline news as its simply an upgrade to rules and methods for applying those rules that have been in play for a long long time.
Why is it only now, when computers get involved that people are having issues with the basic concept? It was widely unknown it appears when the system was paperbased.
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If I had to guess, I'd say ash and felt?
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Just ask France. France has entire districts run by Muslims that even the police are afraid to enter. In their own country.
You're quite right, and is the list of them as they stand right now.
Om, nomnomnom...
Women there are treated like children. But we can't get too high and mighty here. Women only got the right to vote in the US in 1920.
On the other hand, as far as I can tell, never in non-Muslim cultures have women been forced to cover themselves from head to toe, with only their eyes visible. Or not allowed to leave the house without a male custodian. That's a unique curiosity only found in portions of the Muslim world.
...taking them to the vet and "chipping" them.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
You are very courageous behind that keyboard, young master.
Next time tell this to a Saudi man in a face.
That's retarded.
You don't "give" people democracy.
They have to take it for themselves.
You can nudge, encourage, provide education, but ultimately "democracy from above" will never work, because it's a matter of culture and you can't have democracy if first you don't change the culture.
as long as you treat half of your society like cattle, you are never going to have a happy, prosperous, or just culture.
Yes, I know: "honor," "dignity." Well why don't you let your women take care of that for themselves on their own.
The Chinese, the Indians, the Americans, the Europeans, they will advance. And you will fester. Because of your poor choices.
Regards,
the rest of the world
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The fact of the matter is that Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have high rates of population GROWTH, as do Israeli Arabs, which by itself puts paid to the ridiculous claim that Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing. The fact that Israel admits over 100,000 Palestinians from Gaza, Judea, and Samaria for medical care (provided at no charge if the PA does not pay for it) every year is also inconsistent with the claim of ethnic cleansing. Jordan has killed far more Palestinians that Israel ever has.
Perhaps you are mistaken? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country Saudi-Arabia - Female genital mutilation is prevalent, but is declining
'I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life.' ~ Four Leaf Tayback
And consider these interesting 9/11 facts:
o 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi Arabian
o The superstition driving the group is rooted in Saudi Arabia
o Osama bin Laden - Saudi Arabian
o Osama's brother in law, Jamal Khalifa - Saudi Arabian - partially bankrolled the 9/11 group
o Saudi Prince Naif, the interior minister, and Saudi Prince Sultan also partially bankrolled the 9/11 group
o 28 pages of the 9/11 Joint Inquiry report dealing with Saudi Arabian connections have been censored
So Bush attacked... Iraq.
Go figure, eh?
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Because the Saudi regime hasn't given the US any cause to invade -- it already sells oil cheaply. Remember that the only oil-producing countries the US is unfriendly with are ones that hint that they won't follow every whim of US foreign policy (like Venezuela supplying oil to Cuba).
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