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U.S. Reps Chu and Coble Start Intellectual Property Caucus

cervesaebraciator writes "U.S. Representative Judy Chu (D-CA) will be starting a new caucus with the ostensible purpose of protecting the intellectual property rights of filmmakers, musicians and other artists. The new caucus, styled the Congressional Creative Rights Caucus, will be formed along with Rep. Howard Coble (R-NC). Chu's office released a statement, including the following: 'American innovation hinges on creativity – it is what allows our kids to dream big and our artists to create works that inspire us all. The jobs that result are thanks entirely to our willingness to foster creative talent, and an environment where it can thrive and prosper. [...] The Congressional Creative Rights Caucus will serve to educate Members of Congress and the general public about the importance of preserving and protecting the rights of the creative community in the U.S. American creators of motion pictures, music, software and other creative works rely on Congress to protect their copyrights, human rights, First Amendment rights and property rights.'"

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  1. And who will represent the people? by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The corporations?

    Eat a dick liars!

    1. Re:And who will represent the people? by White+Flame · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And what caucus will promote the Public Domain?

    2. Re:And who will represent the people? by flyneye · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Meanwhile, the people are educated by the people who are vastly not fooled.
      Unfortunately, these are the same people who also know the corruption of government, the lies of the media, that taxes buy votes, that marijuana is safe,that guns don't kill people, that doctors do kill people, the lottery is an idiot tax, the war is over corporate interests, black is not white, etc...

                But , it just doesn't matter, because the government will always tip to those who fill their individual retirement funds and promote their continued office.

                Tired of voting Repubmocrat tyranny yet or do we vote for business as usual next time? Are you one of the educated or just another drone that is part of the problem?

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    3. Re:And who will represent the people? by Stormthirst · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whilst I agree with your sentiments, the Democrats aren't really any much better. After all, which president was it that started killing Americans unconstitutionally? Oh yes, that would be a Democrat. At least the Democrats *say* they want to return to a slightly more reasonable tax regime in order to try and balance the books.

      Indeed, keeping it on topic with the story, isn't Judy Chu a Democrat? Do you really think this Congressional Creative Rights Caucus will do anything to protect the other half of the Intellectual Property rights - the Public Domain? I seriously doubt it.

    4. Re:And who will represent the people? by nametaken · · Score: 2

      At least the Democrats *say* they want to return to a slightly more reasonable tax regime in order to try and balance the books.

      Republican *say* they want to return to a slightly more reasonable tax regime, too. The problem is that neither actually do. One is "kill tax loopholes and reduce spending", both of which are legitimate ideas depending on where they're implemented, the other is "spend more to promote economic growth and increase taxes", which, depending on how it's implemented, also makes sense.

      If it weren't all bullshit political posturing, where two enemies were trying to preserve their voting records for reference in future elections, we'd get some arrangement that involves all of the above and be in pretty good shape in short order.

      But they bicker, we bicker, and nobody comes to a legitimate solution.

    5. Re:And who will represent the people? by bwcbwc · · Score: 2

      "...the Democrats aren't really any much better."

      Considering the caucus is sponsored by both a Democrat and a Republican, this demonstrates more of a talent for noticing the obvious, not insight. And the stuff about killing American citizens is pretty much off-topic.

      On the other hand, if 90% of people try to turn this into a partisan debate, even though it has both D and R members, maybe it's not so obvious to the illiteratti after all.

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    6. Re:And who will represent the people? by IBitOBear · · Score: 2

      Stupider than that... grandparent says "GOP aka Republicans"... so not only does he not know what the GOP is, he was unable to read the whole post.

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    7. Re:And who will represent the people? by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      He he. First thing I thought when I saw this headline was, "Somebody ought to go and start a Society for the Public Domain" already!

  2. It is all that America has left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With the outsourcing of jobs and the cheap labour of Asia/India replacing the manufacturing sector in the USA, what does it have left to export or create jobs with?

    You can't make a Hollywood blockbuster in China or India or South Africa, you can't outsource new music to India...

    But make no mistake about it, the word "preserve" here is code for "never allow into public domain."

    1. Re:It is all that America has left by Znork · · Score: 5, Insightful

      IP is ultimately a form of taxation and redistribution and as such it contributes to the general cost level of the economy. Saying that IPR is needed because the jobs are the only ones that don't get outsourced to cheaper countries is equivalent to saying that we need higher taxes to pay for government jobs that are the only ones that don't get oursourced.

      IPR simply makes an economy less competitive and is part of the reason why everything is too expensive to do in the west.

      And frankly I can't see any reason why blockbuster couldn't trivially be outsourced. The script for most films could probably be written by, eh, a script. Effects can certianly be done anywhere and I really doubt actors will last beyond the decade before they start getting replaced by rendered versions.

    2. Re:It is all that America has left by rossdee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Next they will be saying you can't make a Hollywood blockbuster in New Zealand

    3. Re:It is all that America has left by alexgieg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can't make a Hollywood blockbuster in China or India or South Africa, you can't outsource new music to India...

      Yet.

      CG technology is approaching full photo realism, including for simulated human actors. Voice simulation too is advancing enormously, just look at the most recent generation of the Vocaloid software line in Japan. In a few years all the pieces will be in place for any small CG studio in the world to produce entirely virtual Hollywood-level blockbusters indistinguishable from any "real" production. They won't be able to use the likeness of currently living famous actors, at least not if they plan to release in the US, but add a few more years of well crafted virtual actors reappearing and forging brand awareness and even that will be a moot point.

      Unless Hollywood discovers a way to out-innovate technological advances its prominence, a result mostly of the outrageous costs of state-of-the-art film making that so far only it could manage to fund, is a decline in the waiting.

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    4. Re:It is all that America has left by c0lo · · Score: 2

      You can't make a Hollywood blockbuster in China or India or South Africa, you can't outsource new music to India...

      You reckon?

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    5. Re:It is all that America has left by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      You can't make a Hollywood blockbuster in China or India or South Africa

      You don't say! Where do they make Hollywood blockbusters then? I just can't work it out...

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    6. Re:It is all that America has left by bbelt16ag · · Score: 2

      um, first off music can be made anywhere, All you need is a studio and the hardware. Both are getting cheaper by the day. They will be posted on you-tube and the like. Movies like a blockbuster are going to take awhile, but not forever. The tv shows are dying off, and you tube is taking over as well. They intelligent and creatives are making videos and getting money from these. They have the ability to be sponsored by commercial entities like PBS or CBS or who ever. Its the perfect medium to get your ideas out there. A boy in his basement say what he wants to the world and people can choose to listen or not. As far as moving stuff to china, India or Africa. The infrastructure is being built right now. They are no longer undeveloped, and third world. They are emerging into the first world. The next generation of Chinese, Indian, African, and who ever else are being taught in your systems of colleges now. We still have that at least for now, until they go back to their own countries..

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  3. No Hope, No Change by haruchai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    looks like the RIAA / MPAA is, once again, stepping up their game

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    1. Re:No Hope, No Change by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bingo. I was hoping that, even after seeing "(D-CA)", this would be someone talking about making IP laws sane.

      Nope.

      This is all about "strengthening" them because they're "ineffective."

      Really all you need to know is this bit from Rep. Chu's own press release:

      The motion picture industry has a strong economic presence in Rep. Chu's current district. According to the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), $437 million is paid by their member studios to local businesses, and almost 140,000 jobs are in direct film and television in Los Angeles County.

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    2. Re:No Hope, No Change by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True, but the voters are the ones to blame for this. Lobbyists can promote candidates, but they can't vote for them.

      I want to stress, by the way, that this isn't a republican or democrat thing and I'd hope to nip those blame games in the bud. The problem here is people not bothering to look at who they vote for. Among things that people vote for are this: whether it's a D or an R next to their name, whether or not their friends are voting for them, whether or not they like their appearance, or most recently the color of their skin (seriously, my sister voted for no reason other than she thought it would be good to have a black president.)

      If any of you have ever seen v for vendetta, he paints equal blame for an oppressive government on the citizens themselves. And that is exactly the thing - we're basically reaping what we've sown. And please, for gods sakes, don't go around telling people who they should vote for either. Tell them to either think for themselves about what they are voting for, or else do everybody else a favor and don't vote at all.

      If you want proof of this, just read slashdot. Not the articles, but the comments. It's pretty hard to find a liberal that is in favor of gun control, yet still they vote in droves for politicians who are in favor of gun control. It's hard to find a conservative that is in favor of big government, yet they still vote in droves for politicians that are in favor of big government. Quit voting for the god damn letter, and always second guess those advertisements that e.g. say Joe the politician voted against education funding when in reality the bill he voted against was aimed at something else entirely, but had education as an earmark.

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    3. Re:No Hope, No Change by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are ineffective. And the only way to make them effective in the age of the internet is to make them draconian. You can't hope to enforce a law against a crime so trivial to commit and commonplace if you need to worry about things like proof, verified evidence, a fair hearing or all the other things usually seen as legal rights. Just like you can't hope to stop people shareing memory sticks full of music with their friends unless you ban the technology to make those copies, or at least impose a penalty far out of proportion so you can ruin a few lives as examples to the rest of the population. That is the price of effective copyright, and I'm not willing to pay it.

    4. Re:No Hope, No Change by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was hoping that, even after seeing "(D-CA)", this would be someone talking about making IP laws sane.

      You got party affiliation wrong. It's Democrites who suck on MAFIAA's teat more. Repugnicants prefer big oil and military contractors; both parties are all-out whores to big finance.

      But really, the difference between these two parties is pretty cosmetic.

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    5. Re:No Hope, No Change by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I want to stress, by the way, that this isn't a republican or democrat thing and I'd hope to nip those blame games in the bud.

      Absolutely, it's not a Democrat thing nor a Republican thing. What it is is an entrenched corruption thing. For instance, a freshman congressman can show up bright-eyed and bushy-tailed for their first session, ready to debate the issues of the day, and will promptly find out that their own party leadership (who controls the agenda) will ignore them unless they raise $5 million for the party's congressional campaign fund. If they don't play the game, they don't get any kind of serious say in what's going on, and are doomed to life as a backbencher who's bills never make it into a committee hearing, much less a floor vote, and all the federal pork will move out of their district (creating unemployment), until they either give up and decide not to run again, or play ball.

      That's the game in Washington, and everyone is playing it, except possibly Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Angus King (I-ME). For those of you wondering why I left out Joe Lieberman (I-CT), it's because he may be nominally independent, but he's a major fundraiser for the Democrats, so they protect him from even the primary voters from Connecticut.

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    6. Re:No Hope, No Change by Jetra · · Score: 2

      Life plus 70 isn't enough? Where will they stop? Life of the Universe + a couple of centuries?

    7. Re:No Hope, No Change by jmichaelg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It doesn't matter who is voted into office, what matters is who is willing to pay for the campaign. It takes money to run for Congress and these creatures are acting no differently than their predecessors or successors.

      It takes a small number of people with a strong vested interest to fund a campaign when the opposition is not willing to fund an counter campaign. To wit

      Judy Chu, a Democrat, has raised $80,000 from people, pacs and companies associated with the movie industry.

      Howard Coble, a Republican, has raised $40,000 from the same sources.

      $120,000 tells you why these people are doing this. Slashdot isn't raising $120,000 against the legislation so it goes forward..

      This snippet sums it all up, "I've put in two calls to your PAC director, and I haven't received any return phone calls," the Congressman said, according to Williams. "Now why am I taking this meeting?" The minute he left the office, Williams called his PAC director, and she cut those checks. "

  4. I love good music by balsy2001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And good films. However, it is only possible to make money on those when people in other industries are employed and have disposable income. These jobs are secondary effects of others having money to spend on them. It is maslow's hierarchy of needs, if everyone else is broke they can't and won't buy the media. Some will turn to piracy and some will just do without. You can't create jobs or support an economy with a circle of media industry workers buying each others stuff. By necessity there needs to be other people involved. If the law makers wanted to help, they would work on improving the economy. With more disposable income in the hands of the masses, media sales would increase. If the media industry wanted to help they could improve the quality of their product and/or lower prices (I feel like there is not nearly as many good movies any more, but maybe it is just because I am getting older). While "strengthening" the IP protections of artists may prevent some people from pirating media, I don't think this is the big problem. I'm not sure I know any adults in the work force that pirate stuff. Most just buy the things that they think are worth the price and don't bother with the other stuff.

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    1. Re:I love good music by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

      While "strengthening" the IP protections of artists may prevent some people from pirating media

      I actually think that would just anger even more people.

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  5. Creativity ... right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "American innovation hinges on creativity â" it is what allows our kids to dream big ..."

    - and then pay royalties on those dreams. We can't let them kids steal those dreams. Think of the children!

  6. The very term "intellectual property" is misguided by cjonslashdot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nowhere in the US Constitution does it equate protections of rights pertaining to intellectual works as "property".

    The term "property" implies that it can be sold, that it can be inherited, that it can be owned - and owned by non-persons at that. Nowhere does the Constitution say these things, nor does it even use the term "property" in this context.

    Rather, it says that Congress shall have the power "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." And that is all it says on the matter.

    Note that it says "Authors and Inventors". It does not say businesses: if it had meant to include businesses, it would have said so, but the Constitution starts out with "We the People", and it is about the rights of people and the powers and limitations of government over those people (much less corporations or unions, which are not people: a group of persons is not a person any more than a human body is a cell). And note that the Constitution uses the term "exclusive Right": it does not use the term "property". A right is akin to a lease. It is not ownership of the object in question. Thus, in the term "intellectual property", the "property" is merely a lease of sorts granted to Authors and Inventors (people) - for a limited time. That does not automatically imply inheritance to me, nor does it automatically imply that it can be bought and sold as we assume that property can: those are extrapolations of the "rights" intended and we should question those extrapolations and not take them for granted: do they actually promote science and the useful arts? I therefore think that the term "intellectual property" implies extrapolations that might not have been intended.

    Copyright and patent law (these terms are also not in the Constitution) have made huge leaps beyond what the Constitution intended. That is why we are off track.

  7. Corporate interests by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do they realize that 99% of theses rules that corporations want will hurt artists, creators, etc. The record companies want to bring back the days where they can sell a million records and the band hardly gets enough money to buy a new van.

    A great but typical example of this would be the guy who wrote the book, "Nature of Code"(great book) he now gives people the option of buying his book online for a price you choose ranging from 0-10 dollars. Other than the transaction fee he gets 100% of the money resulting in his getting up to triple as much as he did when his previous book sold through a traditional publisher while the consumer gets it for 1/5th as much.

    I don't see any need to protect the traditional publisher one iota. If any new laws are needed they should be there to protect the little guy from the traditional publisher. But in this day of big money politics politicians aren't there anymore for the voter. If anything they seem annoyed when voters get their own act together and boot them out.

  8. Orwell would be proud by jbmartin6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    American innovation hinges on creativity

    so let's do everything we can to stifle it.

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    1. Re:Orwell would be proud by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In the past, America's greatness was a result of its vast natural resources. While those resources remain, they no longer seem so endless and are becoming increasingly hard to tap into, due to NIMBY syndrome and other factors. It is easier to look outside our own borders and take what we need from other nations, regardless of the cost in lives to the natives of those lands.

      In the past, America was great because it was open to new ideas. Its not that it necessarily had more ideas than anyone else, but a less rigid class-system - supported by a vast frontier that allowed anyone daring enough to remake themselves - fostered an environment where even the wackiest ideas could be considered... and some of those ideas bore fruit. But now, rich and wealthy, the nation is becoming increasingly conservative and close-minded to anything that might jeopardize the security of that wealth.

      In the past, America's manufacturing might was bolstered by a motivated workforce. The country was the factory of the world. But as cost-of-living increased, it became cheaper for all those jobs to migrate to other nations, and now whole cities once dedicated to industry lie in ruins.

      In the past, America was breadbasket to the world. More than just feeding ourselves, our fruits and grains were shipped out to the starving nations of the world. Now, thanks to plummeting shipping costs, it is oft-times cheaper to grow those plants in far-off lands and ship them back into the country. Meanwhile its heartlands become increasingly less productive from decades of overproduction and over-fertilization.

      In the past, America's strength was its highly-educated technicians and scientists, who created electronic marvels that changed the world. But now, these marvels have become commonplace, we sell our know-how to our erstwhile allies, and educate its own rivals. Meanwhile, its own children falter at the most basic tasks because their own education is hampered by backwards-looking fanatics.

      In the past, America was a noble beacon to the world, a land of opportunity and freedom. People thronged to America's shores, bringing with them their vitality and industry and bettering their adopted country with their skills. Today, that beacon is guttering as opportunity fades due to an increasingly classist society within the nation's borders, and unilateral actions without. If people come to the country, it is only to take what they can from the nation - education, resources, technology - before returning to their homelands, which reap the benefits.

      Why do American politicians and industrialists focus so much on IP law? Because, more and more, it is the only advantage the country has left! For one hundred years, America used its strengths to build up a huge war-chest of patents, copyrights and trademarks as one method to protect its interests. However, over the past few decades, other nations - China, India, Mexico, just to name a few - have stepped up to the plate and matched America in industrial output. America depends heavily on resources from other nations to keep its own faltering engine running. Its own workforce is no longer as competitive when compared to those in erstwhile "third world nations". Short-sighted politics squandered many other of its advantages. Those patents, copyrights and trademarks - once just a single weapon in its arsenal - are increasingly becoming America's /only/ strength.

      Sadly, like SCO, America is becoming a patent troll (and IP troll in general), relying on draconian enforcement of ethereal "intellectual property", because it cannot otherwise compete. It will increasingly sacrifice all else - industry, Constitutional rights, political allies - in the vain hope that somehow this single weapon of IP law can be sharpened enough to cut itself out of the draconian knot of political missteps that have caused its current economic malaise.

  9. Howard Coble: Copyright Term Extension is Good by jrincayc · · Score: 5, Informative

    Howard Coble stated that the Copyright Term Extension act (which retroactively extended copyright's terms by 20 years) was good for consumers: "It is also good for consumers. When works are protected by copyright, they attract investors who can exploit the work for profit. That, in turn, brings the work to the consumer who may enjoy it at a movie theater, at a home, in a car, or in a retail establishment. Without that exploitation, a work may lie dormant, never to be discovered or enjoyed." (Congressional Record, Volume 144, 1998, H1458 http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/citation.result.CREC.action?congressionalRecord.volume=144&congressionalRecord.pagePrefix=H&congressionalRecord.pageNumber=1458&publication=CREC )

    1. Re:Howard Coble: Copyright Term Extension is Good by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Coble is well-known as Public Enemy #3 when it comes to copyright, with Mary Bono Mack being #2 and Howard Berman at #1. Fortunately for us, Mack and Berman both lost during the last election, but Coble is still a very dangerous man in this regard.

      We can only hope that Zoe Lofgren will start a caucus in support of the rights of the public.

    2. Re:Howard Coble: Copyright Term Extension is Good by jrincayc · · Score: 2

      I agree that it would be good to have a caucus in support of rights of the public. I am also curious who are public enemies #4,#5 ... for copyright.

  10. I think people are misunderstanding the purpose by mark_reh · · Score: 5, Funny

    of setting up and announcing a task force of this type.

    Right now, the MPAA, RIAA, and other organizations that represent artists have a difficult time figuring out to whom they should make political donations in order to protect artists' rights. 450+ representatives and 100 senators- that means a lot of money has to be spread far and wide in order to have the desired outcome. By forming and announcing the existence of a group dedicated specifically to protecting artists' rights, this group of senators has provided a focal point for the flow of donations, easing the burden on contributing organizations and leaving more money for the artists whose works are going to be protected.

    The representatives should be applauded for their efforts to ensure that artists rights are protected and that there will be more money for those artists now that the lobbying groups will have to spend less to acquire that protection.

    1. Re:I think people are misunderstanding the purpose by Stormthirst · · Score: 2

      By forming and announcing the existence of a group dedicated specifically to protecting artists' rights, this group of senators has provided a focal point for the flow of donations, allowing the *AA to keep yet more of their ill gotten gains, whilst fucking over the artists whose works are going to be protected.

      FTFY

  11. Well by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As long as the U.S. provides for the time tested tried and proven methods of letting people freely experiment with building on existing ideas and technology it will be just fine. Woe be the day though when artists and inventors have a say in which direction the next generations creator's choose to take their ideas, for that will be the death of innovation in this nation.

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  12. Thread commentary, distilled by cellocgw · · Score: 2

    Hey, Chu and Coble: Fuck you and the horse you rod in on.

    All that needs to be said.

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  13. Re:The very term "intellectual property" is misgui by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

    It would be perverse indeed to assume that the founders intended a system where every copyright holder would have to own a publishing company. Because that is exactly what you are proposing.

    It was certainly NOT true under English law that this was the case, and there is no evidence that such was the intent of the founders to require this.

    The existing process in English law included the sale of the copyright to publishers, and in fact this process was encouraged by people like John Locke when the reform of Licensing led to the Statute of Anne.

  14. Re:The very term "intellectual property" is misgui by Stormthirst · · Score: 2

    Yeah, but corporations are people don't-ya-know

  15. Gosh I was worried by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 2

    Wow! This is what we needed. I'm so GLAD Congress has finally come to its senses and organized to protect the rights of a minority which has been so shortchanged and hard pressed. Next we really badly need a lobby for mega-yacht owners, they get such a raw deal.

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    1. Re:Gosh I was worried by Spectre · · Score: 2

      Wow! This is what we needed. I'm so GLAD Congress has finally come to its senses and organized to protect the rights of a minority which has been so shortchanged and hard pressed. Next we really badly need a lobby for mega-yacht owners, they get such a raw deal.

      The mega-yacht owners already have a group to protect them. It's a private union, though, your level of protection is determined by the amount of dues you pay under the table. That union is colloquially known as "congress".

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  16. Educating Chu & Coble: Lesson 1 by cmholm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Before Chu and Coble get too far into this propaganda exercise, they should educate themselves about the background for the culture they're presuming knowledge of:

    If the terms of the Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 were instead enacted in - say - 1920, a good portion of our current legacy of movies and music likely would not exist. Example: Walt Disney & company borrowed liberally from the works of the Brothers Grimm. If the brothers' estate had retained rights, would Walt been able to afford it? If the Grimm tales had become orphan works, with the rights holders unknown, would Walt have been able to proceed at all?

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  17. Ruh Roh by paiute · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds like our Congress has already been retrained to believe that copyright violations are a criminal matter to be prosecuted by the government rather than a civil disagreement to be adjudicated between private parties.

    Yeah, I'm being obvious. But it got me thinking: What civil matters are the next to become criminal through lobbying by corporations?

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  18. Be Serious by IBitOBear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This "represetation of the artists" will be the DRM and studios... I get your point about the public domain, but who is going to represent the _actual_ artists and other creatives?

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