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Money Python: Florida Contest Offers Rewards In 2013 Everglades Python Hunt

Press2ToContinue writes "Dubbed the Python Challenge, the month-long contest will award $1,000 for the longest python and $1,500 for the most pythons caught between Jan. 12 and Feb. 10 in any of four hunting areas north of Everglades National Park and at the Big Cypress National Preserve. Pythons have been spreading through the Everglades for years, posing a threat to the sensitive ecosystem by preying on native species. Some estimates put their number in the tens of thousands. Last year, 272 pythons were removed from the wild, state figures show."

132 comments

  1. Ex-python by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Looks like they're off to meet their makes.

    1. Re:Ex-python by flyneye · · Score: 2

      They're making a flying circus of the whole affair.
      Perhaps it would be wise to involve some mens footwear companies both for recycling and my affinity for gaudy expensive boots.

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    2. Re:Ex-python by rndmtim · · Score: 1

      I want to see Money Python's frying carcass.

  2. ob Simpson whacking day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how many Simpsons snake references will there be?!

    1. Re:ob Simpson whacking day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snakes! Snakes everywhere!

      What's whacking day?

    2. Re:ob Simpson whacking day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=simpsons+whacking+day+images&view=detail&id=5214CF23E677F1F1D596B3256EC8D021745196CA&first=46

    3. Re:ob Simpson whacking day by jhoegl · · Score: 2

      How dare you bring Bing links onto Slashdot!
      I feel dirty already.

    4. Re:ob Simpson whacking day by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Won't work, the Everglades are too warm. They'd have to find something else to take care of the snake-eating gorillas.

    5. Re:ob Simpson whacking day by craigminah · · Score: 1

      What's up with all these mudda-beeping snakes in this mudda-beeping swamp?

    6. Re:ob Simpson whacking day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how many Simpsons snake references will there be?!

      The snakes will be hunted and eaten by gorillas, and when the winter comes the gorillas will freeze to death.

    7. Re:ob Simpson whacking day by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      I'll just leave this here.

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  3. No one expects the Serpent Expedition! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh damn!

  4. Cobra effect by andy1307 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Florida should read about the Cobra effect.

    1. Re:Cobra effect by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      It seems like all the British rulers needed to do was instead of instantly scrapping the dead cobra reward, was put the word out that it was being scrapped in whatever duration of time it takes to rear a cobra from hatchling to redeemable size, that way all the remaining cobras being bred would be eventually "redeemed", and no new cobras would be bred, since it would be pointless.

      Just sayin' - I realise this isn't the point of the parable.

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    2. Re:Cobra effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF is this news? Was it in the 'What Hicks do in their spare time' section?

    3. Re:Cobra effect by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      WTF is this news? Was it in the 'What Hicks do in their spare time' section?

      What are you about? Python is an important, widely used computer language. Of course discussion of it belongs on Slashdot.

      Oh. Wait.

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    4. Re:Cobra effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bounties don't always fail; according to my grandfather there used to be all kinds of rattle snake dens, but a bounty on rattlesnakes earlier in the century essentially wiped them out. I think the trick was that the bounties were handled at the township level, and thus it ended up being mostly locals hunting snakes part-time or on weekends. Some random asshat walking in every day with a truckload of snakes would have been figured out pretty quick Plus the local farmers wanted the things dead to make the area safer anyway, so the bounty served more as a way to get people out the door and actually do something about the problem.

      I should qualify these were native snakes, and the terrain was a little more forgiving than I imagine the everglades is. And to finish the story, in the last handful of years our local conservationists had the bright idea to try re-introducing rattlesnakes in the wild. I guess rattlesnakes must be more fun to have around when you don't have to constantly be afraid that the next piece of wood or bale of hay you move is going to reveal an angry poisonous reptile.

    5. Re:Cobra effect by icebike · · Score: 1

      Well, even that probably wouldn't work in this case. Its a different situation.
      Its a national park, where access is pretty difficult in most places, and you don't have a large local resident population in the park to clandestinely breed snakes.

      Further, I suspect you could check hunters into the park, and out again, so you would know they entered with no snakes.

      With a population estimated in tens of thousands, and a catch of only 272, the snake population is already out of control, and you might as well figure out how to deal with your new "indigenous species".

      Historically, attempts to control or eradicate invasive populations intentionally or accidentally introduced to areas has met with only marginal success. Introducing predators of Cobras is probably out of the question, The mongoose being the most common predator, but is also a banned species.

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    6. Re:Cobra effect by rickkw · · Score: 1

      Not if only the the winner of catching the most, or the longest is awarded. No one is going to breed these pythons and release them to the wild just to have a chance to win $1500. Captive breeding is not an option because these pythons have to eat too, and will probably cost more than the award to raise them.

    7. Re:Cobra effect by meerling · · Score: 1

      The only ones I've heard of that succeeded involved islands of limited size and land-born species. (No flyers or strong swimmers.)

    8. Re:Cobra effect by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      Is that where you can't hit anything if you're firing the red lasers?

    9. Re:Cobra effect by EdIII · · Score: 1

      I've got a possible solution to that.....

      Does Python taste good? I love alligator and rattlesnake meat. If you turned it into a business, and had meat packing plants shipping it cross country, there is a whole new industry.

      You would have people attempting to grow them, but that takes awhile. Considering that, you would still have enterprising people searching the wild for them. Or as another poster referred to them, "The Hicks".

    10. Re:Cobra effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hahahahahaha. how is this not +5 funny.........

      I remember one episode where they actually hit something and I was like "OH MY GOD" but they turned out to be dummies and I was like "awww"

    11. Re:Cobra effect by thomasw_lrd · · Score: 1

      I think they eat pythons in foreign countries, and I've heard that rattlesnakes taste pretty good. But it's like everything else. Tastes like chicken.

    12. Re:Cobra effect by dreamchaser · · Score: 2

      It actually does taste pretty good, but I think the large ones would be very tough. You can by meat from smaller pythons in one of the larger 'gourmet' supermarket chains in my area and I've tried it. Not quite the same as rattlesnake; I'd say the latter has a bit sweeter meat, but both are tasty. Then again the store bought python was probably bred and the rattlesnake I've had was wild so maybe it's unfair to compare the taste.

    13. Re:Cobra effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait to the average temperature starts going up along with the sea level. All of a 'sudden' the Everglades will be Miamian's backyard, and pythons will be able to slither up into to Georgia. The only people that will be happy about this will be the Pentecostals. They'll have easier access to bigger snakes, and their, "I told you so's" will take on the ring of truth.

      Can't wait.

    14. Re:Cobra effect by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Everything only tastes like chicken because everyone used to smoke, so no one knew what anything tasted like.

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    15. Re:Cobra effect by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Yes, snake is good.

      But... there is an issue of mercury poisoning... apparently what they've measured in larger top level predators like the snakes, gators, etc. in the Everglades is 3x the amount they deem "safe once in a while" for ocean caught/raised/farmed fish.

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    16. Re:Cobra effect by Dogtanian · · Score: 2

      Does Python taste good?

      It generally tastes much better if you add a lot of mint leaves while cooking it.

      Hence the name, "Minty Python".

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    17. Re:Cobra effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been trolled. The editors thought it would be funny to lead one part of slashdot to think, "oh great! I'll be able to show off my ability to make Monty Python references," another part, "another programming contest, eh," and yet another part of slashdot, "pretty amazing business sense for a slashdot editor; users will either click cause they're interested in ecology, cause they think they might be able to make a witty pun, or cause they feel the need to complain about the story."

    18. Re:Cobra effect by thomasw_lrd · · Score: 1

      I never thought of that.

  5. Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They should just put a bounty on the snakes like they used to do for wolves and mountain lions. $10 for each snake brought in would make an industry out of killing them. If we can drive species to extinction for profit surely we can eliminate these snakes. Make=ing it legal to sell snake meat would help too.

    1. Re:Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Making it legal to sell snake meat would help too.

      Yeah, but before you chow down on some snake, read the Florida Fish and Wildlife site: http://myfwc.com/license/wildlife/nonnative-species/python-permit-program/

      "Permit holders may sell the hide and meat, thus providing a type of compensation (note: Burmese pythons from Everglades National Park have been found to have very high levels of mercury and may not be recommended for human consumption)."

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    2. Re:Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by michelcolman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, introduce a bounty so that people can start breeding them for profit...

    3. Re:Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope, won't work. People will start breeding them instead because that is more profitable than hunting.
      Also those people will have an incentive NOT to solve the problem to keep the money flowing. Guess what the result of that will be.

    4. Re:Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by mikael · · Score: 1

      But then you get people laying down all sorts of traps that kill everything and not just the pythons. Anything that is killed and isn't a python is just tossed away.

      Seems a humane way would be to place down thousands of trapboxes with live webcams, and have some image recognition software to recognise python patterns or just have a "something interesting" button.

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    5. Re:Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by khasim · · Score: 2

      And then tax the python farms. You're a genius!

    6. Re:Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by RogL · · Score: 1

      Yeah, introduce a bounty so that people can start breeding them for profit...

      Set a bounty low enough it's not worth breeding snakes to collect it.
      But it's enough to cover your ammo / lunch / beer costs for a day in the swamp shooting.

    7. Re:Bounty on snake heads is the solution. by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      "Tax the rat farms."
          - Vetinari

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  6. The OTHER Python Challenge by sorensenbill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Made me think of the puzzle website I went through while learning the programing language. Any puzzle lovers out there interested can find it here http://www.pythonchallenge.com/ It can be done with little or no knowledge of the language as long as you don't mind reading the docs.

    1. Re:The OTHER Python Challenge by Clueless+Moron · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why dicks are modding you down; that turned out to be a wonderfully interesting and noncommercial site which (gasp) is news for nerds like me and stuff that matters. I'm glad I caught your post before the "Offtopic" sourpusses did.

      That said, I wasted most of the day on it and am at challenge 11, but I'm finding it's turning out to be less and less about python and more and more about silly logic games. Still, the widely different solutions people come up with are amazing.

  7. Pythons are so incredibly awesome. by mirix · · Score: 5, Informative

    They're sort of... living legends... An alpha release snake.

    Later species are much more streamlined, and have dropped some of their dual organs to make room. (Newer snakes only have one lung, for example. well - they usually have a second joke-sized vestigial lung as well). Fat snakes like pythons and boas have two, still.

    Another neat thing about pythons is they have little.. claw like things, near their exhaust pipe. Remnants of their hind legs. :)
    Reptiles lost in time...

    I understand why they have to go in Florida (which seems hopeless at this point, anyhow), though.
    The first time I saw a Burmese Python (like those in Florida) in person I was just amazed at the size of the thing... A snake that weighs more than me.

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    1. Re:Pythons are so incredibly awesome. by Grayhand · · Score: 3, Informative

      I used to keep pythons. They're surprisingly intelligent and even have personalities. I had a 10' albino that was my favorite. He'd curl up in my lap while I watched TV. I think they are a terrible pet for the average person but the laws they passed are ridiculous because they force most owners into a situation of either having their snakes put to sleep or releasing them. What people don't realize is Florida is the only state in the union that they can survive in. They are extremely sensitive to cold and don't like dry conditions. Banning the transportation in the other lower 48 is nuts. Ban importation fine, ban the sale in Florida fine. In Florida they need a system where people can turn them in no questions asked and hopefully to wildlife rescues and not to be put down. Owners can grow really attached to them and may foolishly release them so they aren't killed. Also ban the breeding of Pythons in Florida. The problem could disappear as in new releases if they aren't allowed to breed. Unfortunately they should have never been allowed in Florida. Now the situation is nearly impossible to control. Florida is still dragging their feet on the solution. There's hunting restrictions in many areas where as they should be encouraged. It'd be worth putting a bounty on them and it could even be partly paid by the sale of the skins. When I was in New Zealand they were selling items like fur covered notepads made of Opossum fur. They imported a type of Opossum from Australia a 100 years ago to start a fur industry. They population is out of control so they are trying everything to irradicate them. Florida needs to get aggressive. Sell python based products and use the money to fund hunts. It may be impossible to get rid of them but you can seriously reduce the numbers.

    2. Re:Pythons are so incredibly awesome. by turkeydance · · Score: 3, Funny

      weighs more than you? you are not from Florida.

    3. Re:Pythons are so incredibly awesome. by Kittenman · · Score: 1

      In Florida they need a system where people can turn them in no questions asked

      Sort of a "python amnesty"?

      And BTW, I'm currently in NZ and am wearing socks that include a mix of opossum wool. I get the occasional urge to climb a tree but no other side-effects. (And in my time here I've also eaten opossum stir-fry. Them's good eating... )

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    4. Re:Pythons are so incredibly awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel I should inform you that we have Possums in New Zealand, not Opossums. While they are similar marsupials, they belong to different families. From Wikipedia: "Opossums (colloquially possums) (Didelphimorphia, /dadlfmrfi/) make up the largest order of marsupials in the Western Hemisphere, including 103 or more species in 19 genera. They are also commonly called possums, though that term technically refers to Australian fauna of the suborder Phalangeriformes."

      The analogy between species is a good one. There have been multiple bounties offered here over the years, and attempts to establish both fur and meat industries. Due to the colder climate, possums here have started growing thicker coats, and the fur is of good quality. Unfortunately hunters tend to kill possums mostly at forest edges and easy to access locations, meaning they never really make a dent in the population. The only real solution that has been found until this point is [sadly] to drop poisons - principally 1080 (Sodium fluoroacetate) - from the air over many hectares of native bush at a time. This is understandably an unpopular policy, but is largely effective. I think Florida will eventually have to look at taking a similar route if they really want to deal to the pythons.

    5. Re:Pythons are so incredibly awesome. by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      I saw a special on TV not too long ago that covered the python problem in Florida. The idea that they cant spread further north is somewhat false. There is an outdoor habitat somewhere in north Georgia (I think) that tested the theory of the snakes inability to survive cold weather and found they were able to survive a Georgia winter. So the pythons could certainly spread throughout the southern US.

  8. Not worth the time and effort by TheNastyInThePasty · · Score: 1

    $1500 for a month's worth of effort? I'll pass. That doesn't even put you above the poverty line.

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    1. Re:Not worth the time and effort by rickkw · · Score: 1

      You tell that to the recreational hunters and fishermen. It's a sport.

    2. Re:Not worth the time and effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if it's your full-time job. Someone could still nab the longest one for $1000, if they hunt more often then it increases the odds. Like gambling with better odds.

    3. Re:Not worth the time and effort by sjames · · Score: 1

      It's not meant to be employment. It's meant to encourage sport hunters to go for pythons next time out.

  9. Why the fuck is this on slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the fuck cares anymore.

  10. Must humanely kill them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So who is going to determine what this is? Greenpeace? The Animal Rights Coalition? The head has to be attached. I was thinking of blowing it head off at 50 feet.

    1. Re:Must humanely kill them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know right? In my home town, the humane society got all uppity when it was discovered dogs were put down with bullets then buried. Boo hoo, not all of the dogs were dead when they were buried. So now the taxpayers have to pay more to put these dogs down 'humanely' and have to make sure they're dead when they're buried. Bleeding heart liberals.

  11. I found their nest.... by mseeger · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.python.org/

    Also very long python there ....

  12. News for nerds? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Did someone confuse Python for Python ?

    1. Re:News for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought "Money Python" was a pun on "Monty Python". Of course, that show was partly named after your first reference, and your second is named after the show. But I must admit I had a bug hunt contest in mind when clicking on the story...

  13. Slashdot Challenge by Required+Snark · · Score: 1
    Money Python + (Language) Python + Monty Python = ?

    Extra Points for "Profit!"

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    1. Re:Slashdot Challenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Money Python + (Language) Python + Monty Python = A tangled nest of Python sex.
      2) More Pythons -> You win the contest.
      3) Profit!

  14. I found five dead ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    #!/usr/bin/python
    def main():
          raise RuntimeError( 'the python' );
          return 0

    if __name__ == '__main__':
          main()

    #!/usr/bin/python
    def main():
          raise RuntimeError( 'on top of' );
          return 0

    if __name__ == '__main__':
          main()

    #!/usr/bin/python
    def main():
          raise RuntimeError( 'your monitor' );
          return 0

    if __name__ == '__main__':
          main()

    #!/usr/bin/python
    def main():
          raise RuntimeError( 'will explode' );
          return 0

    if __name__ == '__main__':
          main()

    #!/usr/bin/python
    def main():
          raise RuntimeError( 'in five seconds' );
          return 0

    if __name__ == '__main__':
          main()

  15. MF'n Snakes on the MF'n Grassy Plain! by trout007 · · Score: 2

    Said no one.

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    1. Re:MF'n Snakes on the MF'n Grassy Plain! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The everglades is an interesting place. It isn't a swamp in the traditional sense. It even has salt water underneath the fresh water on the surface. Think of a very large and shallow lake. There are sand bars and grasses everywhere, and most of it can be walked through. The shallowness is why we in Florida have Airboat rides. They skim over the surface well, even if they are noisy as hell. Everyone in should go on an Airboat ride once.

  16. Double rewards! by alexgieg · · Score: 1

    And they get double rewards for convincing the captured programmer to start developing in PHP!

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  17. Python by todrules · · Score: 1

    When I saw the article at first, I immediately thought this had to do with the Python programming language - since this is Slashdot. Boy, was I wrong. Hmmmm... Maybe the editor just saw the word 'python' and didn't actually read TFA? Probably, since this is Slashdot.

    1. Re:Python by dudpixel · · Score: 1

      Yep, I started reading the summary and thought "oh goody, a python contest! and there's a prize!....oh wait".

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  18. What's wrong with a goldfish? by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why do people own exotic pets when they're only going to abandon them when they inevitably grow larger? In Long Island, N.Y., we've recently had a couple weeks where alligators have been turning up. http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/08/nation/la-na-nn-alligator-new-york-20121008

    "Those beasts paled in comparison to Ming the tiger, who was discovered living in a Manhattan apartment in 2003. Ming's owner, Antoine Yates, unwittingly alerted police to the tiger's existence when he showed up at a hospital with deep bite marks on his leg. Hospital officials didn't believe the story that a dog had caused the bite. When police went to check Yates' apartment, they heard growling through the door." Cops also found (what else?) an alligator in the guy's apartment.

    1. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Why is it always alligators and never kangaroos or something, it what I want to know.

    2. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Good question, since Kangaroos would probably make just as a good a guard animal.

    3. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of the dozen or so people I've met with exotic pets all of them had an IQ a standard deviation or two below the mean.

    4. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no point in reporting a story on a kangaroo, it's not interesting.

    5. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One issue with Kangaroos, assuming you could get one, is that Australia does not have any native cats. So, any animal from there can get sick from bacteria carried in cat feces. Things like that.

    6. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Of the dozen or so people I've met with exotic pets all of them had an IQ a standard deviation or two below the mean.

      The pet or the pet owner? A python with an IQ of 66 or so could be pretty impressive.

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    7. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a loose kangaroo in the Oklahoma City area right now.

    8. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Amouth · · Score: 1
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    9. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by kingturkey · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering how they got that kangaroo. There are strict export controls on live kangaroos from Australia. It's only allowed for non-commercial purposes, such as zoo exchanges, and even then I think they require them to be returned, like the Chinese deal with pandas.

      http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/kangaroos.html

    10. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      As an Aussie, I don't think we want our kanagaroos back, unless it's an extremely rare species such as the yellow-footed wallaby. There are more Bengal tigers in the US than there are in Asia, most are in private hands. Up until the 60's you could buy any kind of animal you wanted from Harrods in London, the US were just a bit slow to ban such practices. The kangaroo in the picture is most likely a common red kangaroo and probably originated from stock that existed before the trafficing laws came into effect. The "big red" can be quite dangerous up close, a full grown male stands at least 6 foot tall.

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    11. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Australia does not have any native cats

      Further proof that humans were not meant to live there.

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    12. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by bjdevil66 · · Score: 1

      Why? In many cases it's just because they're cool - right up until the owner lose interest and/or can't control or afford them anymore. They can't kill their "pet", so they do the cowardly thing and release them into the wild. "Be free, my pet!"... Idiots.

      Example: Earlier this year a friend of mine near our home found 3-4 turtles in an irrigation ditch that had been abandoned. They were about the size of a man's palm each, but they didn't look like any other turtle he'd seen before. He took some pictures and researched them online until he discovered that they were from another warm climate and would eventually grow up to be feet in diameter and hundreds of pounds (if in the right warm, wet environment.)

      Of course the odds of these growing up to their max size in Arizona were low, but the fact that someone would just toss them out in the wild shows that people are just flat out lazy and/or ignorant of the damage exotic species can do to an ecosystem.

      Also, a man who was shot in an apartment earlier this year in Phoenix had a young alligator in there as a pet. (Yes, it's illegal to possess one as a pet here in Arizona).

      People even import the really dangerous critters into the US - black mambas, etc. Does everyone want to be like some Hollywood-style drug lord with something to intimidate people?

    13. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is an "exotic pet" anyway? I've heard the term used to apply to everything from treefrogs to tigers.

    14. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      A python with an IQ of 66 or so could be pretty impressive.

      Yeah, but it's not a very good adder.

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    15. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think the pythons were released into the everglades as a GOP voter suppression tactic...

    16. Re:What's wrong with a goldfish? by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      Cool. You mean to say that alligators aren't native to Arizona? (lol) Why do some people own pitbulls if not to attempt to show how 'thug' they are?

  19. Whacking Day! by afgam28 · · Score: 1

    Oh Whacking Day
    Oh Whacking Day
    Our hallowed snake skull-cracking day
    We'll break their backs
    Gouge out their eyes
    Their evil hearts we'll pulverize
    Oh Whacking Day
    Oh Whacking Day
    May God bestow his grace on thee

    1. Re:Whacking Day! by Chewbacon · · Score: 2

      They're cute and cuddly when they're young. Then people flush them down the toilet.

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  20. wacking season (simpsons) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Life imitates art.

  21. How to catch a python? by sugarmotor · · Score: 1

    How do you catch a python? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7967587.stm It helps they're nonvenomous

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    1. Re:How to catch a python? by Kittenman · · Score: 1

      It involves Barry White.

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  22. My thought exactly by bdwoolman · · Score: 1

    Then I saw it was just snakes in The River of Grass. How come nobody is hunting them to extinction to make cowboy boots?

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  23. exotics by kqc7011 · · Score: 1

    A few years ago I was doing some work in the Everglades National Park and during a pre-work briefing the Chief of Resource Management (person in charge of protecting everything) basically told us "if you see one of those snakes on the road, run it over and then back up over it to make sure".

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  24. Why the hell is a permit needed? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    Put a bounty on them, or at least let people kill as many as they wish. Requiring a permit to kill something you want to exterminate is stupid. Do you need a license to kill rats in Florida?

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    1. Re:Why the hell is a permit needed? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      The Florida Fish & Wildlife site is your friend & helper: http://myfwc.com/license/wildlife/nuisance-wildlife/

      "Gun/Light at Night Permit

      This permit authorizes a landowner or their designee to take depredating wildlife (beaver, bobcat, fox, possum, rabbit, raccoon, or skunk) at night with a gun and light. The permit is not required to take wild hog, coyote, armadillo, black or Norway rat, and house mouse, with a gun and light during non-daylight hours.

      Hunting and trapping wild hogs is not only a popular sport in Florida but a useful tool in man's attempt to control feral populations on private and state lands. Nuisance wildlife trappers that want to shoot or trap feral swine on private lands do not need FWC authorization. Permission of the landowner is all that is required. A permit is not required to take wild hog with a gun and light during non-daylight hours."

      I used to think of Florida as a boring Disneyland vacation place. Now it is sounding like an exciting shoot-the-varmints vacation place.

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    2. Re:Why the hell is a permit needed? by Monoman · · Score: 1

      This! It makes no sense to require a permit to exterminate these things.

      I live in south FL, I have never seen one of these snakes but iguanas are taking over in some areas. Southern FL is a very welcoming ecosystem for many creatures. We have all kinds of invasive species from snakes and iguanas to white flies and lion fish. ...

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    3. Re:Why the hell is a permit needed? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      So, in Florida you can hunt house mice with a gun and a light. But only at night.

      I'm visualizing a couple of good ol' boys down in their basement on Saturday night with a spot light, a couple of 12-gauge shotguns, and a case of beer hunting mice.

      Oh. Wait. Florida. No basements.

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    4. Re:Why the hell is a permit needed? by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      and a case of beer hunting mice.

      Guess how I first interpreted that.

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    5. Re:Why the hell is a permit needed? by kjshark · · Score: 1

      They want to know who's wandering around in the swap shooting at things.

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    6. Re:Why the hell is a permit needed? by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2

      Ever heard of rat-shot? It's perfect for hunting rats and squirrels in attics. Yes, I have gone squirrel hunting in an attic before.

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    7. Re:Why the hell is a permit needed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you train mice to hunt beer?

  25. Tasty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I grew up eating rattlers at the county fair, which taste like chicken and aren't bad with Shake and Bake and ketchup. Pythons? Test 'em for mercury. If they pass, they're dinner.

  26. Python hunting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a friend who was a National Park Service Law Enforcement Ranger. He spent about 9 months down in the Everglades a few years back and was issued two shotguns. One was the typical duty shotgun for a cop, the other was set up for "snake hunting" and they were given the orders to KILL all snakes they found. If it was a python/boa constrictor/etc. it was to be shot 2x to make sure it was DEAD.

    He told me that the estimates were way off, and that every day he could have gone out doing nothing but killing snakes all day. The snakes breed like crazy there, and can and will destroy the local habitat if not checked. These snakes should surely have a proper disposal plan once people are tired of them, and should not be released into the wild. I say we start a bounty program like what Louisiana has on the Nutria rat. You buy a permit and get x amount per kill. There will always be those that will cheat the system and breed them, in addition to those who will try to game the system as a way to make a living. We just need to plan on that and work around it.

  27. Read the parent by fantomas · · Score: 1

    Did you not read the parent post about the "Cobra Effect"? $10 for a snake would not only make an industry out of killing them, it would create an industry of people who would start to breed snakes for profit.. and who would then let them go in to the wild if they were closed down.

    1. Re:Read the parent by publiclurker · · Score: 1

      Only if you could grow a python up to bounty size for a lot less than 10 bucks.

  28. Next up: lion fish! by Chewbacon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They're invading our waters, more importantly reef habitats. The bigger fish haven't recognized them as prey yet as they gobble up all the smaller fish. My local dive shop is paying $5 a head for them and Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation has issued an open season for them, no fishing license required. Good eatin from what I've heard. Tastes like hogfish, just use a paralyzer tip and cut the spines off without poking yourself.

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    1. Re:Next up: lion fish! by Monoman · · Score: 1

      Yeah we are even seeing them in brackish waters. I took a speargun shot at some last year but missed. They are definitely gonna keep booming before we get them under control.

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    2. Re:Next up: lion fish! by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Same idea is in place in the Cayman Islands. They're sponsoring free dives to collect them and encouraging restaurants to find ways of preparing them to help get rid of them.

      https://www.prbuzz.com/archived-press-releases/57468-cayman-dive-operators-offer-free.html

      http://www.compasscayman.com/caycompass/2010/08/11/Lionfish-roundup-an-environmental-coup/

      http://www.cayman27.com.ky/2010/11/02/lionfish-roundup-2

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  29. Wow by EdIII · · Score: 1

    I guess I'm the only one who read that as, "Monty Python" Florida Contest Offers Rewards...."

    1. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are NOT alone. I thought the same too.

      I thought it was something about monty python, and the python language.

  30. Interesting plan ... by divec · · Score: 1

    1. Spark a hunting spree that has no hope of eradicating them.
    2. Apply selective pressure to breed unhuntable pythons.
    3. ???
    4. Profit!

    Or am I missing something?

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    1. Re:Interesting plan ... by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > Apply selective pressure to breed unhuntable pythons.

      After all, look at all the other animals that have been hunted for millenia and have consequently become "unhuntable".

      > Or am I missing something?

      The fact that many species have been hunted to extinction?

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    2. Re:Interesting plan ... by PPH · · Score: 1

      Yeah. You'd think natural selection would produce a raccoon that was un-squishable by cars. Not yet. Not in my neighborhood.

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  31. Want a Mega Python? by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    Send in a Gatoroid. I'd say it's Syfylicious, but there aren't any WWE actors.

  32. Re:Bloodthirsty, fucked up sociopaths of Slashdot. by youngatheart · · Score: 2

    [Checked a mirror, yup, canines.]

    I didn't choose, but I am an animal. By most definitions, yes, we are in fact animals. We have all the instincts of carnivores, an urge to stalk, an urge to hunt and yes, an urge to kill prey.

    Now if I stalk around the house and pounce on things, my family looks at me a little funny because of society or whatever. But if I buy a permit and a bow and go after deer, that's totally acceptable.

    If I'm wandering around the savanna in my PJs and get taken out by a pride of lions, then nobody is going to be blaming the lions, calling them gutless cowards, asking them how brave they're going to be when somebody kills them. They're lions, that's what they do and we're perfectly fine with that.

    If anything, it's human hunters that are on the highroad here. We have rules about when and how we're allowed to kill other animals (and each other.) We're at the top of a food chain, and rather than just killing whatever we can, we restrict ourselves. I can't think of any other predator that does that. That's kind of an intelligent thing and telling a bunch of gun toting predators that they have to do things your way kind of takes guts.

    So yeah, pretty much the opposite of everything you said. Wait, were you being deliberately ironic? It'd be funny if you'd included something that actually had ... well humor in it.

  33. news for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is NOT news for nerds.

  34. China by PPH · · Score: 1

    Spread a rumor that python meat is an aphrodisiac. They'll be extinct in no time.

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    1. Re:China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spread a rumor that python meat is an aphrodisiac. They'll be extinct in no time.

      You are really not too far off. Consider the serious problem of Asian Carp in the Midwest US. An incredibly invasive species with no natural predator, with an appetite that ends up depriving all native fish of any food source.

      The state of Illinois is aggressively fighting back by giving grants to fishermen to catch and sell the fish to China and other nations.

      In the last year, Illinois has handed out nearly $6 million to increase the catch of Asian carp in the Illinois River, including a $2 million grant to the Big River Fish Corporation, of downstate Pearl, to expand operations and ship up to 50 million pounds a year to China.

      Asian carp, though a hard sell for human appetites in the United States, are among the most widely consumed fish in the world, with China the biggest market.

      “It would be silly for our country to have us spend taxpayer dollars to eradicate these things and throw them in a landfill,” Mr. Garvey said. “We might as well make some money out of them.”

  35. Why do I need a license to hunt non-native animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't need a license to set rat traps. Or to throw lampreys you pry off onto the beach. Or to scrub zebra mussels off your docks. It really ought to be open season on any pest species that is disrupting the ecosystem. Pythons and pigs, we ought to cull them as much and as often we can. We may never eradicate them, but we can at least try to keep their populations low. In fact I would argue that a bounty should be offered rather than charging for permits. Might help offset the cost of lead-free bullets when pig hunting.

  36. Well you will know when they are serious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About the python problem when there is a 10.00 dollar reward for each one. and then you will see some real action.

  37. Re:Bloodthirsty, fucked up sociopaths of Slashdot. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    We have all the instincts of carnivores, an urge to stalk, an urge to hunt and yes, an urge to kill prey.

    So what? We have animal instincts to mate whith anyone who can't fight us off, murder rivals or children if they're in the way and steal food or anything else if we want to. The whole point about civilisation is that we place limits on these things.

    Anyway, there is no need or opportunity for most people to hunt for food, and most people who don't live in the countryside in fact have no interest in hunting.

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  38. terminate.py by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    came for the freezing gorillas, wasn't disappointed.

    somebody should build a python termination robot, they could call it the pythonator, and it should be programmed in python^W ruby.

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  39. Charles Fort laughs at your ignorance by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    OOPK is a "real" thing.

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  40. Re:Bloodthirsty, fucked up sociopaths of Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enjoy your soy burger.

  41. Next up, Discovery Channel's Python Hunters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can see it now, Discovery Channel is going to have "Python Hunters", "World's Deadliest Pythons", "Florida Snake Charmers", "Swamp Snake"...

  42. Irony by Captain_Chaos · · Score: 0

    I always find it so ironic when people consider the solution to protecting wildlife to be killing other wildlife. They never explain why the individuals of the other species don't have the right to live and be left in peace just as much as the ones that are being "protected".

  43. They are doing it wrong. by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    This will not slow down the snakes. Instead, they need some reason for hunters to continue going after them. The state would be wise to approach several tanneries within the state and offering to buy various products made with the python. These should be products that can and will be sold on the open market. The idea is to stimulate the tanneries to create sellable products with these and then allowing free enterprise to go after them.

    The nice side effect of this, is that they are creating a number of jobs: tannery, local hunting, etc. as opposed to simply sending money to hunters who will then sell the hide to China.

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  44. GVR Just Left Google for the Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He must've gotten confused and ended up in the Everglade's!

  45. Re:Bloodthirsty, fucked up sociopaths of Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, these things are an invasive species that is fucking up the environment. They're not being killed for sport, it's to prevent them from decimating the local wildlife.

  46. Python Removal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish I could pay someone to remove Python. It may be easy to code in, but it is a bitch and a half for system administrators.

    Fuck you Guido, fuck you.

  47. snake soup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sell it to us chinese, we will buy to make herbal snake soup... and we will pay premiums for them!

  48. Re:Bloodthirsty, fucked up sociopaths of Slashdot. by youngatheart · · Score: 2

    Yup. Thanks for agreeing with me.

    Just because people have urges to act like animals, doesn't mean we should. In fact we have rules and laws to keep us from giving into those urges. That was part of my point.

    I suspect that you drew that one phrase from the larger context because you wanted to make the point that hunting and killing animals is bad, but rather you made the point that it is unnecessary because you prefer an honest tone instead of a belligerent one. I'd agree with you on both counts actually in most situations. Personally, I don't own a hunting gun (or bow) or hunt for sport because my environment (urban) doesn't make it a useful activity. But I add the qualifier "in most situations" because it isn't always true. You added the qualifier "most" as well and I suspect for the same reason.

    The featured article is about the attempt to limit the damage of a non-native invasive species. In this particular instance, the only practical method of limiting the damage is to kill as many of the invasive animals as possible. I am not arguing that it is a good thing to kill them, but rather that in order to preserve the environment we treasure, it is an unfortunate necessity. I admit that I can see the appeal of hunting even if it isn't a strong appeal to me personally and therefore I can see how appealing to hunters to participate is a useful methodology.

    I did grow up in a rural environment and was and remain exposed to many hunters. For many hunters, the actual kill is more of a proof of your skill as a hunter than a necessity, but it does provide the benefit of food for many of them. In trade for investments in time, getting a hunting license, requisite training and certification, and the necessary equipment, many of them provide a year's worth of meat for their families with their skills. I can also tell you from personal experience that the challenge of planning a hunt and the process of stalking is something that appeals to most of them. I actually managed to stalk within arms reach of a deer once, and it was thrilling. I had no desire or plan to kill anything because there was no benefit for me, yet the confirmation of my prowess and being able to see them so closely in the wild is one of my fonder memories.

    That's a secondary point though. My first and hopefully less subtle point was that it is absurd to draw the conclusions or make the generalities found in the post I to which I was replying.