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Copyright Alert System To Launch Monday

An anonymous reader sends this excerpt from the Daily Dot: "Starting next week, most U.S. Internet users will be subject to a new copyright enforcement system that could force them to complete educational programs, and even slow their Internet speeds to a crawl. A source with direct knowledge of the Copyright Alert System [said] the five participating Internet service providers will start the controversial program Monday. The ISPs — industry giants AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner, and Verizon — will launch their versions of the CAS on different days throughout the week. Comcast is expected to be the first, on Monday." Of course, there are many ways around the Copyright Alert System, so it probably won't be terribly effective.

224 comments

  1. To be fair. by masternerdguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is actually a pretty moderate approach compared to just suing single mothers for millions of dollars for downloading an MP3 once.

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    1. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ubuntu £inux is the root cause of software piracy. It is distributed in an ISO format, the same format that pirated games are typically distributed in. It also has a torrent app that comes in the default install and automatically opens when a torrent is downloaded by your browser! This is entrapment and training the next generation of software pirates. Did you know Ubuntu sends all your infos to the NSA and that the Ubuntu phone is rumored to have a black specs NSA tracking ribbon (the same one used in $20 bills)? I can cite many references on slashdot to similar claims. Ubuntu is unable to run the hit 10/10 release Aliens: Colonial Marines (its an express elevator to epic) which means if Ubuntu is adopted widely the AAA game industry will collapse and millions will be unemployed. Does this mean Ubuntu's ultimate goal is to devastate the US economy? I don't know but I will ask the question. Personally I installed Windows 8 and have a worry free desktop. Microsoft is the hero in all this, fighting an uphill battle against the Ubuntu Tycoons who are brainwashing college students with promises of a "free high quality OS" - Like piracy, there is a price, and it is your immortal soul!

    2. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Is it as bad? Well, this could easily affect innocent people, and it could be used against anyone. Hell, since there's no real oversight, I can say that it probably will.

      Regardless of whether it's as bad as some of the other insane copyright enforcement schemes, it's still unjust.

    3. Re:To be fair. by plover · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ubuntu Tycoons

      You owe me a new keyboard.

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    4. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is actually a pretty moderate approach compared to just suing single mothers for millions of dollars for downloading an MP3 once.

      It's "pretty moderate" in the same sense as beating up a woman is "pretty moderate" compared to raping her.

    5. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It's the oldest trick in the book

      Threaten somebody with rape and torture long enough, and a "mere" weekly beating will seem "pretty moderate" and many complete retards will even act like it's a "good" thing.
      And for that, the deserve the beating. Stupidity is supposed to hurt.

      But: "Educational" programs? You mean brainwashing with lies!

      I would say this reminds me of "A Clockwork Orange". But it is much, much worse.
      In the movie, there's at least a valid reason: You get a brainwashing if you harm others.
      But here, it is: You get a brainwashing, if you don't let the Content Mafia harm you!

      Until the whole population believes in the lie of imaginary property, without questioning or checking.

      Every. Single. One. Of the Content Mafia MUST go to pound-me-in-the-ass prison RIGHT NOW. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 quadrillion dollar.

    6. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Only it will now be used IN CONCERT with lawsuits, not instead of.

    7. Re:To be fair. by c · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is actually a pretty moderate approach compared to just suing single mothers for millions of dollars for downloading an MP3 once.

      True, but keep in mind that this is likely just in addition to suing single mothers for millions of dollars for downloading an MP3 once. I don't expect they're going to call off their political lobbying, either.

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    8. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The funny thing is that all this is gonna do is grow tor's (and other thingies) use to levels unseen before. It will take some years, sure, but sooner or later these dumbasses are going to be scratching their heads wondering what the hell is that seemingly random flow out there that they cannot crack.

    9. Re:To be fair. by Snufu · · Score: 2

      Step 1: Apply egregious, extortionate infringements on personal freedoms.
      Step 2: Replace egregious infringements with milder versions so that in comparison the victim might not recognize the infringement.
      Step 3: Prophetz.

    10. Re:To be fair. by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...pretty moderate approach...

      A guy got stopped by a cop for rolling through a stop sign.
      The guy started complaining about it, saying, "C'mon man, I slowed down before crossing."
      The cop rips him out of the car and starts to beat the crap out of the guy, saying, "Do you want to me to stop? Or do you want me to slow down?

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    11. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or ISPs will begin to terminate or hugely throttle encrypted communications that pass a size threshold. Online buying and banking should still be fine, but online backups and VPNs are clearly for business-class users only.

    12. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Face Palm*

    13. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nah, they already got Tor's number. They'll just arrest all the node operators on child porn charges.

    14. Re:To be fair. by zipn00b · · Score: 0

      Yeah I wore mine out playing that game too........

    15. Re:To be fair. by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree. Nothing can ever go wrong when government and corporations establish a re-education programs.

    16. Re:To be fair. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      I would not worry too much about it.

      (A) They've been saying they were going to do it "any day now" for over a year. Most of the time they've said they were going to start "the beginning of next month". Now it's "next week" (which, in fact, is the beginning of next month). So if their past performance is any indication, it will probably be another 6 months at least.

      (B) I predict that as soon as they do start to implement it, whenever that may be, they will start to see lawsuits. Maybe even class-action lawsuits. Because it violates an awful lot of existing contracts. Not all, but a lot. In fact the legality of the whole "system" is very much in question. Not to mention its accuracy.

      (C) Many of those for whom latency or highest speed is not an issue will likely just go to satellite (it's cheaper anyway), or DSL, or some other service that does not try to pull this B.S.

      Etc...

    17. Re:To be fair. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't remember who said this about the RIAA and MPAA, but it was something like, "Bashing somebody in the head repeatedly and then saying 'Buy my product!' is probably not a very good business model."

    18. Re:To be fair. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2

      "This is actually a pretty moderate approach compared to just suing single mothers for millions of dollars for downloading an MP3 once."

      But even if it is "more moderate", it isn't going to work, and it's still very likely illegal on a number of grounds, which I have repeatedly pointed out here on /. before.

    19. Re:To be fair. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Hah! Very well said.

      I'd also like to point out that the "independent expert" they first selected to evaluate their "system", turned out to be an ex-lobbyist for the RIAA. (Or maybe it was the MPAA, but it was definitely one of the two.)

      While they did drop the guy, and say they'd go with some other "independent expert", there are three notable things about that:

      (1) They still haven't done it yet,

      (2) when they do, you can bet it will STILL be somebody about as "independent" as my ass is from the rest of me, and

      (3) the software they currently have lined up for their "system" (and which [see item 1] hasn't been independently reviewed yet) has had some notorious, public, and pretty ridiculous failures... setting them up for even more lawsuits.

    20. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Threaten somebody with rape and torture long enough, and a "mere" weekly beating will seem "pretty moderate" and many complete retards will even act like it's a "good" thing. And for that, the deserve the beating. Stupidity is supposed to hurt.

      If they "deserve" it, then the "retards" are right and the beating is a good thing. Which means they aren't the "retards" - you are. Incidentally, it also means that you agree completely with the "content mafia" and are therefore one of its members and MUST go to pound-me-in-the-ass prison RIGHT NOW as you claimed.

      So it's fortunate for you, then, that you're just tossing out half-baked, childishly simplistic platitudes that have even less basis in reality than those of the "content mafia" to whom you're inadvertently giving good PR.

    21. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was this in LA by any chance?

    22. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic but I don't think you are, so I'm addressing your point as if it's serious:

      In Asian diplomacy, step 1 is to be outrageous. Refuse to listen to the opposing party, make ridiculously absurd demands, and concede nothing.

      Step 2 is stalemate, but you make it extremely clear that you will still concede nothing.

      Step 3 is to pretend to listen to the opposing party, say you'll compromise, make slightly less absurd demands, and concede nothing.

      If this fails you start the process over again. Insist that the slightly less absurd demands are a moderate compromise, which is a true statement, because compared to the original ridiculously absurd demands, it's a 'more moderate' approach. The RIAA/MPAA is playing a game of Asian diplomacy and suckers like you (assuming you're not just being facetious) enable them to win.

    23. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ubuntu £inux is the root cause of software piracy. It is distributed in an ISO format, the same format that pirated games are typically distributed in. It also has a torrent app that comes in the default install and automatically opens when a torrent is downloaded by your browser! This is entrapment and training the next generation of software pirates. Did you know Ubuntu sends all your infos to the NSA and that the Ubuntu phone is rumored to have a black specs NSA tracking ribbon (the same one used in $20 bills)? I can cite many references on slashdot to similar claims. Ubuntu is unable to run the hit 10/10 release Aliens: Colonial Marines (its an express elevator to epic) which means if Ubuntu is adopted widely the AAA game industry will collapse and millions will be unemployed. Does this mean Ubuntu's ultimate goal is to devastate the US economy? I don't know but I will ask the question. Personally I installed Windows 8 and have a worry free desktop. Microsoft is the hero in all this, fighting an uphill battle against the Ubuntu Tycoons who are brainwashing college students with promises of a "free high quality OS" - Like piracy, there is a price, and it is your immortal soul!

      psshhh.. nobody uses .iso anymore. that's so 2005

    24. Re:To be fair. by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also keep in mind the $35 'review fee'. They'll dump shitpiles of notices on people just to get those review fees. Another revenue stream to add to their gains from litigation.

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    25. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It happened in Sydney in make belief. Who know is it ever happened in reality.

    26. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice, suggesting that education is wrong and getting "Insightful" points for it.

    27. Re:To be fair. by __aasdno7518 · · Score: 1

      If I had an immortal soul. :>D (Ubuntu user.)

    28. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this guy is a bufoon!

    29. Re:To be fair. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Gees why be so uptight, those re-education programs sound real cool. Turn up to some place and meet a bunch of like minded people who want to share content, for whom the internet will be so slow that a sneaker net enormously faster and far preferable. Just the place for external h/disk drive exchanges or post meeting content swap dates. Where do you sign up ;)?

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    30. Re:To be fair. by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      Only it will now be used IN CONCERT with lawsuits, not instead of.

      Dude! Know where I can get a bootleg of this concert? It sounds AWESOME!

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    31. Re:To be fair. by vac65 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, those pesky Open Source promoters. They are the Open Source of EVIL.... VADE RETRO SATANA!!!!!!

    32. Re:To be fair. by Seumas · · Score: 1

      If you had any sort of education, you'd understand the point that was being made.

    33. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ubuntu brainwashing college students
        This is the ultimate BS I have come across !
      Linux (incl Ubuntu Linux) means FREEDOM ......... M$oft- Apple means Lock- in /DRM eg perpetuating greed.

      However , M$soft are beginning to understand the impact Freedom Software has ......and have started to contribute to the Open Source Coding efforts.

      From a very happy (non-pirating) Ubuntu-Lubuntu - Linux Mint user.

    34. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much is Microsoft paying you to spew this puke?

    35. Re:To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then i'm ok - i do kubuntu

    36. Re:To be fair. by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

      So DSL will not be effected? This is something that concerns me a bit.

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  2. Download Linux by Synerg1y · · Score: 2

    En mass, then go for a class action lawsuit when they throttle you. Problem solved.

    1. Re:Download Linux by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

      Why would they bust you for downloading Linux? Do you have any idea how the system works?

    2. Re:Download Linux by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      Somehow, I suspect that if you downloaded Linux over BT but with the filename skyfall.iso you'd still find yourself answering someone's accusation (or just getting black marked without any opportunity to answer). How these systems tend to work is unfortunately rather well known, since Big Media have screwed up so many times by going after perfectly legitimate and legal activities that were a bit too close to some keyword they naively searched for.

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    3. Re:Download Linux by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why would they bust you for downloading Linux?

      I got a nasty letter from my ISP telling me "No peer-to-peer". I called them, and said "WTF guys? I download Linux distros and OpenOffice ISOs via torrent, all kinds of 100% legal and legitimate content." "We don't care. No peer-to-peer."

      So I signed up for a VPN, of course.

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      You cannot wash away blood with blood
    4. Re:Download Linux by whoever57 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would they bust you for downloading Linux? Do you have any idea how the system works?

      Any excuse to limit the usage by high-bandwidth users. Comcast would be much happier (and profitable) if, despite all the adverts about the speed Comcast offers, you used your connection only to check your email a few times per day. No streaming media, etc..

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    5. Re:Download Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Who is your ISP?

    6. Re:Download Linux by nabsltd · · Score: 2

      Any excuse to limit the usage by high-bandwidth users.

      I think the solution should be that we need call up Comcast, Verizon, etc., and find out the method to report someone as "infringing", post it here, and then everyone should just report a few dozen random IPs that are known to be in the US networks of these companies. There is no penalty for a false accusation, so let's just see what happens if they have to deal with 50-60 million reports in a month.

    7. Re:Download Linux by Denogh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why would they bust you for downloading Linux?

      I got a nasty letter from my ISP telling me "No peer-to-peer". I called them, and said "WTF guys? I download Linux distros and OpenOffice ISOs via torrent, all kinds of 100% legal and legitimate content." "We don't care. No peer-to-peer."

      So I signed up for a VPN, of course.

      I wonder if they also go after all the folks that are just trying to download the latest WoW patch. Seems like most MMORPGs these days use P2P updaters.

    8. Re:Download Linux by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Fortunately or unfortunately, only agents of the *AA can report infringement. The system cannot be turned against itself. Arguably this is unfair to all copyright holders who are not part of the *AA, but the flip side is that you can pirate non-AA content with impunity.

    9. Re:Download Linux by doctor+woot · · Score: 1

      So I signed up for a VPN, of course.

      And dumped your ISP, right?

    10. Re:Download Linux by flimflammer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not everyone gets the luxury of choice.

    11. Re:Download Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Soon it will be 'you are transferring a high amount of data, we suspect you are violating copyright'..

      Remember they don't need proof.

    12. Re:Download Linux by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "We don't care. No peer-to-peer."

      This is unacceptable and unprofessional, can I please speak with your supervisor?

    13. Re:Download Linux by Genda · · Score: 2

      Fortunately or unfortunately, only agents of the *AA can report infringement. The system cannot be turned against itself. Arguably this is unfair to all copyright holders who are not part of the *AA, but the flip side is that you can pirate non-AA content with impunity.

      So let's get completely clear about this... ISPs are just doing what they do to make a profit. They look at the cost of fighting *AAs, and the impact of fighting vs. not fighting on their customers, then they optimize for profit. And let's not forget the not so subtle and significant pressure from government who panders to *AAs and less obviously, the government wouldn't mind having technology installed that could be used later to crawl up every American's ass to have a look see at what we collectively had for dinner. And there you are, the status quo.

      You want to fight this. Sweet. Convince Branson, or Buffet, or some other bastard with deep pockets who can be persuaded that the *AA is corrupt, evil, and a bankrupt business model. Build a stable of 1,000 or so Indie Artists from all genres (and I mean top talent including top artists from the 70s, 80s, 90s who're no longer doing the radio dance.) Create a new wide open business model with concerts, tours, special venues and intimate play parties. Create not just a new label, but a new way of serving consumers that lets them choose how to enjoy and gives them the power to support what they love. Watch the thing take off and crush the competition. Of course the *AA will try to legislate it out of existence. They'll do every dirty deed in the book to resist what's inevitable. They're just to stupid and stubborn to notice that they're already dead and the sediment is raining down on them and they won't give us the satisfaction of just laying down and becoming part of the fossil record.

      There you go, there's a record they can dominate... the fossil record!

    14. Re:Download Linux by deimtee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Drone: "Certainly Sir, just a minute", hits mute button, says to coworkers, "Who wants to be superviser today?".

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    15. Re:Download Linux by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      And dumped your ISP, right?

      Other available options are even more evil (Verizon) and/or incompetent (Comcast). My Sprint/Clear service isn't a fat pipe, but it's a good price and mostly satisfies my needs, other than this one boneheaded incident.

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    16. Re:Download Linux by Col+Bat+Guano · · Score: 2

      "We don't care. No peer-to-peer."

      "I just asked my coworker here at the ISP to confirm this, and he said he couldn't answer because - No peer-to-peer!"

    17. Re:Download Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some do, but toss it away for profit.

    18. Re:Download Linux by Ja'Achan · · Score: 1

      And Spotify.

    19. Re:Download Linux by TemperedAlchemist · · Score: 1

      Then I think it's time to change ISPs.

    20. Re:Download Linux by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      That might be in your TOS, if it's not, the letter can be considered libel possibly. But that's exactly my point, flood p2p with non-copyright material and demonstrate the folly of their system, preferably through huge financial penalty, since that's what it's all about to them anyways.

  3. Good lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Security is NOT sexy.

    1. Re:Good lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know. Marlene is kind of milfy.

    2. Re:Good lord by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2

      You never been to the RSA after-parties that I have, then... ;-)

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      Never been known to fail..."
    3. Re:Good lord by Genda · · Score: 2

      How big is your KEY, Baaabbeee!

  4. Good News by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 4, Informative

    For VPN providers.

    I'm partial to AirVPN since they accept Bitcoins for payment and let you connect via Tor if that's what you want.

    1. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm partial to AirVPN since they accept Bitcoins for payment and let you connect via Tor if that's what you want.

      Lol. That is all.

    2. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather trade livestock for dial-up... on a party line

    3. Re:Good News by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Yes, six-strikes is basically the MAFIAA's gift to the VPN industry and the "web locker" industry.

      I've been looking at VPNs for a while, but I haven't found one that hits all of my requirements. Maybe people here can make some recommendations.

      1) At least 3 devices - my home router and the smartphones of me and the wife. I'd really like to see 5 devices just so I've got enough of slop that I don't have to worry about keeping track of what is VPNed and what is not.

      2) High throughput

      3) Multiple egress points in multiple countries

      4) Unlimited switching between egress points

      5) Good pricing

      6) Reliable - not some fly-by-night looking to cash in on the MAFIAA's indulgence

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    4. Re:Good News by Seumas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Subscription VPN services are about as shady as porn and warez sites. Good luck finding the right mix of:

      + Our policy is not to retain logs, so we have no data to respond to requests for data with.
      + We have plenty of locations.
      + We don't have caps (or, at least, low caps).
      + We don't require that you install a ridiculous crappy VPN client (and, often, one that is just specifically aimed at file sharing -- or even worse, they just give you their own version of a torrent client with the VPN crap built into it).
      + We actually are in business and provide a service (you'll find many are fly-by-not or that you just sent payment to a company that hasn't done business in six months, despite their site suggesting its an active company.
      + We have decent speeds and are not overloading our capacity.

      It's also unfortunate that so many end-users believe that if they use a VPN, they're completely fine. They don't understand that -- even if everything else is fine -- your VPN provider, themselves, is a weak point and subject to warrant and so forth.

    5. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in the market for a VPN but I'm having problems with my bank (emigrating). A friend of mine has some Bitcoins so I'll ask him for a loan and try it out.

      This is the first time Slashdot has actually been useful to me. Thanks for the tip!

    6. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use torguard.net does all of the above. 5 devices too.

    7. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iPredator is very good for me, but all I care about is that they don't keep connection logs.

    8. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I'd just signup for a VPS host (lowendbox.com) and use that. Fill in some fake info on the signup form relative to where you are, install OpenVPN on it and auto delete the logs via cron job. BlueVM (bluevm.com) is good for this purpose and it costs like $15 /Year for a VPS with enough specs for it... they've been in business over 2 years now.

    9. Re:Good News by xeoron · · Score: 1

      For me tunnelr's no logging anonymous ssh and vpn service is wonderful, and reasonably priced.

    10. Re:Good News by Brannoncyll · · Score: 1

      I've been using Private Internet Access for a few months and have been very impressed - they are cheap at $7, have plenty of locations around Europe and North America, and they don't keep logs. The TorrentFreak article I linked also lists several other decent sounding VPN providers which might be worth a look.

    11. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AirVPN hits all of those provided your cell phones are either iOS or Android based. It's been up for a long time, I get an answer to any queries I post at night on their forum the very next morning, there are multiple positive reviews, they keep NO logs, etc. etc.

    12. Re:Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know how to properly stress that AirVPN fits all of the needs you and others have listed without coming off like a paid shill (for the record I pay *them* 20 bucks every 3 months, have never received a penny from them).

      AirVPN keeps no logs. None. They don't know anything about you.

      They have a good list of options in multiple countries. America, UK, Netherlands, Germany, etc. etc. I can't think of them all off the top of my head.

      Zero caps.

      You can install direct to your router using the info provided or they provide a "client" in that you sign into the program, select the country/VPN location you want, then click connect and it runs in the background with a little window that will tell you info like your up and down speeds and IP and such. You have the option to connect without their client on PC though. On iOS and Android (neither require rooting/jailbreaking) you need the client for it to work, but again it runs in the background.

      They are a legitimate business providing service, support, and good speeds, I have never seen them overloaded on capacity.

  5. Get a "business class" account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the "ways around CAS" is to get a business account, just like Starbucks would have for their free wifi. Verizon DSL for small business starts at $30/mo. Sign up for this, open your wifi, and pirate to your heart's content.

    1. Re:Get a "business class" account by Seumas · · Score: 1

      That seems unlikely to me. If you have a business account, you're probably a prime target, because you presumably have more funds than a soccer mom or elderly grandmother (though many, of course, are just home users with a business account to get rid of that stupid low usage cap).

  6. Can't catch me, I'm behind 7 proxies by Gothmolly · · Score: 1, Funny

    And the real pirates will continue to secretly proxy their stuff over encrypted channels.

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    1. Re:Can't catch me, I'm behind 7 proxies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real pirates will fire a big ol' canonball up yo ass. I'd watch out for dem muthafuckas

  7. Mega or Usenet secret plan, or mass disobedience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This seems designed to make everybody do mass disobedience (kind of like speeding). Or maybe it is a secret business plan by Mega for their new website that will make id of pirated material difficult? Then again, Usenet may stage a comeback....

  8. Massive consumer backlash by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

    in 3... 2... 1...

    1. Re:Massive consumer backlash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, big backlash, but where will people go when they backlash? The isps mentioned are all monopolies or duopolies, so you can't go elsewhere, except to a competitor who's doing the same things.

    2. Re:Massive consumer backlash by maugle · · Score: 1

      Well, I suppose you could lob a few bricks through the windows of their nearest office once a month, with the number of windows smashed determined by (monthly price of service * (number of ports blocked + number of false claims made against you + (advertised speed - actual speed)) / price of window).

      Note that the units of advertised speed and actual speed can be determined by how you feel about the ISP's overall behavior and level of service. Slightly annoyed? Use MBps. Extremely pissed off? baud.

    3. Re:Massive consumer backlash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      brick followed by molotov cocktail, lest they replenish their numbers!

    4. Re:Massive consumer backlash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't wanna rain on your parade or nuttin'..

      But my local comcast office now has video camera in it - I guess after that poor ol' granny brought a hammer with her and smashed their windows after they dicked around with her service.

      It's also in a wide open area (no other buildings for 100's of feet, which means I'd have to walk up wearing a hoody / mask (else they get my number plate) brick in hand, smash the window and then run back to my car and hope I don't meet the cops on the desolated drive back down the road which houses their building.

      I could perhaps do same with a long-range rifle though...

      I may have thought this through... many times.

    5. Re:Massive consumer backlash by C0R1D4N · · Score: 1

      Pickup truck + ballista + tarp (for covering in transport) = Lay siege!

  9. PLEASE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can we PLEASE keep referring to it as "Six Strikes system"? Not the Industry-concocted, innocent-sounding "alert system" crap? Thank you.

    1. Re:PLEASE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copyright Alert System sounds suitably Orwellian.

  10. Throttling connection to 256k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like how they think that after six strikes, throttling DL speeds to 256k will stop people form pirating.
    For the last week, my internet has been down. I've been relegated to connecting to my neighbour's WiFi down the block, using my cellphone as a dongle for my computer. With this set up, I'm only able to get DL speeds on Bittorrent of 125k max. I still have no trouble downloading several movies and TV shows in a day, one at a time. Browsing the web and streaming video isn't a problem either.

    1. Re:Throttling connection to 256k by m1ndcrash · · Score: 1

      Flashget had a built-in dialer; so, yeah, 256k won't do sweet fuck all.

  11. Full Encryption by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This will only speed up the race to fully encrypted comms.

    --
    Good-bye
    1. Re:Full Encryption by lgw · · Score: 1

      Freenet is just waiting for people to realize that strongly encrypted P2P is there and waiting for them.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    2. Re:Full Encryption by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Which will speed up the race to regulate the use of encryption. On their wire you will never get relief. The monopoly is cemented in place, encountering little to no resistance.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re:Full Encryption by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Except freenet is extreme-high-latency, unless you like to wait 2 minutes to view a simple text file, extremely resource-intensive, unsuitable for large file transfers.

    4. Re:Full Encryption by lgw · · Score: 1

      Freenet makes a poor web browser to be sure (but TOR is there for that. But for P2P file sharing latency isn't so important. From what I hear it's not so resource-intensive these days, execpt that you can't really leech as I understand it all, so maybe is is compared to leeching.

      Of course when I played with it there was nothing there and it was really slow, but that's just the fact no one used it. Darn network effect.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    5. Re:Full Encryption by rastoboy29 · · Score: 2

      Encryption doesn't help with this.

      Think about it.  How do they know you're sharing a file?  Because it was advertised as being available at your IP address.

      Encrypt all you like--that only helps with eavesdropping.

    6. Re:Full Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with it is that real security requires darknet mode. The question then becomes how you get access to the darknet. Since I am no longer in college, the chances of me running into anyone on the darknet are low or at least I perceive them that way. And if you pick the wrong friends, then it is no more secure than connecting to random bittorrent peers.

  12. Will be effective by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    The people with clue will not be affected, the people with not enough knowledge, in the other hand, will end being punished for doing things that they don't understand or see as possibly wrong, or even without doing anything, as being used as proxies or unsecure wifi access points.

    And considering what could be considered illegal this will be the perfect tool to put out of circulation inconvenient people or to push public opinion in the direction they want.

  13. Even the Government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't they know to write properly?

    In spanish we have a phrase: the "h" is mute (as it doesn't sound). People forget to write it where it belongs... but know the government too...

    The acronym is not CAS, it is

    C A S H

  14. force violators to take educational courses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    " force violators to take educational courses". where they can learn the 'company line'. I'll switch ISP's when one tries that shit with me, and when their are no ISP's to switch to, get away with as much as possible and make it a RULE to NOT purchase any IP media ever, regardless.

      A solution to this would be if everyone just stopped going to theaters and stopped buying movies for about 6-12 months, it would bankrupt all these corps and there wouldn't be a lobby to try to criminalize this stuff. Sure no new GOOD movies for a few months but startups would think differently until they too got to big for their britches.

    1. Re: force violators to take educational courses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A solution to this would be if everyone just stopped going to theaters and stopped buying movies for about 6-12 months

      Can't happen. The people who care already don't go to movies because nothing decent is getting produced while everyone else thinks that TV and movies are as necessary to life as air and water and therefore will do anything to keep it coming.

    2. Re: force violators to take educational courses by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...it would bankrupt all these corps...

      And they'll come back at you with, "You're putting people out of work!"

      Meanwhile, company officers will simply shift their portfolios, and write down the losses onto the smaller investors and the taxman.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re: force violators to take educational courses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can someone please tell me what, exactly, a class basically saying "you should use a password on your wi-fi" is going to do when someone breaks into your wireless network?

      Cos seriously, it's not that fucking hard. WEP is a fucking joke, and it wasn't that long ago that I saw some articles telling people to switch their routers to WEP so the wifi on their iPhone 5's wasn't total shit anymore. You know someone took that advice because they're stupid.

      WPA/WPA2 isn't exactly all that hard to break either, though it make take a couple extra days. Rainbow tables are your friend.

      Set it not to broadcast the SSID? Trivial to get around as well.

      Lock it down to specific MAC addresses? Won't be long till someone spoofs the MAC address.

      So seriously? What the fuck do you do?

    4. Re: force violators to take educational courses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The people who care already don't go to movies

      Lie.

      because nothing decent is getting produced

      Lie.

      everyone else thinks that TV and movies are as necessary to life as air and water and therefore will do anything to keep it coming.

      Lie.

    5. Re: force violators to take educational courses by Seumas · · Score: 1

      This law applies to the United States. What ISP are you going to be switching to? Your choices are not "this cable internet provider or that one" -- it's "the only cable company (15-30mbps, usually), or the only phone company's DSL (1mbps-ish, depending on the limited distance of your house), or whatever dial-up service still exists in your city".

    6. Re: force violators to take educational courses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " force violators to take educational courses" = Maoist re-education camps with capitalist veneer. It's still tyranny.

      Left-right is the political axis used by the ruling elite to neuter the masses. Liberty-tyanny is the true poiltical axis.

    7. Re: force violators to take educational courses by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      A solution to this would be if everyone just stopped going to theaters and stopped buying movies for about 6-12 months, it would bankrupt all these corps and there wouldn't be a lobby to try to criminalize this stuff

      Then they'll just lobby to make boycotting their businesses illegal.

      --
      Palm trees and 8
  15. Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now is the time to setup VPN servers and rent out access to those poor and repressed people =)

  16. For who is this? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The producers, artists and performers don't own the copyright. So for who was this again?

    1. Re:For who is this? by mill3d · · Score: 2, Informative

      Producers do own the copyright if they put out novel content, although that rarely happens outside of megacorps for the following reasons :

      It's useless to be based outside of major metro areas as all the crew talent is there. Major US cities and surrounding ares cost a lot to live in compared to the mid-west or anywhere else except western Europe ; that implies that crews have to get paid a minimum of $30k/year. As a US business, one MUST have all software licenses to operate without getting squashed by a lawsuit from media software companies, and depending on the type of artist and production a SINGLE licensed computer can cost anywhere from $10k to $25k+. Add network and server costs on top of that as the volume and size of the databases prevent them from being decentralized (see here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3355921&cid=42465107). Compared to the rest of the world, cost of living and licenses here make production costs the highest of everywhere else.

      So, in conclusion, piracy has two effects on my line of work : artist and technical crews get paid shit, have no benefits and will be quickly replaced by younger personnel in time because income gets eroded by downloads. And, on top of that, no-one else in the world has to worry about running unlicensed software, reducing costs by at least 50%. As a small upstarting digital media producer, I can't compete with that. Now, if fellow ./ers don't have a problem with megacorps and lawyers being the only people who can afford a living in the US, then by all means, keep pirating your content and software!

      --
      Nothing is enough for whom enough is too little - Confucius
    2. Re:For who is this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy they sold it to.

      Do like how you use the word "producers". If your "producers" were all of that, then they wouldn't need the publisher-producers.

      Call them pimps if you like, but fact is they have a lot of "artists" beating on the door to get into the harem. And with the internet the way it is now, we have enormously more options for "artists" who don't want to "sell out"(meaning only: hire a middleman), yet there's no shortage of "artists" beating on door.

      Where's my conclusion in all that? There isn't one. It's the real world, and it's real messy. Back off from your simpleton Us and Them karma-biscuit that moves nothing forward.

    3. Re:For who is this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      companies.
      Companies, companies, and those with money.

  17. So are they going to target all bittorrent users? by mark-t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because I'd have to say I have a problem with that.

    I don't use Bittorrent very often, but when I do, it's to download content that is entirely legitimate. I have to say that if they accuse you of infringing on copyright, you should be permitted to at the very least be able to say "No I didn't", and have that actually mean something.

  18. Due Process by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Obama Administration pressured ISPs into adopting this scheme. Now we get private enforcement of copyrights without the usual defenses against such. No government involvement, so no due process. People should be more worried about this than they really are, especially considering the government's involvement.

    --
    "In prison you just have to shut your eyes and take it. Here you have to shut your eyes and give it."
    1. Re:Due Process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, I can easily imagine a future scenario where repeated attempts to access 'copyrighted' material on a wikileaks website would cut your connection. The system will already be in place - just needs a tweak or two to "protect the children".

    2. Re:Due Process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Obama Administration pressured ISPs into adopting this scheme. Now we get private enforcement of copyrights without the usual defenses against such. No government involvement, so no due process. People should be more worried about this than they really are, especially considering the government's involvement.

      This should be modded using the Ackermann function for scaling.

    3. Re:Due Process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Obama Administration pressured ISPs into adopting this scheme. Now we get private enforcement of copyrights without the usual defenses against such. No government involvement, so no due process. People should be more worried about this than they really are, especially considering the government's involvement.

      So, if only the government were involved, we wouldn't have to worry, but because the government is involved, we have to worry?

      Make up your mind.

    4. Re:Due Process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its called Fascism.

    5. Re:Due Process by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 1

      So, if only the government were involved, we wouldn't have to worry, but because the government is involved, we have to worry?

      Government is not involved in enforcement actions under the copyright alert system, but it was very much involved in its establishment. Sorry if I misspoke.

      --
      "In prison you just have to shut your eyes and take it. Here you have to shut your eyes and give it."
    6. Re:Due Process by Seumas · · Score: 1

      The majority of people don't give a shit. As most people on the street how long a patent or copyright should be and they'll say "Forever! You did the work, nobody else should ever get to benefit from it!".

  19. Still worried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've never pirated anything. Whether you care to believe that, or not, is irrelevent to me.

    I'll be unsurprised if I am flagged as a pirate, though.

  20. Crawl by ShakaUVM · · Score: 4, Funny

    "... or slow their Internet speeds to a crawl."

    So, pretty much business as usual then?

  21. I have a one strike system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    one notice and I use a swedish vpn and verizon's marketing department doesn't get my data....oh well

    and since a year of vpn costs less than 2 new blu ray disks i come out pretty far ahead

    1. Re:I have a one strike system by letherial · · Score: 1

      I got one better, i get one strike and i start cracking all the WPS wireless routers around my neighborhood...its fucked up, but hey, ill get dirty np

  22. say "No I didn't" by twmcneil · · Score: 2

    Oh, you can do that.

    For $35.00 U.S.

    --
    "The ferrets, they're every where I tell you!"
  23. Oh noes, stick with hijacked corporate APs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh noes, stick with hijacked corporate APs so you don't get your residential neighbors in trouble. Wifi security is still a joke on 99% of deployed routers. This policy is so anti consumer, I can't wait to hear about the class action.

    1. Re:Oh noes, stick with hijacked corporate APs by HiThere · · Score: 1

      If I'm understanding the changes in the law in the last decade, a class action lawsuit is not very likely. If I'm understanding things properly, now a corporation can sue a class of people, but a class of people can't sue a corporation.

      I *do* hope that I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  24. Internet access is a public utility by Snufu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    like phone lines, water, and electricity. Would you accept an unelected corporate group like Hollywood policing your phone conversations and throttling the line if they didn't like what they overheard you saying? Or throttling your water supply if they objected to the flowers growing in your yard?

    Inform your elected officials. Make it clear that we will not tolerate these for-profit commercial groups invading our privacy and abusing public resources. Apply citizen utility rights to internet access.

    (By the way, expect small captured governments like New Zealand to bend to corporate influence, but how is this stuff not struck down in modern social leaning nations such as France?)

    1. Re:Internet access is a public utility by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

      As far as I understand, this is a US only thing. France is not affected by this particular law... though yeah, I don't get how the initial three strikes thing went as far as it did either. Good thing I live in the Netherlands, which might almost seem progressive on the copyright front if you don't watch the news too carefully.

    2. Re:Internet access is a public utility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CAS isn't a law (France's HADOPI is). This is just an agreement between Big Content and the five big ISPs. Entirely extrajudicial. Also, doesn't affect you; it's entirely contained in the U.S.

    3. Re:Internet access is a public utility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or throttling your water supply if they objected to the flowers growing in your yard?

      if monsanto could do that to farmers.. they would.

    4. Re:Internet access is a public utility by HiThere · · Score: 2

      I informed my elected senators, and they told me "Thank you for your opinion", and voted in favor of the Mickey Mouse copyright extension.

      I haven't trusted them since I started paying attention. But the only opposition with a chance to win is, I think, worse. Sometimes this means I vote third party, even though with the US election system this means I might as well not bother to vote. (The system is designed to support two, and only two, parties. A majority required would be different, but a plurality means that with three candidates, one candidate can win with 33.333333333334% of the votes. Instant Runoff or Condorcet voting would correct this problem, as would requiring a majority to win an election. But that's not the intent.)

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    5. Re:Internet access is a public utility by C0R1D4N · · Score: 1

      Get involved in your party primaries! Most primaries have an insurgent candidate and the very low voter turnout means a small dedicated force can beat the corporate sponsored party candidate. Especially in statewide offices.

    6. Re:Internet access is a public utility by HiThere · · Score: 1

      This is commonly recommended, but the incumbents have a nearly unbeatable advantage. It's much more effective to get involved at the local or state level. Even there, however, the expected payoff is negative. And even there there are entrenched interests with a large captive sector of support. Still, I've done that a few times with mixed results. Sometimes the person I supported didn't get elected, and other times they turned around and made deals that effectively betrayed their supporters. (Well, *some* of their supporters. The group I was a part of. Other interests were less affected.)

      The thing is, my opinions are those of an extreme minority. The average person is of only average intelligence, and the average smart person still has a focus on short term issues. And among those who are more of more than average intelligence AND focus on long term issues, there is a divergence of interests. This isn't usually a matter of incompatible interests, but a matter of different issues being considered of different importance. But it means that each of these splinters has more to gain by affiliating with someone who controlls a larger power block. But to such people, the splinter groups are tiny, and relatively unimportant. So they will change their stands on issues that I consider important without much concern, because they aren't offending anyone powerful enough to do anything about it. Basically, all I can do is withdraw my support. And it's not like any of the other candidates are any better. (I've been using generic terms that apply to ALL of the successful candidates that I've come into contact with.)

      Additionally, I don't enjoy politics. It's something I do out of duty. So if I'm not getting much support, it's quite likely that I'll just turn them off. (They turn me off without a qualm, after all.) I've got other things I need to do, that this is a situation that promises only a negative payoff.

      So. I vote. I (very) occasionally write a letter or occasionally sign a petition. Probably once or twice a day. And I notice that nobody with significant power pays any attention, no matter what they promissed while running.

      All that said, I'm moderately satisfied with my Representative, even though I consider both Senators nearly a total loss. (One of them could easily be worse, but is still bad enough that I give them both a negative rating.) The govenor could be worse, but is hardly good. Not as good as I expected when I voted for him, but probably better than his opponent would have been. (Faint praise indeed.)

      At the primary level I have never supported a candidate who got the nomination, so I don't know how bad they would have been if they did. Probably better than the people who got in, but again that's pretty faint praise.

      So you say I should devote more time and effort to this rigged losers game? Sorry, with the vote at plurality wins the game is rigged for the minor interests to lose. There's no particular reason for the candidates to compromise with minority interests, and coallitions don't work in this kind of game. Majority wins would be a different kind of game. So would instant runoff or Condorcet.

      N.B.: both instant runoff and Condorcet voting are essentially majority wins, but adapted to practicality so that one doesn't need to hold multiple rounds of voting.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  25. Why this is REALLY really stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    State of the art copyright 'protection' methods use signature databases. Companies acting as 'agents' on behalf of copyright 'owners' scan various forms of their clients 'property' to create signatures that can be tested against video/sound streams, or against packet streams intercepted at the ISP using 'deep packet inspection'.

    Now, here we are talking about the later- the ISP inspecting the 'signature' of data traffic to the users. Firstly, false positives will swamp the system. We have already seen have legal live video streams have been closed down by automated signature testing systems. But let us instead consider the 'valid' matches.

    To fight back, users will need packet streams that are unique to the user. While this is frequently described as 'end to end' encryption, simpler solutions also work. The 'deep packet' signature test fails if the data stream suffers ANY per user modification, and that can include a simple XORing of most of the packet via an XOR key at the head of the packet. This really isn't 'encryption' but data 'morphing' where the same data can have a massive number of different forms, confusing or defeating a 'signature' based approach.

    Data morphing can be done with near zero computational processing, unlike proper encryption. The goal is simply to ensure the same data has a vast number of different forms. And included 4-byte XOR key, for instance, has 4000 million variants, if memory serves, requiring this number of signatures in the database to dumbly recognise ONE packet.

    Now, today, governments benefit greatly from the mostly open nature of data transmitted across the net. Intelligence agencies must be doing their nut over useless proposals that simply have the effect of moving us ALL to obscured forms of net traffic. The new US system will ensure EVERYONE will come to the conclusion "I do not want my ISP sniffing my traffic".

    PS Automated (or Human) takedowns of non-live material can never work. If the worst comes to the worst, people will simply post encrypted 'zips' with no description, and tell people to "watch this space". Seven days later (or whatever), the password will be posted alongside a description of contents. Sure, this still allows the uploaders to be targeted, but their has NEVER been a time when uploaders were unable to be targeted.

    Since survey after survey shows that 'pirates' are also the biggest purchasers of 'legal' content, we already know that the solution is in providing the legal services people want (which means EVERYTHING available EVERYWHERE for use on ALL devices). The tech war should not be wasted on 'downloaders' but on finding better ways to get paid content available universally.

    1. Re:Why this is REALLY really stupid by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

      Six strikes doesn't use DPI, but I'm sure you enjoyed coming up with that elaborate fantasy about how to evade DPI.

    2. Re:Why this is REALLY really stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, here we are talking about the later- the ISP inspecting the 'signature' of data traffic to the users. Firstly, false positives will swamp the system. We have already seen have legal live video streams have been closed down by automated signature testing systems. But let us instead consider the 'valid' matches.

      Except no, that's not how this is working. This is based on what the copyright holders report to the ISP. In most cases it'll probably be from them monitoring the torrent swarm's IPs and reporting them to the ISPs. No it doesn't have the same issues as deep packet inspection, but it has an entirely different set of issues. Like the fact that the copyright holders can report whatever they want to the ISP with no oversight to ensure accuracy and with no cost to the copyright holder, and if the ISP customer wants to appeal it'll cost them a fee and the burden of proof is on them.

    3. Re:Why this is REALLY really stupid by lgw · · Score: 2

      Sure, this still allows the uploaders to be targeted, but their has NEVER been a time when uploaders were unable to be targeted.

      Freenet protects uploaders (actually better than downloaders, though it's quite strong both ways). Freenet is a fully cooked P2P network with strong encryption, lacking only a client as easy to use and configure as BT (c'm, free software movement!). Given the network effect (why use Freenet when there's no content there; why upload there when there are no users) I doubt people will make the switch untill they're forced off what works today, but if people really do start losing their connection over this crap ... Freenet is waiting.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    4. Re:Why this is REALLY really stupid by adolf · · Score: 1

      My question is this:

      If this is happening at the ISP level using deep packet inspection and a magic hash table, won't my exclusive use of encryption in BitTorrent be invisible to it?

    5. Re:Why this is REALLY really stupid by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Data morphing can be done with near zero computational processing, unlike proper encryption.

      What kind of CPU/Internet connection do you have? According to Anandtech's Bench, both an Intel 3770K and AMD FX-8350 can encrypt/decrypt >3GB/s - that's 24 Gbit/s. They could encrypt my measly 60 Mbit fiber line with both hands tied behind their backs, that is not the problem at all.

      --
      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
  26. I've heard that one before by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What were those, the famous last words of a few Anonymous script kiddies right before they got arrested?

    Finding someone who is "anonymous" on the Internet is hard, in the same way that cracking a new hardware-based DRM scheme is hard. It can take a lot of work, at least if you're the first person trying to do it, but ultimately trying to establish two-way communications over the Internet and yet remain completely anonymous is just as futile as trying to lock up content that you're also showing to someone. There may be many levels of indirection that are difficult to follow, but it's impossible to do what you actually need to do and yet still remain 100% safe from hostile activity.

    --
    If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
    1. Re:I've heard that one before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What were those, the famous last words of a few Anonymous script kiddies right before they got arrested?

      You mean those idiots who:

      1) Revealed themselves in other ways or used dodgy proxy services in the same country as the government they were pissing off
      2) Pissed off someone with tons of resources

      These companies are not the government. They are not magic.

      Finding someone who is "anonymous" on the Internet is hard

      Making it almost impossible for someone to find you is quite simple, though. It's just that a lot of these idiots make trivial mistakes.

    2. Re:I've heard that one before by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      I understand what you're saying, but just remember the old warning: you have to be lucky every time, and they only have to be lucky once. Everyone makes mistakes, even world class black hats, and most people ripping off the latest movie aren't world class black hats even if they think they're smart because they heard the terms "proxy" and "VPN" once.

      --
      If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
    3. Re:I've heard that one before by mysidia · · Score: 1

      It can take a lot of work, at least if you're the first person trying to do it, but ultimately trying to establish two-way communications over the Internet and yet remain completely anonymous is just as futile as trying to lock up content that you're also showing to someone.

      This is mostly because encrypted channels and point-to-point VPNs stick out like a sore thumb, if anyone has monitoring capabilities over a large number of hosts.

      This works because VPN hosts can be attacked/compromised, and there are not that many people using them.

      If every ordinary person uses a VPN frequently, then they don't stick out so much, and any individual's activities are even harder to distinguish in all the surrounding noise.

    4. Re:I've heard that one before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "you have to be lucky every time, and they only have to be lucky once."

      This is true when you are topping out the FBI's most wanted list.

      It is not true when you're just another pirate in a crowd of millions. You don't need to be lucky, then - you just need to be something other than the lowest-hanging fruit.

    5. Re:I've heard that one before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an imbecile if you think that "being anonymous regarding some passive BT monitoring system" and "being anonymous regarding pissing the FBI and engaging in clear criminal activity" is, in any way, similar.

      "Threat model"... look it up. Thank me later.

  27. Bend Over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd love for someone to explain to me how this isn't practically collusion. I am all eyes.

  28. Re:Mega or Usenet secret plan, or mass disobedienc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Encrypted connections to known usenet providers will probably get you "struck" the same as encrypted torrenting will, and everyone (according to the US Dept of Justice) who uses Mega is a pirate.

  29. Please don't let that happen -- not yet by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

    This will only speed up the race to fully encrypted comms.

    Which will promptly be declared illegal in itself and probably with worse penalties than the original copyright infringement, unless you're connecting to an organisation sufficiently rich to allow it like a bank or government. Consider the way that merely circumventing technical measures protecting a copyrighted work is enough to make your actions illegal in many countries now even if your actual use of the work would have otherwise been completely legal. Just mention something about terrorism or child pornography and add the copyright thing as a rider, and every bought-and-paid-for politician this side of Mars will be voting for it to protect the public or something.

    Copyright reform needs to happen before we get to everyone encrypting everything by default, or it's in danger of being the catalyst for something far worse than anything the **AA and their international brethren have ever done.

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    1. Re:Please don't let that happen -- not yet by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Copyright reform needs to happen before we get to everyone encrypting everything by default, or it's in danger of being the catalyst for something far worse than anything the **AA and their international brethren have ever done.

      We don't necessarily need copyright reform first.

      Encrypt everything by default, and allow nothing unencrypted, just needs to become default behavior in all operating systems, and become the de-facto standard, for everything, for security purposes, before anyone else can act.

      Before that can happen, we need broader DNSSEC adoption, and replacement of PKI, with DANE for initializing TLS sessions.

      And better interfaces for mutual authentication (no more form-based login with passwords sent to remote servers to login to websites).

    2. Re:Please don't let that happen -- not yet by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Encrypt everything by default, and allow nothing unencrypted, just needs to become default behavior in all operating systems, and become the de-facto standard, for everything, for security purposes, before anyone else can act.

      The trouble is, while passing good laws often requires a lot of time and debate, passing knee-jerk reactionary laws based on lobbying in technical fields that most legislators frankly don't understand can be done almost in moments. It's already a criminal offence here in the UK to refuse to hand over a password if the Powers That Be want to know what your encrypted communications say, and the law was widely criticised for (among other things) being about as black-and-white as you could possibly be. For example, minor details like whether the password you've been required to provide actually exists tend not to be relevant to any defence.

      So in my admittedly pessimistic view of how these things currently tend to work in practice, I don't see your "default behaviour in all operating systems" as being even remotely possible until the authorities and in particular the legislators are far, far more clued up on technical issues than most of them are today. Plausible preemptive countermeasures might include whoever first creates such an operating system being labelled an $EMOTIVE_THREAT and getting banned from trading/selling in the jurisdiction, anyone installing such an OS being labelled a criminal under those same knee-jerk blanket-ban laws I talked about before, or possibly more insidious things like Microsoft/Apple/etc. cutting a RIM-style deal where their "secure" systems weren't really secure at all (but of course any more secure/trustworthy platform like, say, Linux, is now an $EMOTIVE_THREAT, according to lots of "industry experts" probably indirectly funded by the aforementioned Microsoft/Apple/etc.).

      The basic problem with this whole situation is that there is no good answer that always works. There really are bad people in the world, and there really are legitimate reasons that security services would want to intercept their communications, so any argument for universally encrypting anything is always going to run into some degree of resistance for sensible reasons that few reasonable people would disagree with even if they might feel that on balance the costs outweigh the benefits. But as we've seen on many occasions already, such legitimate reasons are all too easily twisted into mere commercial power plays when governments and big business mix. Sadly, but honestly, I see no reason to expect anything better to happen as long as the political status quo in most of the western world remains.

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    3. Re:Please don't let that happen -- not yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's already a criminal offence here in the UK to refuse to hand over a password if the Powers That Be want to know what your encrypted communications say.

      The right to privacy, which includes the right to not hand one's passwords over to the government, ever, under any circumstances, is a fundamental human right.

      Another government passing a law to the contrary is criminal organization committing crimes against humanity.

      In any society, one has a right to expect that government officials and legal professionals will refuse to pass, enforce, or respect any law that violates human rights. This principle was established at Nuremberg.

    4. Re:Please don't let that happen -- not yet by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      The right to privacy, which includes the right to not hand one's passwords over to the government, ever, under any circumstances, is a fundamental human right.

      Not according to European human rights law, it's not.

      And even ignoring the legal position and looking at the ethical situation, things are never so clear cut: the "fundamental" rights of one individual can clash with other "fundamental" rights of another individual, and then some sort of balance must be found between them where inevitably at least one party's rights will not be fully respected.

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    5. Re:Please don't let that happen -- not yet by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      It's already a criminal offence here in the UK to refuse to hand over a password if the Powers That Be want to know what your encrypted communications say

      "Sure officer, here is the key. Oh it decrypts to gibberish? I must have transferred a few GB of random data on that day. I do that all the time."

      Would that work?

    6. Re:Please don't let that happen -- not yet by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      That depends on whether your goal is to spend the next couple of years in jail.

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  30. what triggers a strike? by WillgasM · · Score: 1

    If I've read right, this isn't the ISP detecting BT traffic or anything. The MAFIAA still has to find your IP and issue the alert. So as long as I'm keeping trackers proxied, using DHT, and blacklisting the copyright goons, does that mean no strikes?

    1. Re:what triggers a strike? by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Blacklists/blocklists are pretty useless and give a false sense of security. Chances are pretty unlikely that the RIAA is running honeypots or snooping around torrent trackers from their downtown office with the publicly known IPs.

    2. Re:what triggers a strike? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost they are using P2P to get Seeders ip address so you need to send all your traffic through a 3rd party

  31. Re:Mega or Usenet secret plan, or mass disobedienc by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

    Fortunately DtecNet can't see what Usenet providers you're connecting to. Oh wait, you don't have any idea how the six strikes system works and even if you did you'd just spout conspiracy theories anyway.

  32. Pure Kafka by DrJimbo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the 2nd fine article:

    If you feel "wrongly accused" then there is a $35 'review fee' to see precisely what you are accused of. It's refunded if you win, but if the Copyright Alert System is so sure of itself then why charge at all? Why not let individuals know what they are accused of without this stipulation that the fee is to stop "frivolous appeals?"

    You actually have to pay money to see what this non-government cabal is accusing you of? It costs them next to nothing to tell you what the exact accusation is. It's just a few more bytes in the warning email or in a web page linked to by the email. I could maybe understand having to pay a fee to contest the charges but it is truly Kafkaesque to have to pay a fee just to find out what the charges are.

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    1. Re:Pure Kafka by subanark · · Score: 1

      The reason for this is simple. If the told everyone what they were accused of, then someone gather these emails and determine what kind of piracy gets by, and what doesn't.

    2. Re:Pure Kafka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a pro bono attorney backed-up by the EFF and ACLU.
      File a lawsuit.
      Issue subpoenas.
      When they fail to produce, have the court find them in contempt.
      Profit.

    3. Re:Pure Kafka by Rougement · · Score: 1

      I'd love to learn more about the legality of this. How can they demand a fee in order to share the accusation with the accused?

    4. Re:Pure Kafka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Also MURDERERS and PAEDOS could mount a successful DEFENCE if they were given information about what they are accused of.

      Fucking liberals and their habeas bastard corpus. Execute first; due process later.

    5. Re:Pure Kafka by HiThere · · Score: 1

      That's because legally it's not the government doing the accusation, but a private entity. That the entity is acting as an agent for the government is considered not worth mentioning.

      Perhaps I've gotten too addicted to having an internet connection. It gives too much power into the hands of an unregulated monopoly (well, duopoly).

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  33. Re:What are you on? by Genda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    DUDE! That thing sticking outta the side of his head... is his tongue in his cheek... next you're supposed to laugh... and now we know why there are no savant comedians...

  34. Just get a VPN or VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have money and I'm willing to use it!

    I only want to have to deal with one thing though. I don't want a hulu, and a netflix, and an iTunes, an amazon, etc. I just want something that I can plug into my TV and just type in what I want and then watch/listen to it.

    Yeah, I get it. The content owners need to wheel and deal and figure out licensing and who can distribute what, etc. and whathave you. Well, guess what? I don't give a fuck. That's not my problem! And I'll be DAMNED if I have to watch advertising.

    Right now the only thing that fits the bill is an elaborate setup of open source & home grown software with usenet and bit torrent running in my piracy VM. I recently added a seedbox to the mix, so that bit torrent downloads happen on a server that I rent pretty much anonymously. End result is that me (or my wife) types in what we want in a little search box, (with some optional parameters for video quality, etc.) and a few minutes later what we want shows up in a folder. Works for movies, works for music, works for TV, and it works for auto-downloading TV shows as they air too. Usenet and seedbox cost money and it took some know-how to set up but it's cheaper than the netflix/hulu thing and the selection is as good as it'll ever get. Plus I don't have to watch ads.

    Our species needs new mental frameworks for dealing with information and ideas now that this internet thing has come along. Trying to regulate information sharing is doomed to fail if the information gets "out" onto the web. The sooner we, as a species, can come to grips with this, the better. I see myself as a pioneer in this new digital age.

    Join the revolution! Get a VPS, a VPN, a seedbox, or all of the above.

    1. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      I only want to have to deal with one thing though. I don't want a hulu, and a netflix, and an iTunes, an amazon, etc. I just want something that I can plug into my TV and just type in what I want and then watch/listen to it.

      Yeah, I get it. The content owners need to wheel and deal and figure out licensing and who can distribute what, etc. and whathave you. Well, guess what? I don't give a fuck. That's not my problem! And I'll be DAMNED if I have to watch advertising.


      Guess what? Your boss wants the same thing. Push a button, and quality stuff flies out of your mouth for free. Do you think they like paying you thousands of dollars a year? Hell no.
      Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. I fully agree that the current system needs major tweaking, and the current rulers of the content you seek are asshats. But 100% free to your eyeballs isn't the answer, either.

    2. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You hit the nail squarely on the head. These things have never change. See: religious tolerance, slavery, womans rights, racism, science, public utilities, justice, equality. Never happens without bloodshed and massive upheaval and public outcry, once it does happen and things reach an equilibrium it slowly corrodes in cycles. See tribes > Fiefdoms > Industry > Corporation. These are always initially beneficial for the group that adopts them, but eventually they turn in on themselves. Those that worked for the East India Trading company benefited greatly until such a time as there were alternative means to transport goods.

      These rich *IAA asshats are just seeing how far they can push us as a species before all out chaos and lawlessness happens. Their in collusion with the bankers and the lawmakers. And its only a matter of time.

      Unfortunately it is an evil at its core that is part of our human nature. As a young kid being picked on I wished the whole world to experience the feeling of powerlessness. But as a man I do not. This is the difference between us and the *IAA goons (all who are affiliated with them) and their banking buddies.

    3. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by lgw · · Score: 1

      Did you miss the first line of the post you're replying to? "I have money and I'm willing to use it."

      I concur with the GPP. Give me a service that presents all digitally-available movies and TV - all of them - for one monthly fee and as easy as pirating is now, an I'll pay it - even quite a steep fee. Heck, I pay for Netflix now and that streaming service is, frankly, crap (very little content,no client-side caching, and rewinding and FF are just terrible).

      Make this streaming shit work well, and make it easy, and I guarentee I'll pay more per month than I do right now!

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    4. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The parent poster's very first line: "I have money and I'm willing to use it!". Pay attention.

    5. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have money and I'm willing to use it!

      Did you not see his first line? It seems like he would be willing to pay for the access.

    6. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Did you miss the first line of the post you're replying to? "I have money and I'm willing to use it."

      And the entire rest of it was about seedboxes, VPNs, no advertising, torrents, Usenet. Setting up all of that costs time and money. But nothing in there about actually paying the content creators.

    7. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm all for paying the content creators.

      That said, I'm not particularly interested in delivering a profit to NFLX, GE, DIS, CMCSA, etc. shareholders... I mean, I'd love to give them my money if they had something that I wanted, but they don't provide anything that I want.

      Any discussion about the poor content creators (who are creating mostly crap these days) should start with how they are getting fucked by small group of giant corporations that own the media distribution systems. It sure as hell isn't piracy that's hurting the content creators. It's the content owners putting profits ahead of what the consumer would want if the consumer was even remotely aware of what is possible with computers and network technology today. Ironically, if the content owners gave the consumers what I've described that I want, they'd make way more money. They're just too greedy to see that. Short term, next quarter profits is the name of the game in the American corporate landscape.

      The whole situation is laughable.

    8. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by lgw · · Score: 1

      Any discussion about the poor content creators (who are creating mostly crap these days)

      Don't kid yourself, it's always been mostly crap. That's why I'd happily pay someone like Netflix or Amazon for a good recommendation engine, ratings system, and so on. But the content and non-BS streaming tech needs to be there too.

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    9. Re:Just get a VPN or VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      isn't this why you are pay a content provider, be it comcast, or roadrunner, to watch your shows, why they are increasing their tech to include being able to watch that show away from home, on your lappy, your tablet, your phone? It don't work yet in my neighborhood,but "someday?".

  35. Re:What are you on? by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 1

    or are you really that stupid?

    I sincerely hope you're just one-upping the tongue-in-cheekiness of the parent poster. It was so thick, people walking around my cubicle slowed to a crawl.

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  36. Clones in GNOME Games by tepples · · Score: 2

    Several video games come with Ubuntu, and some of these appear similar to popular non-free commercial games. If the owner of copyright in one of those games complains, then everyone who downloaded Ubuntu might be getting a nastygram.

  37. End of the Indy Film Industry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would be curious to see how this will effect the smaller movie production companies. Currently I have a subscription to Netflix but I admit I do stream and download more alternative content off the internetz, and also big budget Hollywood films. I still go to movies in the theater though, because I have always loved the experience. I can't imagine ever owning a cable TV ever again though, and there's only one video store left in my town. I do not like Apple or their products as I have had some bad experiences, so iTunes is out. I suppose I could rent content off Amazon, but I really doubt it has the variety of programs and movies available that there are in the wild. It's a strange situation, as I am a huge cinephile and I'm always the first to talk about movies past and present to friends and spread the word. I can't imagine I am the only one in this scenario. What will happen when people such as myself, who have become accustomed to having a huge reservoir of programming, especially stuff outside the mainstream at their fingertips for little or no cost are left out in the cold. Hmm... without the incredible word of mouth situation that the internet has given us, it seems like the Indy film industry is going to take a major hit. And that just sucks.

  38. Deep packet inspection is illegal search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Deep packet inspection is like someone opening your mail to see what sort of letter it contains. This is an illegal search. The ones performing the search don't even have any authority. An individual corporation like Comcast snooping through your connections is a wire tap being performed by a private party. I believe this is illegal activity and I would like to see Comcast sued in court over this. Who has a good lawyer and some money for this? Let's protect the right to privacy.

    P.S. Let's not get in to a bunch of paranoid "no privacy already" bullshit because we don't have to accept that reality. Don't allow yourself to be so apathetic. Illegal behavior can be prosecuted.

    P.P.S. Fuck CAPTCHA

  39. I didn't say it did, but it will. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Your reading comprehension skills match your knowledge of where the industry is going. 'Six Strikes' sets a precedent. When it doesn't work well enough, the industry will easily persuade politicians to force the ISPs to use methods already widely deployed by music/video streaming companies.

    Let me make this so simple, even you can understand. Takedowns at Youtube, for instance, began with copyright owners having to identify infringing work themselves, and then make direct appeals to Google. As soon as the principle was established that Google was aware of massive amounts of infringing content, and that removing this content with takedown requests was far too slow, various courts DEMANDED (note that word) that Google develop technology solutions that could automatically recognize infringing content from lists of data provided by the owners.

    Up to now, ISPs have acted as 'common carriers'- responsible for NOT knowing what traffic passes over their network. 'Six Strikes' reverses this position. Now the ISP is engaged in being a PARTY TO the process of identifying infringing content. Sooner or later, the ISPs will be obliged to use the same 'state of the art' as Google and others.

    Now DPI can take many forms. As used by the intelligence agencies, it is obviously about reconstructing the data streams in their entirety, using databases of all common protocols used by higher network layers. Anti-piracy DPI does NOT need this mega-expensive approach. Signature matching is a statistical method that looks for patterns in runs of bytes. I am interested why you are so determined to distract people from anti-piracy solutions currently being implemented by signature-matching software companies across the planet. I would guess you financially benefit from such work, and desperately hope your solutions can be mandated for use by ISPs before countermeasures become widespread.

    Of course, some might split-hairs as to whether signature matching counts as DPI, but that is irrelevant to my point.

    To be honest, you sound a lot like the people who shill forums telling people that the government has 'magic' tech that can recover properly erased hard-drive files, or retrieve files from smashed drives. Or like the shills that deny the government has DPI equipment attached to ALL networks provided by the major telecoms companies in the USA. Funny how people who shill to a common purpose will use completely opposite arguments when it serves their purpose. In reality the government will do whatever tech allows it to do within cost constraints UNLESS the people fight back.

    1. Re:I didn't say it did, but it will. by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

      Sooner or later, the ISPs will be obliged to use the same 'state of the art' as Google and others.

      That's a decent argument, although I am skeptical that anyone will be willing to pay for it. My complaint is just that your comment wasn't labeled as speculation and thus is likely to mislead people into thinking that six strikes already works that way.

    2. Re:I didn't say it did, but it will. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean noone will be willing to pay for it? The customer will pay for it, as always. I bet you said the same about the six strikes scheme and yet here we are in this thread discussing the reality of it.

  40. In AD 2101... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wait until they start using drones to enforce it....

  41. So do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Cancel your account.

    Oh, that would be an inconvenience to you? God forbid you should have to go without Facebook and Twitter for a while, and actually start living life the way it was meant to be lived. God forbid you should actually have to pick up the phone and CALL SOMEONE rather then leaving a message on somebodies virtual wall.

    Americans just don't fucking get it. Nothing will ever change unless you're willing to sacrifice stuff on your end to make a point. It's all just big talk and whining until something actually needs to be done, then everyone quickly adopts the mentality that "Oh someone else will take care of it for me".

    Seriously, if you don't have the balls to call up your ISP and tell them to fuck off (hint: if everyone did this, they'd change their views on these issues REALLY FAST), then shut the fuck up. You have no right to complain about this shit. Don't tell me you need the internet because you don't. The whole problem with your society is that you THINK you do, because corporations and companies love that kind of crap. "I need my Facebook, therefore I need internet, and since there's only one ISP that services me I have no choice if they decide to change their terms of service".

    Your entire society is ass backwards. You're so enslaved to the corporations it's hilarious in a sad kind of way. Companies think it's their right to have you as their customer, and that they can do whatever they want as a result. In reality, companies should think it's a privilege to have you as your customer because you're willing to pay them for something you see of value. If you don't like what they're selling then they need to know that you have the guts to go without it, because that will force them to change their services offered into something you find more palpable. This is the way it is in a good portion of the rest of the world.

    Grow some fucking balls and do it. Cancel your service. Make sure they know why. If you all do it, you'll figure out really quickly that you DO have the power to change things you don't like. Stop complaining about it on the internet and take action. And don't you dare tell me that you can't do it because you "need" internet or you "need" TV. Bullshit. At most, all you need is a phone line. Take the time you've saved from watching your stupid TV shows and surfing the internet and take up hiking or something. Stop being willful slaves to this kind of corporate idiocy.

    1. Re:So do something about it. by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Oh, that would be an inconvenience to you? God forbid you should have to go without Facebook and Twitter for a while, and actually start living life the way it was meant to be lived. God forbid you should actually have to pick up the phone and CALL SOMEONE rather then leaving a message on somebodies virtual wall.

      Of course you do realize there is far more to do on the internet than Facebook and Twitter, right? Suggesting that some individuals don't need the internet at all is absurd.

    2. Re:So do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this is a European socialist plot to get the U.S. off the Internet, it won't work. I need my Facebook.

    3. Re:So do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (also: Prisoner's Dilemma.)

    4. Re:So do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because whatever rat-fuck country you live in all the people are smart and everything is perfect. Fuck you and your high and mighty. I'll punch the glasses off of your stupid gay fucking face.

    5. Re:So do something about it. by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Yeah, why don't I just cancel my internet service? Granted, it's also my phone system. And I work full time from home, online. But hey, what kind of pussy am I if being unemployed and having no method of communication (you know, the "CALL SOMEONE" part), because it's an "inconvenience" for my prissy little baby self?

      Your post wins for possibly stupidest of this entire submission.

    6. Re:So do something about it. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      Cancel your account.

      Oh, that would be an inconvenience to you? God forbid you should have to go without Facebook and Twitter for a while, and actually start living life the way it was meant to be lived. God forbid you should actually have to pick up the phone and CALL SOMEONE rather then leaving a message on somebodies virtual wall.

      Americans just don't fucking get it...

      Offering to make my house payment, are we?

      ProTip: This is Slashdot, not Facebook. Many of us not only work from home, we're also employed doing something other than stuffing envelopes.

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    7. Re:So do something about it. by AlabamaCajun · · Score: 1

      I've done it with Verizon so far but the landline and TV are monopolies. Our congress sucks on the media and corporations thus we get this kind of crap to deal with. Unfortunately no one here seems to see the corporate control as a big thing while bashing any Democratic president in office. In fact most of the people I see regularly dance and sing to the fact corporations are people in the US as if that is great. I still love my country as about 60% of it's people are still good in the soul. It's the staunch rightwingers (that still think they are conservative) that are creating the biggest division. Freedom (An American dream that is only reserved for those that rip off the other 99%). For the word, any music I hear from unpaid for sources, If I like and listen to it I buy it.

  42. I can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait until my parents get one of these notices. I'm savvy enough to not really give a fuck unless I actually get throttled. I know the emails aren't personal and won't really think much of Comcast basically accusing me of breaking the law. My parents, on the other hand, will go full ballistic on Comcast at the first letter. How dare Comcast accuse them of this?

    And I'm not a lawyer, but there do seem to be a number of reasons and corporations to sue over the throttling of a connection where there is no actual infringement occuring.

    Meanwhile, real pirates will easily get around it.

    I really don't see this lasting long.

  43. Peerblock still somewhat viable? by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1

    Of course IP blacklists aren't 100% effective, but is Peerblock http://www.peerblock.com/ still a viable defense against known tracking agencies? - HEX

    1. Re:Peerblock still somewhat viable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course IP blacklists aren't 100% effective, but is Peerblock http://www.peerblock.com/ still a viable defense against known tracking agencies? - HEX

      Somewhat; from what I understand, the copyright cartels (and/or their contractors) primarily harvest IPs from public trackers (no idea if they collect from DHT/PEX, but nothing's stopping 'em), but direct communication with them provides stronger evidence against anyone they single out for persecution. I still recommend blocking unfriendly IPs.

          —cffrost [saving up-mods]

    2. Re:Peerblock still somewhat viable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Use PeerBlock too but use a VPN on top of it. If you want to get crazy use TOR too but I'd stick with just a VPN.

    3. Re:Peerblock still somewhat viable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, doesn't seem like anything has changed. This only effects how the ISP respond to infringement, copyright enforcers will still have to host rouge nodes to scour your favorite network in order to produce the required "evidence".

  44. Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article says, "get cut down to slower-than-molasses speeds of 256kbps". While my connection is in theory supposed to be much faster than that, in practice that sounds pretty close to the speed I actually get.

  45. Re:So are they going to target all bittorrent user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh but they did give you a chance to say "No I didn't" before. They just used your response as a means of self-incrimination and tried to sue you right afterwards.

    NOW, they just give you a chance to pay $35 upfront.

  46. final solution(to the censorship problem) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Of course, there are many ways around the Copyright Alert System", hmmm , like getting rid of the jews

  47. Re:What are you on? by Bitmanhome · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are you sure it's his tongue? Might be the antenna. They're not supposed to be visible, but some people have bad reactions to the materials.

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    Not that this wasn't entirely predictable.
  48. How about messing with your reps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Find your local gov rep and see if they have open wifi.
    Change your MAC.
    Download some pop "music" on their internet connection.

    Other ideas:
    Do similar things to neighbors of the rep; along with plenty of political stuff with their name on it.

    Find their IP address. UDP them bad traffic; they can drop it but the ISP may see them getting stuff and that might be enough.

    Find out how to report and protect your "IP" then use the process to punish anybody who downloads empty.gif images etc. I drew that empty.gif image! it took a lot of work to make a gif that is invisible and it solves many HTML problems ... all these websites are not paying me!!

    File claims against politicians for their use of clip art etc - which I bet often are violations.

    Spoof their IP on a public tracker as having 100% and seeding (but obviously not connecting to anybody successfully.)

    Distribute a linux.iso under a big movie name. class action.

  49. No, they have show exactly what you ripped off X6 by raymorris · · Score: 2

    No, it's after you get busted ripping other people off SIX TIMES. Someone who produces software or content, like myself, has to catch you stealing my work that I put my time into programing and file a complaint. I have to show exactly what software I wrote that you ripped off, when you did so, from where, etc. Then the ISP slows your connection so you can rip me off at a slower pace. Or, if you want the software I wrote, you can spend the $5 to buy it from me.

    Or, in the case of most of the software I write, you don't even have to buy it. It's free. All you have to is follow the GPL or Apache license that I give it to you under. I had to file a cease and desist against Plesk because they were pirating Apache licensed software I wrote. It's FREE! I'm GIVING it to you. Why the hell they were stealing free software I'll never understand. Just leave the license file in the package, how hard is that?

  50. Re:To be fair, it's you who is the dumb-ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Laws have already been passed which describe using Tor, and allowing exit-node ...........
    {I cant describe to much, because what i write here may be used against me in a future lawsuit}
    Beware of the NeoCons, for their desire is nothing short of absolute control.

    Bush 2000-2008{ Increase the U.S. national debt from 3-trillion to 12-trillion. So the U.S. government will eventually default on its loan. The British Royals and their private industry companies will persuade the American people that it's cheaper, and in the U.S. citizens best interest to allow the the British Royals{Neo-Cons} to provide the service. {All roads will be toll roads now, Nuclear reactors start selling souvenir pieces of uranium, make you believe somehow that coal is clean and black lung is good, charge you more money for a smaller quantity of food by making you believe that lower calories are good and reason enough to pay more, make the American people believe that by giving up their guns they are protecting the children, and have the American people believe that what Neo-cons means is "New Conservative" not "New Police", have the American people believe that they are not dumb-ass for allowing their country to be taken over by the Neo-Cons.}

  51. I'm expecting.... by DJ+Particle · · Score: 1

    ...BitTorrent client and tracker updates that report fake IP addresses, or if the packet inspection is going on at the local ISP level, reporting as another protocol or some other way of tricking the packer inspections.

    You know it's coming.

  52. Copyright PhDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now when will we get to see the first Doctor of Copyright Education?

  53. I would like to report ALL Pinterest users by popo · · Score: 1

    Ok great. How would I go about reporting all users of Pinterest, including all employees of Pinterest, Inc.? Let's start this program out with a bang just to point out the entire absurdity of selective enforcement on the Web.

    I think kicking it off with a million or so forced educational programs on the first day would bury this program pretty quickly.

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    1. Re:I would like to report ALL Pinterest users by flayzernax · · Score: 1

      To those of you cracking it up in the first few comments here, this program is only designed to convince the lowest classes and educated people of the U.S. that IP law is something criminal and beyond the realm of civil court.

      Its subtle psyops being enacted on the next generation of worker bee's of this nation. And when this 70% of the un-educated lazy population just move on with life and acknowledge this as the status quo, the IP companies are hoping to move on to stage 2.

  54. What about Games like Warcraft that use P2P by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 1

    Ok, so what about games like World of Warcraft which use a P2P system to distribute legit patches? I wonder if any P2P type traffic will be potential victim of this, or if they're specifically looking just at BitTorrent users?

    Oh waitaminute!!! According to WowWiki http://www.wowwiki.com/Blizzard_Downloader , the original Warcraft updater used BitTorrent code.

    So, will this system be able to distinquish between legitimate uses of BitTorrent and pirate uses? Am I in danger of being flagged when one or all of the three four computers in my house with the World of Warcraft client gets an update?

    Basically, I've never used a pirate BitTorrent... but I do have perfectly legal/allowed by the content holder BitTorrent traffic, so what are my chances of getting caught up in this (overly wide) dragnet?

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  55. NNTP by spanky_poppagasket · · Score: 1

    2. Switch over to Usenet or a similiar site..

    I never stopped using Usenet. When the ISPs killed off free access- most people didn't switch to a paid service like easynews or giganews and beginning circa 2008 there was definitely less diversity and obscurity in binaries posts. Maybe not easy to understand for every day users compared to torrents (formats, joiners, what to do with missing parts, etc.), but you're not uploading anything when you're downloading. Not to plug easynews, but they even have a web portal that joins all the parts for you and you can download everything at ISP speeds over HTTPS. Much better than dealing with trickle speeds you get from the more obscure torrents.

  56. This is how you kill your remaining customer base. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you make your customers think they are not anonymous on your service, and especially if you hit them with false positives, they are going to call you, complain, file formal complaints with the states attorney general, and ultimately leave for services that protect their rights. They will also do things such as, for example, using SeaMonkey which by default attempts to establish a HTTPS session with everyone, and you will also create demand for encryption products that hide both the application and the traffic going over the wire. SSL is pretty insecure, but what if everyone used IPSEC and encrypted the L4 transport securely? Aah...

    There's a humungous difference between aggressive enforcement of tautology and passive enforcement of the law.

  57. Re:To be fair, it's you who is the dumb-ass. by pspahn · · Score: 1

    Ehh.... what did he just say to us?

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  58. Re:So are they going to target all bittorrent user by Mozai · · Score: 1

    I'm reminded of the ISPs that shut out their own customers who were playing Blizzard's "World of Warcraft".... which uses bittorrent to distribute software patches among their subscribers.

  59. Use short wave radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Years ago, someone made a driver for linux that allowed one to transfer IP data packets using short wave radio. Thus, everyone out there tunes to a frequency and gets to see the network traffic. Since shortwave is mobile and doesn't go through routers, then no ISP or gov cop can 't monitor the traffic and slow it down. The only ways would be to jam the frequency.

    Me, I like the telegram dot-dash approach to network traffic .......

  60. Why not class action sue the ISP's? by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    The ISP is paid to provide a level of service. By reducing bandwidth they are reducing service. In conjunction prices should be reduced to match service. Seems like a clear issue for a class action.

    Furthermore it seems like the copyright holders are acting in collusion to control and exert monopolistic pressure over another industry. Seems like that should be grounds to sue.

  61. Re:No, they have show exactly what you ripped off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see you haven't actually read anything at all regarding the system. Good job. The "six strikes" refers to the six steps in the process. It can be initiated for a single infringement. But you'd know that if you knew, oh, anything at all.

  62. Tor by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    I suspect even using Tor will get you on this list, as counter-intuitive that may seem. Destroying privacy is the real driving force behind this system.

  63. VPN vr. Seed box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whats better? I have 25/5 U/D here at home, and a debian server set up with transmission, so either would be easy enough for me to set up. I can download a movie in about 7-15 min depending on the swarm size. how much would that slow down? We usually arent waiting for a movie but sometimes its nice to get it quick. What are peoples Experiences??