Steve Jobs' Yacht Impounded In Amsterdam

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Steve Jobs' Yacht Impounded In Amsterdam

Posted by timothy on Sunday December 23, 2012 @07:21PM from the that-sounds-spicy dept.

SchrodingerZ writes "The Venus, Steve Jobs' custom-made mega yacht, (valued at 137.5 million dollars), has been impounded in Amsterdam. Philippe Starck, the boat's main designer, had The Venus impounded by debt collectors, after supposedly Starck and his company, Ubik, were paid only 6 million of the 9-million-euro commission. Roelant Klaassen, a lawyer for Ubik, released in a statement that 'These guys [Jobs and Starck] trusted each other, so there wasn't a very detailed contract.' 'The Venus is a floating ode to both Jobs and Starck's minimalist aesthetic. Made entirely out of aluminum, with 40-foot-long floor-to-ceiling windows lining the passenger compartment and seven 27-inch iMacs making up the command center.' The ship was unofficially unveiled in late October, a year after Jobs' death. It now sits dormant in the Port of Amsterdam, until the payment dispute is resolved."

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"Valued"? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-23 19:28 · Score: 5, Insightful

"Valued at 137.5 M$"?
Ahem...
I gather that's what Jobs paid for it, but if his heirs were to put that ugly-ass, unseaworthy monstrosity up for sale, something tells me it would fetch a lot less.
1. Re:"Valued"? by fustakrakich · 2012-12-23 19:37 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  ...something tells me it would fetch a lot less.
  How much does a pound of aluminum get you at the recycling center these days?
  
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2. Re:"Valued"? by symbolset · 2012-12-23 19:40 · Score: 1
  
  It's actually a nice boat. I wouldn't mind sailing on it.
  
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3. Re:"Valued"? by bkmoore · 2012-12-23 19:49 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  "Valued at 137.5 M$"?....something tells me it would fetch a lot less.
  Yes, but it was machined from a single block of Aluminum.
4. Re:"Valued"? by gfody · 2012-12-23 19:52 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Look at this: http://www.onemorething.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Schermafbeelding-2012-10-27-om-13.57.16.png Jobs would've dropped dead at the site of the imac cables coming out of those ikea cabinets and duct taped to the floor.
  
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5. Re:"Valued"? by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-23 20:25 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  Yeah - I looked at the photo. Forty foot long floor to ceiling windows? (in nautical terminology, that would be "forty foot long deck to overhead ports") I guess it's alright to build a boathouse with that kind of crap. A ship? Fek - unless they run the damned thing aground first, it WILL have to weather a storm someday.
  Speaking as a squid who has seen green water (not foam or white water, but green water with fish visible in it) submerge the bridge on an Adams class destroyer, I most certainly don't want to weather a real storm on this all-aluminum-and-glass garbage scow.
  
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6. Re:"Valued"? by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-23 20:27 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  It's all the windows, for me. That yacht is incapable of weathering a real storm. Twenty foot seas will cave those ridiculous windows in, flood, then capsize the stupid thing.
  You sail on it - I don't even want to take a tour while tied to a pier.
  
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  "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
7. Re:"Valued"? by qbitslayer · 2012-12-23 20:40 · Score: 1
  
  Nope. It was printed by Steve Jobs' secret giant 3-D minimalist aluminum/glass printer. Even the imacs were printed.
8. Re:"Valued"? by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-23 20:42 · Score: 2
  
  Funny - but, do you realize how frigging BIG a tooling facility would have to be, to machine a block of aluminum that size?
  Here is one of the biggest presses in the world, and it's not big enough by a long shot:
  http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/02/alcoas_50000-ton_ready_to_go_b.html
  
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9. Re:"Valued"? by Iamthecheese · 2012-12-23 20:51 · Score: 1
  
  for the lazy
  
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10. Re:"Valued"? by Plunky · 2012-12-23 21:24 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  A ship? Fek - unless they run the damned thing aground first, it WILL have to weather a storm someday.
  You speak of storms, sir, yet you also speak of destroyers.. note that the military ships you speak of will be standing on station, or going places that are a bit out of the way for various reasons (training perhaps, to ensure that the crew can take the worst of the weather when they need to)
  But perhaps you don't have a grasp of the leisure aspect especially of the superyacht set? Those boats, like warships, can also travel at 40kts and have access to satellite images, wave height data and very good weather forecasting. They don't need to be anywhere near bad weather and indeed they usually run away when a violent storm approaches. They don't need to demonstrate how tough they are, and the people who own them really just like to lounge around in calm conditions in the sun. They can cross oceans in the calmest conditions, dodging around the worst weather and they usually do. The focus of design of such a yacht is not to endure terrible weather while carrying goods halfway around the world, nor to blockade a port in all weathers. The focus is that the owner is noticed, and envied for their wealth. That this boat is ugly is neither here nor there, it was custom built for 137 MILLION dollars and everybody knows it. The point was that people would look and say Oooh, that belongs to Steve Jobs, I can only dream I could be rich like him.
11. Re:"Valued"? by Plunky · 2012-12-23 22:22 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  Yes, more or less my point exactly...
  
  Bounty
  what were they doing out there in the face of a storm? They thought the ship would be safer at sea but they sure as hell weren't capable of running away from the storm track at 40kts. Even at 25kts, they could have been in florida the day before, or they could have gone the other way and been halfway to europe.
  
  Titanic
  They were on a scheduled crossing with beancounters in control (not in command) and the captain was all 'full steam ahead' when icebergs had been reported.. and note that RADAR had not yet been invented nor did he have access to satellite imagery
  
  Fitz
  They were out on the job going somewhere because they had to get there, in the worst storm the captain had ever seen! leisure superyachts have a different lifestyle, they don't do that.
  
  Only a fool would go to sea aboard a vessel that isn't seaworthy.
  Except that in these modern times, there are plenty of leisure vessels that are seaworthy for the conditions they are used in but not capable of withstanding a hurricane. Is every person who rows across a calm bay on a summer day a fool, because they didn't have a survival suit and an EPIRB on board? Every sailing boat does not need to be equipped for Cape Horn, when they are only going to Catalina Island for the weekend..
12. Re:"Valued"? by mirix · 2012-12-23 22:47 · Score: 1
  
  Stamping or forging isn't machining, for what it's worth. Machining implies cutting processes - so turning, drilling, and milling.
  
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13. Re:"Valued"? by DeBaas · 2012-12-23 23:01 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  I'm sure in a storm Steve would reroute all power to the reality distortion field and it would be all Sunny and a flat sea for them.
  
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14. Re:"Valued"? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-23 23:15 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Someone yelled what you're yelling, and now people are repeating this over the internets.
  Runaway, you are a copy-pasting idiot, not a ship builder, yet you are pretending to make an intelligent comment by a ship builder.
  Guess what, karma begging moron, one can build a seaworthy yacht with those windows:
  http://www.liveyachting.com/motor-yacht-netanya-8
  Guess what, skyscrapers catch even more wind, and they have vertical windows.
  Guess what, you can design a window to cope with such minor forces, you can even design them to go into fucking space, and back.
  Really, everybody with the "Oooh the windows will cave in and it will SINK" comments, and everyone who upmodded that to "5 Insightful" really needs a complete brain transplant. In any case you should be demoted from slashdot, go back to digg.
15. Re:"Valued"? by DrXym · 2012-12-23 23:30 · Score: 1
  
  The heirs should count themselves lucky. If the Apple logo had been fixed in place the boat would have been valued at 250 million.
16. Re:"Valued"? by MrNemesis · 2012-12-23 23:32 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  What makes you think those windows aren't made of inch-thick transparent aluminium? People inside will have a whale of a time, even in a storm.
  
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17. Re:"Valued"? by SternisheFan · 2012-12-23 23:45 · Score: 1
  
  I'd get it for myself, except I'm too cheap to buy Apple. Now, if it ran on Android...
18. Re:"Valued"? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-23 23:54 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  you must be a mac user, they're always saying windows will be your downfall.
19. Re:"Valued"? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-24 00:10 · Score: 1
  
  A true statement, however, simply machining Aluminium will not be as strong as pressing it to a shape.
20. Re:"Valued"? by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-24 00:19 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  You ASSume that because you've read the same or similar objections elsewhere, that I copy pasted my post? First, re-read my post, and point out where I mentioned wind, at all, please.
  Maybe you would care to take a closer look at the Adams class destroyers I served aboard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_F._Adams_class_destroyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Charles_F_Adams_(DDG-2)_underway_c1973.jpg
  Look at the photo, top right side of the page. Just aft of mount 51 (the big gun) and below the flying bridge. solidly welded to the main weather deck, you can see what we call a "break". It's purpose is to break the waves coming over the bow, so that they don't sweep men off the weather decks further aft. That structure is a solid piece of aluminum. Quite solidly welded at the bottom, and all the way up the side. As I recall, that structure was 3/4 inch thick.
  You mention windows withstanding wind stronger than a ship has to withstand at sea. Your ignorance is two fold. Winds at sea are every bit as strong as they are anywhere above land. But - the wind is not the big deal. IT'S THE WATER!!!
  When tens of thousands of tons of water tower over top of you, then come slamming down on your ship, then you begin to understand the power of the sea.
  Look at that break again. We had ours, on the port side, ripped off one night in the North Atlantic. It was late at night, we heard one tremendous "BOOM" when we were hit by an especially large wave, then a hellacious "SCREEEECH" as the metal tore away. Luckily, the superstructure was not breached, or we would have had flooded spaces to deal with quickly, or we would have died.
  Now, go look at your skyscrapers again. Tell me how often the Empire State building has crashed into more tons of water than you can possibly measure.
  Maybe you'd like to revisit some of the tsunami damage done in the Pacific ocean a couple of years ago. How many skyscrapers withstood a 40 foot wall of water crashing into it at 30 knots or more?
  Minor forces, you say? You are a complete and utter fool, who had better never go to sea. A minor force is what you are working with, mentally.
  
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21. Re:"Valued"? by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-24 00:31 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  AFTER I posted, I actually looked at the link you posted - so I'm not done with your foolishness.
  The Netanya is more seaworthy than Job's boat by at least an order of magnitude. Netanya has more windows than I am comfortable with, but they are a small fraction the size of Job's windows. Each pane appears to be solidly anchored, top, bottom, and both sides. As I say, I'm not completely comfortable with them, but they are sensibly sized, and sensibly located.
  Next, look at the bow. A flared bow parts the waves, riding up over the bulk of the wave. You get far fewer of those thousands of tons of water crashing down on you with a flared bow. Look at the overhanging ledges of steel, helping to protect those windows. If/when a few tons of water come down on the windows, those ledges will catch much of the force.
  The Netanya is streamlined in a fashion that enhances the flared bow. The weather deck, and most of the windows are protected by the flaring, as well as the breaks, which extend to the waist.
  I don't *like* those forward facing windows on the first deck, but I'd be willing to sail on the Netanya.
  You can't pay me to sail on Job's boat.
  
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  "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
22. Re:"Valued"? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-24 01:02 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  A ship? Fek - unless they run the damned thing aground first, it WILL have to weather a storm someday.
  You speak of storms, sir, yet you also speak of destroyers.. note that the military ships you speak of will be standing on station, or going places that are a bit out of the way for various reasons (training perhaps, to ensure that the crew can take the worst of the weather when they need to)
  But perhaps you don't have a grasp of the leisure aspect especially of the superyacht set? Those boats, like warships, can also travel at 40kts and have access to satellite images, wave height data and very good weather forecasting. They don't need to be anywhere near bad weather and indeed they usually run away when a violent storm approaches. They don't need to demonstrate how tough they are, and the people who own them really just like to lounge around in calm conditions in the sun. They can cross oceans in the calmest conditions, dodging around the worst weather and they usually do. The focus of design of such a yacht is not to endure terrible weather while carrying goods halfway around the world, nor to blockade a port in all weathers. The focus is that the owner is noticed, and envied for their wealth. That this boat is ugly is neither here nor there, it was custom built for 137 MILLION dollars and everybody knows it. The point was that people would look and say Oooh, that belongs to Steve Jobs, I can only dream I could be rich like him.
  Ships go to sea.
  They will get hit by waves. Big ones.
  Shit happens out at see, and out there you're literally hundreds if not thousands of miles away from help.
  Think about this, bright boy: you're two days out (i.e., it's gonna take you to days to make ANY port) and a squall blows up that drops a waterspout over your toy and wipes out all your antennae.
  OOoops.
  What you going to do now, Einstein? Have spare antennae helicoptered out to you? Your too damn far out.
  Oh, you'll just go 40 knots? First, that little pissant toy doesn't carry enough fuel to go 40 knots for any length of time. Two, with those ridiculous windows going 40 knots is downright dangerous - catch a 10 foot swell wrong and buh-bye windows and half your hull is now open to the sea. Three, that toy can't do 40 knots anyway:
  
  Those boats, like warships, can also travel at 40kts
  BWWWAAA HAAA HAAA
  I was a Surface Warfare Officer (Nuclear) in the US Navy. You're FULL OF SHIT.
  Cruise ships and container vessels are usually about the fastest things crossing the seas at 25 knots or a bit faster. Warships can go balls-to-the-wall and get up over 30, but that burns a LOT of fuel, and they usually just poke about at 15 knots or so. Aircraft carriers because of their length can get up over 35 knots, but they'd just outrun their escorts.
23. Re:"Valued"? by kimvette · 2012-12-24 01:05 · Score: 1
  
  That's actually what killed him. It wasn't the pancreatic cancer.
  
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24. Re:"Valued"? by Centurix · 2012-12-24 01:07 · Score: 1
  
  Plumb bows are terrible in rough weather, they tend to pull down into swell. The increased water line does improve speed though.
  
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25. Re:"Valued"? by AZURERAZOR · 2012-12-24 01:07 · Score: 1
  
  It would be much cheaper if it didn't have the 100% "Apple" Tax... wait till Samsung releases the knockoff
26. Re:"Valued"? by drinkypoo · 2012-12-24 01:18 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Look at the photo, top right side of the page. Just aft of mount 51 (the big gun) and below the flying bridge
  Now I know how people feel when I tell them to look at the component next to the capacitor next to the socket.
  
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27. Re:"Valued"? by drinkypoo · 2012-12-24 01:20 · Score: 1
  
  Is every person who rows across a calm bay on a summer day a fool, because they didn't have a survival suit and an EPIRB on board? Every sailing boat does not need to be equipped for Cape Horn, when they are only going to Catalina Island for the weekend..
  Pure prevarication. We're talking about oceangoing and you want to talk about people tooling around a bathtub. 40kts sounds like a lot until you compare it to the speed at which a storm can move.
  
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28. Re:"Valued"? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-24 01:26 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  blah blah blah RADAR blah blah blah RADAR blah blah blah
  The USS Spruance once ran into Andros Island. She hit so hard she broke off her main mast.
  In the middle of the day. They had, get this, RADAR. They even had EYEBALLS.
  The best crews. The best training. No pressure to be somewhere quickly. Yet shit still JUST HAPPENS.
  You are clueless. You really are FUCKING CLUELESS.
  The Bounty could go 25 knots? No it fucking couldn't. Maybe 16 or 17. With a tailwind. In good seas. In any swells at all that thing would be lucky to do 12 knots.
  Ever been on a 1,000-foot long, 100,000-ton vessel that gets smacked by a wave so damn hard the whole ship rings like a bell and the hull plates on the port quarter get stove in?
  Shit happens out there. And when it does, all it takes is one mistake and lots of people can die.
  And all the electronics available "in these modern times" (I'm LOL at that - literally) won't matter one bit. Cuz the ocean don't fucking care how "modern" you are when it swallows your toy boat with all its pretty windows whole. (OK, they're BUTT UGLY windows, but the point still stands)
  That yacht - no matter its intended "lifestyle" - is an OCEANGOING VESSEL, but it's built in such a way that it simply can not withstand the rigors of what WILL happen out in the ocean. And all the talismans available "in these modern times" can't protect it.
  Might as well put a bone in your nose.
  Cuz the ocean don't fucking care.
  Damn sheltered idiots, thinking just because modern conveniences have made their life easy that there aren't places on this planet that just don't fucking care about that and will KILL them.
  "Oh, we'll just avoid that."
  Not out in the middle of the ocean you fucking won't.
29. Re:"Valued"? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-24 02:07 · Score: 1
  
  I think Bill Gates should buy it ....
30. Re:"Valued"? by flyingfsck · 2012-12-24 02:24 · Score: 1
  
  The problem is that the design is a river barge. It is not an ocean going yacht. That makes it even more of a niche item.
  
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31. Re:"Valued"? by flyingfsck · 2012-12-24 02:32 · Score: 1
  
  I dont think the jobs boat was designed for use at sea. for cruising on river it may be ok.
  
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32. Re:"Valued"? by sribe · 2012-12-24 02:32 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  You mention windows withstanding wind stronger than a ship has to withstand at sea. Your ignorance is two fold. Winds at sea are every bit as strong as they are anywhere above land. But - the wind is not the big deal. IT'S THE WATER!!!
  1) Windows can be built to withstand bomb blasts, but that kind of glass is extraordinarily expensive. Aluminum is orders of magnitude cheaper.
  2) You went where your mission required, even if it meant sailing straight through a typhoon. Private yachts avoid large storms.
33. Re:"Valued"? by tenco · 2012-12-24 02:41 · Score: 1
  
  First picture from the bottom on the left side: http://www.sdtb.de/Marine-Propellers.1945.0.html
  On page ten (Warning: Large PDF): http://www.mmg-propeller.de/fileadmin/mmg/download/MMG_Image_BR_Eng.pdf
  "Even ship propellers of more than eleven metres in
  diameter can thus be machined with an
  accuracy of a few hundredths of a millimetre."
  Ok, it's made for machining casted propellers, but the dimensions come close :)
34. Re:"Valued"? by sam_paris · 2012-12-24 02:45 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Someone mod this guy down, he doesn't know what he's talking about. You think some of the top yacht builders in the world, working for the most exacting clients for millions of dollars have somehow made a huge and epic mistake and made a yacht which actually can't sail at sea at all? Are you crazy? You think you're the only guy in the world who suddenly has identified this fatal floor in the boat? And not the small army of engineers who were working on it for months?
  
  I've sailed on 50 ft yachts with windows on the side and been fine. These windows aren't standard glass like your bathroom mirror, these are custom engineered for the job they do, and they can easily handle some waves hitting them.
35. Re:"Valued"? by TheFakeMcCoy · 2012-12-24 02:45 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  I just find it funny in a thread about Steve Jobs that "Windows" is mentioned so much
36. Re:"Valued"? by Jawnn · 2012-12-24 02:46 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  For anyone who's been on water tall enough to make one forever know his place in Nature's scale of things, you could have summed it up in one derisive word... "lubbers".
37. Re:"Valued"? by myNameIsNotImportant · 2012-12-24 02:48 · Score: 1
  
  Holy shit, that's some hubris you got there.
  Well, good for you. I can only hope you aren't out sailing with that kind of an attitude.
38. Re:"Valued"? by Jawnn · 2012-12-24 02:53 · Score: 1
  
  A ship? Fek - unless they run the damned thing aground first, it WILL have to weather a storm someday.
  You speak of storms, sir, yet you also speak of destroyers.. note that the military ships you speak of will be standing on station, or going places that are a bit out of the way for various reasons (training perhaps, to ensure that the crew can take the worst of the weather when they need to)
  But perhaps you don't have a grasp of the leisure aspect especially of the superyacht set? .
  Going offshore, which one must assume this yacht would do from time to time, means being prepared for the unexpected. That includes heavy weather and tall seas. And no, one can not "just keep an eye on the weather sat and run for cover". Indeed, running for harbor on the lee of a storm is a bad move unless one is certain one can be safely anchored/berthed ahead of the weather's arrival. Were it for cruising around San Francisco Bay, on nice days, that tub would fit right in. But as an ocean-crossing vessel? Never.
39. Re:"Valued"? by QuantumRiff · 2012-12-24 03:18 · Score: 1
  
  That would be correct, if those were windows, and not Transparent Aluminium.
  Jobs is that good.
  
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  What are we going to do tonight Brain?
40. Re:"Valued"? by mark_reh · 2012-12-24 03:31 · Score: 1
  
  It's a yacht and Steve Jobs ferchrissakes. You don't think they'd be filming episodes of "the deadliest catch" on it do you?
  That boat was never intended to leave the harbor on even just a windy day. When you have more money than God you can build $137M yachts and treat them like the big toys that they are.
41. Re:"Valued"? by slashmydots · 2012-12-24 03:50 · Score: 1
  
  I think the ugly design would be outdone by the fact that you can't run any useful navigation software on those 27" iMacs. I'm not actually sure what they're doing in the "command center." Is it for the captain to play Starcraft II?
42. Re:"Valued"? by jellomizer · 2012-12-24 03:59 · Score: 1
  
  It sounds like you are jealous that you don't have a custom built yacht of your own.
  Yes these are toys for the 0.1%.
  
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43. Re:"Valued"? by Plunky · 2012-12-24 04:15 · Score: 1
  
  40kts sounds like a lot until you compare it to the speed at which a storm can move.
  ORLY? Storm systems don't generally move that fast. The wind speed during a hurricane vastly exceeds that (Sandy was only a cat 2, with max sustained wind speeds of 110mph according to wikipedia, less than that when it hit the USA) but the storm itself does not move very fast, it will often dawdle around and my recollection is that it would be a pretty fast system to be doing over 30kts.. Hence my assertion that a fast ship with no reason to be in the area can (and does) get the hell out of the projected track.
  
  We're talking about oceangoing and you want to talk about people tooling around a bathtub.
  No, we are talking about a fancy private yacht built for Steve Jobs. Sure, it can go into the ocean but I am arguing that you can't compare it to a commercial vessel as it never will need to be in the kind of heavy weather that Runaway1956 writes of because a) it will not go where heavy weather is (far North, or far South) or b) it is fast enough to avoid the, comparitively slow moving and localised, heavy weather that occurs in more moderate areas.
44. Re:"Valued"? by toddestan · 2012-12-24 04:22 · Score: 1
  
  And obviously if they get into any trouble, Scotty can beam them out of there, right?
45. Re:"Valued"? by tompaulco · 2012-12-24 04:23 · Score: 1
  
  The focus is that the owner is noticed, and envied for their wealth.
  No, rich people are rich and they know it and don't have to or want to care what people think about their wealth. They just want to enjoy themselves. Now, people who want to be noticed and envied are the upper middle class on down to the poor. In fact, Most rich people don't even own boats because they are tremendous wastes of money, and rich people don't get or stay rich by wasting money. Most boats are owned by middle class people, quite a lot of whom can't actually afford them.
  
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46. Re:"Valued"? by Diddlbiker · 2012-12-24 04:24 · Score: 1
  
  I'm sure there's an app for that.
47. Re:"Valued"? by toddestan · 2012-12-24 04:37 · Score: 1
  
  Scrap it? I say sail it out during a storm via remote control and see if it survives. It would make a great episode of Mythbusters.
48. Re:"Valued"? by Pseudonymus+Bosch · 2012-12-24 04:52 · Score: 1
  
  Just aft of mount 51 (the big gun) and below the flying bridge. solidly welded to the main weather deck, you can see what we call a "break"
  Give me a break!
  
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49. Re:"Valued"? by EdIII · 2012-12-24 05:39 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, but I think he may be dead and not answering the com signals anymore.....
50. Re:"Valued"? by danwiz · 2012-12-24 06:38 · Score: 1
  
  if his heirs were to put that ugly-ass, unseaworthy monstrosity up for sale, something tells me it would fetch a lot less.
  Just call it an iYacht and you'll have people camping on the street for days to buy one.
51. Re:"Valued"? by bill_mcgonigle · 2012-12-24 06:43 · Score: 3
  
  That yacht is incapable of weathering a real storm.
  The yacht is meant to be seen and to torture the aesthetic sense of mundane passers-by - a giant floating ego. Any time the ship is at sea, it's purpose is being diminished.
  The only thing it could be used for at this point is a giant floating Steve Jobs museum - dock it at Monterey and charge $100 to walk through it. Make sure there's nothing inside but one photo of Steve. If people complain, just shake your head and say they're not ready to understand it.
  
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52. Re:"Valued"? by thoughtlover · 2012-12-24 07:31 · Score: 2
  
  Yup. And Windows was their downfall.
  ...a crew member entered a zero into a database field causing a divide by zero error in the ship's Remote Data Base Manager which brought down all the machines on the network, causing the ship's propulsion system to fail.[5]
  I laughed at the 'divide by zero' error that brought the mighty warship down, if not for the practical programming error, but because of my sig. I knew about this incident, but not the reason why. Now that's funny! Divide by zero...
  
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53. Re:"Valued"? by tftp · 2012-12-24 08:03 · Score: 1
  
  Windows can be built to withstand bomb blasts
  As a last resort, when the only alternative is to have your skin against the wavefront of the blast. A typical bunker is concrete and steel, often underground, and you may not even have blast-facing windows - it will be periscopes and fiber optic and video cameras these days.
  Blast-proof windows are often as strong as advertised; however a minute scratch, or a defect in the structure of the material, can shatter them. They are not 100% reliable. Ten feet of concrete are always as reliable as you'd expect.
  A blast-proof window will be replaced after the blast, even if it survived it just fine. Windows on the yacht will be exposed to forces of nature for many years, until one of them fails. Nobody is going to replace them on schedule or after a storm. If they get scratched and weakened, nobody is going to notice that - it's not the Shuttle to have techs crawling all over it with microscopes.
  This means that a blast-proof window has its place as the last line of defense, where it buys you a chance to live when otherwise you should be already dead. But it would be unwise to use it as the first - and the only - line of defense.
  Private yachts avoid large storms.
  It takes two to tango. Do large storms avoid private yachts?
54. Re:"Valued"? by tftp · 2012-12-24 08:11 · Score: 2
  
  You think some of the top yacht builders in the world, working for the most exacting clients for millions of dollars have somehow made a huge and epic mistake and made a yacht which actually can't sail at sea at all?
  It wouldn't be unheard of. Someone had the Titanic built, after all. The science of survivability of ships existed by that time and was pretty well developed for decades. It's just nobody cared to perform the fault analysis.
  Also, you are saying "working for the most exacting clients for millions of dollars" - here is your answer. When your client pays you big bucks to jump, you simply ask "how high?" I'm sure there always are all kinds of safety objections to any luxury feature. The safest boat would be a submarine. But for some reason rich clients want a bit more - windows, decks, furniture that is not welded to the floor, and so on. Probably the shipbuilder prints waivers by the ton, and the ship owner signs them all. Rich people can be demanding sometimes, if not arrogant. Nothing bad can happen to them.
55. Re:"Valued"? by tftp · 2012-12-24 08:29 · Score: 1
  
  why mines say "front towards enemy"
  The cost of the mistake is disproportionally high, compared to the zero cost of engraving a simple text in the mold. From that point on it costs nothing extra to manufacture. Mines can be deployed under fire, or in a covert operation, or at night - when you cannot afford the time or the light to check. The embossed text can be felt with fingers. It makes plenty of sense to have it there.
  simple things like LAW rockets have instructions stuck on the side of it
  Those things are not as simple as you think if they need instructions. Besides, a sticker is a very cheap thing when it allows a replacement soldier, who was never trained on this weapon, to pick it up and use. Can your army afford a situation when the general's driver, the last soldier standing in defense, couldn't fire the LAW that he had just because the manual got lost?
  By the way, AK-47 does not have a field-stripping instruction manual stuck to the weapon. I would like to see how a person who is unfamiliar with the 15-step (IIRC) process would go about taking it apart. He may have to do it under fire. (A trained soldier needs about 10-15 seconds.)
56. Re:"Valued"? by El+Torico · 2012-12-24 08:39 · Score: 1
  
  So, the cult of Steve Jobs and Apple is just like modern art? I thought so.
  
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57. Re:"Valued"? by TimHunter · 2012-12-24 08:47 · Score: 1
  
  But you're forgetting that the typical Slashdotter is one of the the most brilliant people in the world. Sitting in his Mom's basement he can read a story about how 100 of the world's best engineers labored for years to come up with something-or-other and then find the fatal flaw in the plan before he finishes his current box of Cheetos. Either that, or the typical Slashdotter is so full of shit his eyes are brown.
58. Re:"Valued"? by ThePeices · 2012-12-24 08:55 · Score: 1
  
  You think you're the only guy in the world who suddenly has identified this fatal floor in the boat?
  You hypocrite. Its a DECK not a floor.
  Ignorant people indeed. /s
59. Re:"Valued"? by sam_paris · 2012-12-24 09:09 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, typed out that comment rather quickly and after posting noticed that typo... :)
60. Re:"Valued"? by SomePgmr · 2012-12-24 09:27 · Score: 2
  
  Now you wait just a goddamned minute...
  Cheetos come in a box now?!
61. Re:"Valued"? by thegarbz · 2012-12-24 10:20 · Score: 1
  
  1) Windows can be built to withstand bomb blasts
  Yeah we got those at work. Massively thick things made of all manner of wonderful laminates and toughened to boot. They bloody heavy. Oh and can withstand a 20kPa pressure scenario.
  Wouldn't stand a chance against a wave.
  We have another building too much closer to the potential explosion source. That one is designed to withstand a much larger blast and it's defining feature is ... no windows.
  I suggest next time you're in Dubai you go to the mall and check out the thickness of the sheets used to keep the water in their ludicrously sized fishtank. And that's just 6m of standing water, not 6m of water crashing at you with force. Having been on a yacht that got hit by a *small* wave before let me tell you the windows are the first thing to go.
  Oh and as for your second point we weren't planning to go anywhere near a storm either and despite all manner of fancy gadgets and weather reports we didn't make it back to land before being caught in it. Small storms at sea can cause quite massive waves. No need for a typhoon.
62. Re:"Valued"? by thegarbz · 2012-12-24 10:26 · Score: 1
  
  Those boats, like warships, can also travel at 40kts and have access to satellite images, wave height data and very good weather forecasting. They don't need to be anywhere near bad weather and indeed they usually run away when a violent storm approaches.
  My personal experience is the same. Quite a leisurely cruise on a big boat with all the expensive gadgets. We got word of storms building up in the area so went back to port ... didn't make it. The owners had a fun time with the insurance company and one of the crew has a permanent scar to remind him that a wave comming through the closed window making you slide across the deck and face first into the wall is no fun at all.
  The ocean is very predictable. Just look at some of your on-again-off-again hurricane forecasts, and that's looking at well known weather patterns, not some tropical storms which can pop up out of nowhere and cause massive damage to ships long before being classed as a hurricane.
63. Re:"Valued"? by Stupendoussteve · 2012-12-24 10:49 · Score: 1
  
  Are you saying useful navigation software cannot run on x86?
  Even if the price tag wasn't enough that they probably purpose built, or ported some software, Macs can run more than OS X.
64. Re:"Valued"? by Pseudonym · 2012-12-25 11:25 · Score: 1
  
  Blast-proof windows are often as strong as advertised; however a minute scratch, or a defect in the structure of the material, can shatter them.
  Insert joke about Apple products and glass scratches here.
  
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65. Re:"Valued"? by angel'o'sphere · 2012-12-30 20:06 · Score: 1
  
  Googeling "naval navigation software mac os x" gives a few hundret hits ...
  
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66. Re:"Valued"? by angel'o'sphere · 2012-12-30 20:25 · Score: 1
  
  Well, your speed claims of war ships are either simply wrong or deliberate missinformations. As "the enemy" certainly has a good idea how fast the ships are, I doubt this makes any sense.
  Hint: WWII battleship Bismarck already run over 30kn.
  I guess with "they get hit by waves, big ones" you mean "freak wave"? Well, no one can prevent that, however I would say 99% of all yachts have no protection against big waves either.
  Your parent is completely right. Unlike a war ship, which follows a mission, a yacht can gomwheremit pleases.
  And to figure something a bout a storm, after you have lost your antennas, you don't need a sattelite connection but some basic education about weather.
  Running away from a storm in a fast ship is no problem.
  However such a yacht likely makes only 20kn, cruising speed likely in the 15kn - 18kn range.
  Your claim about fuel usage is wrong. A yacht like this has enough fuel to cruise for weeks ...
  
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Strange by Nerdfest · 2012-12-23 19:28 · Score: 4, Insightful

Someone trusted Steve Jobs? Obviously they didn't know him that well.
token joke post by Sigvatr · 2012-12-23 19:30 · Score: 2

Well, it's not like he will be needing it any time soon.
1. Re:token joke post by Jetra · 2012-12-24 01:16 · Score: 1
  
  Yes. Oh my, whatever shall he do? Perhaps God will allow him to come down long enough to finish his payments...If only that were true T_T
Ugly boat anyway. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-23 19:33 · Score: 1

Looks like its made out of lego. If I was a billionaire I would design something like the Maltese Falcon Yacht. Now THAT is a work of art!
1. Re:Ugly boat anyway. by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-23 20:35 · Score: 1, Flamebait
  
  I'm not real sure about the Maltese Falcon's seaworthiness - but I'd be willing to sail on it, to see what I think of it. Job's yacht? I might risk my ex-wife's life aboard that thing, but you wouldn't see me stepping aboard, for any reason.
  
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Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by jkrise · 2012-12-23 19:36 · Score: 1

(valued at 137.5 million dollars)
Yeah, this bit of info could be of relevance to nerds. Infringement of 3 software patents has been adjudicated by a jury for over a billion dollars. So a single software patent can fetch you more than enough money to build yourself a complete custom made yacht. From one infringing company, that too.
Guess that could be enough motivation for nerds to obtain software patents.

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Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by ohnocitizen · 2012-12-23 19:38 · Score: 1

Ahahahahahaha. "Relevant". "News". Oh my god I want to put you in a tiny christmas sweater and plop a chihuahua on your lap and take photos for cuteoverload.
Trying to care by symbolset · 2012-12-23 19:38 · Score: 1

It might something something me. Ah hell I lost it.

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Hehe, trust Steve Jobs by SmallFurryCreature · 2012-12-23 19:41 · Score: 4, Insightful

Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Steve Jobs was a nasty mean spirited jerk who always cheated everyone whenever he could. Even close friends. In fact, he has no close friends, just victims who like battered wives thought that THIS time he would change. It is quite sad really that the guy himself that he could never get over his past. Shows you that money doesn't really make people happy.
You got to wonder what made him this way, so obsessed about money and power that he would screw supposed friends over and not even see it as wrong. And continue to do that when any new money would just be a number on a bank account. Compared to Jobs, people like Gates, Branson and Buffet seem a lot happier. Not nicer perhaps in their past but at least with age they learned not to be total assholes all the time. It is not like Jobs did not do any charity but more people will remember him as a prick then as a benefactor. Despite the fact that those friends he did screw over ultimately didn't exactly walk away empty handed.
My epitaph will probably read something like "who?" but it is better then "well, he did give us the iPod but he was such a dick". It not even as if he will be remembered as all that evil. It is just the paranoid always looking out for number 1 that people finally were able to vent after he died.
The guy who made an American company actually produce cool gadgets is more remembered for even in death trying to cheat "friends" and all that over a boat whose ugliness shows that whatever Steve Jobs had for talent, an eye for design was not one of them.
And now for the final insult: This post written on a Samsung Android Phone.
Cry havoc and release the Apple fans!

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1. Re:Hehe, trust Steve Jobs by dbIII · 2012-12-23 19:56 · Score: 1
  
  Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
  Edison!
2. Re:Hehe, trust Steve Jobs by Tablizer · 2012-12-23 20:18 · Score: 2
  
  By some accounts, Edison was semi-mellow, but investors pressured him to be ruthless after alternating current started hurting their business.
  
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3. Re:Hehe, trust Steve Jobs by ArchieBunker · 2012-12-23 20:49 · Score: 1
  
  Oddly enough Wozniak seems to be the polar opposite.
  
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4. Re:Hehe, trust Steve Jobs by drkim · 2012-12-23 21:16 · Score: 1
  
  My epitaph will probably read something like "who?" but it is better then "well, he did give us the iPod but he was such a dick".
  
  Someday his entire listing in the history books will read something like, "Worked briefly with the great Steve Wozniak. See: Wozniak, Steve."
5. Re:Hehe, trust Steve Jobs by vilanye · 2012-12-24 09:41 · Score: 1
  
  Don't count on it. Dennis Ritchie and John McCarthy died around the same time as Jobs, but both had a bigger impact on computing than Jobs could do in 100 lifetimes, and got next to no press. It is about the cult of celebrity and substance goes out the window. Personally, I have no issue with Jobs or Apple. I don't think I have bought anything from Apple in my life but I am certainly not a rabid anti-Jobs jealous freaks like the people posting here that couldn't do 1/1000 of what Jobs accomplished. In the MS-Apple battle, Apple has clearly won, and unlike MS Apple has a bright future where MS is now IBM at best. Still huge but ultimately irrelevant.
Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by Sulphur · 2012-12-23 19:52 · Score: 1

(valued at 137.5 million dollars)
Yeah, this bit of info could be of relevance to nerds. Infringement of 3 software patents has been adjudicated by a jury for over a billion dollars. So a single software patent can fetch you more than enough money to build yourself a complete custom made yacht. From one infringing company, that too.
Guess that could be enough motivation for nerds to obtain software patents.
Its inner hull is made of titanium and it can dive to 3000 feet.
Wake up to Ubik and be wild! by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · 2012-12-23 19:54 · Score: 2, Funny

We wanted to give you a shave like no other you ever had. We said, It's about time a man's face got a little loving. We said, With Ubik's self-winding Swiss chromium never-ending blade, the days of scrape-scrape are over. So try Ubik. And be loved. Warning: use only as directed. And with caution.
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1. Re:Wake up to Ubik and be wild! by drkim · 2012-12-23 21:19 · Score: 1
  
  Great reference!!
  Wait, does this mean Jobs is alive -- and we're all dead...??!
2. Re:Wake up to Ubik and be wild! by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · 2012-12-24 01:51 · Score: 1
  
  That was my first thought. Glad I don't own a Zune.
Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by dbIII · 2012-12-23 19:55 · Score: 1

And what's more, the custom made yacht can be used to funnel money out of one region to another without having to pay much tax on it. That's where the craze for buying stupidly expensive yachts with gold fittings sailing them once across the Atlantic and then selling them came from. Tax laws have caught up so they tend to get kept longer now than some decades ago and are usually not so stupidly opulent, and tend not to have easily removable gold fittings with no apparent purpose.
Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by Macrat · 2012-12-23 20:09 · Score: 1

Except that the thing is controlled by Macs with large screens, how is this piece of news relevant on Slashdot?
Slashdot loves Macs.
Re:Yea good luck selling that by Tablizer · 2012-12-23 20:11 · Score: 1, Troll

A long metallic box with lots of windows.
It looks like shit today, but in a hundreds years they'll have a renewed and fresh perspective, step back, and gaze upon it as a thorough and genuine work of.....crap, still.

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Re:On Intensity: by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-23 20:17 · Score: 1

It sounds "racist" because to anyone educated it is apparent that the timescales necessary to effect major changes to a populace's psychology through evolution are far, far, far greater than the length of time that institutional polygamy has been present in the middle east. The entirety of written human history is a drop in the bucket as far as evolution is concerned, and to suggest that one can infer psychological traits for an entire race based on cultural organization from the past few thousand years (at most) is the very definition of racism -- the only question is whether it is racism stemming from maleficence or ignorance.
That is the ugliest by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-23 20:19 · Score: 2, Funny

That is the ugliest piece of shit I have ever seen. Its not a boat, its an accident at the aluminum smelter. Not to worry though: you can put it out of its misery by melting it down and turning it into about 500 million Android phones (you could sell the lot for the cost of about 20 iPhones(tm)), and Android would go from 75% market share to 95% market share. Just think about how many iPhones you would have to sell to buy one of these: about 20 iPad owners collectively could have bought it though.
1. Re:That is the ugliest by SternisheFan · 2012-12-23 23:56 · Score: 1
  
  To whoever buys it, please melt it down and make something useful out of it.
2. Re:That is the ugliest by PRMan · 2012-12-24 05:34 · Score: 1
  
  How could a guy that makes such nice looking phones and tablets (and I'm no fan of Apple, but their stuff is pretty) make the ugliest yacht I have ever seen?
  
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3. Re:That is the ugliest by LynnwoodRooster · 2012-12-24 06:07 · Score: 1
  
  How could a guy that makes such nice looking phones and tablets (and I'm no fan of Apple, but their stuff is pretty) make the ugliest yacht I have ever seen?
  Steve didn't design the phones and tablets; Jonathan Ive did. Perhaps Steve should have let Ive handle the design of the yacht?
  
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Re:On Intensity: by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-23 20:38 · Score: 1

*cough*
Polygamy has existed in the mideast since prehistory. Want to try again, with that time scale bullshit?
I don't really agree with GP's post, but it's something that should make a thinking person scratch his head and actually think, before dismissing it as nonsense.

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Force of will by WinstonWolfIT · 2012-12-23 20:39 · Score: 1

You recon Jobs is telling God rectangles ought to have rounded corners?
Obligatory joke post by WWJohnBrowningDo · 2012-12-23 20:41 · Score: 5, Funny

It now sits dormant in the Port of Amsterdam
And here I thought it would require a proprietary port.
1. Re:Obligatory joke post by newslash.formatblows · 2012-12-24 08:05 · Score: 1
  
  I thought he'd only use it inside a walled garden.
Steve doesn't miss it at all... by AliasMarlowe · 2012-12-23 20:51 · Score: 4, Insightful

Expect this dispute to drag out for a while. Steve is dead, and the market for mega-yachts is never brisk. If the contract had a high content of handshakes and winks instead of numbers with signatures, the dispute could get uglier than the yacht, and that's saying something.

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1. Re:Steve doesn't miss it at all... by aaarrrgggh · 2012-12-24 01:45 · Score: 1
  
  No written contract. Stark is a moron.
2. Re:Steve doesn't miss it at all... by hairyfeet · 2012-12-24 02:14 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  I doubt it since I seriously doubt they'd even get what is supposed owed for the thing, as you pointed out mega-yachts is a seriously niche market to start with. Every one of those things I've seen its a giant monument to the rich guy's ego, they want it to reflect THEIR tastes, so I imagine the used market for these things is pretty close to nil. I wouldn't be surprised if the family puts out a few feelers to see if they can get more for it than what is owed and if nobody wants it then it'll end up with this "artist" who'll get the fun of trying to move this fugly thing.
  
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3. Re:Steve doesn't miss it at all... by Gorath99 · 2012-12-24 02:56 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Expect this dispute to drag out for a while. Steve is dead, and the market for mega-yachts is never brisk. If the contract had a high content of handshakes and winks instead of numbers with signatures, the dispute could get uglier than the yacht, and that's saying something.
  Nope. It's already been resolved with the family promising to pay the extra 3 million.
  Source (Dutch; google translate doesn't handle it well): http://www.nu.nl/internet/2990610/familie-steve-jobs-lost-geschil-rond-boot.html
4. Re:Steve doesn't miss it at all... by SomePgmr · 2012-12-24 09:20 · Score: 1
  
  Thanks for that.
  And I'm glad you got it in early... this article was far too TMZ for slashdot, imo.
Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by drkim · 2012-12-23 21:07 · Score: 5, Funny

Its inner hull is made of titanium and it can dive to 3000 feet.
Any ship can dive to 3000 feet.
It's not drowning everyone and coming back to the surface that's the hard part...
And Wozniak will be rememberd as a nice guy by SmallFurryCreature · 2012-12-23 21:09 · Score: 4, Interesting

Nice guy, clever and rich... a bit dim perhaps in choosing his friends or at least in doing business with friends (although staying friends even if friends are not perfect is what good guys do). But nice, clever and rich foremost. Neither Jobs or Wozniak ever needed to worry about where their next meal would come from for a long time. So... who would you want to be? The super rich billionaire Jobs or the quite comfortable millionaire Wozniak?

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1. Re:And Wozniak will be rememberd as a nice guy by cheesybagel · 2012-12-24 02:55 · Score: 1
  
  Wozniak's still alive and didn't need to rip off someone else's liver.
Port of Amsterdam by andrewa · 2012-12-23 21:32 · Score: 1

Shit, now I have Jaques Brel songs in my head....

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Steve Jobs' Yacht by darkfeline · 2012-12-23 21:36 · Score: 1

I thought the man died already. Are the dead allowed to own things now? Can they bring civil disputes to court? brb, raising some zombies
1. Re:Steve Jobs' Yacht by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2012-12-23 21:53 · Score: 1
  
  Dead people earn a lot of money: http://www.forbes.com/2006/10/23/tech-media_06deadcelebs_cx_pk_top-earning-dead-celebrities_land.html
  It's difficult to put them in jail, though, for evading taxes. Or at least for the cellmate, who has to bunk with a stinking corpse.
  If they put that dingy up for auction, some rich Arab or Russian would pay twice the price for it.
  
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2. Re:Steve Jobs' Yacht by FatLittleMonkey · 2012-12-23 22:05 · Score: 1
  
  brb, raising some zombies
  That's not a nice thing to call your lawyers.
  
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3. Re:Steve Jobs' Yacht by ColdWetDog · 2012-12-23 22:41 · Score: 1
  
  Actually that is a rather nice thing to call lawyers, all things considered.
  
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Re:On Intensity: by Runaway1956 · 2012-12-23 21:39 · Score: 1

Nonsense. We have bred various breeds of dogs, horses, cats, swine, chickens, and other animals for our own purposes, within the span of recorded history. We have seen changes in non-domesticated animals, as well. If we can make evolutionary changes in those animals, then we can experience evolutionary changes ourselves within the span of recorded history.

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That's one ugly yacht by DrXym · 2012-12-23 22:06 · Score: 3, Insightful

I'm sure it's decked out with all sorts of cool innovations but god does it look ugly. I can't put my finger on the wrongness except to say the boat looks like the bastard offspring of some 7 year old's first experiments designing a boat with only straight lines and a 1970's prefab building.
1. Re:That's one ugly yacht by Tough+Love · 2012-12-23 22:26 · Score: 1
  
  Apple is just lucky that Steve Jobs never tried to peddle iBoats. Maybe somebody already had the patent on rounded boat corners?
  
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The Legacy Lives On! by VortexCortex · 2012-12-23 22:06 · Score: 5, Funny

paid only 6 million of the 9-million
Clearly, they were holding it wrong.
1. Re:The Legacy Lives On! by slashmydots · 2012-12-24 05:11 · Score: 1
  
  Or the rest was in Itunes store credit but that was hidden in tiny print in an illogical category in the terms of the contract.
I heard that... by Tough+Love · 2012-12-23 22:16 · Score: 1

I heard that Memphis Methodist University Hospital wants their liver back too.

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Re:On Intensity: by FatLittleMonkey · 2012-12-23 22:21 · Score: 1

Not to mention the Russian Arctic Fox program that turned the wild form into happy puppy-dogs in just 10 generations, simply by selecting for handleablility. Major change in behaviour (and appearance) in just a few generations. A hundred generations is plenty of time for culture to affect us.
(Belyaev did the opposite too. Selected a group for the least handleable. Now them's some fun doggies.)

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Generation time lenght by DrYak · 2012-12-23 22:30 · Score: 1

We have bred various breeds of dogs, horses, cats, swine, chickens, and other animals for our own purposes, within the span of recorded history. {...} If we can make evolutionary changes in those animals, then we can experience evolutionary changes ourselves within the span of recorded history.
The problem with this is the time that 1 generation takes.
- For bacteria, you can observe a lot interesting stuff happening, because a single generation has a time span between couple of dozens of minute and a hour. On a single day you can get near to 100 generations. Spend just 1 week observing them (a little bit less than a thousand generations), and you can see the effect of lots of generation reproducing and adapting and evolving. (That why bacteria are so problematic regarding antibiotic resistance: they evolve rapidly simply because they live at another time scale).
- All the animals you mention have generations that take a couple of years. To observe the effect of evolution (still aiming for a thousand+ generations), you need quite a lot of generations, over a couple of millennia (which is, *indded* the span of recorded history).
- Humans are among the slowest animals to reach maturity, they only start reproducing after a decade and a half, 10 time longer than the other animals you mention. Thus still keeping the time frame you give, this would require a 10 time longer time span to observe the same amount of evolution. We're not speaking a couple of millennia here, but a couple of dozens of millennia, which is much longer than recorded history (and coincidentally is around the age of the homo sapiens specie - so indeed we can expect to have evolution happening at this time scale. The diversifications of ethnicities, for example).
In short:
1000 generations of a bacteria != 1000 generations of cats != 1000 generations of humans != 1000 generation of even slower maturing living being (some trees for example).
And that's neglecting the whole question of evolutionary pressure.

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1. Re:Generation time lenght by nedlohs · 2012-12-24 02:17 · Score: 1
  
  Life expectancies don't matter (aside from being a upper limit), breeding age matters, Horses can breed when they are less than 2 years old (as little as 6 months old for some males) - humans take just a tad longer.
2. Re:Generation time lenght by FatLittleMonkey · 2012-12-24 10:09 · Score: 1
  
  2500 years (less than recorded history) is roughly 100 generations, which is vastly more than enough for such a minor behavioural change as increased aggression (the original racist AC's suggestion), particularly if you can get most of it by an increase in adrenaline production (as the Russian experiments suggest.)
  
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The thing I love by Swampash · 2012-12-23 22:43 · Score: 1

about pages like this, is that the jokes are all so ORIGINAL!
1. Re:The thing I love by Petersko · 2012-12-23 22:57 · Score: 1
  
  I know, right? If only we had a beowulf cluster of them. And maybe micro$oft could be involved somehow...
2. Re:The thing I love by slashmydots · 2012-12-24 05:12 · Score: 1
  
  I'm surprised the jokes about the boat actually made their way here since clearly, they're using Apple Maps to navigate.
3. Re:The thing I love by PRMan · 2012-12-24 05:36 · Score: 1
  
  All of us making fun of him are using Android tablets, so Google Maps got us here just fine...
  
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4. Re:The thing I love by Swampash · 2012-12-25 12:18 · Score: 1
  
  Now I know you're just teasing, no-one uses Android tablets. Seriously, I've never even SEEN one anywhere other than in a store display. In the real world they don't exist.
Re:On Intensity: by KiloByte · 2012-12-23 22:46 · Score: 1

Wrong, it's polygamy that's natural, and monogamy that appeared only in early stages of the agricultural revolution because agriculture is far more labour intensive than hunting-gathering. Just take a look at other primates and almost all mammals -- or pretty much, anything but some birds.

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Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by Patch86 · 2012-12-23 23:34 · Score: 1

Only where they can't get out of it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20197710
I am stunned! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · 2012-12-24 00:48 · Score: 1

I am really stunned to see Steve Jobs choosing 40 foot tall Windows for his yacht.

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Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by Sulphur · 2012-12-24 01:31 · Score: 1

Its inner hull is made of titanium and it can dive to 3000 feet.
Any ship can dive to 3000 feet.
It's not drowning everyone and coming back to the surface that's the hard part...
Exactly.
Re:Your equipment leaks? check your FRS channels by torsmo · 2012-12-24 01:38 · Score: 1

Obligatory tl;dr, but WTF?? ./ is now a pastebin substitute???
yacht is incapable of weathering a real storm? by csumpi · 2012-12-24 02:02 · Score: 1

Don't worry. There's an app for that.
Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by Shrike+Valeo · 2012-12-24 02:12 · Score: 1

At least Apple pays taxes. Unlike GE that doesn't may any tax at all.
Three words: One Dollar Salary...
Re:On Intensity: by peragrin · 2012-12-24 02:12 · Score: 1

Of course the trick there is that the offspring of ALL those species are half way or more to maturity in 12 months. The Majority of those species are WALKING in days.
a human 12 month old is barely mobile(in relative comparison at least) Human's are one of the slowest species to mature. Human Kids take over a year to do something just as simple.
Monogamy gives us time to actually raise the kids. As it takes multiple humans to raise one child.

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Ah yes. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-24 02:25 · Score: 1

No-contract business dealings between friends. The number one cause of lawsuits in the world, if you don't count divorce.
the other side by sribe · 2012-12-24 02:34 · Score: 1

Nice one-side post, err, I mean press release. According to the other side, the agreement was for a 6% commission, with the initial budget for construction at $150 million, but actual construction cost turned out to be $105 million.
1. Re:the other side by jackbird · 2012-12-24 03:35 · Score: 1
  
  WTF is Starck doing taking a 6% commission? Starchitects take 15%-20%. Perhaps Starck was taking 20% of the interiors budget, with the shipwrights taking 10%-15% on the hull/mechanicals design.
2. Re:the other side by slashmydots · 2012-12-24 05:14 · Score: 1
  
  He already makes plenty of money on his Iron Man suits and associated technology so this was just a low income side project he did for fun.
old new...dispute is already resolved by swinferno · 2012-12-24 03:15 · Score: 1

old news...dispute is already resolved: http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/12/24/beslaglegging-jacht-steve-jobs-opgeheven/

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Re:News for nerds? Stuff that matters? by tompaulco · 2012-12-24 04:30 · Score: 1

Except that the thing is controlled by Macs with large screens, how is this piece of news relevant on Slashdot?
So, is there software that runs on Macs for maritime navigation? I mean, sure there is probably some toy stuff that you use on your sailboat putting around the bay, but is there actually some sort of luxury yacht-worthy control system software for Macs? Somehow I always figured that stuff was too important to trust to toy OSes like MacOS and Windows.

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slashdot a bit late to the show... by tommeke100 · 2012-12-24 05:31 · Score: 1

This news is at least a week old, and I actually read today that the yacht was released again.
Re:On Intensity: by PRMan · 2012-12-24 05:33 · Score: 1

There is a difference between breeding characteristics for which the DNA is already present and seeing lasting mutations for which the DNA is not yet present. You are confusing the two. Within recorded history, we have not seen the second.

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Re:holy science fail batman! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-12-24 06:12 · Score: 1

Actually what it shows that you have never watched Futurama.
Is that what you church endorses as an alternative to scientific education? I'd love to know what they recommend in place of Phy Ed.
Immoral to The Very End by StormReaver · 2012-12-24 06:17 · Score: 2

In Walter Isaacson's biography of Jobs, the late Apple CEO is quoted as saying that, "I know that it's possible I will die and leave Laurene with a half-built boat, but I have to keep going on. If I don't, it's an admission that I'm about to die."
Translation: I know I'll never pay this guy for all his work, as I'm about to die. If I can't royally screw someone over one last time, I just won't be able to live with myself.
I don't know which is sadder: that Steve Jobs was this shallow, hollow person who valued money more than people, or that it says volumes about our country that so many people worshipped him.
Re:Someone trusted Starck? by bill_mcgonigle · 2012-12-24 06:37 · Score: 1

She should counter-sue, $6 million even sounds too much for a design.
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Re:holy science fail batman! by drkim · 2012-12-24 07:54 · Score: 1

Actually what it shows that you have never watched Futurama.
Is that what you church endorses as an alternative to scientific education?...
You don't understand. Futurama is your core scientific education.
School is just an alternative to that.
call the hackers... by Patent+Lover · 2012-12-24 08:35 · Score: 1

How long 'til that thing's jailbroken?
Do I have to pilot it... by Anarchduke · 2012-12-24 10:12 · Score: 1

Using Apple Maps?

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Re:Slashdot as timely as ever by SternisheFan · 2012-12-24 15:40 · Score: 1

TheVerge reports monies have been exchanged, it's over Johnny... http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/24/3801146/steve-jobs-yacht-freed-after-payment-dispute-philippe-starck-resolved
Perhaps by TuxWithoutPants · 2012-12-25 13:36 · Score: 1

it should stay impounded, would be dangerous if someone tried to use Apple map at sea.