Iran Plans To Launch an 'Islamic Google Earth'
Shipwack sends this quote from the Guardian:
"The Iranian authorities have long accused Google Earth of being a tool for western spy agencies, but now they have taken their attacks on the 3D mapping service one step further — by planning the launch of an 'Islamic' competitor. ... The minister, however, gave little information on what he meant by an Islamic 3D map. 'We are developing this service with the Islamic views we have in Iran and we will put a kind of information on our website that would take people of the world towards reality Our values in Iran are the values of God and this would be the difference between Basir and the Google Earth, which belongs to the ominous triangle of the U.S., England and the Zionists [a reference to Israel].' Experts, however, have serious doubts about the project. An IT consultant who has worked on Iran's national internet project in the past said the announcement was merely an excuse to obtain funds and secure working contracts for the future. 'They have claimed to run their service in four months and said their data centre capacity will reach Google's size in three years,' he said. 'Three-year project, no business model and only relying on government funding, a piece of cake indeed. To have a data centre with such capacity and security level they need power stations, cooler systems, bandwidth, etc, which will require billions of dollars of investment that doesn't fit with Iran's sanctions-hit economy.'"
They have long wanted to wipe Israel off the face of the map and this is how they will do it. Just make their own maps and pretend they don't exist. Now if only they would do support virtual terrorism instead of real terrorism.
Someone up for a corn field portrait of a certain prophet?
what else is there to say?
So it'll be flat?
I would love to see the Conservapedia.com article on this project.
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It's random, but my posting it here is probably considered illegal to someone.
It will look something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_and_O_map
Only, it will probably be centered in Mecca.
It reads like it was written by an Onion "journalists" ...
Although I will tell you it is scary when some says "Our values in Iran are the values of God" It is odd how the values of God always seem to take on the values of the subject adherent.
We have the Axis of Evil and they have the Ominous Triangle.
Who can rock hardest?!!!
Who can guitar solo the longest?!!!
Who has the most gonzo drummer?!!!
It is like Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey but everybody forgot to be excellent to each other!
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
Time to draw some giant Mohammed cartoons in the desert, Nazca-style!
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
I wonder if it will show the mountain that floated over to Mohammed. I always wondered where that was.
I will do this anonymously, of course, lest a mortal from the Religion of Peace decide infinitely powerful God needs help to murder me for my insolence.
Is that like extremist "Christian" geography? (Or astronomy, for that matter?)
I'm pretty sure western spy agencies have access to much better tools than Google Earth. You probably could claim that Google Earth is a produce of tools for western spy agencies. That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with Google Earth.
Wouldn't it be much simpler to just point out what part of Google Earth does not represent reality?
Or maybe they just want to develop their own software to automate nuke attacks on other countries with drones :)
Is this just a huckster trying to make a few bucks off nationalist suckers by offering to draw a map with a few contentious names and borders modified(the sort of thing that a script kiddie could do by hacking together a KML layer for google earth in about 10 minutes; but I digress...) or is there some sort of 'Islamic geography' that has serious issues with basic tenents of what we know about our dear home geoid?
I'm honestly curious... It certainly isn't uncommon to have mere nationalist spats over mapping; but that's just standard political bluster.
Religious convictions that are seriously opposed to empirically demonstrable facts about the world, though, tend to be fairly amusing and sometimes quirky. You've got your flat earthers, your YECs, your geocentericists(does the Tychonic system get any love anymore?), your 'baraminologists', faith healers of a zillion different flavors, people who are pretty sure that Jesus and/or the 'lost tribes of Israel' ended up in North America, you name it, we've got it...
Is this just the tedious nationalism, or does folk islam have some weird bug up its ass about the-world-as-observed-from-orbit?
I wonder if it will show a crudely drawn America with the caption - "Here be dragons".
So will Spain be replaced by the Caliphate of Córdoba?
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will they use gimp or photoshop?
It's two dimensional and has depictions of water falls on all sides.
Without BLACKJACK!
Or HOOKERS!
or Israel.
or gays.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
They could replace street view with Terrorist View, showing all the best places for terrorist bombings.
Yes, I know not all people from that part of the world are terrorists. But that is a lot less funny.
If I were God, wouldn't I protect my churches from acts of me?
1. The Earth turns around Mecca. :-P
2. There is no Israel.
MPAA/RIAA, is that you?
I think it is great to have more countries get off their collective asses and start publishing competing geospatial datasets and stop smooching off the devil/great satan/colonial empire..ad nauseum.
The problem is if your an Iranian citizen you are likely to be better off with the spookes behind google earth vs mullaearth from the perspective of local oppression especially if "competition" really means we're also going to block google earth so you have no choice.
So they're going to be bigger than Google's data center in 3 years? That's interesting, because nobody really knows how big Google's data centers are. I'd be willing to bet that most of the server admins at Google have no idea how many servers they have. The current estimates are approaching 2 million servers though. I have a very hard time believing that Iran is going to be able to build 2 million servers and the required infrastructure to run 2 million servers in the next 3 years.
I'm also curious why they'd need that many servers to run a mapping service. Their service would pretty much be guaranteed to have fewer users than Google, and provide only a fraction of the services that Google does. So I guess they're admitting that they don't really know anything about utilizing servers effectively. Or perhaps we should assume the more likely scenario -- that they're completely making all of this up.
Software sucks. Open Source sucks less.
No, really, there were golden tablets! Given to me by an angel! You need a special magic stone to read them. The angel gave me one of those, too. Oh, well, I can't show them to you now, they, er, seem to have disappeared. I mean, only I can see them.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
in this one, the Earth will be flat.
Looks like Apple found a buyer for it's map app after all.
Right now, GMail, YouTube and Maps are all mixed together (not necessarily 100%, probably possible to do IP filtering, but Google may be moving away from that) ... take maps away and it's easier to block the other two.
"What's very important from my point of view is that there is one web. . . . Anyone that tries to chop it into two will find that their piece looks very boring."
-- Sir Tim Berners-Lee, "US backing for two-tier internet" in BBC News (7 September 2007)
Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
I wonder if their Photoshop skills are up to the task. And what about their satellite? Will they just have a camera in a dark room occasionally use the flash take a picture of a spinning globe? Because that would be awesome. I suppose occasionally, you will be able to see the hand of God reaching out to give the globe a spin.
What will it look like? A little like the famous View From New York, but with a few substitutions e.g. Tehran in the foreground, Mashhad in place of Chicago, Mecca instead of Las Vegas, and Jerusalem standing in for Los Angeles.
Leave aside that the US would still be a British colony if the French hadn't supported the revolutionaries as part of their war with Britain.
The reason we've had the "France surrenders" and "Freedom Fries" memes spread around by the US press since 2002 or so is that France didn't support Bush's war on Iraq, and the Bush League didn't want people comparing the Iraqi resistance to the WW II French Resistance, who were total badasses defending their country against invaders. Bush's propaganda push was that after the US beat Saddam, any Iraqis who didn't hail us as liberators were terrorists who deserve to be stomped into the ground because they hated our freedom.
Oh, yeah, the French Foreign Legion? They were colonialists who were generally on the side of evil, but they were also badasses.
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Iran's propaganda issues aren't just about Shia vs. Sunni or Muslim vs. The Great Satan America and The Previous Great Satan England, but also about Persians vs. Arabs, Turks, and other Muslims. Persians have been in the Empire business for more than a millennium before Islam.
Also, the Persians had the benefit of Greek culture after Alexander the Great invaded them, and probably well before, and the Greeks not only knew that the world was spherical, but had a pretty good estimate of its size.
Bill Stewart
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Iraq, North Korea and Iran are obviously the triangle of whoaaaa..... dude.....
explosions. lots of explosions.
Add the new Iranian time machine announced today (really, see http://gizmodo.com/5994334/oh-yes-an-iranian-scientist-has-invented-a-time-machine-so-he-says) and you can get very close to omniscience, if not omnipotence. Add to that their new jet 'stealth fighter' and it's not hard to see someone is just thinking shit up to impress Crazy Pants and keep the ministry of weird shit busy.
Organization? You must be joking..
Kill the fucking Jews
or
Rape your daughter then kill her.
I read an article a long time ago on how some Internet tools were changing things, but not the tools that you'd think. It was about Tripod and Google Earth. Tripod was taken over as the tool of the Underground. Google Earth had people in Arab countries (yeah, I know Iran's not Arabic, just read the article) question how their land policies favored the very few connected and screwed everyone else. One of the countries explicitly mentioned? Tunisia. I thought about that a lot during the Arab Spring.
So, even Google Earth is political. Remember when the Indians and Pakistanis were pissed at Microsoft on a few pixels that showed Kashmir belonging ever more slightly one than the other? This is much bigger.
The Ayatollah Khomeini has dictated that our Islamic 3d map will be holy and use a 9 bit architecture!
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
Do these guys know there is no god? Must be difficult to run a country based on belief in fairy tales instead of............... reality.
for naming the Persian gulf in to the Arabian gulf, with out any precedence.
They must be so stupid. Coverage of Google Maps for western countries (US, Europe) is far better than for middle-eastern countries. If anyhting, Google is enabling Iran to select the best places to invade and attac. Even services that supply detailed aireal photo's have better coverage in the west than in the middle-east.
Mindless rhetoric from a mindless government. And then they want to spend their valuable resources mapping their countries even better? Looks like a loose-loose situation to me.
same as good earth but with potential targets highlighted?
Guess I'll create a gigantic star of David in the back forty.
You can put them on your roof.
“Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.” Richard Dawkins That just about sums up the probability anything will come to this.http://rawcell.com
Was that what Apple did in iOS 6?
So they're telling me I've gotta proofread the title of the post too?
Wouldn't it be showing the same planet?
but I guess I am some sort of masochist. Holy shit the ignorant "jokes" that are displayed here. Get some learning and perspective about the world, people. A government is not its people, as you can so clearly see in America. Keep in mind that Iran is one of the more modernized and science-investing nations in the region, so the boneheaded camel 'n' burka jokes are incredibly misplaced. I'm also willing to bet there are a lot more Iranians (home or abroad) in IT and tech who read this site than many of you would think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Space_Agency Environment 1, a joint research satellite of Iran, China and Thailand was launched on a Chinese Long March 2C carrier rocket on September 6, 2008, aimed at boosting cooperation on natural disasters such as flooding, drought, typhoon, landslide and earthquake. The twin Earth observation satellites of eight planned were launched from Taiyuan SLC. The satellites will work as a constellation with six other satellites yet to be launched. Its observational footprint is 720 km. With a lifespan of more than three years, they have state-of-the-art imaging systems and infrared cameras and provide a global scan every two days. Iran had shouldered $6.5 million dollars out of the $44 million dollars of the total project cost.[29][30] Well maybe they have the sensing capacity. I for one hope it is successful. They would be supplying hard facts and data the more sources we have the harder censorship and manipulation is.