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North Korea Threatens US With Preemptive Nuclear Strike

jppiiroinen writes "North Korea threatened the United States on Thursday with a preemptive nuclear strike, raising the level of rhetoric while the U.N. Security Council considers new sanctions against the reclusive country."

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  1. First strike! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You dead, yankee scum!

    1. Re:First strike! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      US responds with 300 unmanned DRONES ...

      Holy Moly, we successfully cloned Dennis Rodman 300 times?!?

    2. Re:First strike! by mabhatter654 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is that NK has an army of mostly soldiers, even HORSES still. That means they will be spread all over the field, so bombs and drones won't be very effective.

      They don't stand a chance of WINNING, but they will make a terrible mess of the South because the South has 100x more value of factories, industry, business, people than the North does. Any war is just going to be a slugfest the North trying to break as much as they can, while the South defends and bombs "dirt" because that's all the Norths got.

      The biggest problem is that the North will assuredly try to provoke China... That could put US and China troops accidentally shooting at each other...

    3. Re:First strike! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm pretty sure that the last time Korea's togetherness issues really came to the surface, the shooting between US and Chinese troops was hardly accidental...

    4. Re:First strike! by interval1066 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not likely. China is growing tired of Peyongyang's shenanigans. It was cute when China was a fervent marxist state and a major exporter of revolutionary insurgence. But China's come of age, is a major world power. They're finding N. Korea's crap annoying lately. China and the US' s economic futures are entwined for the near term, going to war over N. Korean nonsense doesn't seem likely to me. What's far more likely is the US getting involved in a dust up between Japan and China.

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    5. Re:First strike! by Xest · · Score: 5, Funny

      "But China's come of age, is a major world power. They're finding N. Korea's crap annoying lately."

      I like the idea of China's leaders putting it to Kim Jong Un exactly like this in a text message or something. Like a pair of teenage lovers that grew up together and grew apart.

      "Dear Kim, we're finding your crap annoying lately. Grow up."

    6. Re:First strike! by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Chinese have been itching to get back Japan. Specifically those aged 50 and older (whom have politically climbed to the top within the rank and file). Many younger Chinese don't "hate" the Japanese. But they are very nationalistic due to a boost in confidence from growing economic conditions. Of course, that generation has yet to feel the real impact war on the home front. Then again, same could be said of the US or Japan. Also worth mentioning is that the younger Japanese generation are also becoming nationalistic too. It's a giant recipe for a disaster that ought never happen. I believe war will breakout between China and Japan and we will get politically sucked into it if not out-right militarily.

      Two things need to happen.
      1. Japan needs to grow a pair and acknowledge their past unjust aggressions toward China, the invasion and make amends to the raping of nanking.
      2. China needs to just drop the pride thing and move on.

      I have a feeling none of that will occur.

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    7. Re:First strike! by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure China would step in and make sure NK behaves going forward, and reprimand and remove the current power structure.

      Retaliation would then mean war with China, as they claim NK as a new semi autonomous region within their borders.

      China would love the excuse to outright take NK.

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    8. Re:First strike! by bitt3n · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not likely. China is growing tired of Peyongyang's shenanigans.

      I think as diplomatic policy the US should start referring to their tricks as pyongyanigans.

  2. How long before.. by scsirob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How long will it take before an 'unfortunate accident' at one of these nuclear sites makes an end to their aspirations?

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    1. Re:How long before.. by m.ducharme · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Only as long as it takes to convince China that they need our purchasing power more than they need to protect the twerps in Pyongyang.

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    2. Re:How long before.. by shadowrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      would china really notice a million more people?

    3. Re:How long before.. by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Only as long as it takes to convince China that they need our purchasing power

      China's buyers aren't going anywhere soon. NK could nuke Seattle and we'd still be salivating for the latest iPhone, big-screen TV and salad shooter.

  3. The president should do an address by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Funny

    The president should make an address and announce the following message for Kim jong Un "Come at me bro".

  4. Rodman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whelp, guess obama and Jong Un aren't gonna have that lovely conversation about basketball I was oh-so waiting for. /sarcasm

  5. Well That Escalated Quickly by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative
    I didn't see any quotes from DPRK in the article so ... They're trying to influence a UN vote that happens today on the new set of sanctions (harshest yet) that the US has proposed and will most certainly be ushered in days after they were proposed. North Korea's statement:

    The statement said North Korea "strongly warns the U.N. Security Council not to make another big blunder like the one in the past when it earned the inveterate grudge of the Korean nation by acting as a war servant for the U.S. in 1950."

    It's their standard MO and I hope it doesn't affect the UN's resolution. Another quote from North Korea:

    "Since the United States is about to ignite a nuclear war, we will be exercising our right to a preemptive nuclear attack against the headquarters of the aggressor in order to protect our supreme interest," said the statement carried by the official KCNA news agency.

    More details from reuters on what the new sanctions mean as well as South Korea's push back.

    And I'm pretty much done with any Slashdot discussion on this since the apologists and "MAD is good" folks have been mighty thick on these past few news stories. We have entered into the era of "Hey everybody, we have nuclear weapons now do what we say or we will nuke you!" Like a teenage gang member who found his first handgun ...

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    1. Re:Well That Escalated Quickly by dmbasso · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, that's so easy! I hope you become general!

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    2. Re:Well That Escalated Quickly by poofmeisterp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow, that's so easy! I hope you become general!

      Yeah, that's a great idea. Attack them only when they're threatening with words so they have an excuse to say "YOU ATTACKED FIRST".

      Snap out of video game world and think about real life logic, please, when it comes to war.

    3. Re:Well That Escalated Quickly by jbolden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I assume by "you guys" you mean the United States.

      1) The USA was not the one that invaded in 1950, the North did.
      2) The USA ain't the one that is maintaining tensions. We've had lots of problems with countries since 1950 and most of them haven't lasted this long.

      I know you think its chic to be critical of the USA for everything. But given that neither South Korea nor China can bring North Korea up to even basic levels of decency like feeding their own population, maybe this isn't the best example case. By and large North Korea has acted provocatively trying to create military conflict in the years since the Korean war, to which the USA has not responded forcibly. North Korea is a good example of what the world would look like when the USA does not "bomb everyone".

  6. Why is it always the little guys? by Looker_Device · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Glorious Whatever,

    Look, little fella, I know you have something to prove and all, but really hope you didn't buy into your father's bullshit. Believe it or not the U.S. has absolutely no interest in restarting the Korean War. Frankly, we're kind of warred out right now. So please stick to playing basketball with Dennis Rodman and leave us out of your grandstanding and dick waving. We've already got enough of that at home.

    We'll be happy to keep sending you D-list celebrities if you'll just STFU.

    Yours truly,
    The American People

    P.S. I would point out the obvious fact that the U.S. will bomb your country back to the stone age if you try to attack anyone with nukes. But, looking at a satellite photo of the Korean peninsula at night, I'm not sure that would amount to much of a threat.

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  7. Re:Ignore them by MatrixCubed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many children do you know bear a racial hatred for Western culture that is bred and drilled into them, or are armed with nuclear warheads?

    It's exactly that arrogance that they are standing up against, however misplaced their aggressions are.

    There's no easy solution here; disarming them is impossible, making peace with them is impossible, talking sense into them is impossible, treading lightly and carrying a big stick seems to be the only safe alternative that doesn't cause us to descend into full military operation against them.

  8. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, they said that SINCE the US is about to start a nuclear war, they ARE going to make a preemptive strike. That sounds like a threat of action to me, regardless of the fact they make such statements every week or so.

  9. Will by mybeat · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Nuclear launch detected!" be followed by: "Battle-cruiser operational"?

  10. Re:Nope by m.ducharme · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, they are at war. There's a cease-fire in place, there's no fighting to speak of, but the Korean war hasn't actually ended.

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  11. The only thing to worry about... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...is if they're truly feeling suicidal or not.

    If you think that they could get through anything like that alive you're smoking something.

    It's not only the US or NATO that would strike either, it would be Russia and their buddies in China as well. There would be nothing left.

    Go read Dune. When one family uses "atomics" then everyone else combines and destroys them.

  12. Re:Nope by hamburger+lady · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Defending" yourself by striking first whenever you fabricate arbitrary threats is not defense, that is offense.

    how ironic that NK has adopted the Bush Doctrine.

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  13. Re:Nope by mjr167 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe they want us to invade so we will rebuild their country like we did in Iraq?

  14. the wtc was taken out with box cutters by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    do not underestimate the motivation, determination and creativity of those who intend you harm

    false alarmism is a well understood concept here on slashdot

    unfortunately, false complacency, equally dangerous, is not

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  15. Re:Blame your government by fuzzybunny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, you mean 70 years ago, five years before North Korea started the Korean War?

    Please tell the Germans they'd better announce the right for pre-emptive strikes on France in case that pesky Napoleon comes over the border again.

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  16. Re:Nope by godefroi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, your assertions regarding the French language are not supported by the evidence. As a fluent French speaker, trust me, you can be just as ambiguous in French as in English.

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  17. New UN Sanctions Were Unanimously Approved by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative
    Six minutes ago it was announced the new sanctions are approved. To those of you still following or interested in this, Reuters even updated one of the links in my original comment that you can now find here to read:

    UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. Security Council has voted unanimously for tough new sanctions to punish North Korea for its latest nuclear test, a move that sparked a furious Pyongyang to threaten a nuclear strike against the United States.

    The vote Thursday by the U.N.'s most powerful body on a resolution drafted by North Korea's closest ally, China, and the United States sends a powerful message to North Korea that the international community condemns its ballistic missile and nuclear tests — and its repeated violation of Security Council resolutions.

    The new sanctions are aimed at making it more difficult for North Korea to finance and obtain material for its weapons programs.

    I apologize for making it sound like the United States was the sole proposer of the new resolution -- I actually got that vibe from the DPRK press releases. I didn't know until I read this that China (at least is reported to have) co-authored them with the US.

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