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Cubans Evade Censorship By Exchanging Flash Drives

concealment sends this quote from an article about evading internet censorship with the sneakernet: "Dissident Cuban blogger Yoani Sanchez on Saturday told newspaper publishers from around the Western Hemisphere that 'nothing is changing' in Cuba’s ossified political system and that 'the situation of press freedom in my country is calamitous.' But Sanchez said underground blogs, digital portals and illicit e-magazines proliferate, passed around on removable computer drives known as memory sticks. The small computer memories, also known as flash drives or thumb drives, are dropped into friendly hands on buses and along street corners, offering a surprising number of Cubans access to information. 'Information circulates hand to hand through this wonderful gadget known as the memory stick,' Sanchez said, 'and it is difficult for the government to intercept them. I can't imagine that they can put a police officer on every corner to see who has a flash drive and who doesn't.'"

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  1. A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by pollarda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The delivery speed of these underground blogs is actually not bad. A memory stick with 64GB of material -- a whole library that would take a lifetime to read -- can be walked across town in less time than it would take to beam it across Cuba's slow Internet. What's more, it can be read at one's convenience is virtually impossible for someone to snoop and see what they are reading (ala Facebook / Google / Feds). It is amazing at how fast data is moved around nowadays compared to the last few thousand years For example, the KJV Bible is 4.35MB in size and it used to take the scribes a year to make a single copy. It would also cost a centurion's annual salary. (I studied Near Eastern Archeology in school.) Now, many times that amount of data can be copied in mere moments. An entire "subversive" library in Cuba can spread like wildfire even at walking speeds.

    1. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by deburg · · Score: 3

      ... the KJV Bible ... it used to take the scribes a year to make a single copy. It would also cost a centurion's annual salary.

      Eh? Wasn't the KJV Bible published in 1611? There were still Roman Centurion's then? Or are ye refering to the Byzantine (East Roman Empire)?

    2. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by blindbat · · Score: 4, Funny

      The centurion with access to the KJV would be an impressive story.

    3. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by pollarda · · Score: 1

      It is of course a translation of Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. That is what took a year to copy.

    4. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by jelizondo · · Score: 4, Informative

      At least check your facts pal... You know Google is your friend...

      Yoani was born in Cuba in 1975 and left the island in 2002; how's that for never lived in Cuba?

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    5. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      A bit silly, in a way... I've seen people devote huge effort to arguing over exactly what it was Jesus said or meant, analysing small details of phrasing in the greek, but they seem almost ashamed to admit that the greek text they have is itsself a translation. Jesus would have spoken in hebrew, but the words he said are long lost now.

    6. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by symbolset · · Score: 1

      This thread needs a Michael Hart reference.

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    7. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Which one?

    8. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by pollarda · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is actually a copy of Matthew in Hebrew and if appears as if the Greek text comes from it. It was preserved by a series of Jewish scholars who wrote nasty notes in the margins and they used it as they argued against Christianity. Little did they know they were preserving the last Hebrew manuscript of Matthew. Funny how life works.

    9. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was referring to a cylon centurion, of course.

    10. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      ... the KJV Bible ... it used to take the scribes a year to make a single copy. It would also cost a centurion's annual salary.

      Eh? Wasn't the KJV Bible published in 1611? There were still Roman Centurion's then? Or are ye refering to the Byzantine (East Roman Empire)?

      Obligatory local fundy quote:

      If the King James Bible was good enough for Moses, it's good enough for me!

    11. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by worf_mo · · Score: 2

      She also returned to Cuba in 2004 and has been living there ever since.

    12. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      but communism is the savior of the people!

      who needs truth, justice and the American way (let alone spirituality)

    13. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, you're cool and edgy! Mocking people's beliefs like that, man I wish I could be like you when you grow up.

    14. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      Hebrew wasn't the common language in Jesus' time. It was essentially only involved in religious ceremony. Aramaic was the local dialect.

    15. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      Now, look, I went after someone in a recent thread for attacking others' beliefs without a hint of self-awareness regarding their own, but quoting someone verbatim isn't mocking their beliefs. Their beliefs would have to be a mockery to begin with for that to work.

    16. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by dmbasso · · Score: 1

      Good, it would be a shame if the information was lost. It doesn't matter if all of it is bullshit, the historical value is what matters. And that's the reason I hate religions so much, because one of their main actions is to destroy their oppositor's written records (even nowadays).
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyed_libraries

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    17. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Noted. But it still wasn't greek, so the point remains.

    18. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      I wasn't trying to contravene your point, just inform.

    19. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      It's a mistake I won't make in future. I gather that hebrew and aramaic are somewhat similar - I'm sure a little wiki-checking after work will tell me exactly how they relate.

    20. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be => Michael S. Hart (1947–2011), American founder of Project Gutenberg

    21. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Jesus would have spoken in hebrew

      ObLinguisticPedant: Jesus, and most Judeans of His day, would have spoken Aramaic; in His case, a Galilean (North Judean) dialect. Hebrew wouldn't have been a colloquial language, but more of a religious and scholarly one, like Latin in Medieval Europe. Most of the New Testament was written in Koine Greek, but probably based on spoken Aramaic.

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    22. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm don't you think that Jesus would have spoken Aramaic ?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus

    23. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hebrew and Aramaic are not similar, but do have some common words that sound allmost the same . Arabic and Aramaic are more similar for instance.

    24. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

      Maybe he stayed in his mum's basement?

    25. Re:A Subversive Library at their Fingertips... by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

      I don't know, but I'd guess he meant Michael S. Hart, the founder of Project Gutenberg.

  2. Thesaurus game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How many word phrases do you know for a removable storage device?

    1. Re:Thesaurus game by Garridan · · Score: 2

      More like, why does a "news for nerds" site spend a third of a paragraph telling us what thumb drives are?

    2. Re:Thesaurus game by symbolset · · Score: 4, Funny

      Needs to be differentiated from uSDHC, which is what we modern subversives use - it can be hidden under a stamp, in a cheek,tucked in an unlikely place, or just left in the camera. Probably foolishly trying to hide their methods.

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  3. Message from Cuba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got this flash drive from a Cuban and was instructed to relay this message here.

    Hello my friends,
    I would have gotten first post if the stupid messenger got to the computer on time.

    Regards
    Anonymous Cuban

    1. Re:Message from Cuba by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Anonymous Cuban,

      We have your friend. He didn't want to give up your name at first, but after we broke a few of his fingers, he was able to provide us with a description and your whereabouts. We've decided not to pursue the matter, as trying to get first post on an imperialist dog's website isn't a problem for us. However, your friend would appreciate it if next time you didn't use his "no questions asked" courier service for such a trifling matter. When he gets out of jail in three years, you may wish to discuss this with him further.

      Thank you Comrade,

      The Cuban Government

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    2. Re:Message from Cuba by rvw · · Score: 1

      I got this flash drive from a Cuban and was instructed to relay this message here.

      Hello my friends,
      I would have gotten first post if the stupid messenger got to the computer on time.

      Regards
      Anonymous Cuban

      Did he run Linux?

    3. Re:Message from Cuba by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Dear Lisa,

      As I write this, I am very sad. Our president has been overthrown and replaced by the benevolent general Krull. All hail Krull and his glorious new regime!

      Sincerely,

      Little Girl.

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    4. Re:Message from Cuba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't run at all ... that's why our anonymous Cuban friend missed out on first post.

    5. Re:Message from Cuba by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      got this flash drive from a Cuban and was instructed to relay this message here.

      Well, mine said : "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope..." but then it glitched out.

  4. Spreading situation by alantus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With Venezuela's only remaining independent tv station stated to be sold to a government sympathizer next month, the country is going in the same direction as Cuba.

    1. Re:Spreading situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, a success story of socialism over capitalism.

      Hence both must be crushed.

    2. Re:Spreading situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're obviously not posting from Venezuela.

  5. TrueCrypt? by HTMLSpinnr · · Score: 1

    Despite export controls, one has to wonder if they'd be better off protecting themselves w/ encryption on these drives, in case of undesired interception. It's unfortunate that encryption bans can't distinguish between malicious government intent and citizens avoiding the restrictions applied by the same oppressive government.

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    1. Re:TrueCrypt? by Githaron · · Score: 2

      I am pretty sure a oppressive government would have no issue making the ownership of encrypted media a capital offense.

    2. Re:TrueCrypt? by Githaron · · Score: 1

      Also, obligatory.

    3. Re:TrueCrypt? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      If a popular OS/distro encrypts a container file by default, that interrogation method becomes less effective.

      Hence the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/148440

      It could be layered - for instance the entire drive can be optionally encrypted. But the container file is always created and encrypted by default (unless you specifically deselect it).

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    4. Re:TrueCrypt? by isilrion · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Cuban here (though I'm no longer in Cuba).

      Be aware that Yoani is not real. Yes, the person exists, but her "opinions" are all paid for (or at least seeking a reward). She does not represent the views or the reality of the Cubans. She is not interested in giving Cubans access to information, she - just like the Cuban government - is at most interested in giving them access to propaganda. It is very hard to get access to information, because everyone wants to pick and chose what to give you. If you read her blog, you will probably notice this... almost poetic posts full of half truths in which any "good" thing is left unsaid.

      This is one of the examples. It is true that sneakernet is a major way of exchanging data. It is even encouraged. One time, a government official, in a sickening display of ignorance, stated something along the lines of "everyone can access the internet, they just have to go to a library, ask what they want to know, and the librarian will download the webpage to a floppy". I used to carry not only usb drives, sometimes even up to 3 hard disks, in my pockets. Bringing a hard disk to a university, looking for an IT person and getting him to open one of the computers to insert the hard disk and copy everything they had was a regular occurrence. I was one of those IT persons... my desktop computer was permanently open, until we got an external enclosure just for that purpose. I tried once to set up a couple of "sneakernet stations" so people could come in, explore the ftp servers and download everything they wanted. You don't need encryption, unless what you are transporting is really illegal (a foreign news article is not illegal, child porn is) and you are high profile enough that the police may want to go through the effort of checking your data (unlikely, most don't even know what "data" is).

      That said, encryption is illegal[1]. So one could argue that using encryption is more risky than not using it: a news article critical of the government is not illegal, the same news article encrypted is. This is moot, however... it is very unlikely that your data will be checked either way. I carried some data encrypted, mostly password lists or ssh private keys - it would have been highly irresponsible to carry my employer's data in plaintext. Of course, if you are carrying around your accounting book detailing how the CIA is paying you... you probably want to encrypt that, or even better, don't carry it around.

      Regarding the export controls: probably the only area in which they are completely ineffective is in software and data. No one in Cuba cares about that. Copyright is ignored to the point that movies and TV shows shown in national television were torrented + "sneakerneted" to the TV station[2]. Same happens with software (to the despair of f/oss advocates). This is the main content of the underground networks: software, music, music videos, movies and tv shows. My hard disks used to contain a mirror of Debian and Ubuntu... and a copy of 1984 and Animal Farm that I was reading at the time, downloaded from the university's ftp server.

      (I'm not defending the illegality of encryption, or the export controls, or that the police and the prosecution have too much power and that they can use their ignorance against you... Nor am I saying that it is ok because some of it is also a problem in the US. I am also not defending censorship. I'm just pointing out how deceitful Yoani is, and using the post to explain that the reasons encryption is not wildly used have nothing to do with the US export ban.)

      [1] In very silly ways. For instance, to renew the "networking license" for the university, I had to state that no encryption was used, even though using https and ssh instead of telnet was mandatory to get that license. I know, I once stated "Yes, we use encryption, e.g: ssh, https,..." and the license was denied until I submitted the same form without that sentence.

      [2] Funny anecdote, when The Fellowship of the Ring first arrived at the university network about 2 weeks after the release, I added a tiny mark during the opening credits, just to check how far it would spread... When it was shown on TV, I looked for that mark... and there it was.

    5. Re:TrueCrypt? by Githaron · · Score: 2

      I am confused. At some point, to decrypt you need a key. This could be using biometric, a password, a keycard, a thumbdrive, built-in hardware storage, etc. If the valid users do not have the ability to decrypt the contents, then the encryption would be worthless.

    6. Re:TrueCrypt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the whole point of the feature. Read the WHOLE thing again:

      2) The installer must also use the crypto tools to create a container file (with a random passphrase that's discarded immediately) with size (for example) of 1% of free partition space (up to max of 1GB) .
      3) It must also be easily possible to reuse that container file with a different passphrase without changing the container's metadata or that of the directory it is in.

      2) is by default when people don't use it
      3) is when people actually use it. The container will change but the modified date etc won't change. Nor should its use be logged anywhere, no history kept.

      If you do it right it is very hard for other people to figure out whether you are doing 2) or 3).

      And therefore it solves the xkcd/rubberhose/wrench problem since there would be thousands (millions?) of people that will never be able to decrypt the container file (they've never used it!), and so you can't keep hitting all of them. Whether you are using it or not you all say the same thing "What are you talking about?".

    7. Re:TrueCrypt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....the cyberpunk lifestyle is real. I just need to move to Cuba now.

    8. Re:TrueCrypt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [2] Funny anecdote, when The Fellowship of the Ring first arrived at the university network about 2 weeks after the release, I added a tiny mark during the opening credits, just to check how far it would spread... When it was shown on TV, I looked for that mark... and there it was.

      Reminds me of the first leaked copy of the movie "Pan's Labyrinth". It contained a watermark that only existed in the copy submitted to the Mexican copyright registry.

    9. Re:TrueCrypt? by isilrion · · Score: 1

      /me laughs

      You'll probably not like it. TCP over Hard Disks has a very high latency!

    10. Re:TrueCrypt? by Githaron · · Score: 1

      So its just a useless file that everyone has and if they want to actually use it they just replace the whole thing? Why not just create a block of random bits? An highly oppressive country will just illegalize said OS/feature and would still likely throw users in jail or kill them for having encrypted (empty) content on their hard drives. Oppressive governments don't tend to tolerate clever games unless they are the ones committing them.

  6. yoani... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What about her? She has lots of money (way more than any cuban can have), and lots of help by the CIA & friends (various "pro-USA" NGOs), she doesn't care about "censorship", she only cares about money. She's just a troll. But she won't say that, of course.
    Poor Yoani! She can't talk! Except that that is bullshit, you can read her blog, her articles in international, US govt.-backed or associated, right wing media, she manages to get out of the country when she wants, etc. And she GETS PAID for doing that.
    Let's not talk about most "journalists" and their "morals."
    Seems like "defending cubans" and their "freedom of speech" is highly lucrative. I can only dream having her money...

    1. Re:yoani... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sad, but true.

  7. Solutions by Githaron · · Score: 2

    Sometimes a big problem can have a simple solution.

  8. QOTD by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't imagine that they can put a police officer on every corner to see who has a flash drive and who doesn't.'"

    Why not? The United States does. We already have given the police broad authority to stop and search people for flash drives, mobile phones, or other electronic gear without warrant or cause. If a "free" country like the United States can do this, what makes people think Cuba can't (or won't)?

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  9. Sneakernet Lives! by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 1

    I'm from the era in which 8" floppy diskettes were used and passed around. So here we are almost 4 decades later and Cuba's Sneakernet is saving the day. Glad to see it.

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    1. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      It's a lot easier to fit a flash drive up your ass, that's for sure!

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    2. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by Technician · · Score: 1

      Sneakernet is still alive in the US. Check your kid's ipod. Where did he get the content? Most of it is likely from the Sneakernet. Many kids don't have the money to blow in iTunes.

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    3. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by jelizondo · · Score: 1

      You insensitive clod!

      We had to pass around a stack of punched cards! And they were not easy to disguise from the police either...

      Bah! Modern children, so spoliled... Floppy disks... Jesus! Get off my lawn!

      (Note for the humor impaired: HTML does not recognize the <humorous> tag.

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    4. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by evil_aaronm · · Score: 1

      You don't even need to do that - unless you're into that kind of thing. Some drives - micro SD - are so small you can fit them between your fingers and cops wouldn't see them.

    5. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by killkillkill · · Score: 1

      Obligatory.

      Not an issue for some


      ... when did that become an email service?

    6. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check your kid's ipod.

      I'm sorry, I couldn't reproduce this step.

    7. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I'm a school IT tech. We had to ban USB sticks because of the amount of illegal mp3s and games that were appearing in user folders. I'm sure they still run the school pirate network (good for them!), but it's no longer on our server now and thus Not My Problem.

    8. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but they may not have the uSD drives in Cuba yet. Tech tends to lag a bit there.

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    9. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You can fit a micro SD drive under your foreskin. So I've been told.

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    10. Re:Sneakernet Lives! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, Check your iPod. ;-)
      How much on it was borrowed from a friend?

  10. Okay hang on, by Hermanas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm still not quite sure what this new-fangled device is they use in Cuba to pass along information. A "memory stick"? "thumb drive"? "Flash drive"? "removable" or "small" "computer memories"? This is all just too much, please explain using a car analogy.

    1. Re:Okay hang on, by MassiveForces · · Score: 2

      +10 internets for making me burst out in random laughter at work

    2. Re:Okay hang on, by nazsco · · Score: 2

      It's like a cabriolet covetable convertible spider topless targa car.

    3. Re:Okay hang on, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Imagine a station-wagon full of data tapes barrelling down the highway, except much smaller.

    4. Re:Okay hang on, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like this, the meme "Yo dawg." is real. They put a car in yo car, but it's a really tiny car.

      Cuba is oppressive and stuff so their highways are no good for moving certain types of luggage. Cubans, being crafty, take out the tiny car and move it around on foot. Oddly enough, foot traffic has a higher luggage capacity than road traffic.

      The end.

    5. Re:Okay hang on, by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is all just too much, please explain using a car analogy.

      Well, imagine a car driven by an angry man. That's cuba. Now imagine a semi truck. That's me. Now imagine you're standing in the middle of the road. You're the flash drive. Cuba tries to take the flash drive, but it's no match for my semi truck, so I run it over. Then I run you over, for asking for a car analogy. And everyone is satisfied, the end.

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    6. Re:Okay hang on, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's small and removable compared to [most] computers in the way an 8-track cassette compares to a car

    7. Re:Okay hang on, by ajlitt · · Score: 2

      Say you had a VW Microbus, and the insides of the windows are permanently fogged with antifreeze from a leaky heater core. You lend your friend Eddie the Microbus for a few days, but before he picks it up you write "frist psot" on the front passenger window. After a day of driving it, Eddie loans it to his pal Joe to move a couch, but before he gives it up he writes "hot grits" on the back window. Joe adds "STFU noob" to the windshield, but before he has a chance to move the couch, his grandma needs to borrow the Microbus to get to a bingo tournament. This goes on and on for years. Eventually you get your car back, with every window covered in messages.

      Now imagine there are hundreds of thousands of VW Microbuses in your pants. This is what's happening in Cuba.

    8. Re:Okay hang on, by drumlight · · Score: 1

      A thumb drive is a method of hitching a lift, flash drives would be something like a Lamborghini and memory sticks are like ummm....Christine maybe.

  11. Doesn't this make them targetable with malware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What better vector?

    1. Re:Doesn't this make them targetable with malware? by lkangaroo · · Score: 1

      You're targetable either way, although in cases like Cuba the propagation rate via Internet vs. flash drives is probably different than the rest of the world.

  12. The practice of samizdat is alive and well by dido · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Similar techniques were used in the old Soviet Union and former eastern bloc countries, called samizdat, except that with today's technology it's even easier. A US$40 64 GB flash drive can hold a lot of data, more text than a person could read in their lifetime, and to copy data from one to another would take only minutes. With a program like Truecrypt it even becomes possible to hide such incriminating data on it without anyone being the wiser. The only way to restrict this practice would be to ban or regulate all computers and computer equipment the way printers were, and I doubt that this is in any way feasible for Cuba.

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    1. Re:The practice of samizdat is alive and well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A US$40 64 GB flash drive can hold a lot of data, more text than a person could read in their lifetime, and to copy data from one to another would take only minutes.

      Would 'take only minutes' to copy 64GB?! Well I guess, if you consider your age in minutes old.

  13. Re:Matrix quote: YET each USB has a SERIAL NUMBER. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it's a trivial process by the O.S. to determine who has every used a particular Thumb-drive, now add virus scanning software which uploads serial numbers and MD5 signatures of all files then you'll realize that you're screwed.

  14. In B 4 "How long before we have to do that here?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But, seriously, with freedom of expression being attacked or chilled to silence, and government and corporate snooping on who says what and who looks at what, and insane laws for information sharing and consumption crimes...

    INFORMATION IS THE NEW ILLICIT DRUGS!

    We will need "mules" to carry information that should be legal across borders.

    I forecast that porn will be the new marijuana -- where a few over-enthusiastic politicians might manage to make it illegal to possess or distribute, and a society convinced that's the right course, until decades pass, and new generations reverse the gross injustice.

  15. Not comparable by necro351 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Every time someone posts about some awful dictatorship like Cuba, someone on Slashdot invariably equates them to the US. I like putting freedom in "scare quotes," that was a nice touch, but also really lazy. You basically did not have to substantiate or prove your point at all, yet you still got 3 points, phenomenal. I am sorry, but having to swap forbidden books using flash drives dwarfs whatever first-world problem crawled up your posterior and made you feel like you could ever possibly understand what it is like to live in a mind-controlling, life-or-death, blighted country like Cuba.

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    1. Re:Not comparable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you don't see it does not mean that its not there...

      BTW. I have a friend from Cuba and he likes the country. He feels that people (especially Americans) blow the problems out of proportion. According to him its a great country to live in as long as you follow the rules, same as anywhere. He lives in Sweden (married a Swedish girl) now but his family still lives in Cuba and he goes there to visit at least once a year.

    2. Re:Not comparable by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      but having to swap forbidden books using flash drives dwarfs whatever first-world problem crawled up your posterior and made you feel like you could ever possibly understand what it is like to live in a mind-controlling, life-or-death, blighted country like Cuba.

      forbidden books, mind-controlling, life-or-death, blighted...

      whatever first-world problem crawled up your posterior

      I rest my case, your honor.

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    3. Re:Not comparable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that's good because long dead programs and crazy conspiracy theories aren't much of a case.

    4. Re:Not comparable by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      It might be worse in cuba, but that doesn't make what he said about the USA incorrect. Hell, I wish he wasn't correct.

    5. Re:Not comparable by gmhowell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It might be worse in cuba, but that doesn't make what he said about the USA incorrect. Hell, I wish he wasn't correct.

      No, the fact that there are not police on every corner makes the original statement incorrect. If you are seeing this, I'd like to know your zipcode. Hell, my apartment complex alone has at least a half dozen law enforcement officers living there, yet I never see them patrolling the sidewalk in front of my dwelling (and my car got broken into once). Hyperbole is one thing; pretending the exaggeration is fact is quite another.

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    6. Re:Not comparable by paiute · · Score: 1

      ... its a great country to live in as long as you follow the rules.....

      The Devil is in the details, or in this case, the rules.

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    7. Re:Not comparable by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am sorry, but having to swap forbidden books using flash drives dwarfs whatever first-world problem crawled up your posterior and made you feel like you could ever possibly understand what it is like to live in a mind-controlling, life-or-death, blighted country like Cuba.

      So, you're an expert on Cuba and have been there? Or are you mostly extrapolating on what you've been told like most people here?

      I've been to Cuba, several times in fact -- for the most part, the people are awesome, friendly people, who are in the economic state they're in because of the US embargo. A people who don't want Guantanamo base on their soil, but the US injected an amendment to the Cuban constitution unilaterally guaranteeing them that right. So a little left over colonialism for you.

      Cuba isn't perfect, not by a long shot. But they do educate their citizens, and give them health care, and do they best they can manage. In parts of the US, the life and death is just as bad, because the poor are mostly left to fend for themselves and the state has no interest in looking out for them.

      Yes, Cuba is a military dictatorship -- but you know what, they were before Castro when it was Batista, it's just that the previous dictatorship was friendly to the US.

      Back in power, Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans

      He mostly got rich while the rest of the country starved and were treated like slave labor.

      America has only ever disliked dictators who dislike them, but they've been happy to put in a few over the years. If you really think Castro overthrew a benign, democratic government, you're wrong by a long shot.

      Unfortunately, 50 odd years on, and people still think "ZOMG, teh Communists" instead of having any actual historical context for how Cuba got where she is now.

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    8. Re:Not comparable by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2

      Mind controlling? Life or death? Dude, you've obviously never been to Cuba. Cuba is about as laid back as it gets. And most of the cops are actually relatively nice, normal people just looking for a well paid job as opposed to police in the US who are literally cruising for a bruising, drooling over the idea of their own little slice of torture porn.

      It has been a while since I've been there, but I lived there for about a year. Someday I'd very much like to go back. Whenever I return it still feels a bit like home.

      Cuba may not be some kind of workers paradise like devout communists want to believe, but it aint that bad. Not as bad as you make it sound. I actually felt a lot freer living there than I do here in the US. We may have more freedom here on paper, but in day to day life Cuba feels freer.

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    9. Re:Not comparable by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      If you break the rules in the US you also go to jail. The solution is just not to break the rules or if you do don't get caught.

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      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    10. Re:Not comparable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You cannot be that stupid. I refuse to believe that you can learn to operate a computer and still be that stupid.

    11. Re:Not comparable by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Cuba isn't perfect, not by a long shot. But they do educate their citizens, and give them health care

      You obviously didn't spend much time there. The education is mediocre at best. My girlfriend spent 4 years studying to be a waitress. She wasn't exactly what I would consider a walking encyclopedia. Of course it's difficult when you don't have the money to buy real textbooks. As a general rule I'd say Americans and Europeans and most Asians and the countries in South America where I have spent time are all far better educated then Cubans. Laos is probably comparable though.

      As for the Cubans themselves, they are nice on the surface, but once you spend more time there you realize they are not as nice as you thought. A great many of the ones that a tourist would ever meet are only acting nice to get something from you. To them you are a walking, talking ATM machine and they are looking to make a withdrawal. But as long as you don't trust them too much they are laid back and easy to like.

      In parts of the US, the life and death is just as bad, because the poor are mostly left to fend for themselves and the state has no interest in looking out for them.

      Hmm. It depends what you mean by 'bad'. The problem is that Cuban poor is really poor. I mean, how do you live on $8 a month even with your pathetic ration book and nearly free rent and electricity? It's a very, very tough life. That's why so many are desperate to escape. Desperate in a way which I have never seen anywhere else. It's more than just the poverty, although they are the poorest people I've ever known.

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    12. Re:Not comparable by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2

      Every corner is a very large exaggeration. In tourist areas there are a large number of street cops, but even there it's often only every 6 - 10 blocks or so. It's not as intimidating as with cops in the US because the Cuban cops are generally not bad guys. They are not just hoping for an excuse to bash your head in with their nightstick, taze you, and then bring you up on charges for assaulting them. As a rule Cuban cops are definitely better human beings than American cops. That doesn't mean I recommend going up and talking to them though. I wouldn't advocate that in any country. But they generally like to leave people alone and just chill until they get off work. Their mind set could not be more different from the cops we are used to here.

      I don't think girlintraining's point was invalid. Because the cops here have such a different us vs them gonna-prove-what-abaddas-iam mindset one cop here is a like a 100 over there. Way, way scarier. On paper the cops here have less power, but in reality they can do and will do pretty much whatever they want to you. Even before my police brutality experience here I was way more afraid of American cops than Cuban ones.

      I even got into some trouble a couple of times there. Once where I was strip searched and interrogated. They were incredibly nice to me every time. Nice in a way that you just don't get from cops here and I mean ever. They don't treat you like you are their sworn enemy or like you are a non-entity that means less to them than a bug they would scrape off their shoe.

      I mean it doesn't matter how much power you have on paper if you are a decent person you're not going to abuse it. Or at least not most of the time.

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    13. Re:Not comparable by IwantToKeepAnon · · Score: 1

      BTW. I have a friend from Cuba and he likes the country. He feels that people (especially Americans) blow the problems out of proportion

      Good for you, but an anecdote doesn't prove a point; "Man Visits Family" doesn't disprove Cuba's problems. I have been to Cuba more than once and been to several cities and villages; i.e. I got outside the tourist zones. I visited with a lot of people and went into a lot of homes; and yes there is a lot of poverty and oppression in Cuba.

      Oddly enough when I was there last I meet a Cuban man visiting his family who currently resides in Sweden ... what are the odds?

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    14. Re:Not comparable by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      As it is in every country. The issue isn't the consequences, it is the rules.

      And the (D) and (R) parties in the US have been increasing the amount of "rules" and making the consequences even more harsh for petty non-crimes, to the point we are slowly becoming just like those we hate. The worst part is, we don't have a critical press for 1/2 the political spectrum. and the other side is supported by Faux News.

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    15. Re:Not comparable by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Poverty yes, but what oppression did you notice?

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      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    16. Re:Not comparable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but that does make the mention of the U.S. a red herring.

    17. Re:Not comparable by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You cannot be that stupid. I refuse to believe that you can learn to operate a computer and still be that stupid.

      You really must be new here.

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    18. Re:Not comparable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oddly enough when I was there last I meet a Cuban man visiting his family who currently resides in Sweden ... what are the odds?

      Provided your anecdote is true, the odds are 1:1.

    19. Re:Not comparable by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      My son has two friends (10 and 12 years old) who are currently being held by the the state of Illinois without charges. The state of Illinois has been drugging and torturing them. The state lawyer who was "representing them" literally tried to get the court to "transfer them to an undisclosed facility". The US is most definitely not clean when it comes to human rights violations.

    20. Re:Not comparable by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Sometimes those rules are "don't try to go home". My son has two friends who are currently being held in custody by the state of Illinois with no charges against them. The state is trying to "reeducate" them. They are being told that they will continue to be drugged, and continue to have blood drawn (AKA getting stuck with needles) to make sure they are on drugs until they give up their hope to go home. This has been going on for 8 months. While the judge has signed off on the imprisonment, drugging, and torture, he thankfully cracked and refused to authorize the state's request to transfer the boys to an "undisclosed location" for further treatment.

  16. Re:Matrix quote: YET each USB has a SERIAL NUMBER. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dont use an installed os and use a bootable disc os instead.

  17. Clown car. by neoshroom · · Score: 0

    It is like a clown car; it fits a lot.

    Cuba is also like a clown car. It's driven by silly people in circles.

    __

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    1. Re:Clown car. by worf_mo · · Score: 0

      Cuba is also like a clown car. It's driven by silly people in circles.

      Sounds awfully like G+

  18. Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by manu0601 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Yoani Sanchez is obviously not an independent blogger, as she can afford translation of her blog in 20 languages. She must be backed by some bigger entity, but which one? And in what extent does she speaks for who is paying?

    1. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by jelizondo · · Score: 1

      What? Never heard of volunteer translators?

      I do translations for free, for people like Joel Spolsky and TED, neither of which is precisely poor.

      Whatever it is you're smoking, please share.

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    2. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by evil_aaronm · · Score: 1

      Jesus, dude - I'm fuckin' wasted, and even I can come up with Babelfish. For example, do you know that her "translations" are 100% semantically and idiomatically correct? Probably not. C'mon, mate. Try harder.

    3. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm having trouble understanding what you're saying. That's probably because having Lenin's, Marx's, Fidel's and Raul's cocks in your mouth all at once is playing hell with your enunciation.

    4. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Backed by the US, most probably. Or fishing for a green card. My impression is that they need not circumvent censorship as muchh as illegally exchange data to escape the insane sanctions Cuba is under.

    5. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      She is backed by USA, maybe CIA. Nothing really new.

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    6. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Well, at least the french version of wikipedia has the same questions (and note that even UN does not have as much translations), and some answers.

    7. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Traditionally, most Cuban dissidents have been extensively backed by the CIA and/or a huge network of anti-Castro fanatics (mostly now descendents of Batista cronies who think that they're going to get their wealth and power back once Castro is gone, and are willing to engage in blatant terrorism if necessary to accomplish that end).

      Basically, you have to take everything you hear related to Cuba with a huge dose of skepticism, on both sides. As a friend of mine once said, "There are two types of information available on Cuba: pro-Castro propaganda and anti-Castro propaganda."

    8. Re:Yoani Sanchez is not next door blogger by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      As a friend of mine once said, "There are two types of information available on Cuba: pro-Castro propaganda and anti-Castro propaganda."

      Plus the first hand experience you can have as a tourist...

  19. Evade censorship or crapy network workaround? by manu0601 · · Score: 2

    Perhaps flash drive helps evading censorship, but I wonder if the widespread usage could not just be a workaround for poor network coverage. Everyone use a flash drive when hit by network connectivity problems.

    1. Re:Evade censorship or crapy network workaround? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second.jpg

      For all the anti-communists who are somehow also socialists, you may eventually gain your "freedom" but you will still be running thumb drives around town because your government internet still sucks dick.

      Sincerely,
      Freedom.

    2. Re:Evade censorship or crapy network workaround? by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Network coverage? Unless things have changed drastically in the past 7 years or so there are probably only a handful of Cubans in the entire city of Havana that even own a computer of any kind. There are internet cafes. Although not many and they aren't cheap for a Cuban. Which is probably intentional.

      Last time I was there actually owning a computer was against the law. Only foreigners were allowed to own one. I think Raul changed that policy though, but an income of $10 per month isn't going to buy you much of a computer. This sneakernet probably uses mostly internet cafes and work computers, of which there are probably not many.

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    3. Re:Evade censorship or crapy network workaround? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Network coverage? Unless things have changed drastically in the past 7 years or so there are probably only a handful of Cubans in the entire city of Havana that even own a computer of any kind.

      If people have no access to computers, then the whole flash drive story is a nonsense

    4. Re:Evade censorship or crapy network workaround? by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Well, there are some internet cafes. Not many and they cost 1/4 to 1/2 a month's wages to access, but they do at least exist. Also some people work at places with computers. So they could use those. But home computers? No way. Not unless things have changed very, very dramatically there recently.

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      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    5. Re:Evade censorship or crapy network workaround? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      But home computers? No way. Not unless things have changed very, very dramatically there recently.

      I see no way they could have changed, the country still being on embargo

  20. Works for other forms of repression as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Movies and music for example .....

    1. Re:Works for other forms of repression as well by peppepz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the Cuban government could plant a few Mickey Mouse cartoons inside those USB sticks, wait for them to spread, then call some USA corporation and have them arrest, extradite and sue the owners for hundreds of thousands of dollars or the equivalent in jail-time.

  21. JumpShot by ianwojtowicz · · Score: 4, Informative
    I wrote some scripts for updating my offline Debian machine through a SneakerNet. Y'all might find it useful:

    JumpShot

  22. Not that hard by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

    I can't imagine that they can put a police officer on every corner to see who has a flash drive and who doesn't.

    Bah. If the regime truly can't crack down on this in an effective way, it only indicates that they have grown spineless and unable to contemplate drastic measures. Here's how you deal with "flash drive samizdat":

    1. Ban possession of flash drives, with very stiff penalties (e.g. capital punishment).
    2. Do random spot pat-downs and dwelling searches. Also follow up on any tips.

    The idea is to make getting caught a possibility - not likely, but not outlandish, either - and making it hurt really bad, so that most people would think twice before participating. It won't completely shut the network down, but it'll make it very small, and will exclude the majority of the population from having day-to-day access to it, which is good enough.

    Alternatively, if you want people using computers, and need them to be able to own flash drives, require them to be registered, and make the possession of a drive not registered to you a crime with a very stiff penalty.

    1. Re:Not that hard by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      If I were in charge of surpressing dissent, I'd add 3. Mandate all computers be sold with a government-approved antivirus program. As well as being a functioning (though hardly world-leading) antivirus, it also has a hash index of known subversive content. Upon detecting this, it immediately informs the government. Obviously this only works on internet-connected computers so it can download updates and report back violators, but those are also the ones you want to catch the most - people who can not only take part in the sneakernet, but also add new material or transfer incriminating files out of the country to a global audience.

    2. Re:Not that hard by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 2

      Pat downs are basically useless for this.

      The smallest available form factor for flash memory is the MicroSD card ; which comes in capacities up to 64GB in a device the size of your fingernail, and can be concealed in any number of places - a roll of body fat, beside the gum in the mouth, taped to virtually any location on the body, inside a body cavity, tucked between any of the layers of a pair of sneakers, tucked into the hem of your coat, etc, etc.

      Even the full sized USB thumbs are incredibly easy to conceal in a cavity. And what do you do about smartphones, MP3 players, etc, that all come with their own vast complement of flash RAM? Ban iPods?

      Policing this is basically impossible, because the number of police you'd need to police it effectively would become uneconomical very rapidly. Even to dissuade this kind of sneakernet, you're talking random arrests and full strip-searches including X-ray and cavity search of a significant number of the population - which is yet more incitement to revolution.

    3. Re:Not that hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eight years ago I spent a week in Havana on vacation with my family. My Dad has a ham radio friend who lives in Cuba, and who is rather connected. We visited him and noticed that he had an old PC (by our standards) running Ubuntu linux. At that time the government didn't (and perhaps still doesn't) allow citizens to own computers, but here this guy was with a working PC in his home.

      Cubans are a *really* resourceful bunch. They lived through the "special period," so if they want something, they'll find ways to get it.

    4. Re:Not that hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man, you would make hell of a dictator!

      these are the exact same practices that the government takes here in iran.

  23. I call BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Cubans aren't doing any of this. Why would they? They have free health care, the capitalist pig dogs were chased out so long ago most Cubans can't remember them, their per capita energy use is really low, high literacy prevails, they have no RIAA, no middle-east conflicts to fight... what would a Cuban possibly have to say that might offend one of their wonderful apparatchiks?

    Commie-hating 'murikans around here, I swear.

    1. Re:I call BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cubans aren't doing any of this. Why would they? They have free health care, the capitalist pig dogs were chased out so long ago most Cubans can't remember them, their per capita energy use is really low, high literacy prevails, they have no RIAA, no middle-east conflicts to fight... what would a Cuban possibly have to say that might offend one of their wonderful apparatchiks?

      Commie-hating 'murikans around here, I swear.

      Yeah, but for some strange reason they keep throwing themselves in shark infested waters trying to escape all the happiness you just describe.

  24. i was waiting for the false equivalency by circletimessquare · · Score: 0

    please note you just freely criticized the us govt, from within the usa, and no one stopped you, no one watch listed you, no one knocked on your door, no one cares

    understand the difference?

    you should. and you should value it. because it actually is a significant, material difference between the usa and repressive countries

    in your whiny clueless post you have exercised a luxury many people in this world wish they had. and you don't even fucking notice. what does that say about your level of awareness and knowledge about the world?

    the usa certainly has problems. the usa is certainly not perfect. but on this measure: freedom of expression, especially on religious and political matters, the usa is heads and shoulders above the likes of cuba

    i am certain there are whiny clueless characters like you in china, iran, cuba, etc too

    the difference between them and you is they are petrified with fear to say a damn thing about their governments

    don't be ignorant and count your blessings

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    1. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Insightful

      please note you just freely criticized the us govt, from within the usa, and no one stopped you, no one watch listed you, no one knocked on your door, no one cares understand the difference?

      Well first, I'm behind 14 proxies. Good luck, assholes. Second, how do you know I didn't get watch listed? It's not like they're published. And I have gotten knocks on my door for criticizing my government... usually for campaign contributions. I know, ha ha, but more seriously, yes I've been visited by the police for criticism of the government. Oh I'm sorry, did that not fit with your worldview?

      in your whiny clueless post you have exercised a luxury many people in this world wish they had. and you don't even fucking notice. what does that say about your level of awareness and knowledge about the world?

      I think it says that I'm not above suspecting my own government of engaging in the same activities that every other government does, simply because the popular media tells me it doesn't happen here.

      i am certain there are whiny clueless characters like you in china, iran, cuba, etc too

      According to you, they don't exist, you know, since they're all in jail.

      the difference between them and you is they are petrified with fear to say a damn thing about their governments

      I seem to recall a major student uprising in Iran... something about the Spring... oh gee, if I wasn't so clueless and whiny, I might remember the name. Oh gosh darn it.

      don't be ignorant and count your blessings

      Yes. I'll count my blessings... let's see... gay rights? Don't got those. Non-discrimination in choice of housing? Don't got that either. Free healthcare? Yeah no, that's not on the list either. The right to be free of unreasonable searches? Nope... that one's dead. Uhh... the right not to have the President excercise unilateral authority to bomb me using a drone while I'm in my own house because of an unreleased and unknown secret memo that he drafted giving himself the power? Wait... checking... nope, that one's not there either! Well, damn. Do I at least have the right criticize my government? Actually, no. Something about the ability of the government to secretly declare certain areas "national interest zones" and then arrest anyone who protests there, with no prior notification to the public...

      But please, you were saying?

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    2. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes and no. Natural rights are being eroded daily. Freedom of speech is pretty painless for the state to put up with mainly, especially when they are in bed with the major media outlets for the most part. Freedom of religion also isn't really what they care about in the main, when other freedoms are gone these things are easily done away with. I'm not saying these things are not important - of course they are, but these are things the state can effectively ignore when it's busy working on other things. Which they are.

      Private property, a right indeed, necessary for the statist to take, most certainly. You have a lot less of this than your parents did, and their parents. Get me?

      The right to keep and bear arms, now there's something your hard core statist just drools over putting a stop to; oh and they are hard at work it seems every day working on this huh? Check.

      Fourth amendments against against unreasonable searches and seizures, of yea pretty important. Easy to forget, easy to lose this one.

      I could go on but I won't.

    3. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awwwwhhhh!!! cute! you are so inocent...

    4. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by T-Bone-T · · Score: 1

      I couldn't help but notice that you criticized your government again without any apparent fear of repercussions from said government. 14 proxies? That's cute.

    5. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a point people need to remember when bitching about how repressive the US, how much Obama sucks and all that.

      Complain about the Thai government, and it will bring decades of imprisonment. Make a statement that could be taken as a religious blasphemy in a good chunk of the Middle East, and one can not just face torture and a beheading, but their family and friends too.

    6. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by circletimessquare · · Score: 0

      it's nice you said all of that

      and no one in the US govt cares

      you can criticize the govt all you want

      no one in the US govt cares

      you'd have to threaten the presidents life before they actually began caring

      in China, Cuba, or Iran, if you persistently and vocally criticize the govt, they DO care, and WILL find you and WILL punish you

      you don't have freedom of expression in those countries, ESPECIALLY on political issues

      that is a real, substantive fact. and it means nothing to you, exactly as you make full use of your rights

      absurd, hilarious, ironic

      if you were intellectually honest with yourself, you would admit the teensy tiny difference on your rights

      again, as i already said, your litany of problems with the USA are real. and still having nothing to do with the topic at hand: freedom of expression

      you do notice the topic here is sneakernet in cuba. do you need a sneakernet here in the usa? oh right: 14 proxies

      what a spastic twit: you don't NEED THAT shitwit. NO ONE FUCKING CARES about your whiny crap. it's not even interesting, it's a quite common litany of complaints

      but somehow basic reality doesn't fit in with your persecution fantasy, so it has to be ignored

      you can't, or you won't, admit the blindingly obvious substantive difference in rights, exactly as you make full use of them

      which makes your entire temper tantrum tell us nothing except you are an ignorant child

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    7. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by circletimessquare · · Score: 0

      seriously. it's not even an interesting collection of complaints, it's a quite common and mediocre litany

      i suppose the fuckwit actually believes the US govt will persecute them for complaining about lack of universal healthcare?

      i've insisted we should have universal healthcare quite emotionally in a number of posts, and i'm not behind 14 proxies

      so the US govt is going to drone strike me now? this is what this fuckwit seems to believe

      what the hell is wrong people, how can they be so fucking deluded about basic reality?

      they don't seem to be stupid, so it must be a sort of psychological problem, this insistence on being persecuted as an aspect of their reality, when obviously there is no such persecution

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      intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
    8. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. I'll count my blessings... let's see... gay rights? Don't got those. Non-discrimination in choice of housing? Don't got that either. Free healthcare? Yeah no, that's not on the list either. The right to be free of unreasonable searches? Nope... that one's dead. Uhh... the right not to have the President excercise unilateral authority to bomb me using a drone while I'm in my own house because of an unreleased and unknown secret memo that he drafted giving himself the power? Wait... checking... nope, that one's not there either! Well, damn. Do I at least have the right criticize my government? Actually, no. Something about the ability of the government to secretly declare certain areas "national interest zones" and then arrest anyone who protests there, with no prior notification to the public...

      But please, you were saying?

      Lets see, so your first listing is about gay rights? That says a lot right there to everyone reading. Face it you can't force the general public to accept your lifestyle or approve of it (even if it does become law). Free healthcare? In what part do you think others should sacrifice so that you can have free services? Do you work for free? As to the rest, can I interest you in this latest model of hat...

    9. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, a prophet in her own country; not one of the more enviable positions. Best luck to us all, including those who get it not.

    10. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      You are correct in your main point. A Cuban would or damn well should be afraid to post something, anything, critical of the government online. And the phones are known to be tapped so you can't even say something critical of the government on the phone. Although I've never personally heard of anyone getting in trouble for that.

      the difference between them and you is they are petrified with fear to say a damn thing about their governments

      Naw. The Cubans aren't afraid. Not at all. They just don't publish stuff online or anywhere else critical of the government. Other than that they aren't worried about what you seem to think they are worried about. The whole 'don't worry be happy' meme is a lot more popular over there. What they are really worried about is having enough food to eat and other financial issues. Communism doesn't work very well for stuff like that. Well, really for anything other than maybe keeping crime down.

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      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    11. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      What they are really worried about is having enough food to eat and other financial issues. Communism doesn't work very well for stuff like that.

      Cuba's economic situation would be a lot better if they hadn't been economically blockaded by the US for the last fifty years.

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    12. Re:i was waiting for the false equivalency by Larry_Dillon · · Score: 1

      "I'm behind 14 proxies"

      Your latency must suck.

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  25. Tanenbaum quote by symbolset · · Score: 2

    Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

    Tanenbaum, Andrew S. (1996). Computer Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 83. ISBN 0-13-349945-6.

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    1. Re:Tanenbaum quote by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      s/"station wagon"/"jumbo jet"/
      s/"tapes"/"CDs"/
      s/"hurtling down the highway"/"flying across the Atlantic"/
      Anon, CIS 75643:235675, 1993.

      Get up to date, Prof Tanenbaum!

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  26. Never underestimate the bandwidth by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 2

    Never underestimate the bandwidth of a Yank Tank full of flash drives hurtling down the Carretera Central.

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    I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
  27. Geek fanboys are so naive and think backwards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Cubans Evade Censorship By Exchanging Flash Drives

    No, the are not evading censorship, they are infecting their computers with some advanced USB-borne malware like Stuxnet. You see, nation states are NOT stupid, else they would not be continously in existance for something like 5000 years.

    1. Re:Geek fanboys are so naive and think backwards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Egypt?

  28. TOR?! by Zeroedout · · Score: 2

    67 posts and no one has mentioned TOR yet? Everyone above has geek credentials suspended for a week.

    On top of doing this, I suggest creating a TOR site mirroring all this material. The USB sticks can include the Tor Browser Bundle for all platforms and a txt file (or better yet, bookmarks) with the urls. Maybe also a note saying "Be patient, anonymous browsing is *slower*"

    1. Re:TOR?! by alantus · · Score: 1

      67 posts and no one has mentioned TOR yet? Everyone above has geek credentials suspended for a week.

      On top of doing this, I suggest creating a TOR site mirroring all this material. The USB sticks can include the Tor Browser Bundle for all platforms and a txt file (or better yet, bookmarks) with the urls. Maybe also a note saying "Be patient, anonymous browsing is *slower*"

      Wow this is great technology, how does TOR work without any Internet connection?

    2. Re:TOR?! by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      They have internet access in Cuba. Most people in cuba also have cell phones.

  29. Re:USB Serial Number changer plz by u64 · · Score: 1

    Can we change Serial Numbers then? I'm been looking for a simple command-line program for this.
    Just for the fun to see if it's even possible, or if it's set in stone in hardware... im curius.

      "Help me internet - you're my only hope"

  30. I don't get this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait. We were told there were no vehicles, no frigdes and of course no computers under communism. Where the hell would a cuban plug a flash drive?

    1. Re:I don't get this by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

      Where the hell would a cuban plug a flash drive?

      Same place where he would plug a thumb drive or a removable memory or a small memory or a USB stick or memory stick or a memory drive.

  31. Mod parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up! I'm sorry you got downvoted. I was going to add a comment about the "no-fly-zones" added around wherever the president is flown, but those are usually covered by prior notifications as NoTAMs and TFR's (Temporary Flight Restrictions). Except for when the Prez makes an unscheduled flight and screws everyone over by landing at a major airport near other airports, effectively closing down that and the surrounding airport within 30 nautical miles for scheduled flights (10 nautical miles for unscheduled flights). They also put TFRs around big events like the Superbowl and televised golf classics (and also around big hollywood weddings to restrict helicopters used by paparzazi to photograph the stars).

    1. Re:Mod parent up! by T-Bone-T · · Score: 1

      Parent got rightfully modded down not only for calling everyone assholes but then continuing to spew lies.

  32. Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, after 5 years without Fidel nothing has changed huh?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/world/americas/06cuba.html?ref=cuba&_r=0

  33. Anybody taking up a collection? by paiute · · Score: 1

    I imagine that most of you are like me and have a drawer full of thumb drives that will never be used. Is anyone accepting these and sneaking them into Cuba? Or do they have all they want and need already?

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    If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
    1. Re:Anybody taking up a collection? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      You don't need to sneak them into cuba, you just bring them with you on vacation. I was not questioned when I went into Cuba with my own.

  34. wanna bet? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    " I can't imagine that they can put a police officer on every corner to see who has a flash drive and who doesn't.'" Wanna bet?

  35. "known as memory sticks" by Captain_Chaos · · Score: 1

    ..., passed around on removable computer drives known as memory sticks. The small computer memories, also known as flash drives or thumb drives, ...

    Thanks for explaining that, grandpa...

  36. Government Malware by domatic · · Score: 1

    The government could distribute malware infected drives themselves. It isn't as though the Cuban underground isn't full of double agents and provacatuers. The malware will of course scream it's head off to the mothership anytime it finds itself on a network connected machine. To be sure, the tech savvy can avoid this but the distribution of the savvy in the underground just like in all other walks of life will be concentrated on one end.

  37. Of course, it's easy if you're the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All you do is declare that you can sieze any memory stick or computer to "combat terrorism".

    Look, the "censorship" of the media in Cuba is NO DIFFERENT to the censorship that you get anywhere else. AlJazeera is banned in the USA, Abu Hamza was extradited because he preached against christianity and the western governments, asking them to be torn down in the UK. The police kettle protestors until an accident and then use that to proclaim the protesters were getting violent (yeah, hitting back is violence...).

    What is being censored are no different than "terrorist cells" in the USA, UK, France, ....

    But because Cuba is a proof of how communism CAN WORK, it gets demonised.

    It's the same with the national postal services. They demonstrate how government can do a job better than the private industry, so the government has to kill it by mandating it jump through hoops to kill the service off and proclaim that it failed because private business is the only way to run a successful business.

  38. UUCP by hey · · Score: 1

    i wonder whats on the drives. Is it folders of content organized by subject?
    Would be cool if they had a way for people forwarding messages ... to other flash users and to the public internet.
    Like UUCP.

  39. more likely, private business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, the private businesses that got kicked out of Cuba because they were so totalitarian that a popular uprising and revolt happened. Indeed, it was very very much the same as the USA when kicking out the UK (or later on, India's independence uprising against the UK, again).

    They want their fiefdoms and slaves back. They want the billions to themselves, not to go to the people of Cuba.

    So they push and create a fake controversy abroad and, genuinely, exhort treason against the state (which is illegal in EVERY country) and criminal attacks (much like the IRA in the UK) to try and throw out the POPULAR DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED government.

    You know when you pretended you'd done some good in Gulf War 2 by proclaiming you were "bringing democracy to the middle east"? Well why are you so hell bent on removing democracy from Cuba and Venezuela? Is there only a limited amount of democracy and you want to save it up for the middle east?

    1. Re:more likely, private business by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here in Brazil we have many people like Yoani: Reinaldo Azevedo, Paulo Francis, Merval Pereira, even magazines like "Veja". All working hard to say that Brazil is "threatened by The Red Terror" and that the only salvation would be free and unrestricted capitalism (you should know the threat that is a capitalism practiced without limits...).

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      Religion: The greatest weapon of mass destruction of all time
  40. Re:USB Serial Number changer plz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can in Linux, but probably not in Windows.

  41. If that were true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Then by now there should be nobody left.

    Unless they're importing people to keep numbers up.

    I call BS on that claim.

  42. RFC 1149 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So has (RFC1149) http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 been modified to cover sneakernet yet?

  43. Trusted Computing they call it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the USA wanted their keylogger trojan to be unrecognised by anti-virus scanners. Many complied, otherwise they would be extraordinarily renditioned if necessary and prosecuted for criminal acts of their foreign country by allowing US citizens to buy their product without it being broken.

  44. More horses than computers in Cuba... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just been to Cuba last week. First, there actually _is_ some sort of policeman or at least official at every street corner. Second, given how people wait in line for things like bread or shampoo, and how the national currency (cuban peso) won't buy much, I wonder how many devices people actually have to read blogs, let alone read an SD card. Last week, I have seen more horse-drawn cars and bicycles on very bumpy roads than modern IT devices. Computers that people do have are at businesses such as hotels (for tourists), at airport checkpoints and the like.