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Smartphone Screen Real Estate: How Big Is Big Enough?

MojoKid writes "Aside from the terrible nickname (it sounds like a term for the spoiled offspring of fabulous people), phablets are somewhat controversial because they seem to be the epitome of inflated phone sizes. A lot of people wanted bigger, and this is 'bigger' to the extreme. A larger screen on a smartphone is attractive for obvious reasons, but surely there's a limit. So how big is too big? If you're not into parsing out the particulars of form factors and use cases, here's a really easy way to figure out if your phone or phablet is too big: Can you hold the device in one hand and 1) unlock the phone, 2) type out a text message with your thumb, and 3) adjust the volume with the rocker without using your other hand? If not, you might need a smaller phone."

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  1. I have a Galaxy Note by maroberts · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ..and it fits perfectly in my breast shirt pocket. I don't put phones in trouser/pants pockets ever since I broke a screen of one by doing so.

    I love the Note as its large display makes a great GPS device when in its car holder.
    The main thing I want in a smartphone now is enormous battery life as well as the features. I do miss the days when you could charge your phone once a week, but not so much I'm willing to go back to having a basic phone.

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    1. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by gigaherz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hope you place it with the screen towards you, at least. I don't know where they place the antennas nowadays, but I wouldn't want a device emitting microwaves onto my lungs/heart... nor my genitals, either.

    2. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by gigaherz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Forgot to say, disable broadband connections (stick to GSM) and WiFi unless you need them, turn down the screen brightness, and avoid having background tasks, specially those with constant internet connections (PUSH notifications use a single service for all the notifications, and it's server-initiated instead of polled, so they don't matter as much). You can triple the battery life that way.

    3. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by dintech · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry, it's going to be at least 3 years before phones get big enough to rub your genitals while you're on the phone. For now you have to do that yourself.

      In the meantime, enjoy this vision of the future.

      (Safe for Work)

    4. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by arkhan_jg · · Score: 5, Informative

      Me too. I keep it mostly in my suit jacket inside pocket most of the time, or my coat pocket when casual - I wear slacks instead of jeans, so it goes there (in a case) in summer.

      The bigger screen is glorious for email and web browsing - especially in landscape - going back to my old 4" galaxy s feels like using a toy phone now, it's just so small.

      I can unlock and text with my thumb if I want to (helllllo, swype and now swiftkey flow) and running on cyanogenmod 10.1 the thing is lovely and fast. I do tend to hold it in one hand and type with the other though. I use it more than my nexus 7, simply because I always have it with me, though the mini tablet is ideal for sofa browsing and meetings as it can still be held one handed but gives that bit more screen estate.

      I don't see myself going back to any smartphone that's significantly smaller than 5"; even the galaxy s3 (which is pretty large for a smartphone in its own right) is a bit small for my preference now.

      I guess it's what you use it for; mine is a full blown mini computer, complete with ssh client, that fits in my pocket. Mobile data is where it's at, and actual phone calls are a bit of a rarity. I can get two days out of my note no problem, because the battery is that much wider. Not sure I'd want it much thicker though, would make it harder to span your hand round it, even when you do have big-man hands like me. Just have to hope some of the promised battery tech improvements that keep showing up in research actually start ending up in real devices.

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    5. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You can triple the battery life that way.

      So... Three hours?

    6. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hear hear. I have a Galaxy Note N7000 and think its the best thing since sliced bread.

      I got it when it first came out, and from 2.3 to 4.0 to 4.1 each update has been amazing.

      I started out with a Sony Ericsson P900, P990i, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, HTC Sensation (which I loved) and then Galaxy Note.

      So my last 2 phones I kept getting bigger, and I never looked back.

      I keep my phone in my front jeans pocket and never had a problem with it being 'too large'. Though I must admit, any time I've seen someone holding my phone to their head on a call looked comical and so I guess I must look the same when I am talking on my phone. Oh well. :D

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    7. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      3 hours? Seriously? My Galaxy Note N7000 lasts 4 days - YES 4 DAYS - of a single charge.

      As long as you're not looking at your screen to check your facebook stream or w/e every 2 minutes your phone can acutally last a while.

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    8. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by gigaherz · · Score: 2

      From barely 20-22 hours "idle", to nearly 70, in my case.

    9. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by SillyPerson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Please mod parent up!
      Not because he had anything profound to say, but he spelled 'Hear, hear' correctly.
      (He forgot the comma, but I let that slide).

    10. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by maroberts · · Score: 2

      The phone that I broke in my pocket was a standard size phone. (Samsung G800 IIRC)

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    11. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by strikethree · · Score: 2

      I have a Galaxy Note as well and I love it. Almost the perfect size. Small enough to fit into a pocket and large enough to mostly use the web browser in fully functional mode.

      AFAIK, the camera does not work with Cyanogen Mod 10. Have they fixed that problem yet?

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    12. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by Xiph1980 · · Score: 2

      Hmm, I think current smartphones are far too big.
      I'd kill for a nicely sized 3.5" android phone like the HTC Rhyme, but then with the innards of a current smartphone, e.g. "high" resolution screen (minimally apple's 960x640), dual- or quad-core snapdragon, good battery life (minimally 2 days high usage), and bonus if it's a core android system, so nexus style, rootable, no proprietary stuff nor bloatware. Extra props if it has that water-proofing those new sony phones have.
      I don't really care about phones being 7.5mm thin, I don't mind having a few millimeters extra if that means I actually have a battery worth its salt, because realistically you don't really notice those two millimeters extra during usage. It's just a bragging thing between producers really. It's not like phones nowadays are the refrigerator models of ye olden days.

      If anything like that is thrown on the market, I'd buy it. Got a SGS2 now, but it's just a bit too large for my taste, and I doubt I'm the only one that thinks this.
      I really wonder why the producers don't offer real choice, instead of having 200 small and underpowered devices, and 10 oversized and nicely powered devices.

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    13. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by johnlcallaway · · Score: 2

      I stuck with my Skyrocket because I carry my phone in my front pants pocket. I lost my last one carrying it in my shirt pocket, It fell out in some cow field out around Portal, Arizona when I bent down to open a gate to drive through on an off road trip.

      My wife has a Galaxy Note, but she carries it in her purse. I tried it out in my front pants pocket, but I felt it was too big, so I'm staying put. She looked at the newest model, and it fits her purse so she is all about getting the new one now as soon as hers breaks. I foresee a misstep around the pool coming up when it gets warmer out....

      Different needs for different people. That's why we both prefer our Android phones to Apple, many styles and types to choose from instead of white or black.

      I did this test to figure out optimal size. We have a 42" TV, so I sat on the couch and held my phone out in front of me so that the relative width of both the TV and the phone was the same. It was a comfortable distance, which explains why I don't mind watching TV on the phones, even though the sound is much worse than a Dolby Surround system. However, I have to hold it within 4 inches of my face to make the screen the same relative size as my monitor. Which explains why I don't like to use it as a browser much. Based on that test, it would have to be two to three times as wide to make it useful for browsing. Plus typing on it still sucks when compared to a keyboard. At least for me, I type 75 words a minute. Glad I took 'typing' 30 years ago in high school....

      So I don't see much of a need to go bigger, until bigger is big enough to browse. Or is reasonable to use on glasses.

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    14. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope you place it with the screen towards you, at least. I don't know where they place the antennas nowadays, but I wouldn't want a device emitting microwaves onto my lungs/heart... nor my genitals, either.

      It's OK, I always keep a pack of cigarettes between the phone and my chest.

    15. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by pnutjam · · Score: 2

      Every time I bend over for my corporate overlords (or to pick up something) the phone falls out of my shirt pocket, so I use my trouser pocket.

    16. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

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    17. Re:I have a Galaxy Note by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As long as you're not looking at your screen to check your facebook stream or w/e every 2 minutes your phone can acutally last a while.

      So, the only way to extend battery life is to not use the battery? I can get 96+ idle hours on my iPhone if I really want to, but what's the point? An idle phone is nothing more than an expensive paperweight.

  2. Galaxy Note II would be the limit by a_hanso · · Score: 2

    I've played with the device quite a bit (I'm planning to buy one) and I think the Galaxy Note II would be about the limit for devices that need to fit into trouser pockets and can be held to the ear without looking like a clown.

    Unless future fashion changes to accommodate "handsets" and handsets become more about the functions other than voice calls.

    1. Re: Galaxy Note II would be the limit by Vanderhoth · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just got my a GalaXy Note ll two days ago. writing this with the stylist. Way better than typing. I was worried that hand writing was on its way out, but this is great.

    2. Re: Galaxy Note II would be the limit by a_hanso · · Score: 4, Funny

      writing this with the stylist. Way better than typing.

      Ouch. But I do agree with you.

    3. Re: Galaxy Note II would be the limit by itsdapead · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just got my a GalaXy Note ll two days ago. writing this with the stylist.

      Yes... we can tell :-)

      (Hint - try enabling 'complete recognition' - this is squirrelled away under Settings > Personal > Language and Input > Samsung keyboard > Handwriting - I find it more reliable and makes catching mistakes easier).

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  3. So... by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    You are saying we need to put a grip like a hand gun on it in the bottom right (or left) corner so you can hold it. Swipe an arch with your thumb and have all the text in a semi arch keyboard near the corner. Then we can have a 20" screen for our phone?

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  4. Presupposition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The criteria presuppose that you *want* to be able to use your phone with only one hand. I am mal-coordinated enough that I can only use my phone with two hands, no matter how big or small it is, so surely the criteria for me are: 1) does it fit in my pocket? 2) can I hold it up to my ear and make a telephone call comfortably? 3) can I hold it in one hand and use it with the other comfortably? 4) is the screen large enough that it can display what I want to see at a reasonable resolution?

  5. What?? by Cenan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can you hold the device in one hand and 1) unlock the phone, 2) type out a text message with your thumb, and 3) adjust the volume with the rocker without using your other hand? If not, you might need a smaller phone.

    None of the above points are arguments for/against screens of any size. All of those "problems" can be solved without even thinking about the size of the screen on a device.

    1) unlocking schemes for phones can take on any number of different forms, not all requiring you to swipe from edge to edge to unlock.

    2) usability of the virtual keyboard has nothing to do with screen size, but a matter of placing it in the correct location on the screen

    3) adjusting the volume on a phone has nothing to do with screen size, and everything to do with placement of the rocker button.

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    1. Re:What?? by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That may be part of the problem. People using iPhones aren't used to the idea that you can change basic features like lockscreens, keyboards, and have a variety of options for the physical layout of buttons, etc. The iPhone (and any other phone) involves a series of design choices and compromises and isn't going to be perfect for everybody. This is one of the big advantages of having multiple hardware providers and a more open OS. If it's not perfect for you, try something else.

    2. Re:What?? by Cenan · · Score: 2

      Well, I use my phone much like you describe, yet I fail to see how 2) applies to your situation.

      The size of the screen (barring screens that are too small) has nothing to do with the usability of the virtual keyboard. The placement and size of the keyboard on said screen does impact usability. On too small a screen you would have to do something like the old phone keyboards, with multiple letters on each button. Once a screen reaches a certain size you can use a full qwerty-type keyboard always, as long as you (the developer) do not assume that it needs to span the entire screen width at all times. The assumption that a keyboard needs to span the entire width of the screen is what is breaking usability for one handed typers, not the size of the screen.

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    3. Re:What?? by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 2

      Exactly. All of these points are completely subjective and some even lead me to believe the author is stuck mentally in the dumbphone era. I mean 2. wtf? This is something teens did in the early 2000's, texting with thumbs and even most of them did it with two thumbs. It'd probably need a _bigger_ screen to even be able to do this as my thumbs are large and I'd probably hit more than key most of the time.

      As of 1), I have an actual lock for my unlocking, aka a pattern as I'd really really really hate to lose my phone AND have all my personal information, accounts etc totally unprotected. I'd really don't understand why this doesn't worry more people.

      And 3 is a placement issue more than anything else, as parent already pointed out.

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    4. Re:What?? by Carewolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or you can show some mental flexibility, deal with the fact that not everything in the world has to be tailored to your particular quirks to be functional and adapt.

      Are you saying iPhone users are better at fitting the mold, adapting instead of changing the world?

      If you are, I would agree with you.

    5. Re:What?? by Sique · · Score: 2

      Yes, but for me typing with both thumbs, it makes sense to have the keyboard span the whole screen, otherwise the keys would be unnecessary small. A keyboard for me doesn't have the limit of a thumb's length, it can have the double width.

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    6. Re:What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's right. Grownups are too busy murdering each other over which invisible sky-daddy they follow or which village their great great great great great grandfather came from. They don't have time for petty tribal arguments.

    7. Re:What?? by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or you can show some mental flexibility, deal with the fact that not everything in the world has to be tailored to your particular quirks to be functional and adapt.

      Erm ... why? No really ... Why! The vast majority of accommodations we are talking about are software features. These are adjustments and settings which can be customised. Remember when it was announced that Vista would have a non-customisable startup sound? People went mental. To what extent are you willing to flex? Should all phones look and sound 100% identically? Should we all be forced to fit in one mould of a turleneck wearing sociopath?

      Maybe the vendors can show some flexibility. Some people like swipe to unlock, some like pin to unlock, some pattern unlock, some face detection, and some don't lock at all and pressing any button simply wakes the phone at the home screen. My phone gives me that choice, and why shouldn't it for a measly few lines of code.

    8. Re:What?? by lxs · · Score: 2

      Wow I thought that I owned an Android phone, turns out that I own an iPhone. The wisdom of the crowds is truly amazing. Just because I don't share your opinion doesn't automatically mean that I'm in the opposite camp.
      If you enjoy these pointless discussions you should visit the XKCD forums. The current comic has seven pages and counting on the proper way of writing down dates.

    9. Re:What?? by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

      "Apple: Free yourself from the tyranny of choice."

  6. YMMV by waddgodd · · Score: 2

    I grew up when a Trimline, so I expect a phone to take up a certain amount of space on my face when I'm talking. Given that "candy bar" phones are shrinking like nobody's business lately, phablets are where my comfort zone exists nowadays. I kinda want to have the pickup at least somewhere where my mouth is, and I'm not an alien being, so my mouth isn't behind my ear, and hinges break, so no clamshells for me. I've found that the 7" phablets are a nice fit on the face, if a bit wide for my taste.

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  7. As big as I need -Tablet Size by thatDBA · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those are some of the dumbest, most arbitrary reasons to tell someone their phone is too large - is he/she being paid by Apple? I want a phone with a screen large enough for me to read web pages comfortably and not need a tablet. I would be fine with a 7 inch phone - not everyone has the hand size and lifting strength of a teenage girl.

    1. Re:As big as I need -Tablet Size by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2

      I would be fine with a 7 inch phone

      Until you wanted to make a phone call. I can just barely hold my Kindle one handed phone-style (between thumb and fingers around vertical edges, and my hands are bigger than average. Your 7" phone would be like holding a Kindle to your face.

      Saying that, though, a mixture of Pebble /smart watch and Bluetooth headset might just tip me over into swapping from a phone with a big screen to a phablet / tablet with voice capability. That's a whole different question, though

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    2. Re:As big as I need -Tablet Size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm young and normal/cool/popular/whatever enough to use my phone as the marketing machine would probably want, and I have to tell you that people under 25 don't generally ever use the phone as a phone, and when they do it's either (a) for just a few seconds, or (b) on speaker phone. So as long as it fits in your pocket (although a lot of my friends just carry them in their bags, but then this is in college and I guess older people don't like messenger bags) without making you look like an asshole, who cares how big it is? Holding it in one hand to speak on it almost never comes up. Now one-handed texting/tweeting/etc is a different story, but people use their tabs to post to facebook and twitter during class all the time so the one- or two-handedness must not really be that important

  8. Stupid questions deserve stupid answers by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Too big" is when not enough people will want to buy it to make it worthwhile to produce.
    Anything else is just subjective.

    To me, a 9.7" tablet is too big, but iPad's continued sales prove that this is merely my subjective (minority) opinion.

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  9. Phone is for talking by billyswong · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The number ONE question should have been:

    Can you comfortably phone someone or receive phone call without resorting to earplug?

    1. Re:Phone is for talking by rikkards · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think the question they are answering is:
      Would you have a phone if your tablet was capable of making and receiving phone calls

  10. I'm a minority, kill me now by Torp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But the iPhone 4 is just the right size for me. The 5 feels already too long. I'm worried that if Apple jumps on the 'my phone is bigger than your phone' bandwagon I'll be left with no replacement, as all the Android small phones are el cheapo versions with slow hardware.
    Btw, I'm male, and I don't have particularly small hands. I can reach around a 4-4.3" screen with one hand, I just don't want one.

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    1. Re:I'm a minority, kill me now by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2

      Comparing a flagship Apple product to a mid-range Apple product. Good job. Here's 30 which are more comparable

      3.5" screen max, 512MB RAM, 1GHz CPU minimum, Android OS, available now. You can choose other options to suit you.

      If you're talking about features exclusive to the iPhone (Siri, Retina display, iTunes sync) then you're an idiot.

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    2. Re:I'm a minority, kill me now by kannibal_klown · · Score: 2

      Honestly, Retina isn't THAT huge of a deal. The Samsung Galaxy S3 has a larger screen WHILE at the same time keeping the dpi ALMOST at Retina's level.

  11. Meh. I've tried different phone sizes. by TigerPlish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My preference is still the iphone up through version 4. After that it gets bothersome to carry and use. I'm still reluctant to get a 5 with it's 1/2" longer screen. The old dimensions were just about perfect.

    I have a company-issued Galaxy SII. It sits unused on my kitchen counter, calls forwarded to my iphone. I can't stand the SII's size -- and it's really not that much larger than an old iphone - maybe 1/2" all around. I think it's excessively large. I used it almost exclusively for a month and gave up on it. This time any "cool" value of being "different" (android vs. ios, anyone else vs. apple) was destroyed by the way the phone feels in my hand and pocket. Sorry. It just doesn't work for me, and I honestly feel it's the extra size.

    It's not like I have tiny hands or anything -- and I'm sure everyone's different -- but I don't want a big phone. I'm sure there are others who think the same thing.

    As for the satnav argument presented before, meh and double meh. Why should I put up with the compromises of even a large phone when I have a perfectly good top-shelf TomTom with humongous screen and a speaker that makes itself extremely intelligible at 65% volume even with the music going fairly loudly? That's something neither of my phones can do. For every job, a proper tool, yes?

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  12. without looking by ssam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about another metric:
    Can you dial a useful number without looking at your phone?
    On a trusty old nokia 3310 (or similar) I could unlock, dial the last used, dial the top number in my phone book, dial emergency services and various other tasks without looking. There are few circumstances where this could be very useful (or save your life).

    I dont think i could do it on any smart phone.

    1. Re:without looking by k2r · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Can you dial a useful number without looking at your phone?

      "Siri, call Sam's business number!"

    2. Re:without looking by Chrisq · · Score: 2

      > Can you dial a useful number without looking at your phone?

      "Siri, call Sam's business number!"

      Unless you have an American accent:

      .... "do you mean Sam's in his humber?"

  13. size counts by secondhand_Buddah · · Score: 2

    I think that 15.6" with a fold out keyboard should just about do it.

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    1. Re:size counts by Fri13 · · Score: 2

      And it would be bonus if we could use them on lap instead always using some kind kickstand for them or hold them in hands.
      We could call them as toplaps...

  14. #4 by rikkards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    #4 Can you buy a bluetooth headpiece and pair it with your phablet?

    If so then the first 3 arguments are moot. I think most people who are buying them recognize that in most cases the "ablet" portion is more important for them than the "ph" portion but don't want to have a phone and a tablet.

  15. Nexus 4 - 4.7in - is as big as I would want by s7uar7 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Nexus 4 is my first touch-screen phone and I wouldn't want anything larger. I can just stretch my thumb across the whole screen while holding it with one hand; any larger and I would either need to use two hands or be prone to dropping it.

  16. What if... by itsdapead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What if phones came in a range of shapes and sizes so you could choose the size that suited you.

    If only we lived in such a world...

    NB: Samsung links for illustrative purposes only - different sized phones are available from other manufacturers - I believe Apple will sell you a rather fine phone if you believe that there is Only One True Phone Size. Odd, because Apple offer every other product line they do in a range of form factors...

    Seriously folks - the right size of phone depends on your personal priorities. If you're a heavy voice/txt user then maybe a smaller, thumb-friendly phone is for you. If you only send the occasional voice call or txt, but want web, email, navigation, games in your pocket then phablets are more attractive. The Galaxy Note II is about the minimum size to be useful with a stylus and/or split screen multitasking - but maybe you don't want to use those (Samsung's split-screen multitasking is impressive, but I admit that the only reason I ever use it is to show people how impressive it is...)

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  17. Who cares ? by obarthelemy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are phones of every size from 2" to 8" (and even 10" with a bit of hacking).

    Some people call a lot, some don't
    Some people text a lot, some don't
    Some people read a lot on their phones, some don't. And some have good eyesight, others not.
    Some people spend a lot of time in transit, some don't
    Some people have big hands, some don't

    There's a right size for every customer and use case.

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    1. Re:Who cares ? by ledow · · Score: 2

      And, personally, I'd be quite happy to have "just a phone" that was absolutely miniscule.

      What does a phone need? A way to connect a headset (Bluetooth), a way to answer an incoming call (a button on the headset, normally), and a way to dial a contact number (e.g. jogwheel and tiny 10-character display which can double up as caller-ID, but even a tiny watch-size LCD would be okay).

      Gimme a phone the size of the smallest iPod nano's and it's fulfilled its purpose.

      I'd rather carry that and then a phone-size tablet only for the times I need it, so long as the tablet can't auto-dial out (though using the Bluetooth to share a 3G connection on the nano-phone might be helpful occasionally) and the phone doesn't try and run games / apps / whatever.

      Feature creep makes us want to carry one thing that does everything well and that can cause problems (apps spending money, dialling out, interfering with calls, etc.). Gimme a nano-phone and, when I want it, a mini-tablet about the size of the smaller Galaxy handsets. Take the 3G etc. functions out of the tablet and let it do what it does best. Take the app-crap and touchscreens out of the phone and let it do what it does best.

      Hell, if you did it right, the pair could probably join together physically smaller than a conventional smartphone if you really wanted them to.

      I spend my working life managing computer devices that try to do everything and be everything. I'd much rather not have to deal with that in my personal life too, when I just want to make a phone call. Last time I picked up my phone, it told me that apps needed updating, an OS update was ready and it was running out of internal memory.

      Make computers computers, and make phones phones. Make them join, we have perfectly good protocols and cabling for that. But make them specialise in getting out of the user's damn way.

  18. Happy Note 2 owner here!! by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 3, Informative

    Last Xmas I gave myself a Galaxy Note 2, upgrading from an aging HD2. I'm a big screen whore so it was a no brainer.

    Yes, at first it's cumbersome and unwieldy and I took a couple weeks of daily usage to get used to it. All reviews pointed this out, so I knew what I was getting into.

    Now I can operate it one-handed (ok, I have big NBA-player hands) and it fits in any pocket if I remove the rubbery cover I got at DX.

    Any S3 or iPhone 5 is tiny by comparsion. I just don't see mysef going back to small screens.

  19. Please, please, please... by ex01 · · Score: 2

    Don't perpetuate that name. Yuck.

    ph***ets

  20. Interesting criteria by MDillenbeck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you're not into parsing out the particulars of form factors and use cases, here's a really easy way to figure out if your phone or phablet is too big: Can you hold the device in one hand and 1) unlock the phone, 2) type out a text message with your thumb, and 3) adjust the volume with the rocker without using your other hand? If not, you might need a smaller phone

    That is a big assumption on my usage. I do not typically use my Galaxy SIII one handed - I typically use it with both hands. What do I typically use my smartphone for?

    I text far more often now to communicate with family, but since I can't get a phone with an integrated keyboard and I have yet to custom build a case that holds a small bluetooth keyboard, I need a bigger screen - because I need buttons that fit the size of my short stubby fingers AND I have having only one or two lines of text displayed when typing.

    However, I far more often use my phone for internet browsing, reading Slashdot and Reddit, reading email, watching Netflix or Youtube videos on the go, checking weather, and as an alarm clock. My type of usage is becoming more common.

    (Oh, as to using Netflix on a phone I often get "why would you want to watch Netflix on such a tiny screen" to which I say "that's why I want a larger screen" - and then they say "why would anyone want a larger screen on a phone" and I say "because I mainly use it to watch Netflix and browse the web on the go or when on vacation." My coworkers mocked me getting a 3.8" smartphone as being "huge" - and yet within the year they all had 4" screens and didn't see a problem with it.)

    Next, all three aspects are not a function of the size of the smartphone but design decisions. You can place the volume rocker, the unlock, and make a one handed virtual thumb-board for texting on even the largest of devices - but you have to break the traditional model and move the stuff around. Why are the volume and power buttons towards the top of smartphones when people more often hold them towards the bottom? Why do virtual keyboards mimic physical ones rather than coming up with a novel and more functional layout for one handed usage? They don't have to be designed that way - there was an active choice.

    As to the Galaxy Note II (my next phone when I can afford it) - that uses a wacom pen input. As a long time user of what use to be called Tablet PCs but now are called either slates or convertable tablet PCs (as a coworker who now works at Microsoft insisted on since a tablet means an iPad styled device only to him and his Microsoft cohorts *rolls eyes*), I love a pen interface. What is more natural than writing a to-do list or taking a note with a pen? That is definitely not a one-handed activity, and thus there is no need to keep it to a size that is one-handed.

    Finally, the pocket issue. How many times do I have to hear this one? First it was we all needed Razrs or at least flip phones because the candybar form factor was too bulky for a pocket. Then physical keyboards or extended batteries made a phone too big for a pocket and too thick to hold in a hand... but nothing felt better then sliding out a keyboard and using my Galaxy S (and the SIII is so thin that a slide out keyboard really wouldn't have been that horrible to add). Now its the large screen makes them too big for all but cargo pants. I don't buy it - I have plenty of space in the pockets of my slacks or jeans with my SIII in a case - even with the "larger screen" (something I was told by coworkers would be too "unpocketable" but was a non-issue). I've looked at the Note II and it will fit fine also. Even if it didn't, then I could get pants with larger pockets - and I don't mean cargo pants. Again, a non-issue.

    CONCLUSION: With all that said about it being a design choice and preference - if a person finds a "phablet" like the Note II to be too big for them - that's fine. Just recognize it as a choice. I am saddened that those who want small flip phones and

  21. PC Replacement by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 2

    Keep in mind that for many people a smartphone will be their only computer. Personally (like many slashdotters) I have a dual monitored desktop, a 15" laptop, an iPad, an e-ink bookreader, and an iPhone. So I can pick the exact screen size I want to match my needs exactly; thus I want my smart phone to stay fairly small. But if I only had one screen and it were to be my smart phone I would want that screen to be bordering on the absurd. I wouldn't want to hold an iPad mini to my ear but pretty close. Plus get a bluetooth headset and you won't look like a dumbass with this brick up against your ear.

    So it makes total sense for people to get huge smartphones. People blah blah about the post PC era, which for joe non-technical is rapidly approaching. This post PC world will probably make larger screens quite logical.

    One other market is the Baby Boomer: With failing eyesight the bigger the better when it comes to screen/font sizes. "Oh I don't have the coolest phone? Don't care because I can read the screen."

  22. The 80's boombox reborn by EvilSS · · Score: 2

    I don't see any end in sight. I figure in two or three years we'll see people walking around with 27" phones on their shoulders.

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  23. I got tired of my iPhone 4 (smallness) by aussersterne · · Score: 2

    last year and sold it.

    For a full two months I just used my iPad 2 and Google Voice on speaker for phone calls (my longtime number was ported to my Google Voice account ages ago, so I didn't have to switch numbers or anything).

    I *strongly* considered just sticking to the iPad for phoning and being done with it.

    In the end, I decided to get a dedicated device, but screen size is a big deal for me—the iPhones are just too small. I was trying to decide between an iPad Mini and a Galaxy Note II as my primary phone.

    Finally decided on the Note.

    But I can totally see how for some people an iPad might be a perfectly acceptable phone.

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