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Local Emergency Alert System Hacked, Warns Dead Rising From Graves

First time accepted submitter Rawlsian writes "Great Falls, Montana, television station KRTC issued a denial of an Emergency Alert System report that 'dead bodies are rising from their graves.' The denial surmises that 'someone apparently hacked into the Emergency Alert System...This message did not originate from KRTV, and there is no emergency.'"

235 comments

  1. Hurry by puddingebola · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gotta get to the shopping mall. Stop at the sporting goods store and pick up some weapons and ammo. The zombies will feast on the easier targets for 30 days or so.

    1. Re:Hurry by rubycodez · · Score: 3, Insightful

      forget that 30 day urban legend. it's whether or not the Tall Man is still around. and give priority to shooting down flying chrome balls over zombies.

      "You think when you die, you go to heaven.......... You come to us! " -- the Tall Man

    2. Re:Hurry by RevSpaminator · · Score: 3

      Time to get out the chainsaw and the sawed off shotgun!

    3. Re:Hurry by Cryacin · · Score: 2

      And they said I was crazy preparing my zombie apocalypse survival kit.

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      Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
    4. Re:Hurry by fizzer06 · · Score: 3, Informative

      All the stores are back-orderd on ammo.

    5. Re:Hurry by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Informative

      And they said I was crazy preparing my zombie apocalypse survival kit.

      Hardly. Even the top levels of the US government recommend being prepared for a Zombie Apocalypse. I mean, this is the same group of folks that wants you to get a flu shot.

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    6. Re:Hurry by egamma · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even the top levels of the US government recommend being prepared for a Zombie Apocalypse. I mean, this is the same group of folks that wants you to get a flu shot.

      And just where do you think zombies come from, hmm? You don't really think its from hell being full now, do you?

    7. Re:Hurry by RubberDogBone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you BEEN to gun store lately? There's few firearms available and damn near zero ammo, especially in common sizes like 9mm. All you will find are bare shelves -and if you do find some ammo, you better buy it. Don't even stop to look at the prices.

      About the only ammo easily in stock is shotgun shells and slugs. Everything else is gone the moment it hits the shelves. It's been this way since 2008, had gotten better but went to hell in a handbasket after Sandy Hook.

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      Sig for hire.
    8. Re:Hurry by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shop smart... shop S-Mart!

    9. Re:Hurry by formfeed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even the top levels of the US government recommend being prepared for a Zombie Apocalypse. I mean, this is the same group of folks that wants you to get a flu shot.

      And just where do you think zombies come from, hmm? You don't really think its from hell being full now, do you?

      Cadavers Destroying Civilization ?

    10. Re:Hurry by Nadaka · · Score: 1, Interesting

      yup. Last time I looked, I could only get 300 win mag. And I don't have any guns that take that.

      22LR and 5.56 are IMPOSSIBLE to find, and my personal stockpile is only 300 rounds for each of my rifles and barely over a hundred total for my pistols.

      It doesn't help any I don't like spending time around the conservatives who usually frequent gun shops.

    11. Re:Hurry by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      Guns are available if you are willing to pay a premium (retardedly so for AR or AK pattern rifles). Ammo though is horrifically hard to find unless you happen to have a gun in every conceivable caliber.

    12. Re:Hurry by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      Hail to the king, baby.

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      Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
    13. Re:Hurry by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Not sure where you live, but even in MD, ammo has been trivially available from at least 2010 until shortly after Sandy Hook. And having just come back from South Carolina I can say, while the shelves aren't brimming, a bit of shopping around got my gf and I more than a bit of ammo.

      Yeah, still hardly any 5.56 though :(

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      Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
    14. Re:Hurry by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      And just where do you think zombies come from, hmm? You don't really think its from hell being full now, do you?

      Vaccine-laced pot? Wait until they run out of munchies food...

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    15. Re:Hurry by azalin · · Score: 2

      Klaatu... verata... n... Necktie. Nectar. Nickel. Noodle

    16. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll sell you all the .22lr and 5.56 you want... 50cents a round for .22lr and $2 a round for 5.56

    17. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's actually quite trivial to hack into the EAS. I'm surprised it hasn't been done more frequently!

    18. Re:Hurry by r33per · · Score: 2
      OK. Let's take a moment to go over the Ground Rules:

      1. Cardio

      2. The Double Tap

      3. Beware of Bathrooms

      4. Seatbelts

      And find a kick-ass partner ASAP.

      Good night and good luck, Godspeed to you all...

    19. Re:Hurry by zwei2stein · · Score: 2

      While this is just a joke, one thing is dead wrong:

      In any case of big emergency, you should not head to common stores or malls, but to big warehouses that are usually outside towns/cities.

      Shopping malls have low supplies and require to be restocked fairly frequenctly. Most of food is low duration or requires refrigeration and you will run out of anything that can be reliably stored in few weeks (depending on amount of people who get same idea - and that amount is going to be very high).

      Big warehouses will have supplies that can last you years, fairly defensibe position and loading ports for moving food to location that is even more defensible. And only people who know something about logistic of food will be going there.

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      -- Technology for the sake of technology is as pathetic as eschewing technology because it's technology.
    20. Re:Hurry by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Hooray for .30-06, the government will still mail it to you at about .50/round if you're OK with 152 grain mil-spec surplus. Which, you know, I am.

      Check out gun-deals or similar, there's still lots of ammo out there. It's not on shelves, but who pays retail for ammo anyway? That's an idiot move if you need more than one small box.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    21. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why make it political? You're confusing Conservatives with people who like guns.

      AC

    22. Re:Hurry by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      I think it's kind of funny, people are so panicked. I bought in bulk (usually 1000 rounds per order) well before the consumer induced shortages started. Now I have a few thousand rounds here, and no zombies to kill.

      I've been watching for supplies to be available again. They're all still saying backordered, and people are paying ridiculous prices for any little bit that does become available. I'm only now starting to let some of mine go for just over cost, which is way below market value.

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      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    23. Re:Hurry by buxomspacefish · · Score: 1

      Yeah - good luck getting ammo or weapons right now - everywhere I go it's tough to find either.

    24. Re:Hurry by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      People easily forget that one issue doesn't fully define a political leaning, and assume that because you agree on one issue, you agree on all. It's very annoying.

      BTW, my wife and I are liberals and there is a gun in our home as we both believe there should be. I feel Nadaka's pain.

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    25. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hooray for .30-06, the government will still mail it to you at about .50/round if you're OK with 152 grain mil-spec surplus. Which, you know, I am.

      Not bad. Got a link for that?

    26. Re:Hurry by cgfsd · · Score: 1

      Have you been to a sporting goods store lately? With Obama's talking about banning guns, the shelves are picked clean. To hell with the gun store, raid the doomsday people's gun collection!

    27. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About the only ammo easily in stock is shotgun shells and slugs. Everything else is gone the moment it hits the shelves.

      Ammo and gun shortages suck, and I am by no means a gun expert or an "operator", but if I could only have one gun to defend myself and my loved ones in an emergency, it would have to be a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun. The 12 gauge is devastating, and the 20 gauge allows faster follow-up shots. Tough call, amirite? :P

    28. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hooray for .30-06, the government will still mail it to you at about .50/round if you're OK with 152 grain mil-spec surplus. Which, you know, I am.

      Not bad. Got a link for that?

      If he told the rest of us, he wouldn't be able to look down his nose at us ignorant plebs!

    29. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm only now starting to let some of mine go for just over cost, which is way below market value.

      Why are you selling it? You should just hold on to it. The price of ammo has always risen and it doesn't go bad.

    30. Re:Hurry by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      No, moderators, no. Not "informative" - stupid. As in "whoosh". The CDC does not actually believe in a zombie threat. They do, however, believe in the threat of various, very real, viral contagions. You know. Like the flu?

    31. Re:Hurry by Dwarfgoat · · Score: 1

      Actually, shotgun shells are also nowhere to be found. At least here in Northern VA, the Dick's Sporting Goods stores around me used to always have several pallets of 12-gauge target load available. Ever since Sandy Hook, there have been giant bare spots on the floor where the cases of shells used to be. When they do have any shells, you're limited to six boxes. Wal-Mart restricts buyers to two boxes. This has significantly impacted my favorite past-time, skeet and trap shooting (which is especially frustrating because we've had such a mild winter I could have been out there a lot more weekends than the shortage has allowed).

      On an average Saturday, my friends and I would easily burn through 500-600 shells in a couple hours. I'd use my reloading press (recently purchased because at the rate I was using shells, it's more economical to make/reload my own), but good luck finding any primers! The weird thing is, it seems people are hoarding all the clays, too...it's getting hard to find those around here as well!

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    32. Re:Hurry by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      1. Someone at the CDC has a sense of humor
      2. Many of your zombie preparations are actually useful for other disasters.

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    33. Re:Hurry by Nadaka · · Score: 0

      Not really. I like guns, and I am as anti conservative as you can imagine. But I am a very tiny minority here. A lot of these people can't say 2 sentences in a row without saying "NOBAMA", "COMMUNIST-IN-CHIEF", or something about the new world order coming to confiscate their bibles with black helicopters.

    34. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Close enough for me.

    35. Re:Hurry by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Now I have a few thousand rounds here, and no zombies to kill.

      Gosh, who'd have thought?

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    36. Re:Hurry by cusco · · Score: 1

      In the Pacific Northwest the price for 16 gauge shells has more than doubled, and .30-.30 ammunition has quadrupled. If I still hunted regularly the way I used to I would be pissed.

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      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
    37. Re:Hurry by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Not bad. Got a link for that?

      ODCMP

      You do have to be a member of a qualifying gun club in order to buy from the CMP. So you join The GCA and they send you some M1-related newsletters for a while. That adds a bit to the cost, but on the other hand it gets you a pretty good deal on an M1...

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    38. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a trick. Get an axe.

    39. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good...bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    40. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for /. readers now. Thanks for ruining my secret. I mean heck there is a term for having slashdotters flood your website because there are so many of us. Granted many of us will be taken because we're too busy playing CoD or Dota or Dungeon Defenders and will run out of Mt Dew.

    41. Re:Hurry by Osiris+Ani · · Score: 1

      They do, however, believe in the threat of various, very real, viral contagions. You know. Like the flu?

      *yawn*

    42. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously then, the gun nuts are right in having a gun in every caliber! ;)

    43. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We live in Montana. Plenty of guns, plenty of ammo. No bare shelves. Same for Wyoming and the Dakotas, no shortages out here at all. People in these parts don't wait until the last minute to stock up, so there aren't any sudden rushes on the stores. If anything, there are more guns available, because everyone with a spare weapon they've been thinking about selling is taking advantage of the higher demand and putting them on the market.

      Hell, just had a gun show over in Billings this weekend....
      http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/crowds-flock-to-weekend-gun-show/article_45ed99fe-86de-5890-9a17-0823fe33a230.html

      And if you're really that worried about it, go get a reloading kit and learn how to make your own loads.

    44. Re:Hurry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just how does a weapon do any good against something that is already dead? Outside of maybe a shot gun to blow off body parts, you cannot kill the already undead.

    45. Re:Hurry by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Not really. I like guns, and I am as anti conservative as you can imagine. But I am a very tiny minority here.

      Not as tiny as you might think. Ask around, you might be surprised by what you hear (though it obviously depends on where you are geographically).

    46. Re:Hurry by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      You never know. Some zombies can pass for humans very convincingly. ~

    47. Re:Hurry by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Canonical zombies are easily killed by headshots.

      (hence why you should stock up on 22LR!)

    48. Re:Hurry by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      After living in the US for 2 years, I had since become convinced that the zombies won't last in this country for 30 days. You'll have gun-toting rednecks converge from all the red states for a fun safari, complemented by local ZS teams, and they'll all run out of targets by the end of the second week or so. ~

    49. Re:Hurry by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I'm just selling to personal acquaintances who got AR15's, and now can't find ammo. I'll stock up again when the price comes down. These price swings happen all the time. Someone threatens to take all our guns, people stock up at premium prices. The threat disappears and everyone forgets, and I stock up.

          I got my AR-15, just like I wanted, for under $1k. MSRP from the manufacturer is now $1.5k.People are paying $2k to $3k for the same thing.

          I thought about stocking up on AR-15s, but I didn't think the market would swing up so soon. I could have doubled my money. Then again, it would make me a gray market arms dealer, which I'm not really up for. If the BATF ever knocks on my door, it'd better be to ask for directions to somewhere else. :)

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    50. Re:Hurry by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I am disappointed. My real intention was buying them up, so I'd always have ammo for the shooting range. It's a lot cheaper to buy in bulk once every few years, than buying it at the range. That, and I prefer to load up the magazines at home, rather than wasting time at the range doing it.

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      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    51. Re:Hurry by ender89 · · Score: 1

      I knew a guy who insisted that this was proof that zombies were real. He also claimed to have "easily hacked into the FBI and read all the sensitive emails", and called me an idiot for believing the cover that the zombie readiness push was just taking advantage of pop culture to encourage the creation of a general readiness kit. As you can imagine, I've always thought he was a bit of an idiot. .... But boy is there egg on my face now. The Zombies are coming!

  2. Let me guess... by eksith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those systems that were never meant to go on the internet were somehow available on the internet? It's too bad some broadcast stations don't know when to air-gap

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    1. Re:Let me guess... by JJJJust · · Score: 5, Informative

      If it was a Common Alerting Protocol-enabled system, it was entirely designed to be on the internet.

    2. Re:Let me guess... by ljw1004 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You want to air-gap this system??!

      so that when an emergency makes it impossible to travel by road, then someone has to travel by road to key in an alert about it?

    3. Re:Let me guess... by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      so that when an emergency makes it impossible to travel by road, then someone has to travel by road to key in an alert about it?

      I dunno about other states, but I assume they are the same as here. We have a statewide network of stations who listen (via radio) to other stations to get their alert notifications. There are portal stations that get out-of-state alerts.

      I think it was done this way to avoid issues of network (internet) outages preventing notices from going out. Of course, the last major test was an utter fail -- except in the eyes of those who think that finding out that the system was a failure at actually notifying anyone of anything is a "successful test result". A test that is successful in showing that a system is a complete failure means the system still failed miserably.

    4. Re:Let me guess... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Informative

      You don't need to be on the internet to have a "hack".

      i.e. The road sign hack was actually funny the first time. :-)
      https://www.google.com/search?q=l4d+road+sign+zombie+hack&tbm=isch

    5. Re:Let me guess... by eksith · · Score: 1

      Ha! Priceless!

      See, this is further proof, if there's an input of any sort, it needs be secured. Either by lock and key or through proper admin filtering (that's not taking into account social engineering, but I don't think they've come up with filtering for human thought yet... unless TV counts).

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    6. Re:Let me guess... by eksith · · Score: 1

      If there's an emergency, I would sure hope there's a method to access it that doesn't involve a trudge through snow n' stuff, but at the same time, there ought to be someone on site if it's really important. If JJJJust is right and this is a Common Alerting Protocol system, then it should have been secured better. We just don't know what the system in question was that allowed access into the broadcast yet.

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      If computers were people, I'd be a misanthrope.
    7. Re:Let me guess... by HiThere · · Score: 2

      IIRC, there was a story about a "Zombie Apocalapse" test message that was to be used on that net. I think the idea was supposed to be that it was so clearly a test message, that nobody would think it anything else.

      This sounds like through some kind of glitch that message actually got released. There was probably no hacking involved.

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    8. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Security isn't their main concern, because there are only two risks with hacking. The first is mischief like we see here, which isn't a big deal. The second is a DOS, which requires someone to have prior knowledge of a disaster and be sociopathic enough to disrupt the warning system. The chance of both conditions being true is negligible. Perhaps a terrorist would be interested, but I'm not quite sure how they could use it to their advantage.

    9. Re:Let me guess... by slimjim8094 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Maybe that's what happened here. It's by no means difficult (though highly, highly illegal) to point a few-dozen watt transmitter at the receiving antenna with a highly directional antenna and spoof the EAS message from whatever station it listens to for alerts.

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    10. Re:Let me guess... by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's by no means difficult (though highly, highly illegal) to point a few-dozen watt transmitter at the receiving antenna with a highly directional antenna

      Its a hell of a lot simpler just to get really close and use a "low" power omni. If "they've" got 1e4 times the power but you're 1e6 times closer, you do the math for who wins the FM capture effect battle. Rather like a cheap mp3 transmitter can override a 50 kilowatt broadcast transmitter, well, for 10 feet or so. You can imagine the range a 50 watt mobile has vs a 1000 watt NOAA/NWS transmitter. This is in the news fairly often. Most commonly someone transmits over the NOAA weather radio freqs this way using some old VHF-hiband mobiles (now there's a well thats running dry...) reprogrammed.

      Anybody who's ever written a SAME code decoder for weather radios or a SDR, or ever seriously considered it anyway, would not be very challenged by writing a SAME code encoder, in fact probably had to write one first, to test their decoder.

      I enjoy the comedic stories I read in the newspaper about this. Those are real hacks. Like announcing a blizzard in Florida in the summer, heat warning in the frozen north during the winter. If I were still an impulsive teen I'd probably be doing that kind of thing.

      However, the people who transmit sorta-plausible stuff intended to scare people are just jackasses. There's a fox news "joke" in there somewhere, or maybe not really a joke.

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    11. Re:Let me guess... by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      That doesn't make much sense. Why wouldn't a test message just say "this is a test message" like all the other emergency alert test messages do?

    12. Re:Let me guess... by silanea · · Score: 1

      Security isn't their main concern, because there are only two risks with hacking. The first is mischief like we see here, which isn't a big deal. [...]

      I take it you have not seen Die Hard 3. Imagine for a second they had put out a message saying that a bomb had been hidden in an unspecified public building and that it would detonate in one hour. Mischief, huh? Mass panic at the push of a button.

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    13. Re:Let me guess... by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      Is it simpler? Sure, if you're within 50-100 feet you're probably alright with a HT omni and low power, but there's a good chance you'll find some kind of fence in the way - not to mention, the RX antenna is probably on some kind of mast, and maybe even directional itself. Just a yagi would probably get you where you needed to be, but 25-50w transmitters aren't exactly hard to make (or buy and hack) either and should give you plenty of field strength at the antenna from a couple hundred feet or further . No B&E needed, which is frankly the way you'd be caught.

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    14. Re:Let me guess... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Agreed that security (or lack of it) is an issue. What makes security a difficult problem to "solve" is trying to balance two extremes:

      convenience/freedom < - - - > authentication/authority

      Too much freedom and you lack security. Too much security and you make it a PITA to actually get anything done!

      That axis is related to these two extremes:

      authority < - - - > accountability

      The often quoted mis-interpreted* "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" would lead us believe that Freedom should be valued over Security. There are cases where it can be argued for one or the other.

      As a relatively new country we're still trying to figure out the right balance (as it swings from one extreme to the other extreme) especially with respect to Social Engineering and "White" Hats vs Gray Hats.

      * See for details: http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/07/what-ben-franklin-really-said/

  3. find him, prosecute him by Gabrill · · Score: 0

    The hacker needs his computer inventory confiscated and busted down to flip phone tech. This is no different than joyriding the fire trucks. The system is there for emergencies, and crap like this devalues it's emergency status.

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    1. Re:find him, prosecute him by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, he did a community service by demonstrating the failure without starting a panic over a real possible event. No one should have believed it.. At least not anyone with half a BRAAAAAAAAAAIINSS!!!!

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    2. Re:find him, prosecute him by Hsien-Ko · · Score: 0

      Indeed

    3. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      find him, hire him

      FTFY

    4. Re:find him, prosecute him by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the contrary.

      This is an obvious prank, and is unlikely to cause any harm, except to embarrass those who ought to be embarrassed. It would have been much more harmful to send an alert about a more believable disaster. Can you imagine the panic if the hoax had been about rising floodwater, or an incoming storm or hurricane?

      This hack has the benefit of exposing a weakness before it could be maliciously exploited, in probably the only way that guarantees action will be taken. As we've seen, being a good white-hat and reporting the potential security is likely to result in you being prosecuted, and the fault being swept under the carpet.

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    5. Re:find him, prosecute him by Nidi62 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who the hell on this site supported Adam Lanza?

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    6. Re:find him, prosecute him by noobermin · · Score: 1

      It didn't end in disaster, but it really could have been worse. Some people rely on warning systems like this...think of, for example, tornado warning systems.
      I'll admit, I laughed, and I do agree; it pointed out a weakness in the system that shouldn't have been there. Still, the right thing to do is to stop the culture of encouraging grey hat behavior by rewarding people who find weaknesses...rather than simply condoning them.

    7. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This hack has the benefit of exposing a weakness before it could be maliciously exploited, in probably the only way that guarantees action will be taken.

      Sooo..Thanks China?

    8. Re:find him, prosecute him by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not cause any harm? It won't be so funny when the dead start rising from the grave and no one believes it because this guy cried wolf already! Thousands of people will disregard the warning and subsequently get their brains eaten! It won't seem so fun then!

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    9. Re:find him, prosecute him by Capsaicin · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Who the hell on this site supported Adam Lanza?

      Or Chris Dorner for that matter? You know if I didn't know better I'd suspect that AC was trying the cheap propaganda trick of linking the names Aaron Swartz, Julian Assange and Bradley Manning, (who, whether we agree with of their actions or not, we ought to recognise as men of high ideals), with those of crazy mass murderers?! But no, my friend AC would never do that kind of thing.

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    10. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need your keyboard confiscated and issued a new one without an apostrophe key since obviously the mind-boggling concept that it's means it is is beyond you.

    11. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nah, he did a community service by demonstrating the failure without starting a panic over a real possible event. No one should have believed it.

      How do you know it isn't real. Maybe the government ordered them to issue these denials to stop public disorder spreading in the wake of the Rapture? Huh?

      Repent now sinner! Another hour and it may be too late.

    12. Re:find him, prosecute him by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Obviously someone with half a brain should have believed it. Who else ate the missing half?

    13. Re:find him, prosecute him by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is an obvious prank, and is unlikely to cause any harm, except to embarrass those who ought to be embarrassed.

      I doubt that. If you are referring to the local officials who implemented the system or maintain it, then no, they have nothing to be embarrassed about. They didn't design the system, they just installed what was compatible with everyone else. Those who designed the system will probably not be overly embarrassed, either.

      I doubt you're referring to the prankster, who certainly won't be embarrassed at all, even though such public displays should be embarrassing to him. It's like finding a mailing list and sending a bunch of spam to it to prove how insecure it is; annoying everyone on the list who can do nothing about it and really changing nothing.

      The only likely result of this will be a confirmation in the minds of the public that hackers are nutcases who need to be put in jail for doing stupid things, not a sudden realization that hackers are here to save us from our mistakes.

    14. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the tax payer money is so better spent on child proofing things.

      Just think of how many billions of tax payers $$$$ are wasted each year simply because some one wants to be a wanker.

      And then they will create yet more laws which removes even more rights we used to have simply because someone wanted to be a wanker.

    15. Re:find him, prosecute him by FranklinWebber · · Score: 1

      >This is an obvious prank, and is unlikely to cause any harm...

      Isn't that just what CBS executives said before airing War of the Worlds?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(radio)

    16. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be grateful it wasn't a hacker on the payroll of the Chinese government. You wouldn't even know the system could be hacked until the moment Chinese paratroopers started dropping from the sky. You'd be sitting in your shelter waiting for the hurricane to pass and the Chinese would only need to put a padlock on the doors and walk away. Thanks to this prankster the issue will be patched, which probably wouldn't happen if the hacker openly approached the KRTV. I've seen it many times: "Really? A vulnerability? I our system!? Well then we better fix it right away! Now go home and play some console games and let the grown-ups do their job... that is, after we've had our morning coffee and cigarettes... for the next 6 months... after which we'll just forget about the whole thing"

    17. Re:find him, prosecute him by TWX · · Score: 2

      If Debbie Harry is out dropping rhymes again then the world really is coming to an end...

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      Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
    18. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As we've seen, being a good white-hat and reporting the potential security is likely to result in you being prosecuted, and the fault being swept under the carpet.

      I tried that. I reported to a school that they put social security number together with full name, address etc on a html page, made it accessible without logging in and they transferred it without any encryption. It looked it they made a page for each student and then emailed the student in question the URL to their "personal page". I ended up talking to some lady, who went "only criminals would detect such flaws. You must be a hacker. I'm calling the police right away". They didn't dare to keep the page up when I kept a cool head and said I would report it for privacy violation if they didn't remove it.

      Two mysteries remains though:
      1: why send a mail with a personal link to a page containing only stuff, which could be written in the mail
      2: why send out "your daughter's name is.. and is born on ... and lives...". I kind of knew that even before they decided to tell me.

      Oh and in case you wonder. Their "security" is that the personal URL contained a hash value. Nobody would be able to guess a hash value and get info on a stranger, right?

    19. Re:find him, prosecute him by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, the CDC doesn't run zombie apocalypse drills for no reason

    20. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my friend AC would never do that kind of thing.

      Thanks, bro. Good to know you have my back.

    21. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahaha you've obviously never signed up for one of these, I'm on the Montgomery County and the College Park Maryland alert things. You get a bagillion of these a day about tiny little things that don't concern you.

    22. Re:find him, prosecute him by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Later studies suggested the panic was less widespread than newspapers had indicated at the time. During this period, many newspaper publishers were concerned that radio, a new medium, would render them obsolete. In that time of yellow journalism, print journalists took the opportunity to suggest that radio was dangerous by embellishing the story of the panic that ensued

      The parallels almost write themselves...

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      Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
    23. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nobody would be able to guess a hash value and get info on a stranger, right?

      Actually, yeah. That's pretty much the exact function of a properly constructed cryptographic hash function.

    24. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed next time I see an emergency alert that Z-Day is upon us I am totally going to ignore it because I have been desensitized.

    25. Re:find him, prosecute him by Enderandrew · · Score: 0, Troll

      Assange is charged with rape and his best friend wrote a tell-all book that is pretty damning. He was also ripped by Amnesty International for endangering innocent volunteers. People close to him said he was motivated purely by money.

      Yep, Assange we can recognize as a man of high ideals just because he criticized people we don't like.

      Why is it that no one is praising groups like Amnesty International who also expose government corruption? They literally champion for human rights, get involved, operate as a non-profit, and enact positive change in the world without breaking laws?

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    26. Re:find him, prosecute him by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      cry more you bitch.. There are too many wannabe insecure tyrants like yourself in this society who are cheering on the big ones.. It was a harmless prank that deserves a slap on the wrist at best. It doesn't even sound like it was a denial of service, nor was the context of the message believable by any stretch.

      Get a grip.

    27. Re:find him, prosecute him by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Informative

      All they would have had to do was walk a little bit faster!

    28. Re:find him, prosecute him by westlake · · Score: 1

      This is an obvious prank, and is unlikely to cause any harm, except to embarrass those who ought to be embarrassed.

      No one is cutting the hacker any slack anymore,

      Prankster. White Hat, Black Hat, No one gives a damn about his motives, No one shares his sense of humor

      Break into a system meant for emergency use only and the hammer will come down.

    29. Re:find him, prosecute him by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 0

      Aaron Swartz, Julian Assange and Bradley Manning, (who, whether we agree with of their actions or not, we ought to recognise as men of high ideals),

      Well, one out of three, anyway.

      --
      If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
    30. Re:find him, prosecute him by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Break into a system meant for emergency use only and the hammer will come down.

      Fine. But it should come down equally as hard, if not more so, on those who accepted public money to build a secure system and failed to do so. Anything else is scapegoating.

      --
      Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
    31. Re:find him, prosecute him by Capsaicin · · Score: 0

      Assange is charged with rape

      That's news to me.

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      Better to be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident a security. --Edmund Burke
    32. Re:find him, prosecute him by Capsaicin · · Score: 1

      Well, one out of three, anyway.

      Lemme guess ... Bradley?

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      Better to be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident a security. --Edmund Burke
    33. Re:find him, prosecute him by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority

      Assange fled Sweden rather than defend himself against the charges.

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    34. Re:find him, prosecute him by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      well what we do now is imprison them/ruin their careers, thus when they get out of jail after 20 years, the only thing left is to become a paid black hat for hire. ex-con murderers have an easier time of it..

      gotta love laws written by ivy league lawyers who were ex popular-jocks in highschool.

    35. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Little do you know. This was done with a flip phone and a whistle.

    36. Re:find him, prosecute him by dfn5 · · Score: 1

      This is an obvious prank, and is unlikely to cause any harm, except to embarrass those who ought to be embarrassed. It would have been much more harmful to send an alert about a more believable disaster.

      Such as an invasion from Mars?

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      -- Thou hast strayed far from the path of the Avatar.
    37. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah he's charged with rape because the US government decided to get sweden pay a few skanks to 'come forward.' It's been done before..

    38. Re:find him, prosecute him by Capsaicin · · Score: 4, Informative

      I find nothing in that citation to indicate that Assange has been charged with any offence. On the contrary and to quote directly: "Assange has not yet been formally charged with any offence."

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      Better to be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident a security. --Edmund Burke
    39. Re:find him, prosecute him by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      But it should come down equally as hard, if not more so, on those who accepted public money to build a secure system

      First you need to know if that is what they were paid to do or not. What was the intended level of security and did they meet that requirement? "Oh noes, a hacker broke in and made a fake announcement!" Was preventing that part of the original requirements? Easy to see in 20/20 hindsight.

      And second, the people who accepted the money to build the system locally didn't design it or generate the requirements. They got money to buy something that worked with everything else being used. They could have refused to buy anything that wasn't secured better than everything else, but then they'd not be getting any alerts from anyone because their system would not be interoperable.

    40. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But when the media does it, it's all fun and games right?
      http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/history/news-invasion-mars-one-greatest-radio-pranks-history

    41. Re:find him, prosecute him by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      First you need to know if that is what they were paid to do or not. What was the intended level of security and did they meet that requirement? "Oh noes, a hacker broke in and made a fake announcement!" Was preventing that part of the original requirements?

      Then the person who wrote the requirements should get hit with the hammer. An attacker compromised your system - sometime, somewhere, someone dropped the ball.

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      Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
    42. Re:find him, prosecute him by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      Somehow I doubt the person who implemented it knows what 'cryptographic' means.

    43. Re:find him, prosecute him by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Here it is folks, proof positive that methamphetamine is bad for you.

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    44. Re:find him, prosecute him by Faluzeer · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority

      Assange fled Sweden rather than defend himself against the charges.

      Hmmm

      Except that is not correct, he did not flee, he left Sweden legally. It was only after he had left Sweden that the new prosecutor issued a new arrest warrant.

    45. Re:find him, prosecute him by Eskarel · · Score: 2

      Being a good guy white-hat doesn't get you arrested. Not realizing the difference between telling someone "Hey your door is open" from the outside of their house and saying "Hey your door is open from in someone's bedroom" is what gets you arrested. Well that and the kind of self righteous attitude that makes "white hats" believe that if a vulnerability isn't fixed within a day of them having reported it they have the right to take down the system or reveal said vulnerability to the world. In other words, the fact that I have forgotten to lock my door doesn't give you the right to enter my house and if you do so, even to tell me that I've forgotten to lock my door you aren't a "good guy", not even if you have some of your stuff in my house.

    46. Re:find him, prosecute him by PPH · · Score: 1

      Our government must maintain their monopoly on frightening the public and driving them into a mindless panic.

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      Have gnu, will travel.
    47. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would have been much more harmful to send an alert about a more believable disaster. Can you imagine the panic if the hoax had been about rising floodwater, or an incoming storm or hurricane?

      Panic? Not really. Everyone in the flood plain just goes to higher ground, and will be rather annoyed upon learning it was a false alarm. A hurricane warning in Montana would raise a few eyebrows, but shouldn't incite a public panic. Storms, I wouldn't really consider worthy of a warning, but people would just stay inside.

      Now, perhaps my experience is different having lived in a rural area with occasional extreme weather and weekly power outages. I couldn't imagine someone being injured by acting upon any conceivable warning, because most adults have learned to not injure themselves by staying inside or driving away from their home. If city dwellers are prone to panicking and crushing people, then a) your population density is far too high, and b) that's natural selection and inevitable (i.e. it was going to happen on the next alert, real or not).

    48. Re:find him, prosecute him by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Agreed. The zombies thing is so obvious as to be wallowing in complete and utter lameness. I recommend caning, BTW.

      OTOH, if he'd come up with something a bit more original and suited to the season... say, an invasion of Frost Giants...

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      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    49. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nevermind, just assumed this was the text message alert thing that a lot of areas have. I guess it was actually on TV and stuff.

    50. Re:find him, prosecute him by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 1

      This is no different than joyriding the fire trucks. The system is there for emergencies, and crap like this devalues it's emergency status.

      I actually agree with you, but unfortunately my inner Responsible Adult who deplores this act for exactly the reasons you cite is having a loud argument right now with my inner child who is laughing his head off. I'm still not sure who is winning.

    51. Re:find him, prosecute him by prasadsurve · · Score: 1

      except to embarrass those who ought to be embarrassed.

      I think he was referring to people who "Got to the shopping mall after stopping at the sporting goods store to pick up some weapons and ammo".

    52. Re:find him, prosecute him by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Funny

      He should have reported that Dihydrogen Monoxide has been detected in the city's water system. :-D

      For the uninitiated (see http://dhmo.org/

              Dihydrogen monoxide:

                      is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
                      contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
                      may cause severe burns.
                      is fatal if inhaled.
                      contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
                      accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
                      may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
                      has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

              Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

                      as an industrial solvent and coolant.
                      in nuclear power plants.
                      in the production of Styrofoam.
                      as a fire retardant.
                      in many forms of cruel animal research.
                      in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
                      as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

    53. Re:find him, prosecute him by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Even if it was wrong it was at least pretty obvious that it wasn't a real emergency. No need to bust people like that hard, it was highlighting a problem in the system that could have been abused in a lot worse manner.

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      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
    54. Re:find him, prosecute him by miroku000 · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority

      Assange fled Sweden rather than defend himself against the charges.

      Nonsense. There are no charges. They cannot file charges against him without first interviewing him, which is something that the prosecutors have repeatedly refused to do. I am a bit curious why they want to extradite him without interviewing him first while he is abroad. He has repeatedly tried to get the prosecutors/police to interview him while he is abroad. But, they are specifically are going out of their way to avoid interviewing him (most likely so they can argue that they must extradite him in order to complete their investigation.) It seems quite likely that they feel that once they have interviewed him, they will not have a sufficient basis to press charges against him. I mean, if they felt confident that once they had interviewed him, they would be able to press charges, then they should just do that and file charges and the whole process of extraditing him would have been greatly simplified.

    55. Re:find him, prosecute him by mrbester · · Score: 1

      But what's to be done when the man from Mars stops eating cars and eating bars and now he only eats guitars (get up)? He already shot you dead and ate your head after all.

      --
      "Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
    56. Re:find him, prosecute him by Capsaicin · · Score: 1

      Except that is not correct, he did not flee

      Nor is he charged; Nor if he were to be charged would definitely be with 'rape' (sexual misconduct seems more likely); nor were he charged would we be entitled to presume anything other than his innocence; nor were we to examine the publicly known facts that led to the warrant being issued would I (here YMMV) be led to doubt that innocence; nor was that expose (if I have the same book in mind) written by his "best friend"; nor is the accusation that he is "motivated purely by money" anything other than absurd; nor is his penchant for promiscuous relationships with members of the opposite sex pertinent as to his motivations in running Wikileaks, as it happens. And surely there is no one so innocent as seriously to believe that if the two women he slept with in the same week had not confided this fact in each other none of this would now be of any concern to anyone. Hell hath no fury.

      In favour of OP it can at least be said that in going out of his way to defame someone he has been gentlemanly enough to do so in a way that will not enable him to hide, like a coward, behind any 'truth' based defence.

      Oddly enough, I'm conservative enough to believe that some level of state secrecy, problematic as it is, is a necessity even in a democracy. I'm not 100% behind what either Assange does (nor 100% against it). I shall, however, scurry to his defence when people, rather addressing the substantive issue of state secrecy, seek to attack his stance and the activities of Wikileaks on the entirely irrelevant basis of his alleged sexual misconduct.

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      Better to be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident a security. --Edmund Burke
    57. Re:find him, prosecute him by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      No, of course it won't be funny when the dead start rising from their graves.

      Now, about a week or two in, when there are shamblers and the general panic will be replaced with 'most of us are undead or eaten'? The zombie victim-bating and misc. mutilation games will be INSANELY funny.

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    58. Re:find him, prosecute him by azalin · · Score: 1

      So there was a security issue and it was demonstrated to the public. Now it has to be fixed. Imagine for a second what would have happened if someone with bad intentions used the hole to spread panic or divert help away from a real event. It might be a bit silly, but we are all better of if systems like these get tested once in a while.

    59. Re:find him, prosecute him by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      I had a discussion with three or four people who insisted on defending Chris Dorner, mostly with little information (at least two of them thought he was fired by the LAPD within the last year).

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      The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
    60. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the murderers get to play in the NFL

    61. Re:find him, prosecute him by westlake · · Score: 1

      Fine. But it should come down equally as hard, if not more so, on those who accepted public money to build a secure system and failed to do so.

      That would be the techies who designed and maintained the system, am I right?

      This is the part where you will find the geek whistling "Don't look at me" as he tries to fast-fade out of the picture.

      Anything else is scapegoating.

      The scapegoat is forced to accept responsibility for the sins of others. The hacker is jailed for his crimes. There is a difference and it is a difference that matters.

    62. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a properly constructed cryptographic hash function.

      I don't think the word "properly" and that server belongs in the same sentence. For all we know, the server is so simple that it even fails to detect brute force URL guessing. That would make a script kiddie able to harvest info using a simple 10 line script. Sure it's inefficient and may need a bit of luck, but possible to do with very little knowledge. I wouldn't even begin to imagine security (or lack hereof) against experienced hackers when it fails something this basic.

    63. Re:find him, prosecute him by Grave · · Score: 1

      Billions of taxpayer dollars are wasted because Congress is full of wankers.

    64. Re:find him, prosecute him by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      You seem to hold the common misperception that there is perfect security. There isn't. At any price. When you're building a system, you want it to be perfectly reliable, perfectly secure, perfectly easy to use, etc. You can't have that. You also want it to cost as close to zero as possible. You nearly always can't have that. LIke it or not, you settle on a system that costs more than you want, is reliable enough, secure enough, easy enough to use, etc, where "enough" is sometimes not as good as you really want, but as good as you can get with the resources you have.

      So no, the fact that an attacker compromised a system doesn't always mean someone dropped the ball. Sometimes it does, but not always and not necessarily.

    65. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow I doubt the person who implemented it had, wanted or knew how to create their own hashing algorithm anyway.

    66. Re:find him, prosecute him by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Do you have any idea what effect this would have on your average /. reader?

    67. Re:find him, prosecute him by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Rapture was last year, buddy. Think about that for a moment. Yes, you're all still here with the rest of us.

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      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    68. Re:find him, prosecute him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As if any further proof was needed. Just look at anyone who has used it for any length of time and you'll find out all you need to know.

    69. Re:find him, prosecute him by cusco · · Score: 1

      I'm just wondering what's wrong with joyriding fire trucks. Skateboarders have done it for at least three generations now, the only people that they've endangered are their own stupid selves.

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      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
    70. Re:find him, prosecute him by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Lies and damn lies, as anyone who played Left 4 Dead knows full well.

      "I can't get over how FAST they all are, it's not even fair. I'm calling zombie bullshit on that, you know? They're not...ALLOWED to be so fast." - Zoey

    71. Re:find him, prosecute him by Capsaicin · · Score: 1

      I had a discussion with three or four people who insisted on defending Chris Dorner.

      I stand corrected. Foolish of me to underestimate the pull of contrarianism, I suppose.

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      Better to be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident a security. --Edmund Burke
    72. Re:find him, prosecute him by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      Lies and damn lies, as anyone who played Left 4 Dead knows full well.

      "I can't get over how FAST they all are, it's not even fair. I'm calling zombie bullshit on that, you know? They're not...ALLOWED to be so fast." - Zoey

      Well if you are a zombie 'purist', then the only true zombies are George Romero's version. Dumb, slow, easily fooled, can't talk... The only way for them to get you was by surprise, turn a corner and they're right there! Before you can recover from the fright... too late, you're zombie food.

      I haven't played this Left4Dead, but it sounds like they've broken Romero's unwritten zombie rules. I don't think I like this trend. Nope, don't like it one bit. These kids today shouldn't be messin' with 'the classics'. T'aint right, I tells ya'.

    73. Re:find him, prosecute him by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      So no, the fact that an attacker compromised a system doesn't always mean someone dropped the ball. Sometimes it does, but not always and not necessarily.

      No, it always does. Unless there is some physical property of the universe that means that this particular hole in this system just cannot be closed, someone made a mistake. Whether that mistake was in the engineering or the specification, or if that mistake can be readily forgiven depends on a whole host of other things - including how much time and resources were allocated to the project, what the specifications were, whether security was knowingly being traded off for other factors, etc.

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      Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
  4. You can't buy publicity like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a guerilla and somewhat illegal promo for The Walking Dead.

  5. Capture of the broadcast by beanfeast · · Score: 5, Informative

    Supposedly this is the capture of the hacked broadcast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc60XPCXrh8

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    1. Re:Capture of the broadcast by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've found several videos of the alert during 2-3 different shows at YouTube (today's uploads: 'emergency zombie alert system') but haven't seen any that actually mention the zombies in the on-screen alert yet...they all just say that there's a civil emergency without mentioning what it is.

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  6. Helena too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    KXLH in Helena reported the same,
    http://www.kxlh.com/news/bogus-emergency-alert-message-transmitted/
    they may be sister stations that share an EAS infrastructure?

    1. Re:Helena too by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Informative

      All stations share their EAS infrastructure. The largest stations get their data direct; smaller stations get it from larger ones. All stations need to have at least two different data sources set up. It is actually a reasonably well set up topology, and it is tested on a very regular basis.

      The FCC also imposes strict fines on anyone who fails a test; the base fine for a violation is $8,000 and is scaled up for repeat or blatant violations.

      How the FCC handles fines in this case will be interesting. The EAS system is designed for speed and reliability, not for security; there is message validation built in to prevent unintentional activation, but a correctly-formatted bogus message inserted into the system will propogate as designed.

    2. Re:Helena too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just to expand on this somewhat:

      Each state has a number of "State Primary" stations which receive the alerts directly from the weather service or other civil authority. Slightly smaller stations ("Local Primary") in regional markets in turn monitor the broadcast of the state primary stations and relay the alerts received into their broadcast. Finally, the smaller stations monitor local primary and relay the alerts that are specific for their listening area. Each station will monitor two other stations as set by the FCC for redundancy.

      The alerts themselves are comprised of a SAME header (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_Area_Message_Encoding) repeated three times for error correction. (That is the buzzing you hear). Then a 9 second attention tone (the beep), followed by the audio message. An end of message (three short buzzes) signals the end of a transmission.

      The SAME header is exclusively what will determine the message's relay effect. Some message types (National Alerts) will likely be programmed by most EAS receivers to instantaneously cut into the broadcast and inject the alert. Other messages (flood watch's) will likely be at the DJ's (or station policy's) discression of if / when to cut into programming. In addition to the alert type there will be a valid time, and a notification area. If the alert is received outside of the active time window or for an area not part of the broadcast area it will likely be discarded.

      There is not ANY validation in terms of message legitimacy in terms of the sense people in the internet regime would be used to. There is no public cert signing or anything of the sort. You could craft an audio blurb using information on wikipedia and using audacity/some other audio generator and if you were able to call into to a radio show on a state/local primary station have it aired would set the entire system off. Changing three letters in the transmission is all that's needed to change the originating authority from appearing to come from NWS to making it look like a national alert.

      In fact a commercial for the movie Skyline (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDD1tZS-buE) had to be pulled from broadcasting because it uses the SAME headers in its audio and was falsely tripping EAS systems.

      The security of this system is that the FCC will levy heavy fines for purposely offending stations, stations already often have a 30 sec delay built into the broadcast chain to stop profanity which could be used to dump the audio from a live caller, and finally most stations should have their broadcast chain hardened against someone remotely "hacking" in and playing their own audio. Although with many stations going full IP these days, the remote access possibility is probably becoming more likely.

    3. Re:Helena too by vlm · · Score: 0

      Given the incredible simplicity of the SAME protocol I'm surprised that to the best of my knowledge SAME filters are not common in broadcast engineering.
      It seems a pretty trivial filter to add to existing phone patch gear, for example, which would utterly eliminate the chance of your hack above.

      Are you seeing multiple 2 or so millisecond bursts of adjacent more or less roughly 1500 and roughly 2000 hz? If so, eat them and output zero to the transmitter stream. Something like a phone patch already has plenty of latency for the echo cans so its no big deal to add.

      This is so blindingly obvious that you'd think all phone patch gear would have it, so no one talks about it or even puts it in brochures. Or, as usually happens with security epic fails, they don't, LOL.

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    4. Re:Helena too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speed and reliability! Ha! If you ever worked in local TV, you would know that those design goals were definitely NOT met!

    5. Re:Helena too by fafalone · · Score: 1

      $8,000 fine for a TV station huh? So, less than they spend on the anchor's hair each month?

  7. Primitive Tech by rueger · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's been a few years since I worked down there, but EAS always seemed like pretty primitive tech. One of the last remaining bastions of serial printer ports as I recall. It is (or was a few years ago) ugly, annoying, tended to chop the ends off of messages, and many of the weather service alerts either were for somewhere entirely remote from us, or were so garbled that they were incomprehensible.

    I'm entirely unsurprised that it's easy to hack in to EAS.

    1. Re:Primitive Tech by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      It's all in-band signalling, right? What could possible go wrong.

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    2. Re:Primitive Tech by Cbs228 · · Score: 2

      I recently built a decoder for EAS/SAME messages. You can read about the protocol it uses at the National Weather Service. Forget about cryptographic signatures; SAME has absolutely no concept of message integrity. There is no CRC or checksum—not even a lowly parity bit.

      Of course, it's difficult to use a checksum when you can't figure out when the message ends. Most systems use some kind of flag byte to tell the decoder where the end of the frame is, but SAME doesn't even have that. The decoder has to figure out where the end of the message is by parsing it and lopping off the garbage from the end. Messages are "redundant" in that they are repeated three times, but this doesn't improve redundancy very much. SAME also depends on a voice message to convey the content of the alert, which is hardly ideal in today's environment.

      But SAME does have one thing going for it: You can actually get the messages. Its heir-apparent, IPAWS, seems more heavily focused on making sure people can't get the alerts. There are no public distribution hubs—you have to have a certificate from FEMA to get any data. Even with a certificate, there is, reportedly, no data to be had. I hope they make a SAME 2.0, even if it's only for end delivery to the general public via weather radios.

      I've built the EAS decoder into a new version of multimon, which is available here. It can't generate messages; it only decodes them. From the YouTube video, here is what the zombie apocalypse man had to say:

      ZCZC-CIV-LAE-030077-030007-030043-030049-030059+0015-0422133-KRTV -

      Please don't spoof EAS messages. The system is fragile enough without you messing with it.

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    3. Re:Primitive Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EAS is a waste of money for a system that doesn't work and has never been used for an emergency and unlikely ever will.

  8. yeah right by bitt3n · · Score: 5, Funny

    This message did not originate from KRTV, and there is no emergency

    those are some wily zombies

    1. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      those are some wily zombies

      Send More Technicians

  9. RESULT !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid American Fundies top themselves becuase they cant believe they were left behind and fear what was comming.
    Nothing of any value was lost.

  10. Great... by runeghost · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now when the REAL zombie apocalypse arrives, everyone will assume it's just another prank...

    1. Re:Great... by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      too late.. all those zombie movies have already desensitized us.. we should ban all zombie movies! ...just in case.. you know, for the children?

  11. Cover up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, Umbrella is already covering it up.

  12. Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Be warned: the original report was genuine. The denial is issued by zombies.

    Signed:
    The Anti Zombie protection league

  13. Can't Stop the Signal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't stop the signal. You can never... stop... the signal.

    1. Re:Can't Stop the Signal. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      "Mine is the last voice you will ever hear. Don't be alarmed."

  14. Fleeing upwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    And remember not to run up stairs to escape them, leaving you stranded on the roof like EVERY FUCKING MOVIE IN EXISTANCE.

    1. Re:Fleeing upwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And remember not to run up stairs to escape them, leaving you stranded on the roof like EVERY FUCKING MOVIE IN EXISTANCE.

      Yes, we should instead use the cellar. The cellar is the safest place.

    2. Re:Fleeing upwards by Molochi · · Score: 1

      But if you can get them up stairs withith you you can outrun them downstairs... Oh wait that's bears and cows. Zombies you just walk away from.

      I wanna do a movie where the survivors wear ripstop nylon (or something similar) to stop bites while they sleep and just out walk the zombies.

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    3. Re:Fleeing upwards by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      Split up! Half of you to the cellar and the rest come with me to the roof.

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    4. Re:Fleeing upwards by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      No, no.. Send the slow ones out the front door screaming. That way, you can safely walk out the back door to the truck and drive away..

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    5. Re:Fleeing upwards by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't you want to send the fast ones then? More likely to keep them busy for a while.

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    6. Re:Fleeing upwards by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      and just out walk the zombies.

      You never saw Zombieland, did you? You couldn't out walk those zombies. You had to out run them.

      It's a funny take on the whole zombie genre with Woody Harrelson, Jesse Eisenberg and Emma Stone along with an appearance by Bill Murray.

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    7. Re:Fleeing upwards by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Nah, I want the fast ones with me. The nimble are more likely to stay alive. There's better survival in numbers. We all have to sleep sometime.

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      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    8. Re:Fleeing upwards by dl_sledding · · Score: 1

      Gotta keep some slow ones with you though. For future distration uses. Remember, you don't have to run faster than the zombie (granting that they are the fast variety), just faster than your companion at the time of the encounter.

    9. Re:Fleeing upwards by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      Rule #1: CARDIO

      Rule #2: Double Tap...

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    10. Re:Fleeing upwards by Molochi · · Score: 1

      No I saw it, Zombieland had fast-ish zombies. Umbrella corp made super giant zombies with big axes. I Am Hero had nasty fast zombies.

      But your basic zombie (NOTLD / Walking Dead) is just an infectious walking corpse. Somehow the crows (that are all immune from what I can tell) don't just peck all their eyeballs out. Everyone runs around in guinea tshirts and shorts and everyone acts all surprised that a biter got 'em.

      It's a tardfest.

       

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    11. Re:Fleeing upwards by JWSmythe · · Score: 1
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  15. Full Recording of the Alert on KRTV by AbsoluteXyro · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I28e0IqIgPc -- KRTV out of Great Falls, Montana.

    1. Re:Full Recording of the Alert on KRTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pancakes! Pancakes! Pancakes!

    2. Re:Full Recording of the Alert on KRTV by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      TThanks for the reminder.

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  16. Gentle reminder about security by hessian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think these gentle reminders about security are great and are part of the spirit of hacking.

    Which would the USA rather have: (a) goofball hackers create a zombie panic, or (b) our next enemy uses a coordinated attack to create actual panic?

    Reminds me of the infamous "War of the Worlds" broadcast by Orson Welles.

  17. Giant Balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone has some giant balls. This is pretty funny actually. I just hope no one gets hurt that was innocent. I don't care if assholes die though. :)

  18. Michigan and Massachusetts as well by Enderandrew · · Score: 1
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  19. I don't know... by s.t.a.l.k.e.r._loner · · Score: 1
    "This message did not originate from KRTV, and there is no emergency."

    Uh huh. I'm not falling for their cover-up!

  20. The hackers must have been hacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody must have changed the date on the hackers' machines to April 1st...

  21. typical. by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Funny

    First the undead rise from their graves. Then the establishment covers it up. And it's not a coincidence that there are shortages and limits on ammo.

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    1. Re:typical. by knorthern+knight · · Score: 5, Funny

      > First the undead rise from their graves. Then the establishment covers it
      > up. And it's not a coincidence that there are shortages and limits on ammo.

      Chinese infiltrators in the US government want zombies to survive, so that they can be enslaved into preparing food at Chinese restaurants... the project codename is "Dead Men Wokking".

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    2. Re:typical. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > First the undead rise from their graves. Then the establishment covers it
      > up. And it's not a coincidence that there are shortages and limits on ammo.

      Chinese infiltrators in the US government want zombies to survive, so that they can be enslaved into preparing food at Chinese restaurants... the project codename is "Dead Men Wokking".

      2/3 of a joke here P-U

    3. Re:typical. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The dead only rise from their graves on Election Day to help corrupt Chicago politicians get re-elected.

    4. Re:typical. by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      The undead have been with us for a long time already. However, they are mostly in congress. I mean, have you looked at Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnel lately?

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
  22. It has always been this way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fairness, it has always been possible to cry wolf. We try not to put security validation in the middle of high stress emergency situations. If you call some place and tell them there is a bomb, they will bring in the police and bomb squad to investigate, no matter whether they think it is real or not. On a firing range ANYONE can call cease fire. Anyone can call 911. Anyone can get on aviation's 121.5 "guard" channel to call for help.

    But if you are crying wolf, you can expect to pay a heavy price for your behavior. People take this stuff seriously, no matter what it is, no matter who is calling.

    It may seem funny that someone discovered how to make a phony zombie attack on the EAS, but believe me, the authorities aren't laughing.

    This is one instance where it is probably legitimate to go easy on the security posturing and consider that when you are up to your ass in alligators you are not going to remember a password or find a key you haven't used in months.

  23. It's just another sign of the Zombie Apocalypse. by laxr5rs · · Score: 2

    When the Zombies do come, there's no real point in fighting or running, eventually they will win.

  24. 'When You Start Me Up' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A back line in the Stones 'Start Me Up' goes:

    'U Make A Dead Man Cum'.

    Guess there is a foul oder in the air at Great Falls, Montana this night. :D

  25. Well done by thelexx · · Score: 1

    And tsk, tsk. What can I say, it's a battle between the young and the old internal geeks.

    I also note sadly to myself that my old geek would scold, while the current enforcement mindset would encourage terrorist charges. And also noting that the fact that I would even _think about that_ is fucking sad.

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    1. Re:Well done by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 1

      Guess my inner geek is still young, as I thought it was quite amusing, as was one comment to a YouTube video of the alert begging "please someone hack into Fox News to do this on Easter!"

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  26. Astonishing news! by nigelo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Amazing that this got through to the front page of /. in the same week that it happened!

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    1. Re:Astonishing news! by codeButcher · · Score: 1

      Amazing that this got through to the front page of /. THE FIRST TIME in the same week that it happened!

      Fixed that for you.

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  27. You're Already Screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't you know? There's been a run lately on guns and ammunition with all the talk about enacting stricter gun control laws. Many stores are out of stock. Best of luck dude!

  28. Your thinking is entirely backwards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You really think that the people who designed this system meant for it to be this accessible? Seriously? I most sincerely doubt it, this is most likely the result of poor security choices, perhaps even as simple as using a weak password, by those local officials you placed on a pedestal.

    What you had to say was naive, nigh propagandist-level. How you got "insightful", I'll never know.

  29. You're Early by hyades1 · · Score: 2

    Sounds like a test of the voting system the Republicans are planning to have in place for 2014. ;-)

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    1. Re:You're Early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they dress shabbily and lurk in urban environments. They're clearly Democrats.

    2. Re:You're Early by formfeed · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a test of the voting system the Republicans are planning to have in place for 2014. ;-)

      Dead people showing up at the poll sounds more like a Chicago thing.

    3. Re:You're Early by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Don't be silly. By 2014, there won't be any Republicans... only survivors.

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    4. Re:You're Early by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      No, it's definitely Republican. Like trying to do a riff on somebody else's joke and falling flat on your face.

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    5. Re:You're Early by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      It's times like this I wish Slashdot had a slightly different thread setup. That remark deserves to be rated "ROFL", or something like that.

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    6. Re:You're Early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who do you think the survivors will be?
      The Republicans own all the guns... and all the farms and ranches where food comes from too.

    7. Re:You're Early by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

      Who do you think the survivors will be?

      The smart ones. So you can pretty much rule out the GOP.

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    8. Re:You're Early by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      Look at the voting patterns of urban vs. rural areas and do a survey of hypothetical "end of the world" scenarios. Then re-examine your hypothesis.

      Densely populated urban areas are clearly the Democrat strongholds. I think it's also fairly safe to assume that WTSHTF, zombie apocalypse or otherwise, the cities are going to be the first to burn.

    9. Re:You're Early by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      I'm a pinko commie social democrat, and I own more guns than most of my Republican friends.

      And there are plenty of farms around here owned by the local hippies. Of course, they mostly grow weed...

  30. "Engineers" in the loosest sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm good look finding the source of this, I know the type of engineers television stations hire and I suspect inside job. Just be sure to check with the zombie alert engineers they may have had something to do with this.

  31. It's just a simulation by twocows · · Score: 1

    They're coming soon. Maybe you should think twice about opening the door.

  32. To missionaries? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zombies exist and they do want your brains. In exchange, you get an imaginary friend or two, or three, or more. You may even become a zombie yourself for a time, going from house to house trying to infect the living. It depends on the sort of zombie that comes to your door and what book(s) he/she/it may be carrying - or clothing they may [or may not] be wearing - or the following he/she/it may represent.

  33. Already air gapped. by formfeed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Most local TV stations are already air gapped.

    Not the equipment. The air gap is usually between the ears of the anchor

  34. No emergency ... from the POV of the ZOMBIES!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zombie Radio Announcer: "... there is no emergency. Send more Slashdotters ..."

  35. Non sequitur by formfeed · · Score: 1

    Instead of the oblig. xkcd:
    The walking dead

  36. Likely attack vector: NOAA weather radio by Dr.+JJJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This hack is clearly an invocation of the Emergency Alert System. The EAS is a hierarchically-organized digital message propagation system that has no authentication scheme for the vast majority of the nodes that participate in the network. Since every moderately-sized licensed broadcast radio and TV station in the United States is required to participate in the network, that is a lot of attackable nodes.

    The hierarchy is easy to exploit if you wish to spoof an alert on a specific station. All you need to know is the specific list of stations that your target listens to for alerts and a mobile radio transmitter that you can position relatively closely to your target's EAS receiving equipment. The list of "source" stations for your target is often public information, or can be deduced very easily. (Search for "<city> eas plan" in your favorite search engine.) The radio transmitter required is nothing more than a VHF two-way radio, which can often be a "modded" Amateur Radio which can transmit outside of the legal Amateur bands.

    • Step 1: Assemble an EAS alert on a computer using a little bit of code to generate the appropriate tones and an audio editor to stitch them together. The exact format is tricky, but the information is publicly available.
    • Step 2: Find your likely target's listening list. These are often listed as the "Local Primary" and "Local Secondary" stations in your target's metropolitan area. These, unfortunately, are hard to spoof because broadcast-band FM and AM transceivers are harder to get a hold of. Instead, look up the NOAA weather radio transmission frequencies in your target's area. These stations are often used as additional EAS sources by almost every broadcast station in the system, and they are easy to spoof with portable equipment.
    • Step 3: Put the spoof transmitter in a car and drive as close as possible to the target's published studio headquarters. Targets often place their receiving equipment in their primary studio locations.
    • Step 4: Put your transmitter into transmit mode and play back your spoofed alert. You need to remain nearby just long enough to complete the injection process. With a short message you only need about 60 seconds.
    • Step 5: Drive away. The automated relay system at your target will do the rest.

    Step 4 (transmission) is extremely easy, even with low-powered equipment (250mW). Because of your proximity and the FM Capture Effect you will have no problem overpowering the real source station without adversely affecting or alerting anyone outside a 1/2 mile radius.

    My guess is the attackers here did precisely this. They probably exploited this TV station by spoofing a local NOAA weather radio channel that the TV station was listening to for alerts.

    1. Re:Likely attack vector: NOAA weather radio by vlm · · Score: 1

      The exact format is tricky,

      Oh spare me. Its about as complicated as an ancient FSK bell 103 modem, like a 300 baud modem. You want a complicated layer 1, try a 56K modem or heck even the PSK / QAM family would be more complicated.

      As for your "tricky" layer 2 message format, again, unimpressed.

      A really simple hack would be that they system is heavily overused. Every time one divorced parent is 5 minutes late at prisoner exchange time they call the SWAT team to embarrass and punish. Every time a snow flake falls they send a critical warning. Every time a drop of rain falls, a tornado watch alert is sent. Now yes I'm well aware that once in a while there is a REAL emergency. The point being that you don't need a full set of encoders and decoders, because there is not chronological component or hashing or salting or any crypto at all, a simple tape recorder is all thats needed for chaos.

      I would not be surprised if "out there" on the net there's a sort-gray-hat ftp site full of wav files ready to play on a smart phone held up to a broadcast/remote broadcast/wireless microphone.

      You don't need a EE degree to write your own SAME encoder, nor do you have to attack the geeks simply for being able to do it. All you need is to know how to use google and how to use wavplayer and/or whatever plays wav files on your smartphone, and ...

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  37. Hmm ... there may be an upside to this by golodh · · Score: 2
    Think of it ... zombies don't need health insurance, retirement packages, dental care, medical care, or career prospects. And they're not taxed either.

    They also don't take bathroom breaks, don't need time off. Health and safety laws don't apply to them, they're genuinely American (don't forget to bring geo-coded picture of your personal grave), if one or two get caught up in machinery or drop from scaffolding no-one will ask inconvenient questions, and they will work for a few pounds of squishy matter a day that should be easy enough to obtain.

    Am I the only one who sees an opportunity here?

    1. Re:Hmm ... there may be an upside to this by vlm · · Score: 1

      Think of it ... zombies don't need health insurance, retirement packages, dental care, medical care, or career prospects. And they're not taxed either.

      They also don't take bathroom breaks, don't need time off. Health and safety laws don't apply to them, they're genuinely American (don't forget to bring geo-coded picture of your personal grave), if one or two get caught up in machinery or drop from scaffolding no-one will ask inconvenient questions, and they will work for a few pounds of squishy matter a day that should be easy enough to obtain.

      Am I the only one who sees an opportunity here?

      Been there, done that, we already have a zillion more illegal aliens than we need here, thanks.

      Before I get flamed, note that I don't think its right how they're treated, but I am (unfortunately) right about how they are treated, so keep that in mind while fanning the flames with the race card.

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    2. Re:Hmm ... there may be an upside to this by golodh · · Score: 2
      Hmm ... I sort of see your point, but are zombies really illegal?

      After all, most of them were born here, right? How exactly does their legal title to be in the US change on death?

      After all, they wouldn't be deported while they rested quietly in their designated resting place, so why would that change now that they've suddenly decided to change their err ... unlife-style ... and become more active? There could be significant savings on legal risks here.

    3. Re:Hmm ... there may be an upside to this by vlm · · Score: 1

      LOL I think you're over analyzing this, just search and replace the word "zombie" with "illegal alien" in the quoted description and unfortunately that's a very accurate description of how they're treated here. Unfortunately 1) things won't improve for them until the supply runs low 2) Its still better than back home for their definition of back home.

      Rather than invading Iran, the best thing that could happen to the USA (and, frankly, about 99.9% of the mexicans) would be invading Mexico and doing a little regime change.

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  38. It's not hard to hack that system... by Wizardess · · Score: 0
    I programmed this into a news room video application for a customer of mine. It is quite hackable. I've been waiting for something like this to happen. It's only real security was its, then, relative obscurity. It has other quaint problems, too. I presume they will get discovered the hard way with time.

    {^_-}

  39. Replay attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder what tone would need to be sent to trigger this system, but hey the tone is sent at the start of the broadcast and now recorded on youtube. Beep, Beep wobble woble tone, zombies are rising...

    1. Re:Replay attack by vlm · · Score: 1

      I wonder what tone would need to be sent to trigger this system, but hey ...

      ... just turn on your polite scanner or marine radio to the NWS channels and listen next time there's a psuedo-emergency. They have about 100 times as many psuedo-emergencies as real ones so they'll be plenty to listen to. Its not that complicated.

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    2. Re:Replay attack by vlm · · Score: 1

      polite scanner

      police scanner. Autocorrect Fs me up more than it helps me.

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  40. Die Hard 6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Die Hard 6 : nope, they don't appear to be dying, oh wait they are undead now.

    The dead are back. This time with a vengeance!

  41. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Theory: a mad-scientist is developing a zombie virus and has been secretly behind much of the modern popularity for zombie themed fiction and pranks. Zombie walks. Hacking warning signs and systems to display false warnings of zombies. Etc. It's all just a way to wear down our defenses so that when there actually is a massive zombie outbreak nobody will believe it.

    Zombie warnings on the EAS system, on the news, on traffic signs? Haha, funny joke. Zombies walking around in mass downtown or in the mall? Must be a flash mob or something. Oh, one of them is trying to bite me, maybe I should play along...

  42. Re:It's just another sign of the Zombie Apocalypse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one welcome our new zombie overl.... . BRAAAAINS!!!!

  43. Could have been Kansas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously in some areas religious primitives might take such a bulletin as the end days and do some really insane things in fits of religious fervor. This hack could have caused great harm.

  44. To the Winchester... by DougOtto · · Score: 0

    ..and wait for it to blow over.

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  45. How would anyone know? by CyberPhart · · Score: 1

    I agree with the insightful posters who are declaring the probable reality of this zombie attack. But how are we to know? Have you ever been to Montana? Do you even know anybody who's been to Montana? Do you even know anybody who knows anybody....well, you get my point. Hell's bells, there could be a high-kicking chorus line of zombies dancing down Main Street in Helena and who would know? Believe me about this. I live in Ohio. I know about states that nobody visits.

  46. DUMB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are tactical advantages to being able to hack into that system, but doing something so obvious only draws attention to that, and that is tactically dumb.

  47. The timing is right for folks to rise from dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  48. Montana /.ers by CHIT2ME · · Score: 1

    Bet a lot of Montana /.ers who were watching soiled themselves. Hope the FCC catches up with these dickheads and throws the book at them!

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