Ask Slashdot: Gifts For a 90-Year-Old, Tech-Savvy Dad?
First time accepted submitter Bearhouse writes "My Dad amazes me with (a) his longevity & energy, and (b) his continued ability to mess around with electronics stuff. Since he already has things ranging from valve amps made from war-surplus, via an original IBM PC kit to an Android tablet, I was going to buy him a Raspberry Pi for Christmas. Turns out he's already got one. I saw nothing that really got me excited here, so your ideas would be appreciated."
Perhaps it's a bit expensive, perhaps it's not, depends on your bugedt, but he most likely would enjoy it as a nice addition and compliment to his projects.
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A breakout board. A 16x2 LCD. A case.
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Get him a Camera Axe. Utterly cool things being done with that toy.
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they're a bit pricey still, though
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Unless he already has 32GB or more.
I always tell people the same thing everytime they ask this question. Ask them. I am sure they have a list... If they dont buy them something retarded. The problem fixes itself the next year :)
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An electronics DIY kit? Check out these to begin with. DIY radios are pretty cool, so is anything dealing with a DIY motor. Another idea is one of those christmas lights programming kits, but that might be a bit much.
You can always get more than one Pi
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Enables you to build your very own battery powered Electronic Enigma machine. Does NOT include wooden case. Requires only basic soldering experience. Extensive easy to read 60+ page manual.
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-- Your 90 year-old dad.
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Not knowing your Dad, or what tools he has, or how geeky he is, or knowing your budget ....
How about some Geek tools?
One thing I'd like is a PC -based oscilloscope.
Variable power supply to power his projects/bread boards?
Bread board kits?
kit to make his own boards?
subscription to Make?
electro luminescent wire and drivers? (coolneon.com)
good luck
a fpga dvelopment board with a few accessories would be a really cool present!
they are relatively cheep and can provide hours of fun and can be used to make pretty much anything
If your Dad is 90, and has the money for whatever gadgets he might want (as evidenced that he goes out and buys them on his own) then what he'd probably most want is to spend some quality time with you.
I know it sounds cheesy, but I run into the same problem trying to buy gifts for my grandmothers. They have everything they need or want, but what they can't buy is time with family.
I'm out of my mind right now, but feel free to leave a message.....
Maybe he's not famous or well-known, but I bet he is interesting as hell. We should all aspire to have that much energy, drive, and interest as we get older... I know way too many people in their 50s and older that refuse to learn anything new. Hearing about a guy that has probably been on top of the latest tech continuously for 70-odd years is just inspiring!
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Help him start putting together his own gadgets? It sounds like he's been doing that for a lot longer than any of us. Without Arduinos.
Anything non techy.
... internet service for life!? *ducks*
So he can design and print his own cases for his builds.
try this site:
http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/
See if you have a local hackerspace around and give him a couple months of membership. Then he can work on whatever he wants.
I know you said he has tube amps but he might want something to complement them. I'm a 66 year old tech savvy grandfather who want's http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-theater/HT-E6730W/ZA
and http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-theater/DA-E750/ZA
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet (I, v, 166-167)
It's fun and reasonably priced. You might find one on Think Geek.
Life takes interesting turns, but the most interest is when you're off the beaten path.
A nice bottle of scotch or bourbon.
He can sip away at it while he noodles away with all of those gadgets.
It doesn't sound like he needs your help in finding technology.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
http://www.indiegogo.com/misfitshine
This is like the Fitbit but new and more durable, longer battery life etc. They don't ship until March but they're leading the CES Last Gadget Standing Contest right now. I got one for my mom and one for myself
He can start his own small Beowulf cluster.
Or 2 lego Mindstorm sets. Then you can compete building the best machine.
I tend to buy in two's for Christmas. That way a remote racecar has something to compeat with.
Oooh, even better... get him the plans and parts for a nixie-tube clock!
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4396235/Microchip-s-Nixie-Tubes-light-up-Design-East
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affordable ones such as the hackable rigol (50 to 100mhz).
there's an OLS (open logic sniffer) for $50ish that is kind of cool and lets you see 16/32 lines of 3.3v or 5v logic signals. runs on usb (laptop friendly) and is kind of cool for not too much money.
I'll also let on that one of my hidden-gem favorite tech toys is a 1950's or 1960's era power supply that is just so 'retro' its cool and he'd appreciate it. its now affordable, where back in the day, only high end labs could afford or own it. search on 'power designs precision' and you'll find $100ish power supply boxes that are restorable (easily) and the metal 'dial it in' knobs are just too cool to explain in words. techies 'get it' and I bet he would, too.
HTH
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"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
Get that man Geocaching.
There's an 82 year-old out hiding and finding caches and having a blast, around here.
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Does he really need or want more stuff?
Where law ends, tyranny begins -- William Pitt
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get him a russian army surplus tank. tell him his mission, should he choose to accept it, is to convert its valve-based electronics over to modern silicon circuits.
What about a networked weather station? Nearly everyone's interested in the weather, and from direct experience I can tell you it's really cool to be able to connect to your station from your smart phone, tablet, or any web browser, and observe current conditions. There are relatively inexpensive complete systems available now, such as from the likes of AcuRite. I have a Rainwise MK-III LR, myself, but those are probably more expensive than most would wish to spend.
Well wishes to your dad-- If I make it to that age I hope to exhibit the same energy and curiosity he still engages. This is great to hear about!
While more "gear head" than "techy", the new hi-tech LED flashlights (Fenix) can probably fit in anyone's home arsenal of tools and toys--whether it's one to 'always carry' or 'store at home for emergency'. These AFAICT are "police grade"--well engineered tools
I've read that some of the models are effective in temporarily blinding intruders
http://www.fenixlight.com/newping.asp
Just kidding.
If I reach the 90's, that's what I want!
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with frickin' laser on their heads!
Has he converted his home/laptop computer to an SSD? Get him an Intel 160 to 256 gig SSD, with the install kit. It makes a large difference - but, only if he does not have one.
and strippers..lots of strippers.
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I second Arduino, I recieved an Arduino based quadcopter kit and have found it to be a lot of fun both from the programming and aeronautic point of view.
you might try the open hardware laptop (if it actually appears)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2020968/coming-soon-a-new-open-laptop-from-the-creator-of-chumby.html
Quadcopters are great fun, and you can build one quite cheaply these days - but flying/learning to fly one might be a bit much for a 90yr-old? (they do need decent vision and good reactions)
I bought my 80+ year old father-in-law a whole box of punch cards and 20 rolls of paper punch tape. He's always complaining he needs computer supplies, I have a feeling these will last him a lifetime!
Ham Radio is a great hobby for someone like your dad. There are technical, social, competitive, and public service aspects to it, and there are so many areas of interest within the hobby that any technical person can find one or more things to pursue. Check out the information and publications at the ARRL (arrl.org) web site.
These things are all over eBay and beyond. He'll have the thrill of building himself something hip & electronic that is practical and works well with tired older eyes.
Check out the Mach64 CPLD kit at xgamestation.com.
It requires a computer with a "real" parallel port (non-USB), but pcmcia ports work fine (be careful with ExpressCard... they're probably pci-express, but COULD be usb in disguise), as will docking stations that implement them via pci or pass through the "raw" (hidden) signal lines from the southbridge (like Thinkpads).
It even works with Vista, Win7, and/or 64-bit Windows. I've personally confirmed and tested it (I didn't want to risk having Christmas ruined by a nonworking new favorite toy) on my T61 running Vista/32 with generic cardbus parallel port bought on eBay. It installed & flashed the board without a hitch :-)
Saw this recently, thought it was awesome. Basically legos for building robots: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1397854503/makeblock-next-generation-of-construct-platform
This man has technology from 70 years ago, all the way up to what is current and cool. Forget buying him technology...especially since something that involves a project is best purchased by the person who finds that project interesting at a particular moment in time.
I would ask this: how technically savvy are you? How much are you like him?
Your father sounds a lot like my grandfather. The man was an electrical engineer, and I have memories of him working at his workbench...he was retired by then, mind you...fixing TVs and other electronics for his friends. He'd get up in the morning, make breakfast, and talk to his friends via CB radio. He kept active, was the first person I knew to get a computer (even before I got mine, back in the mid-80s), and was always looking at new technology.
I'll get to the point in a minute...it's this. One day, I found myself getting up in the morning, making coffee and breakfast, and then talking with my friends on IRC as I read the first emails of the day. I was working from home as a consultant, good at what I do and successful professionally. I help my friends with their computers, and am always playing around with new technologies. And I have to think that perhaps my grandfather would be so happy to know that I followed in his footsteps in so many ways.
So, whether you're highly technical or not, see if you can get involved in what he's doing, a project, an interest. Or, if you have a son or daughter, see if your grandfather can do the same with him/her. At his age, progeny is more precious than any gadget...the idea that things keep flowing forward, the glimpse of the future, the marvel at what technologies his son or grandson/granddaughter will get to play with, even after he's passed away after a long, happy, and fruitful life. This, sir, (I assume sir...forgive me if I'm wrong) is more precious than any gadget you could give him.
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Heh: I just posted the question to the site (submitted by reader Bearhouse); it's not about *my* dad. (My own dad does very occasionally read Slashdot, and is tech savvy in his own, very scattershot way -- he's an EE, which helps, but he can make VCRs blink a mean 12:00. But he's got all the tech toys he needs, scattered somewhere around his basement.)
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He can build it, then use it to build more things:
http://www.shapeoko.com/
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what we know of the guy is "he has a raspi", and an active mind.
For gifts, my personal opinion is that experiences are better than things: concert, play, opera, fancy diner, spa... Unless you're really really sure of an object he'll like, which you don't seem to be.
The Cloud - because you don't care if your apps and data are up in the air.
Maybe a board with more ways to interface with the real world like the Snowball?
Scientia est Potentia
Then he can write collision and out of bounds software.
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Blinking 12:00 was a design defect. If I don't want another clock it should stay blank, not annoying. Modern microwaves finally got this.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
A friend of mine got me a really nice copy of Bode's book, which I now treasure. A look into the minds of the pioneers of your field can be fascinating.
is getting yourself a present in a few years.
Do something with him. Take a week off and travel with him, or hang out, or build something. Play cards and reminisce. Get a new board game like pandemic. He sounds like a smart guy. There is a great card game called 'cold war' for two players. Or get the new x-wing mini game.
When I am 90, I want my kids to find two 45 year old women..and send me their daughters!
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A casket. Oh, but you could add a Raspberry Pi in there to make it high tech. :)
How about a smokin' 22 year old girl in a skimpy bikini. Every 90 year old dad loves those.
The best part is that you could get him another one next year and he'll appreciate it just as much. No more stressing about what to buy.
You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
THIS is how I want to be when I am 90!
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Assuming he has a relatively current PC, you can start for $20 for a RTL2832 based dongle, $100's for a small kit, and $1000's for a complete Amateur Radio System.
"To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
But how about a RealDoll?
It is the pinnacle of silicone/endoskeleton technology.
It would be a great automation project for the rasppi. :D
A witty saying proves you are wittier than the next guy.
@90, Give him your time. You are missing the point of life. You don't know what he has and are just amazed, let him teach you some of what he works with, Start the day with hay Dad show me some of the things you have been working on. IT will be worth more to him and you in the long run, even after he is gone.
23andme is down to $99 for a gene sequence and their usual panel of interesting things that can be identified by it. If your Dad is ninety, he's seen the discovery of DNA, and most of modern biology, so to have his genome sequenced should be pretty neat. He may be interested in his ancestry and there are some practical tips they can give you for health maintenance, drug effectiveness, etc.
It's what I got my ageing father for Christmas. The more family members that participate, the greater the eventual usefulness.
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Blinking 12:00 was a design defect. If I don't want another clock it should stay blank, not annoying. Modern microwaves finally got this.
Protip: Stick a 2" piece of electrical tape over the flashing 12:00. FTFY.
If he is into CAD or just doodling, a bamboo usb drawing tablet might be a nice addition. Yes very hard to shop for dad and even harder with what seems a tech savvy dad.
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Spend more time with him and be sure it is most definitely an inconvenient gift because giving time only when it is convenient doesn't mean quite the same thing. And it already seems like you have similar interests, so get him talking about the things he knows about which you may not fully know about. This work not just for older people, but ALL people. When people feel valued, they feel happy.
So, just go spend time with him and ask him for some kind of help. That'll be just about the best a father could ask for.
I don't have recommendations for anything specific, but or a geek dad, you might browse InnovaToys or probably more appropriately ThinkGeek.
why not get him a Garmin GPS watch that connects to a heart monitor?
practical tech for a 90 yr old!
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Spend time just talking with him. Or maybe working on a project together.
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Peal it off when you want to see the display? Put it back when you are done? These things aren't _only_ clocks.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Yeah, I'm thinking about back in the day of old vcr's, I guess. On those, the clock and timer and counter leds were all separate. I'm old. :-(
Poke around on this website: www.gizmag.com. It's mostly short articles announcing new or future products, but maybe you can find something you think he'd like that's been released and get it for him.
They have sections, and some of these might be helpful:
http://www.gizmag.com/aroundthehome/
http://www.gizmag.com/electronics/
http://www.gizmag.com/wearableelectronics/
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Find some analog dials. They feel so much more satisfying than having it hooked up to a digital counter. And I once saw an old-fashioned typewriter used as a keyboard. A real pain for serious work, but it looked so cool.
I remember mechanical counters on VCRs. Mechanical digital clocks.
When I was a kid we had to get up to change the channel, and we only had 4 channels, that all ran news at the same time, and we liked it.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Just do something together. He doesn't see you very often.
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$50 at Amazon, although it's a little late to be shopping online today.
Get him a 3D printer... the kind with micrometer resolution...get him a Form1 at Kickstarter.
I remember mechanical counters on VCRs. Mechanical digital clocks.
When I was a kid we had to get up to change the channel, and we only had 4 channels, that all ran news at the same time, and we liked it.
When I was a kid, my older sister made me get up to change the channel. :-)
With that many gadgets and time on his hands, he's have just as much fun fixing them as he takes them apart.
OP here.
Thank you all for taking the time to make *mostly* great suggestions.
Of all of them, the most insightful is the one telling me to spend more time with my Dad.
Thank you 'erroneous'.
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I am sure he would enjoy a GERT board for his RaspberryPi http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/RASPBERRY-PI-/83-14460
You do NOT need the extended warranty. Save that for flowers.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
It sounds like the budget is somewhere around $35. Though that would be a pretty nice present.
Let him rent some sweet ultraporn.
Since he already has a (SIP-compatible) Droid smartphone, and he knows about the Raspberry Pi already, get that old fart into low energy server-connectivity pronto I say!
http://nerdvittles.com/?p=3026
Charge him up with credit from 12voipand that that man go.
You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
Well, Imputing his max as $35 for the Pi may be in error. Intel 160 Gig SSD drives are about $125 or so, other makers are cheaper, and are harder to install, but if the father is indeed tech savvy he will be able to install any SSD from basics, and so a 160 could be under $100.
Of course, he may already have SSDs installed - like a true tech-savvy 90 year old.
I used to go to carnivals and put a penny into the shock machine. This was a gimmick thing where you held two round door knobs in each hand and turned one knob to raise the voltage. We tried to see how many volts we could sustain before letting go.
About 60cps of up to 50 volts voltage was available. When I played with valve (tube) stereos, I played with 350 volts dc. I learned the famous rule.
One hand in pockee, no get shockee.
Would your dad want something other than electronics stuff? With my 70+ year eyes, the 7 inch tablet is a pain to use, and the 10 inch ones are no better.
What about a weather station with remote monitoring and with a Radio controlled clock (sometimes referred to as an atomic clock?
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... that you use with him to organize family memories for your grandchildren...
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.