Steve Jobs' Yacht Impounded In Amsterdam
SchrodingerZ writes "The Venus, Steve Jobs' custom-made mega yacht, (valued at 137.5 million dollars), has been impounded in Amsterdam. Philippe Starck, the boat's main designer, had The Venus impounded by debt collectors, after supposedly Starck and his company, Ubik, were paid only 6 million of the 9-million-euro commission. Roelant Klaassen, a lawyer for Ubik, released in a statement that 'These guys [Jobs and Starck] trusted each other, so there wasn't a very detailed contract.' 'The Venus is a floating ode to both Jobs and Starck's minimalist aesthetic. Made entirely out of aluminum, with 40-foot-long floor-to-ceiling windows lining the passenger compartment and seven 27-inch iMacs making up the command center.' The ship was unofficially unveiled in late October, a year after Jobs' death. It now sits dormant in the Port of Amsterdam, until the payment dispute is resolved."
"Valued at 137.5 M$"?
Ahem...
I gather that's what Jobs paid for it, but if his heirs were to put that ugly-ass, unseaworthy monstrosity up for sale, something tells me it would fetch a lot less.
Someone trusted Steve Jobs? Obviously they didn't know him that well.
Except that the thing is controlled by Macs with large screens, how is this piece of news relevant on Slashdot?
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
Well, it's not like he will be needing it any time soon.
Looks like its made out of lego. If I was a billionaire I would design something like the Maltese Falcon Yacht. Now THAT is a work of art!
137 mil, yea its a 137 million dollar monument to fugly
It might something something me. Ah hell I lost it.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Steve Jobs was a nasty mean spirited jerk who always cheated everyone whenever he could. Even close friends. In fact, he has no close friends, just victims who like battered wives thought that THIS time he would change. It is quite sad really that the guy himself that he could never get over his past. Shows you that money doesn't really make people happy.
You got to wonder what made him this way, so obsessed about money and power that he would screw supposed friends over and not even see it as wrong. And continue to do that when any new money would just be a number on a bank account. Compared to Jobs, people like Gates, Branson and Buffet seem a lot happier. Not nicer perhaps in their past but at least with age they learned not to be total assholes all the time. It is not like Jobs did not do any charity but more people will remember him as a prick then as a benefactor. Despite the fact that those friends he did screw over ultimately didn't exactly walk away empty handed.
My epitaph will probably read something like "who?" but it is better then "well, he did give us the iPod but he was such a dick". It not even as if he will be remembered as all that evil. It is just the paranoid always looking out for number 1 that people finally were able to vent after he died.
The guy who made an American company actually produce cool gadgets is more remembered for even in death trying to cheat "friends" and all that over a boat whose ugliness shows that whatever Steve Jobs had for talent, an eye for design was not one of them.
And now for the final insult: This post written on a Samsung Android Phone.
Cry havoc and release the Apple fans!
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
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You know, many have pointed out that men from the middle east (like Job's birth parents) are often intense and overly aggressive. The alleged reason is that in a polygamist society the male competition is far more intense than monogamist societies because some men having many wives means others will have zero wives, and this puts evolutionary pressure to "win" a mate at all costs, even at the risk of death and betrayal.
This may sound "racist" and perhaps "is", but the evidence increasingly is pointing this way, including terrorism evidence. At least think about it and research rather than just mod me a "racist". I'm only presenting an idea to consider. If it's wrong, so be it, but at least look into it on your own even if it strikes you oddly upon first encountering it.
That is the ugliest piece of shit I have ever seen. Its not a boat, its an accident at the aluminum smelter. Not to worry though: you can put it out of its misery by melting it down and turning it into about 500 million Android phones (you could sell the lot for the cost of about 20 iPhones(tm)), and Android would go from 75% market share to 95% market share. Just think about how many iPhones you would have to sell to buy one of these: about 20 iPad owners collectively could have bought it though.
washing each other's back.
Jobs didn't design the ugly boat. And it's only a $7M design.
You recon Jobs is telling God rectangles ought to have rounded corners?
It now sits dormant in the Port of Amsterdam
And here I thought it would require a proprietary port.
Expect this dispute to drag out for a while. Steve is dead, and the market for mega-yachts is never brisk. If the contract had a high content of handshakes and winks instead of numbers with signatures, the dispute could get uglier than the yacht, and that's saying something.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Nice guy, clever and rich... a bit dim perhaps in choosing his friends or at least in doing business with friends (although staying friends even if friends are not perfect is what good guys do). But nice, clever and rich foremost. Neither Jobs or Wozniak ever needed to worry about where their next meal would come from for a long time. So... who would you want to be? The super rich billionaire Jobs or the quite comfortable millionaire Wozniak?
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Someone trusted Steve Jobs? Obviously they didn't know him that well.
Shit, now I have Jaques Brel songs in my head....
I thought the man died already. Are the dead allowed to own things now? Can they bring civil disputes to court? brb, raising some zombies
I'm sure it's decked out with all sorts of cool innovations but god does it look ugly. I can't put my finger on the wrongness except to say the boat looks like the bastard offspring of some 7 year old's first experiments designing a boat with only straight lines and a 1970's prefab building.
paid only 6 million of the 9-million
Clearly, they were holding it wrong.
I heard that Memphis Methodist University Hospital wants their liver back too.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
We have bred various breeds of dogs, horses, cats, swine, chickens, and other animals for our own purposes, within the span of recorded history. {...} If we can make evolutionary changes in those animals, then we can experience evolutionary changes ourselves within the span of recorded history.
The problem with this is the time that 1 generation takes.
- For bacteria, you can observe a lot interesting stuff happening, because a single generation has a time span between couple of dozens of minute and a hour. On a single day you can get near to 100 generations. Spend just 1 week observing them (a little bit less than a thousand generations), and you can see the effect of lots of generation reproducing and adapting and evolving. (That why bacteria are so problematic regarding antibiotic resistance: they evolve rapidly simply because they live at another time scale).
- All the animals you mention have generations that take a couple of years. To observe the effect of evolution (still aiming for a thousand+ generations), you need quite a lot of generations, over a couple of millennia (which is, *indded* the span of recorded history).
- Humans are among the slowest animals to reach maturity, they only start reproducing after a decade and a half, 10 time longer than the other animals you mention. Thus still keeping the time frame you give, this would require a 10 time longer time span to observe the same amount of evolution. We're not speaking a couple of millennia here, but a couple of dozens of millennia, which is much longer than recorded history (and coincidentally is around the age of the homo sapiens specie - so indeed we can expect to have evolution happening at this time scale. The diversifications of ethnicities, for example).
In short:
1000 generations of a bacteria != 1000 generations of cats != 1000 generations of humans != 1000 generation of even slower maturing living being (some trees for example).
And that's neglecting the whole question of evolutionary pressure.
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about pages like this, is that the jokes are all so ORIGINAL!
I am really stunned to see Steve Jobs choosing 40 foot tall Windows for his yacht.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
$137,500,000 of "minimalistic aesthetic".
What planet are you on?
Obligatory tl;dr, but WTF?? ./ is now a pastebin substitute???
Don't worry. There's an app for that.
No-contract business dealings between friends. The number one cause of lawsuits in the world, if you don't count divorce.
Nice one-side post, err, I mean press release. According to the other side, the agreement was for a 6% commission, with the initial budget for construction at $150 million, but actual construction cost turned out to be $105 million.
old news...dispute is already resolved: http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/12/24/beslaglegging-jacht-steve-jobs-opgeheven/
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
-Good Lord! That's over 5000 atmospheres of pressure!
You are not even remotely close. 3000 feet would be less than 100 atmospheres of pressre - you gain exactly one atmosphere for every 32 feet. Still a lot of pressure for sure, but nowhere near what you claim.
Of-course, you didn't take any science or math courses when you went to college, so you never learned that. It is not an excuse for posting such a blatantly false statement when you could have used google to calculate the pressure, however.
3 million = than 6 underwater bubblemortgages
3 million is peanuts.
Also, who cares regardless of the disputed sum.
Steve Jobs had a reputation of being a computer design expert. It is said that he designed the looks of that yacht and I've seen pictures of that yacht. In my opinion, it is ugly and doesn't look to be particularlu seaworthy. The bow in particular is wrong being straight up and down. They make the bows of most boats to be a traditional shape to plow through waves better. It's all about going through rough water. It looks like that boat would not be good in rough water. Steve Jobs should not have helped design the looks particularly of functional parts of that yacht.
This news is at least a week old, and I actually read today that the yacht was released again.
People are starving in our very own continental United States and this jerk decides his money is better off spent on a yacht? Why did Congress allow this to happen instead of, oh I don't know, taking it so 25% of American children don't go to bed hungry each night? Or to provide them with water, heat, clothing? This guy voted Democrat, people.
In Walter Isaacson's biography of Jobs, the late Apple CEO is quoted as saying that, "I know that it's possible I will die and leave Laurene with a half-built boat, but I have to keep going on. If I don't, it's an admission that I'm about to die."
Translation: I know I'll never pay this guy for all his work, as I'm about to die. If I can't royally screw someone over one last time, I just won't be able to live with myself.
I don't know which is sadder: that Steve Jobs was this shallow, hollow person who valued money more than people, or that it says volumes about our country that so many people worshipped him.
She should counter-sue, $6 million even sounds too much for a design.
"Your honor, look at this ugly piece of shit. I want damages."
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
How long 'til that thing's jailbroken?
From the article:
"The Venus is a floating ode to both Jobs and Starck's minimalist aesthetic."
Minimalist and 260-foot megayacht... just doesn't sound like those two things go together.
Using Apple Maps?
who prays for Satan? Who in 18 centuries has had the humanity to pray for the 1 sinner that needed it most? ~Mark Twain
Jobs has a history of screwing others over for money for years. From his lie to Woz before Apple existed, his denying Lisa was his daughter to attempt to avoid payment, the fleecing of Ross Perot and now this.
Upside - he can't screw anyone else from the grave.
The yacht's just been unimpounded and the dispute resolved so, of course, we get the week old news of the start of the dispute on Slashdot.
it should stay impounded, would be dangerous if someone tried to use Apple map at sea.
Seems all I hear are some very jealous people. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Venus may not be what you would build, if you could afford it, but it was what Steve wanted. What Starck, by the way a very noted designer, designed for Steve. Maybe it is in contrast to what other Yachts look like, also nothing introduced by Apple was a copy of something else. If you could afford it, would you simply copy everyone else? Are you afraid someone might not like your Boat? You never have to worry what someone thinks. Are you too weak to be original? If you never make waves you never stand out, you very seldom succeed. Life is an adventure, why not enjoy it.
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/jobss-estate-pays-to-free-impounded-superyacht-20121226-2bvm8.html
And just goes to show jobs got lucky when it comes to designs.