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The Wii Mini Is Real, Arrives December 7 — In Canada

An anonymous reader writes "Yesterday there was a rumor doing the rounds that Nintendo was set to release a brand new version of the Wii console called the Wii Mini. The new machine would be significantly smaller than the current Wii, is expected to ship with a Wii Remote Plus, Nunchuk, and Sensor Bar, and hopefully carries a much lower (sub-$100) price. Well, it looks as though this wasn't just a rumor. Best Buy Canada has it listed with an image on its front page and a December 7 release date." Also at PC Mag.

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  1. Cooling by sycodon · · Score: 1

    My son's Wii requires a fan be set up behind it for cooling or it shuts down.

    Presumably they fixed that for this version (may have fixed it previously...I don't know, I just use it for Netflix).

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    1. Re:Cooling by ZiakII · · Score: 4, Informative

      My son's Wii requires a fan be set up behind it for cooling or it shuts down.

      Presumably they fixed that for this version (may have fixed it previously...I don't know, I just use it for Netflix).



      That sounds like a clogged exhaust fan, I would just take a can of air to it, and possibly dissemble the fan and clean it. Never had that problem with mine and it runs in a small shelf under the TV.

    2. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of the first gen models had a similar (maybe the same?). The issue was that when the Wii was idle (and all the fans were off), the video card would still be active. Naturally, this caused some problems for people. I just turn off my Wii when I'm not using it. It's a small inconvenience to have walk up to the Wii and hold the button for a couple seconds, but easy enough to shrug off.

    3. Re:Cooling by rjejr · · Score: 1, Informative

      Turn off the "always on" setting. About 2 years ago they did an update and everybody's Wii has been running hot since then. When your Wii is "off" the front top light should be a deep dark red, NOT orange. Of course since this new one doesn't have any internet overheating and always on won't be a problem.

    4. Re:Cooling by Myrrh · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Don't know where you got that idea, but I've had mine more than two years and the only time the red LED has ever lit up is when the console has lost power. Is this info in the manual somewhere?

    5. Re:Cooling by blackfrancis75 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Err, from TFH:

      The Wii Mini Is Real, Arrives December 7 — In Canada

      Cooling won't be a problem..

    6. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The orange light is an indicator that WiiConnect24 is enabled. This leaves the wireless on while the console is "off", allowing the console to receive messages from your contacts when you aren't using the console. You can disable WiiConnect24 in the system menu.

    7. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      manual???
      What's hard to understand, there are 2 settings.. ORANGE (soft off, always on)
                                                                                                                                                      --RED (Actually OFF)
      you are correct if you have it set to "always on" and you lose power it will go red till the next reboot obviously.

    8. Re:Cooling by egamma · · Score: 4, Informative

      So no, you're talking out your rear end. How about some authoritative information?

      rjejr is correct. You can go into your Wii Settings and turn off the background data options--you know, the one that updates your weather and news and all that while your Wii is in standby mode. If you don't use your Wii for weather/news, you can save yourself some electricity/money by disabling the standby mode.

    9. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Standby (yellow) is pushing the off button quick or using off on the Wii-mote controller. Off (red) is when you hold down the power button for over 2 seconds until it turns red. It is in the manual somewhere, but if I recall it's not somewhere readily obvious.

    10. Re:Cooling by Myrrh · · Score: 1

      Good to know. Thank you.

    11. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why bother with that? I save myself even more electricity by unplugging it when it's not in use.

    12. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's rather rude to accuse someone of talking out of their rear end just because you're too lazy to check that what they said was correct.

    13. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw aliens land in 1951. Call me a liar and you're rude.

    14. Re:Cooling by Bigby · · Score: 5, Funny

      You don't want Japanese products arriving in the US on December 7th...

    15. Re:Cooling by Nyder · · Score: 1

      So no, you're talking out your rear end. How about some authoritative information?

      rjejr is correct. You can go into your Wii Settings and turn off the background data options--you know, the one that updates your weather and news and all that while your Wii is in standby mode. If you don't use your Wii for weather/news, you can save yourself some electricity/money by disabling the standby mode.

      That must be the WiiConnect24 setting.

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    16. Re:Cooling by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 1

      Mod +1 Funny

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    17. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't mind. Liar.

      Truth is, there was no 1951. The world went straight from 1950 to 1952.

    18. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are 2 settings

      The number of settings is three :

      ORANGE - not really off

      RED - mostly off

      Not illuminated - actually off

    19. Re:Cooling by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Actually, it did this right out of the shrink wrap.

      Also, it does this while it is active (so it not an issue of "always" on).

      But what the heck, it works (with the fan) and that's all I'm concerned with.

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    20. Re:Cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So no, you're talking out your rear end. How about some authoritative information?

      "authoritative information" on a child's toy with a whopping 2 different settings?
      If you need a manual to figure that out you might have bigger problems than the 1 cent a year in power its costing you

  2. Wiiii by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Wii2 or Wiiii

    1. Re:Wiiii by JimCanuck · · Score: 2

      Apparently Roman Numerals are not taught in school any more.

    2. Re:Wiiii by ConaxConax · · Score: 1

      The Wii2 or Wiiii

      The WeeWii maybe?

    3. Re:Wiiii by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Canada, Mini Wiis come in bags.

    4. Re:Wiiii by cygnwolf · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure he got it right.... Wii-ii......

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    5. Re:Wiiii by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps the W-1-1

    6. Re:Wiiii by dubbreak · · Score: 3, Funny

      With the December 7th release date maybe they should continue the bad taste on the drop date and call it the WWii.

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  3. No internet? by bananaquackmoo · · Score: 2

    But it has no internet? Really? Seriously? No thanks.

    1. Re:No internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, major dealbreaker. They didn't honestly think this would hurt the sales of the Wii U, did they?

    2. Re:No internet? by Br'fin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A curious choice. But I suppose if they didn't want to go to any effort to future proof the process and just wanted something cheap to go up against those $60 dollar motion activated Genesis knockoffs that CVS tends to carry this time of year... And it's obvious that people buying a Wii Mini aren't going to be focused on the latest and greatest Wii U stuff they want to be promoting on the Nintendo Channel... Still, it's a moderate shame about the Wii Shop and handful of online games.

      *ponder* Does the Mini have fixed system memory and no SD Card support now too? I suppose without SD Card support it wouldn't have the save space memory for as many games/downloads either.

    3. Re:No internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wii U? This is a story about a Wii. Nintendo is releasing Wiis with reduced features to lower costs. They did something similar when they released a revamped, horizontal-style console without GameCube controller ports. They're taking it a step further and removing Internet capability, while continuing to sell Internet-enabled consoles to consumers who want them. I think it's a stupid idea, but that's the deal.

    4. Re:No internet? by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      Why does it need internet?

    5. Re:No internet? by NevarMore · · Score: 2

      Netflix (this is my main use for my Wii)
      Playing games online
      Using the built in browser
      Getting game updates

    6. Re:No internet? by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      I think this is one of those cases where they meant to release the Wii Mini a while ago, but it got internally delayed for whatever reason, so they're releasing it to a scraps market. Next gen consoles may be out by next Christmas already.

    7. Re:No internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Certainly a strange omission, but I assume you can still upgrade it to support internet with a USB ethernet adapter just like the previous iterations. (Not sure if it would support a USB WiFi adapter...)

    8. Re:No internet? by Applekid · · Score: 1

      What gets me is, how much did they save by removing WiFi from a system that already communicates wirelessly to it's controllers? It couldn't have been very much. Microsoft's cheaper 360 design went the other direction and bundled it in! Makes Microsoft look like Santa IMO.

      At least with internet connectivity the console could buy games off the shop at whatever price Nintendo wants to ask. With how mature the Wii game market is, I don't see anyone pinching pennies by buying this system over a Wii classic as buying anything other than cheap used games at no profit to Nintendo. Why wouldn't they want to leave this revenue stream open? Even if they did

      It's not the first time Nintendo re-released a system and fucked it up. The NES 2 dropped the composite connections, SNES 2 dropped S-Video and RGB output (even though the port and cable supported them). Since then further gimping revisions haven't been so obvious. There was a Gamecube revision that dropped the digital video out, removing 480p possibilities, and modern Wiis don't have Gamecube compatibility.

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    9. Re:No internet? by gmarsh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Other than sharing the same 2.4GHz ISM frequency band, bluetooth (used for their controllers) and WiFi share basically nothing. In the regular Wii they use separate chipsets, separate antennas, etc. They're stripping out a few bucks worth of hardware. Not to mention, implementing WiFi in a product invariably involves paying a bunch of license fees to patent holders etc - either included in the price of your wifi chipset or paid separately. This adds a couple more bucks to the design.

      Take the $99 they're selling the thing for at the store and subtract store markup, shipping, factory tooling, packaging, the rest of the stuff in the Wii box, etc. and you don't have much money to spend on the Wii Mini itself. A few bucks spent adding WiFi could end up being a significant part of the cost.

      Honestly, I have to throw some praise at Nintendo for making a game system that's so cheap. My workplace is doing an "adopt-a-family" thing for the christmas season, where employees get together and buy christmas gifts for single parents who can't afford much for their kids. At $99, it's made our shopping list.

    10. Re:No internet? by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Not just no WiFi, but

      Internet connectivity features are not available.

      ..so no Ethernet port either.

      I don't have a Wii, but have considered getting one largely to play the old relatively old cheap games from the Wii store, plus a few Wii specific games.. and thought this cheaper one would be a good fit, but nope..

    11. Re:No internet? by Tarlus · · Score: 1

      And the ability to purchase and obtain WiiWare and Virtual Console games.

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    12. Re:No internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know where you are, but here we can buy an xbox for 150 bucks.

    13. Re:No internet? by n7ytd · · Score: 1

      Take the $99 they're selling the thing for at the store and subtract store markup, shipping, factory tooling, packaging, the rest of the stuff in the Wii box, etc. and you don't have much money to spend on the Wii Mini itself. A few bucks spent adding WiFi could end up being a significant part of the cost.

      Honestly, I have to throw some praise at Nintendo for making a game system that's so cheap. My workplace is doing an "adopt-a-family" thing for the christmas season, where employees get together and buy christmas gifts for single parents who can't afford much for their kids. At $99, it's made our shopping list.

      Your point about separate radios aside, the original Wii is still available for around $120. Wal-Mart had it on black Friday for $89. Losing Internet on this new console for the same price seems to be a step backward.

    14. Re:No internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there is also no SD card slot (emulators/homebrew) then there is no point to the machine at all. You'd come out better grabbing a full size Wii second hand.

    15. Re:No internet? by nhat11 · · Score: 1

      Wii never had a lan port. You need to get a usb adapter to do that.

  4. Were people really upset about the size? by Covalent · · Score: 2

    It's not like the original Wii was enormous...it may have been the smallest major gaming console ever sold. And since the price is not significantly less and the functionality is significantly less (no internet) I'm left wondering one thing:


    Why would Nintendo waste their money developing and selling this?

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    1. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't. It wouldn't surprise me the slightest if this was used for a MCM test because the chips already have good yields. That, or they repackage what they already have.

    2. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by RdeCourtney · · Score: 1

      They're not wasting their money.. is replaces the original Wii. So they have 2 products - The full blown Wii U and then Wii Mini. The Wii Mini will be their entry level machine, no internet is great so I can let the kids play and not have to worry about them accessing the internet - it's a basic console. It's also only $99. If I want to access the internet and have full access to the internet, then I have my Wii U. http://www.nintendo.com/wiimini?country=CA&lang=en/

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    3. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      The Wii U is an entirely different console, it's not the Wii with a touchscreen controller (gamepad). A Wii U game, that comes on a disc, that doesn't even require the gamepad would NOT play on the Wii/Wii Mini

    4. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by randomErr · · Score: 1
      Why would they remove internet from the classic Wii?
      • The internet is rarely used for games. The system is suppose to be used for games. Thats the reason that the GameCube didn't have a full size DVD drive.
      • It costs more to include the networking components and they want to lower the cost for extras in the controller
      • They don't want to support internet services on a previous generation platform
      • Owners are not using the Wii Store because its become stale and is used more on the DS/3DS. You an only download SMB 3 so many times (hint hint Sega).
      • Owners are not watching the Wii preview channels because most of the previews are for the 3DS and Wii U
      • Save on power usage and heat
      • (My guess) most of the internet is used for Netflix and Roku's and tablets can be found that do more

      The new price point is kinda dumb considering the old one with system is still in large supple. But every gaming company offers a stripped down version of the previous generation system. Look at the top loader NES that removed the expansion port and support for many accessories. The Genesis/MegaDrive in its third version completely redesigned it A/V connectors and removed the front audio jack. The CDi... nevermind.

      This is just Nintendo's way of saying this is it for the Wii. Here's solid replacement for when you break your old toy and need a cheap replacement for the kids room. And stores here's a cheap lose leader to sell out those old game CD with.

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    5. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Applekid · · Score: 1

      It's not like the original Wii was enormous...it may have been the smallest major gaming console ever sold. And since the price is not significantly less and the functionality is significantly less (no internet) I'm left wondering one thing:

      Why would Nintendo waste their money developing and selling this?

      To confuse grandparents.

      "My little Pumpkin wants a Wii U. Is that a U? Golly, I can hardly read this. That doesn't make sense. It's probably a Wii 2. Yup, they'll be so happy. Also, let me put a few butterscotch candies in the box."

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    6. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by EdgeyEdgey · · Score: 1

      The Wii U is not entirely different. The Wii U plays Wii games and can use the Wii controlers. You could say that the Wii is a subset of Wii U.

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    7. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its no more a subset of the Wii U than the Game Boy Advance was a subset of the original DS

    8. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Backward compatibility with" is not the same thing as "a subset of".

    9. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Classic Wii menu on the U is actually like the old Commodore C128s (in 64 mode)... they reboot into a separate ROM which has the original Wii firmware. You go back to the Wii U menu by turning off the console.

    10. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Synerg1y · · Score: 0

      Sony does the same with their gaming consoles, I don't remember them removing features though, the timing is way different on the releases also.

    11. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by ericloewe · · Score: 1

      Not entirely, however, the non-original Wii models (the quietely released smaller model and this new mini) are, since they don't play GameCube games (the regular Wii does, unlike the Wii U)

    12. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by dstyle5 · · Score: 2

      I don't remember them removing features though

      The PS3 is the console they did that with. Backwards compat with PS2, ability to install Linux, fewer USB ports I think, etc.

    13. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      The Wii also played Gamecube games, but calling it a superset of a Gamecube is a bit of a stretch.

      The DS played GBA games, but calling it a superset of a GBA is a bit of a stretch.

      The GBA played Gameboy games, but calling it a superset of a Gameboy is a bit of a stretch.

      The PS3 originally played PS2 games, but calling it a superset of a PS2 is a bit of a stretch.

      The PS2 played PS1 games, but calling it a superset of a PS1 is a bit of a stretch.

      etc.

    14. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it costs less than $100. It competes with cheap knockoff consoles that are boring, but poor people play.

    15. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      But the standard price is $130, any do poor people really play knockoff consoles? I think it's mostly people who just don't know any better and think they're getting a deal, same as CVS's $100 android tablets.

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    16. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The standard price unit at $130 doesn't leave much profit, or they sell it at a loss.

      They will sell the Wii Mini for 2 to 3 years at a $50 to $70 price point and make money.

    17. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But the standard price is $130, any do poor people really play knockoff consoles?

      The price may be $130 in the US, but it's $149.99 from BestBuy Canada (you know, where the Wii Mini is being sold), making the Mini 2/3rds the regular price.

      I can certainly see a market here for this, particularly for use in cottage country. Often in such situations, cottages aren't equipped with Internet connectivity, and parents may want a cheaper version of the console they already have at home to allow their kids to play the games they already own while at the cottage. Many of these places still have standard definition TVs as well -- you don't go away to the cottage to sit around and watch movies (we don't even have a TV at ours, but I certainly know many people in our cottagers association who do).

      I guess we'd have to see how sales go after the holiday season. I won't be running out to buy one, but with a 33% price difference I can see price conscious families who want a second console (or their first if they don't own one already -- strange how new children keep popping up in this world...) may be attracted to this as a nice Xmas gift.

      Yaz

    18. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by damnbunni · · Score: 1

      The PS1 lost its parallel and serial ports over the assorted console revisions, and the small version of the PS2 can't support a hard drive. And didn't initial-relase PS2s have FireWire?

    19. Re:Were people really upset about the size? by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      this will be the second strip down, I own one of the little Wii's, the one with no gamecube support, and its almost half the size of the original. Why nintendo would remodel the Wii again after the next console is released, and effectively support 3 platforms at the same time is a bit confusing.

      There is no shortage of Wii's and since the platform has grown stagnant its already a hard sale for overstocked stores, but its not my problem, good luck with that sega ... er nintendo (sorry I was thinking about when sega was supporting the master system, mega drive, 32x sega CD and Saturn at the same time, nintendo has a couple more consoles to toss in there)

  5. No Internet Support??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "While the system has no Internet connectivity options or Gamecube support,..."

  6. Haven't seen that in a while by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Slim consoles are nothing unusual, but they're usually released before the next generation console as a ploy to extend the life of the hardware. The last time that I'm aware of a console manufacturer releasing a slim console after their next-gen console shipped was the Atari 2600 Jr, released in 1985, 3 years after the 5200 was released. In that case the 5200 was such a bomb that Atari needed to buy time for the 7800 to get released. I'm not sure what Nintendo's strategy is here, they already dominate the low end console market.

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    1. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Easy - as a low end option - we're talking $100 here. A price point no one else can match (the Wii's $250 price point was matched and beaten by Sony and Microsoft, and even $200 you can get a basic Xbox. So now Nintendo's uncompetitive so they need to have a lower price still - $100 in this case. The Wii U is still "novel" enough to be able to command $300-350, but the Wii is uncompetitive at its current price point.

      Hell, at $100 it's cheap enough for experimentation or to toss in the car for car trips.

    2. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The PSOne was released after the PS2 was released (in Japan, but a few months before the North American release of the PS2).

    3. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what Nintendo's strategy is here, they already dominate the low end console market.

      The Wii sales are pretty tapped out, last week down to 91k vs 276k for the PS3 and 354k for the Xbox360. I guess they're using the Wii U publicity to get some halo attention for the new, cheaper Wii which occupies a completely different price point.

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    4. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by Black+LED · · Score: 1

      The last time that I'm aware of a console manufacturer releasing a slim console after their next-gen console shipped was the Atari 2600 Jr,

      Under fifty bucks!

    5. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by lexman098 · · Score: 0

      they already dominate the low end console market

      But unlike RIM they see the writing on the wall and want to stay ahead of the android/iOS encroachment on their space. Eventually the Nexus sphere or whatever will re-launch, or maybe something else similar, and it will be a huge contender in the casual gaming space.

    6. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by Bizaff · · Score: 1

      Fifty bucks!?

    7. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by dstyle5 · · Score: 1

      Now isn't that nice!

    8. Re:Haven't seen that in a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure what Nintendo's strategy is here, they already dominate the low end console market.

      The Wii sales are pretty tapped out, last week down to 91k vs 276k for the PS3 and 354k for the Xbox360. I guess they're using the Wii U publicity to get some halo attention for the new, cheaper Wii which occupies a completely different price point.

      I gotta think that the throes of death of the Wii come from the gimmick wearing off. I, along with many others I think, bought into it thinking there was going to be a whole new avenue for games and interactivity. But, in the end, the Wii, like the Gamecube and N64 before it, just got dragged to the bottom of the lake by the chains of shitty 3rd party titles and no real new innovation short of 4 - 6 games that were really just motion-activated versions of existing exclusive Nintendo properties.

      This also explains the usurping of existing cross-platform IP, like Bayonetta 2 and Arkham City. Drop some cash on the developers and now you can point at non-shitty 3rd party titles and claim success: when the reality is that they would be far and above better on even the half a decade old 360.

      As much as I would have liked to laugh at those who said up front it was a gimmick, turns out the detractors were right, and Nintendo only has to look at the paltry numbers now for both the Wii and the WiiU and the 3DS as proof positive that by gunning for the casual gamer, they got heaps of money in the short term at the expense of the long term outlook.

  7. How much smaller really matters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Wii is already pretty minuscule as-is. It's not really significantly bigger than the disc drive it requires (wankers armed with micrometers and a numbers fetish notwithstanding). Sure, if they knocked out the sockets for the Gamecube controllers and memory cards, then they could scrape SOME space off the size of it, but unless they intend on converting the Wii's library into all-downloadable stuff*, they still need the CD-sized disc reader, and that's going to be the majority of the size of it.

    *: And after how catastrophically Sony handled the PSP Go, I doubt Nintendo would be dumb enough to pull the same stunt with another established console like that.

  8. No sign of any specs by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 1

    I don't see any specs or pictures of the rear. I wonder if the Wii will finally get a digital output? Or have DVD playback built in?

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    1. Re:No sign of any specs by RdeCourtney · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:No sign of any specs by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      Considering the original didn't have DVD playback over licensing cost concerns, I doubt the lower-end cheaper model will have it either.

    3. Re:No sign of any specs by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      I don't see any specs or pictures of the rear.

      Bender, is that you?

    4. Re:No sign of any specs by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Analog or component out..

      http://www.nintendo.com/wiimini/what-is-wii-mini/#/whats-in-the-box

      Link doesn't work anymore. Nor did the link to "Best Buy" from the OP have the Wii Mini on the Front page.

      Conspiracy, someone is trying to hide the info...

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  9. Re:How about a new console already? by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    pretty sure the Wii-U is out, I saw a sign somewhere saying they had it in stock.

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  10. Re:How about a new console already? by Merk42 · · Score: 1

    You mean the Wii U that came out 10 days ago?

  11. No Internet but how about homebrew? by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    And if not, is there a price break on the original Wii?

    1. Re:No Internet but how about homebrew? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      You can still get the original Wii for $129 from Walmart US. At only $30 more, I don't see much of a use for this new Wii Mini, especially because it doesn't have internet. Which means it can't play Netflix. You might as just buy the old Wii, which was pretty much already mini, and use that . Plus the old Wii comes with Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort. It looks as though the Wii Mini doesn't come with any games at all.

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    2. Re:No Internet but how about homebrew? by BenoitRen · · Score: 1

      The $129 Wii doesn't have GameCube compatibility, though.

  12. and the pedophiles rejoiced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "hey kid, wanna play with my wee wii?"

  13. Re:How about a new console already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WiiU is a new console.

  14. bad enough when it was just Wii by schlachter · · Score: 1

    Now the kids will be playing with their small Wii?
    Streaming from their little Wii?

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    1. Re:bad enough when it was just Wii by Gerinych · · Score: 0

      There's no streaming on the little Wii, but I get your point.

  15. wee wii by Cyko_01 · · Score: 1

    Wanna play with it?

  16. Re:How about a new console already? by Myrrh · · Score: 0

    Huh. You're right. The commercials I saw led me to believe it worked in concert with your Wii, rather than being its successor. Mea culpa.

  17. Re:How about a new console already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, The Wii U - Nintendo's new console launched in the US last week.

  18. Re:How about a new console already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup... they just released a new console. It's called the Wii U. I don't think they consider making a "mini" version of the Wii to be innovation either.

    They consider making a new console with a screen built into the gamepad to be innovation.

    Whether they should have innovated more beyond the the new gamepad is something you can argue about, but they definitely have released a new console.

  19. Re:How about a new console already? by ravenscar · · Score: 1

    Have you heard of the Wii U?

  20. Nintendo Email by Luthair · · Score: 1

    They sent me this link earlier today: http://www.nintendo.com/wiimini?country=CA&lang=en/

  21. Add internet connectivity using USB? by WillAdams · · Score: 2

    Could one add a (wired?) internet connection using a USB dongle?

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    1. Re:Add internet connectivity using USB? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if they striped all the necessary software out, and provided no way to replace it.

    2. Re:Add internet connectivity using USB? by bedouin · · Score: 1

      I'm using a USB adapter with my Wii. Nintendo sold one themselves. But again, not sure about the software or the extent that it can be modded.

    3. Re:Add internet connectivity using USB? by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      Right.

      I can see the cost-savings in leaving out the radio antenna, and not having to make the case suitable for Wi-Fi, and not including the wireless chip --- I don't see saving enough money on the firmware to justify taking the software out of it.

      If it's still there and a USB dongle works, this becomes a very interesting unit for streaming Netflix and co-op gaming.

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  22. I'll pass... by Nexion · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wouldn't want to be accused of having the smallest Wii on the block.

    1. Re:I'll pass... by Translation+Error · · Score: 1

      There is that, but if you are accused it's definitely best to be able to point to a small game console in your defense.

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  23. F1rst comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the other ~30 were deleted.

  24. Smart Move for Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is similar to Sony's product line up. They continued to sell PS2's pretty solidly until just the last year or so (at least in the US.) If you look at the sales numbers (I haven't recently) they were moving something like 40k units a week. Not too many manufactures would discontinue a product selling that well. Add in the savings with the cost reduce and I'm sure this will continue as a cash cow for Nintendo for quite some time.

    1. Re:Smart Move for Nintendo by Applekid · · Score: 1

      This is similar to Sony's product line up. They continued to sell PS2's pretty solidly until just the last year or so (at least in the US.) If you look at the sales numbers (I haven't recently) they were moving something like 40k units a week. Not too many manufactures would discontinue a product selling that well. Add in the savings with the cost reduce and I'm sure this will continue as a cash cow for Nintendo for quite some time.

      With the exception of losing the HDD expansion bay, the PS2 slim wasn't nearly as gimped compared to the original PS2 as the Wii Mini is to the original Wii.

      The next Game Boy Advance Micro.

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  25. Not News by ilikenwf · · Score: 0

    Seriously...this doesn't matter much. How does this not get collapsed while the story above it about Netflix's open source failover tools getting released on github get does? WTF?

  26. Major missed opportunity by Millennium · · Score: 0

    They should have called it the Wee Wii.

    1. Re:Major missed opportunity by rsborg · · Score: 1

      They should have called it the Wee Wii.

      Or the Wii Oui.

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  27. Needs internet by CQDX · · Score: 1

    For downloading games from the Wii store and Netflix. Half the games my kids play are SNES/N64 classics. When not playing I'm catching up on movies and old TV shows on Netflix.

  28. NES-101 by tepples · · Score: 1

    The last time that I'm aware of a console manufacturer releasing a slim console after their next-gen console shipped was the Atari 2600 Jr

    I seem to remember the NES-101 coming out after the Super NES.

    I'm not sure what Nintendo's strategy is here, they already dominate the low end console market.

    It probably comes with a redesign to defeat Homebrew Channel. For one thing, no Internet means no Homebrew Browser.

    1. Re:NES-101 by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It probably comes with a redesign to defeat Homebrew Channel. For one thing, no Internet means no Homebrew Browser.

      It will almost certainly include a patch to defeat HBC again, but that doesn't prevent one from loading homebrew directly onto an SD card.

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    2. Re:NES-101 by tepples · · Score: 1

      that doesn't prevent one from loading homebrew directly onto an SD card.

      Unless it also patches the IOS used by Brawl not to read files that look like Smash Stack.

  29. Veriton is a wee PC by tepples · · Score: 1

    If you want homebrew on a device the size of a Wii, get a Veriton from Acer.

  30. Just for reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For more informations :
    http://www.nintendo.com/wiimini?country=CA&lang=en/

  31. A Solution in Search of a Question by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    I don't know anyone who ever complained about the original Wii being "too big" (it's already the smallest home console on the market). Or, for that matter, anyone who has purchased one in the past 1-2 years and complained of it being "too expensive" (it's already the least expensive home console on the market). You can buy the regular (white) Wii for $120 right now at Best Buy, the $20 savings is not huge.

    I suspect that these ones also have broken backwards-compatibility with the gamecube, so you are definitely getting less usefulness for less money.

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    1. Re:A Solution in Search of a Question by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I don't have a problem with making it cheaper, or even taking out features WHEN you make it cheaper.. as long as those are made clear.

      It is fairly clear (standard disclaimer at the bottom of the page) that it doesn't play GameCube games.

      The Wii mini console is not compatible with Nintendo GameCube Game Discs or accessories.

    2. Re:A Solution in Search of a Question by Nyder · · Score: 1

      I don't know anyone who ever complained about the original Wii being "too big" (it's already the smallest home console on the market). Or, for that matter, anyone who has purchased one in the past 1-2 years and complained of it being "too expensive" (it's already the least expensive home console on the market). You can buy the regular (white) Wii for $120 right now at Best Buy, the $20 savings is not huge.

      I suspect that these ones also have broken backwards-compatibility with the gamecube, so you are definitely getting less usefulness for less money.

      We can play gamecube games off of usb and SD now on the wii.

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    3. Re:A Solution in Search of a Question by bedouin · · Score: 1

      Not on the second generation Wii, since it lacks the Gamecube ports.

  32. Hey, something else for people to not buy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nintendo waits until after the biggest shopping week and day of the year to release a minature version of a console that is already outdated?

    Then again nintendo itself is outdated. All they do is re-release the same things over and over again so many times they make george lucas look like the most creative, inventive and unique person ever in exsistance.

    Wiiu is just a wii with a new controller slightly upgraded, wii mini is just a smaller wii, the wii is just a gamecube with a new controller. The 3dsxl is just a 3ds with a bigger screen, the 3ds is just a dsi with a 3d gimmick, the dsixl is just a dsi with a bigger screen, the dsi is just a ds lite, the ds lite is just a smaller ds. They havent actually made new hardware in decades, they just slightly upgrade the same old shit.

    Their games are still just pokemon, mario, donkey kong, zelda, mario, etc all going through the same motions as they did 20 years ago. New super mario is nothing new anymore, they just keep rebadging the same games over and over and pokemon is even worse.

    But what kills me is everyone complains about everyone just making the same thing like activision, but they will open their wallets and beg nintendo and praise them for pinching off yet another hot steamy mario game in their games and rebuy the same system with a new controller.

    1. Re:Hey, something else for people to not buy. by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Nintendo waits until after the biggest shopping week and day of the year to release a minature version of a console that is already outdated?

      ...

      Actually, it's not that stupid. The Wii-U is in short supply, and while the Wii did sell good already this year, it gives people a cheaper one to buy instead of buying a kid another 360 or PS3. Will some people boy the Mini Wii thinking it's a Wii-U? Probably, but you can't fix stupid.

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    2. Re:Hey, something else for people to not buy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nintendo waits until after the biggest shopping week and day of the year to release a minature version of a console that is already outdated?

      ...

      Actually, it's not that stupid. The Wii-U is in short supply, and while the Wii did sell good already this year, it gives people a cheaper one to buy instead of buying a kid another 360 or PS3. Will some people boy the Mini Wii thinking it's a Wii-U? Probably, but you can't fix stupid.

      New systems are always in short supply when released: ever since the PS2 it's part of the marketing strategy, and Wii's sales numbers are pretty abysmal even with the new Wii-U on the scene. Think sub 100K unit numbers, while the PS3 and 360 are doing triple that number each.

    3. Re:Hey, something else for people to not buy. by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

      Nintendo waits until after the biggest shopping week and day of the year to release a minature version of a console that is already outdated?

      Please people -- reading comprehension! And maybe understanding a bit of geography...

      According to the summary, the Wii Mini is only being released in Canada. Not the US. And here in Canada, the biggest shopping week and day of the year is Boxing Day (December 26th).

      Setting aside for a moment a number of US stores in this country holding sales on the same day as their US counterparts do on Black Friday, and some Canadian shops following suit to remain competitive with both US-based stores in Canada holding such sales and to help combat cross-border shopping, Black Friday isn't really much of a thing here in Canada. It's not a holiday here, people who work are at work that day. It's just another day.

      Congratulations to you and everyone else who either a) through lack of reading comprehension, didn't notice that the Wii Mini is only being released in Canada, or b) don't know that Canada is still a sovereign country with different traditions and customs (and often prices) than the US.

      Yaz

  33. I'll buy it. by Seumas · · Score: 1

    This is going to confuse the hell out of people this holiday season who are already confused enough about Nintendo's consoles as it is. Nintendo has seemingly done a poor job educating consumers, so they're left often still thinking that Wii U is just a thing you buy to add on to the Wii. They don't realize it's a separate console. This is going to compound that confusion.

    That said, I'll buy one. Primarily because I'd like to have one to put in my shelf full of collected consoles and I have no idea where my actual Wii is. I haven't touched it since Boom Blox came out in 2008 and when I moved, I packed up everything in boxes and forgot which box I put the Wii in. Three years later, I haven't found it. I haven't even looked. I don't even care. Aside from a very few number of first-party titles, they just didn't offer much appeal to anyone other than maybe my mom.

    My PC game collection is around 2,400 titles.
    My XBOX 360 collection is around 300+ titles.
    My PS3 collection is around 40 titles.
    My Wii collection is 18 titles.

  34. sub-$100 by Lord+Lode · · Score: 1

    Yes, indeed, $99 is sub-$100...

    Statistically, the expected value of sub-$100 is $50 though!

    1. Re:sub-$100 by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Yes, indeed, $99 is sub-$100...

      Statistically, the expected value of sub-$100 is $50 though!

      Maybe to you, but in the 40+ years I've a been alive, sub $100 usually meant in the 90's. You say $50 when it's $50 because while 50 is less then 100, it's not close enough to 100 to consider it this way.

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  35. reply by gullfaraz · · Score: 1

    So no, you're talking out your rear end. How about some authoritative information? rjejr is correct. You can go into your Wii Settings and turn off the background data options--you know, the one that updates your weather and news and all that while your Wii is in standby mode. If you don't use your Wii for weather/news, you can save yourself some electricity/money by disabling the standby mode. http://goo.gl/uavVx

  36. You can't use a Wii Mini for Netflix by IYagami · · Score: 1

    According to the Verge (see http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/27/3698060/nintendo-wii-mini-no-internet-no-future ), ", the Wii Mini comes with some unfortunate compromises, most notably the lack of any sort of online connectivity. Instead of being a media streamer-killing Netflix box that can also play a huge library of games, the Wii Mini feels more like a missed opportunity."

  37. What are they doing? by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    I think they are smoking crack at Nintendo.

    1) You can buy a fully functional Wii with 2 games for $150, why buy a crippled variant for $99 that won't allow you to transfer content from an old Wii to this one?
    2) The market is already saturated with Wii's collecting dust. I doubt the number of people that have been waiting patiently for a cheap crippled Wii are significant.
    3) Why make it butt ugly? If they came out with a nice slick mini version of the Wii that was fully functional I could see it people grabbing a second one in the house or cottage. Just because its red doesn't mean Canadians are going to want it.
    4) Why now? Even the Wii U is not significantly more expensive then a $100 crippled Wii. Any kid opening up this POS will be very disappointing when all their friends are opening up a Wii U for only $200 more.
    5) Canadians are rich (comparatively to the US), we do not need a cheap-ass version of the Wii this Christmas. I think Nintendo got Canada confused with the US which is headed for a financial ruin.

    I think Nintendo has jumped the shark (or rather Mushroom). Was just at a Walmart and they had the Wii U in stock. Was at least 3 months before I started seeing Wii's on the store shelves. Nintendo is *****ked.

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  38. I shall call him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mini Wii!

  39. Best Buy's blog post about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://plug-in.bestbuy.ca/t5/Visit-the-Plug-in-Blog/Nintendo-Wii-Mini-Ready-to-Launch-December-7th-for-99-99/ba-p/53938

  40. No online access? seems backwards by fikx · · Score: 1

    Why didn't they go the other way: give the thing lots of storage (cheaper now than when Wii came out) and dump the disk drive? I'm wondering if this could have been a nice little box for those who hate discs lying around...

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    1. Re:No online access? seems backwards by bedouin · · Score: 1

      Modding a Wii is painless. I have a 500gb drive attached to mine and haven't used discs in months.

  41. sloppy web coding by HybridST · · Score: 1

    I tried to RTFA but it crashes Opera on my ipod just after the page finishes rendering. Repeated three times and three crashes with lost tabs each time.

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    1. Re:sloppy web coding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A web page can crash your browser. <sarcasm>Yup, certainly sounds like a problem with the web page rather than the browser.</sarcasm>