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iOS 6.1.3 Beta 2 Patches evasi0n Jailbreak
hypnosec writes "Apple released iOS 6.1.3 beta 2 to developers, patching at least one of the vulnerabilities used by evasi0n thereby rendering the jailbreak tool useless — the time zone settings vulnerability. David Wang aka @planetbeing, has confirmed that iOS 6.1.3 beta 2 does patch one of the vulnerabilities that they exploited in their evasi0n tool."
Apple: Doing our best to remind you it's OUR gadget, not yours.
Unfortunately several releases of iOS have had some pretty bad bugs. The latest was a big battery drainer, for example. That's why sometimes upgrading is unavoidable. That being said most people just blindly accept updates as they come out.
Why is there so much outrage at this? Jailbreaking works by first finding bugs and vulnerabilities and then exploiting them. Yes, Apple is preventing jailbreaking, but they're also securing their OS.
Jailbreaking is done by exploiting security holes. If the holes are left, they'll be exploited by others for less noble means. There have been a couple of jailbreaks that merely involved visiting a web site. They must be patched.
I'm at a loss of words. Why jailbreak an iPhone when there are better phones out there that don't have nearly as many restrictions on them?
I recently picked up an iCade Jr for my iPhone 4S (thinkgeek had marked down on super sale back in January for like ten bucks), which I jumped at. Sadly the official Ion support only has a handful of decent games that are compatible with the Jr. and for whatever reason jailbreaking a 4S or an iPad 2 appears to be super hard due to the A5 chipset. Which is odd cause keep in mind both are well over a year+ old now. I've got an older iPhone 3GS laying around I could jailbreak but it won't run newer games nearly as well as my 4S. The only reason I'd love to jailbreak is so I could use MAME which Cydia has a shit ton more support for the iCade in terms of quantity of games, including many legit games I've purchased from the App Store like X-Men Arcade, Final Fantasy Tactics, etc. I've been waiting a long ass time for an iOS 6 jailbreak that works with the A5 chip, either tethered or non-tethered but none seem to ever get made :(
Aw Frell this
There are valid reasons against jail breaking. For Apple AND the user.
1. Minimising app piracy. (And don't tell me that that isn't a major reason for a lot of people)
2. Jail breaking removes several security barriers and exposes the phone to more risks. Yes there have been bug fixes/patches available on Cydia before official updates by Apple.
3. Support reasons. People who jb and then encounter problems may blame Apple and thereby tarnish the brand despite being themselves the cause of their problems.
4. Stability and performance. Lots of Cydia apps are seriously crap. Be honest. Yea there are some true shining gems. But a lot of turd too.
Jail breaking had its merits in the early days of iOS. But I don't think it's worth it any longer.
Care to inform me why anyone should update?
Actually, now is the time to update to iOS 6.1.1 while you still can. Once Apple pushes 6.1.2 out, they won't give out the keys so iTunes can install it.
The fact evasi0n only had a limited time window available was known, but Apple has ramped up the release between to devs and to everyone. It used to be about 1.5-2 months, now it's about a week.
This is just to let everyone running a slightly older version that now is the time to update to the latest jailbreakable OS, and to run Cydia so it grabs the keys using your devices SHSH blobs so you can restore to those versions later later.
If you're talking about Jailbreakme, I believe that exploit patched itself after jailbreaking the device.
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The Bible is like Wikipedia: written by a bunch of people and verifiable by questionable sources.
this doesn't do anything but breaking the ability to take over ownership of the device by the person who paid for it, right?
No, it patches bugs in their software.
Care to inform me why anyone should update?
Because you don't want possible open security exploits on your phone?
That is a pretty silly argument, unless in your world you expect everyone to have visited jailbreakme before they get served some malware, otherwise, yes, fixing the hole for everyone is a good idea before someone else takes advantage of it.
get with the program. I don't have a problem with a secured OS that can't be jailbroken.
But I do have a problem with the way in which Android offers compelling features that Apple doesn't—like applets that display information on the launcher screen, and a notification system that doesn't suck. All of which are only available to iOS through Cydia. Grrrr.
I also wish Apple would release a phablet-sized iPhone.
I'm caught between two worlds. I'm a Mac user and an iPad user and until recently an iPhone user. But I switched to Android because it did things that iOS simply doesn't do right now without jailbreaking (which I get tired of—I want OS updates *and* features, not a choice between the two), and because Apple seems dead set against a phone with a large display.
But now, with a Galaxy Note II, I'm stuck with the crashiness, laggishness, UI inconsistency, and comparatively crappy apps available for Android. It's a no-win situation.
There's no comparison between iOS and Android when it comes to UI consistency and the smoothness and transparency of the system, or the app store. iOS wins hands down, and it isn't even close.
But there's also no comparison between iOS and Android when it comes to features, flexibility, and form factor. Android wins hands down.
But I hate having to choose between these when it's clearly technically possible for humans to build a great device with great UI consistency, smoothness, and transparency, great apps, and great features, flexibility, and form factor.
As a user, it's like being caught in a battle between two self-centered idiots.
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
One thing that immediately springs to mind is that an app developer *could* theoretically, specify this as a minimum target OS, and it will not run on an earlier version, even if the application doesn't use any facilities not offered by earlier versions.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
I used to jailbreak during iOS 4-5 days. Spent a lot of time installing this or that tweak, feeling like such a cool "power user." Oh my, animated wallpaper and SSV Normandy replacing the words "AT&T" on the upper left corner of my screen. This or that tweak that let me access this or that feature with one less gesture than before.
What a freaking waste of time. And at what cost? Random applications written by anonymous people on the net running as root on your iPhone, with full access to your private data if they wanted it? You are putting yourself at extremely high risk by circumventing the iPhone's security and running all this closed source software as root.
Jailbreaking is a security nightmare, and you're not worthy of the term "power user" if you allow someone called chpwn or BigBoss to run closed source shit as root on your personal communication device. By the way, that jerk BigBoss wouldn't let me run his software if I blocked ads on my hosts file. WTF dude, let us live a little?
If you really want flexibility, at least go to Android, where they publish their source.
It finally took cold turkey---bought an iPhone 5 when it came out, with no jailbreak for months---to learn that I really like my iPhone the way God intended it: nice and stable and closed---and even if not 100% secure, still better than giving some random dude called p0sixninja full access to my device. I get more stuff done now---you know, real work that I need to get done for my real career and not messing with a half-assed implementation of Expose that causes my phone to reboot half the time (yeah---the instability and the random reboots are yet another downside of jailbreaking).
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But if you have a problem with a device that is a walled garden, why did you buy it?
If you buy DRMed content expecting it'll be cracked, that works, until it doesn't. Meanwhile, you bolster the financial argument for selling DRMed content by buying it. And you diminish the importance of offering unrestricted content.
If you buy a walled garden device expecting it'll be cracked, that works, until it doesn't. And again, you bolster the financial argument for selling walled garden devices.
And then after a while, you find that the DRM isn't being cracked so easy anymore. And the walled garden devices you have been buying stop being cracked so easy too, maybe at all. And meanwhile the devices you can control are gone, because no one bought them. Companies got the message they don't need to offer more open devices, and so they didn't.
If you want to be able to buy open devices in the future, buy open devices today. Don't buy closed devices and then complain when they are re-closed.
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Now, I have to admit I don't know TOO much about Apple gadgets,
Judging by 90% of the comments to any Apple story, that makes you the perfect person to take part in the discussion. In fact, it may be mandatory.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
What should someone do if they like the iPhone, but can't get AT&T?
Maybe pay the tiniest sliver of attention to the world so you can learn that the iPhone has come on all major US carriers (ie, AT&T and Verizon) for years now?
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4s 6.1.1 on au/kddi ok
4s 5 on softbank ok
4s 6.1.2 on softbank you have to stand under the radio relay to get 2 bars
seems to be a murder on the vodaphone network too
Yeah. Apple is ramping up releases in order to screw over jailbreakers.
Or, there was a bug with Exchange calendaring that caused iOS devices to fill up Exchange server drives by interpreting a meeting series with no end date quite literally. I sure can't figure out why they would want to push that out as fast as possible...
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
If you use Walmart Family mobile or the T-mobile bring your own phone plans you can access the APN settings. The problem is that i had to actually modify some plist (I don't even remember which one) and push it to the phone as a "restore" to fix incoming MMS. I haven't had to do that but once, even after multiple OS updates but it was a pain that first time. No jailbreak required.
Likewise, the next iPhone or iPad is going to have to offer some equally killer feature for me to give up my investment in Android. So how is it not a wash?
how much do you need to pay Apple to unlock an iPhone?
Do you mean unlock for other cellular carriers or unlock for other applications? Unlocking for other applications costs the price of a Mac on which to run recent Xcode plus $99 per year for the iOS developer license. Unlocking for other cellular carriers doesn't really apply in Apple's home country because all four major carriers (VZW, Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile) use slightly different radio interfaces.
If it is worth it for you to produce all this excess product in the hopes of getting people to pay you again it would be worth it to just unlock the machine for free after purchase.
It's called price discrimination. Sometimes it's cheaper to run only one production line and let the people who need more functionality subsidize the cost of providing a device for people who need less. It's the same reason that a game console devkit costs more than the retail console despite having the same hardware apart from a debug certificate.
That means that your product is now 75% waste. and thus could have been produced at 25% of the cost.
Not necessarily. In integrated circuit manufacturing, sometimes a manufacturer faces large fixed costs that overwhelm the difference in cost between producing an IC with more cores and one with fewer. These could be a cost to tool up the assembly line for a distinct model and a cost to package each IC.
Consider an app that allows users to develop simple video games, similar to WarioWare DIY for Nintendo DS, and share them with other users of the app. I don't see how it'd be allowed on Google Play because allowing users to share games that they have created would break the non-compete agreement not to offer an internal app store within an application.
Or consider an application that allows the user to play roulette. The iOS App Review Guidelines ban roulette applications, be they chat roulette or Russian roulette.
And that 16:10 is actually ideal for viewing A4 documents in portrait (full screen) or landscape (side-by-side), right?
A4 aspect ratio is 1.41, which is closer to the 1.33 (4:3) of an iPad mini than to the 1.60 (16:10) of a Nexus 7. Besides, Apple's home country uses even wider letter paper: 8.5 in by 11 in, or 1.29.
Or put another why - why do people choose Windows over Linux?
Because devices already running Windows are sold in stores. It's as if stores had rows and rows of iPhones and the only way to get an Android phone was mail order.
the market at work.
And whomever pulls their act together first will most assuredly get my business.
See how that works?
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
the latest version of Android. And I wasn't running the latest version of iOS when I switched because there wasn't yet a jailbreak for iOS 6 available (though there is now). I got tired of that game.
To some extent, your'e right—what's better, seeing no updates for your device (the Android risk, though not the certainty) or seeing updates around for months and months without being able to use them (because there's no jailbreak) but having to watch obsessively for a jailbreak because once it's released, you have two weeks to update to the latest version and jailbreak before Apple patches the vulnerability and stops signing vulnerable versions?
Maybe it all comes out in the wash. But add in the fact that those features are just *there* in whatever version of Android I'm using, latest or no, and that I can get a larger screen, and I decided to go Android.
And I have looked back...about every 10 minutes. And yet the advantages of iPhone are so tempered by disadvantages that I can't be bothered to switch back. In short, my general response to both platforms right now is a decided "meh," which is a damned shame considering the coolness of the technology's capabilities (I cut my teeth on computing when networks ran over AUI ports and operating systems shipped on DC600 cartridges—this stuff could be so damned more than it is right now, it's almost sick).
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
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Sure let me see what I can find for you. I still have the VM I used to modify the file, so I might be able to dig it up by hand if i can't find the exact forum I used that recommended the change. My brother has his wife's 4S on StraightTalk and he just borrowed my t-mobile SIM, changed the APN, and then everything worked. That is also a non-jail break option that works. That does have to be fixed every time you do a software update however (I have to set my t-mobile APN every update as well).
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So you are saying the person buying the device should not be given the choice of a walled-garden device?
If the majority of users choose a walled-garden device, a non-walled-garden device is likely to become cost prohibitive. This happened in video gaming a long time ago when the Super NES killed the Amiga, and it's also happened with tablets capable of running third-party applications that happen to be exclusive to iOS.
Apple is safer for not offering the choice.
Would Apple be even safer if the only developers of iOS apps were established companies with "financial stability" and "relevant industry experience"? Because that's what all three console makers require. In such a case, how would someone with an idea for an app and a working prototype on a non-walled-garden device break into the industry?
Please explain what makes the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 tablets worse than an iPad...
They came out later. This gave people a chance to buy an iPad and invest both their time and money in applications from the App Store that'll only work on an iPad. And all the well-marketed 4"-class Android devices are phones priced for use with a 24-month voice and data plan, not 4" tablets priced for use with W-Fi like the iPod touch.
$649 for a Mac plus $396 for a developer account over the four-year service life of a $329 device isn't exactly cheap.
True, Amazon Appstore on anything but a Kindle Fire requires turning on "Unknown sources" while downloading an application. But whenever an application is installed through the "Unknown sources" route, the user must first accept the permissions by clicking through a full-screen application. The user could just press Cancel to any application installer dialog box that Amazon Appstore didn't open.
when people freely pick between the two
What set-top gaming device or handheld gaming device with buttons should people "freely pick" if they happen to prefer not a walled garden? Or to put it another way: If a market has overwhelmingly chosen walled-garden devices, then on what device are developers of applications for these walled-garden devices supposed to learn?
A Smartphone is NOT a general purpose PC any more than a washing machine is.
So what general-purpose computer the same size as a smartphone should people be buying instead of a smartphone?
Tool.
What do Danny Carey, Adam Jones (not Pac-Man), Maynard James Keenan, and Justin Chancellor have to do with anything?
If you paid an unsubsidized full price
This would be true of every iPod touch, iPad mini, and iPad, any two-year-old iPhone, any iPhone sold by a prepaid carrier, and in fact all iPhones in some markets. Yet these devices still have the App Store lockdown unless one pays $649 for a Mac and $99 per year extra for the developer license.
If you want to be able to buy open devices in the future, buy open devices today.
Sure, we have Android now. But a lot of people have collections of paid apps dating back to the third quarter of 2008, when the iPhone 3G (first iPhone to ship with Apple's App Store) came out. At that time, what open device was the best practice? And an Android-powered competitor to the iPod touch didn't launch until Samsung brought out the Galaxy Player in October 2011, by which time the iPod touch had held a monopoly in 3 to 4 inch Wi-Fi tablets with an app store for three years.
What general-purpose computer the size of a coin should people be buying?
I'll assume you're referring to something the size of Java Card or Java Ring. The difference between those and a smartphone or 4" tablet is simple. Unlike a coin or anything else smaller than (say) a sixth-generation iPod nano, a smartphone or 4" tablet is big enough for meaningful UI. So how does it benefit the market to use cryptography to artificially restrict the general-purpose capability of computers just because the display is smaller than 11 inches diagonal?
Benefit the market? Are you new to capitalism?
Handheld computing, be it through handheld video game systems or through smartphones, has traditionally been a cartel. (Android has made some segments less of a cartel, but other segments still are, such as devices with physical buttons for the application's use.) Economists call a cartel an example of a market failure . Or is it your opinion that "market failure" is a contradiction?