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What's Next For Smartphone Innovation

SternisheFan sends in an article about the new features and developments we can expect out of smartphones in the near future. The shortlist: more sensors for tracking the world outside the phone, more gesture-based (i.e. non-touch) input, and integration with wearable computers like smartwatches and Google Glass. From the article: "These under-appreciated components -- the gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, and so forth -- are starting to get more friends in the neighborhood. Samsung, for instance, slipped pressure, temperature, and humidity sniffers into the Galaxy S4. They may not be the sexiest feature in your phone, but in the future, sensors like accelerometers will be able to collect and report much more detailed information. ... In addition to air quality, temperature and speed of movement are also biggies. [Also, a smartphone that can] track your pulse, or even double as an EKG, turning the everyday smartphone into a medical device. ... [For wearable computing,] your smartphone is still there, still essential for communicating with your environment, but it becomes only one device in a collection of other, even more personal or convenient gadgets, that solve some of the same sorts of problems in different or complementary ways." What do you think will be the next generation of killer features for smartphones?

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  1. Innovation by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simply adding existing sensors to phones is not 'innovation'. It's the logical outcome of miniaturization and reduced power requirements, despite what the marketing says. Between Apple and most of the car manufacturers the word 'innovation' seems to have lost all meaning.

    1. Re:Innovation by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I should add that the 'killer feature' for smartphones at this point should be a much better battery life, or better durability. Everyone I see raves about how thin a phone is and then slaps it in a rubberized case that at least doubles the thickness.

    2. Re: Innovation by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      Depends what they do with the sensors.

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    3. Re:Innovation by Shortguy881 · · Score: 2

      innovation - the introduction of something new If your going to argue over the semantics of the word look it up. Adding on little sensors is the exact definition of innovation. Furthermore, this is a perfect example of convergence theory. It will reach a point were nearly anything and everything will be accessible right there on your phone. With the advancements in biotechnology and human computer interfaces, it wont be long before the phone will become an integral part of us, literally. The real question is by that point will it still be called a phone?

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    4. Re:Innovation by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 5, Informative

      durability AND battery life. not OR. these 2 features are the only 2 i would happily pay extra for. i don't need the phone to glow blue when orcs are near, pluck my nose hair or keep my crotch cool in summer. I want it to be soft&bendy (TM) so I can sit on it (with keys/coins in the same pocket) and i don't want to have to carry a 5 year old nokia in my bag in case i actually need a phone for emergency, because there's 80% chance my main phone will be out of juice when i need it most.

    5. Re: Innovation by artemis67 · · Score: 2

      By that measurement, smartphones, themselves, would not be regarded as innovative because they all used existing technology.

    6. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why wouldn't you just carry a spare battery rather than a whole different phone? Wait a minute... IPHONE (L)USER ALERT!!!! GUARDS! TAKE HIM!

    7. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Every see a gadget magazine run a feature on a phone because it has incrementally better battery life? No? New features it is!

    8. Re: Innovation by icebike · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Depends what they do with the sensors.

      Why they track you of course. What else? Look, nobody needs to have their phone tell them the humidity or air pressure.

      What is that all about?

      Its for crowd sourcing local weather, (or at least the weather in your pocket or purse). But all of that is for someone
      else's benefit, not the phone owner. If you were able to legislatively forbid the transmission of temperature, pressure,
      humidity across the network, would there still be any rational reason to include these sensors? I would say probably not.

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    9. Re:Innovation by epiphani · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Durability is not generally designed into current smartphones. Intentionally. Think about the volume of sales, and how they would decrease, if devices didn't break within about 2-3 years. In fact, durability nearly sank RIM - as most people were comparing new iPhones with the original bold - released at the same time as the original iPhone.

      2-3 years is an eon in mobile right now. If devices don't die, people don't upgrade.

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    10. Re:Innovation by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

      Well, they did say 'feature', singular. I'd be happy with either, and ecstatic with both. I may need to add the 'crotch cooling' feature to my wish-list though.

    11. Re:Innovation by ExploHD · · Score: 4, Funny

      i don't need the phone to ... keep my crotch cool in summer.

      Speak for yourself

    12. Re:Innovation by craigminah · · Score: 1

      Durability, battery life, and better quality voice. AT&T is working on "HD voice" but I want all cell providers to bump voice quality up.

    13. Re: Innovation by craigminah · · Score: 2

      They improve the accuracy of drone strikes.

    14. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He could just as well have a Nexus 4.

    15. Re:Innovation by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      I've seen universal battery extenders. basically just batteries with a USB power only port on them and a way to recharge themselves.

      Mycroft

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    16. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe everyone you see. i don't put my phone in a case because i want my phone to be as thin as possible in my pocket. that said, my iphone 4s is thin enough. bring on the better battery life.

    17. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been saying for years, to whomever would listen, that they need to add fingerprint scanners to smartphones. I have no intention of ever using mobile banking apps (or worse), until I can get rid of the 4-digit PIN.

      I'm still waiting.

    18. Re:Innovation by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Simply adding existing touchscreens to phones is not 'innovation' neither. But still meant a big deal for a lot of people. The right sensors could have a lot of extra meaning, despite that don't imply really new technology.

    19. Re:Innovation by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      Smartphones are toys which we will eventually get bored of. Adding sensors might interest special interest groups but most users wont have a use for them. Remember the digital watch?

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    20. Re: Innovation by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Is there a reason to have an accelerometer in a phone? Probably not, until some genius figures out he can write a program to figure out 0 to 60 performance of your car by using it.

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    21. Re:Innovation by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Remind me to never touch your phone, ever.

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    22. Re: Innovation by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Except the iPhone.
      It runs on unicorn shit and fairy farts.

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    23. Re:Innovation by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      A digital watch! Wow! That's a pretty neat idea! ...
      Hey, anybody know where my dolphin went?

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    24. Re:Innovation by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I've been saying for years, to whomever would listen, that they need to add fingerprint scanners to smartphones. I have no intention of ever using mobile banking apps (or worse), until I can get rid of the 4-digit PIN.

      And when someone copies your fingerprints or can otherwise spoof them well enough to get into your account, will your bank provide you with ten replacement digits? Likewise, what if you do a lot of manual labor, which can wear down the ridges enough to make them hard to read?

      Biometrics are a long way from being foolproof.

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    25. Re: Innovation by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      of course, because people only upgrade their phones when the old one is broken, not because the new phone is newer bigger faster stronger

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    26. Re:Innovation by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 1

      Smartphones are toys which we will eventually get bored of.

      I disagree. In the first two weeks of April I've tracked 125 miles (200km) of cycling, running, and walking. I've used the calendar a few times to tell me where the next meeting is. I've read some pages from an ebook while traveling by train. I've taken 16 photos. I've even received four phone calls in that time. I could carry around specialized devices for all these functions, but it's much easier to carry a smartphone.

      I don't think we'll get bored, and if something even more amazing comes along, then great!

    27. Re:Innovation by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Durability is not generally designed into current smartphones. Intentionally.

      No not intentionally. The lack of durability is a side-effect of producing a device that will sell in the market. People don't want to lug around a brick. People seem to fall over themselves to have screens that extend to the edge of the bezel, a phone that is 0.2mm thinner than the previous one on the market, and a giant glass touch surface. You can't make a phone like that rugged as one of those features will give.

      There are plenty of semi-rugged and rugged phones on the market. They don't sell well. Catapilla has a rugged IP67 smartphone with rubber bezels and is about 3 times the size of the iPhone while having a smaller screen. The Sony xperia Go is also IP67 rated though not rugged. None of these phones are in the same league or even playing the same game as the top selling brands.

      One key feature of covers is they can come off. I don't have a cover on my phone at home. I do when I'm at work. I'd have broken my phone many times over if it weren't for the cover, but that doesn't mean that I need or want a rugged brick in my pocket.

      As for sales and obsolescence, I see very few phones get sold because a previous one breaks. I often see smarphone screens get replaced for $100 at the local Chinese phone repair stand, but rarely do I see an upgrade occur due to a break. On the other hand a contract expires and people toss their perfectly good phones into a drawer because they get the latest shiny product for "free" when they renew their contract.

    28. Re: Innovation by StarWreck · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you have an iPhone you could get a mophie case. It adds durability and batter

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    29. Re: Innovation by MrLogic17 · · Score: 2

      Time to brush up on your physics. Gravity is acceleration, even if nothing is moving.

      Accelerometers tell a phone which way is down, if you've rotated the phone, movement gestures, etc.

      Some phones have apps to alter ringtones if it's left face up vs face down. That's the accelerometer sensing that.

    30. Re: Innovation by the_other_chewey · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you have an iPhone you could get a mophie case. It adds durability and batter

      Mmmmmh, deep-fried iPhone...

    31. Re: Innovation by BillX · · Score: 1

      This. The latest crop of MEMS pressure sensors actually have enough resolution to estimate your altitude to within a foot or so, and are sold for exactly this purpose. Combine this pressure reading with local weather (available from your data connection) to cancel out day-to-day barometric fluctuations, and the phone can hit you up with ads targeted to not only what shop you're in, but which floor you're on (GPS has horrible vertical accuracy).

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    32. Re:Innovation by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      But you go and give them a phone that can be run over by a car, and all you hear about is how it's an extra 1.5 mm thicker and an extra 20 grams heavier than the iphone.

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    33. Re:Innovation by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      Interesting though, that the rugged and tough phones now, have better dimensions and weights than the phones people were more than happy with 2 years ago. I think this is a bit of apple/samsung influencing consumer thinking; they say that phones should weigh nothing and be paper thin; they are a big businesses making lost of money so they must be right. Personally i don't care about a couple of mm or a few grams, give me a phone that can be run over by a car (not that i do that very often, but it's good test of strength).

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    34. Re:Innovation by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      hahahahah. and even those with digital watches were sad.

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    35. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't mind a slightly bigger screen. Faster would be a nice bonus. Not enough to replace a perfectly good phone though as these features would mostly just enable more entertainment options. Battery life and durability would be far more important to me. I'd upgrade to a new phone if I new it would last as long as I needed it until I see the next phone and so on.

    36. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think of a much simpler answer. Sensor data showing why they are voiding your warranty and denying a replacement.

    37. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Simply adding existing touchscreens to phones is not 'innovation' neither

      I'd say the innovation lays in how good the finger gestures worked on iPhone 1 and how they designed the whole interface for the hand, as opposed to Microsoft Windows Mobile.

    38. Re:Innovation by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Or maybe it's just that we were happy with what was technologically achievable? I was perfectly happy with my old analogue Motorola brick back in the 90s, that doesn't mean I'd be happy with it today, and this has nothing to do with Apple's influencing my mind, only with Apple and others actually achieving something I want.

      Anyway as I said there's a phone that's on the market for you out there, you just have to look and weigh up the features. As I don't have a tendency to run over my phone or cause any kind of similar force on a small electronic gadget I'm happy with a small thin phone that slides comfortably into my pocket. I not so fondly remember my first own mobile phone, not my dad's Motorola brick, but my own Nokia which despite being the latest and greatest could only be carried around in my schoolbag. I was happy with that back then too.

    39. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the SIM cards (if you are on GSM) support PINs longer than 4 digits.
      So does the unlock code on IOS and Android.
      Android at least also supports ordinary passwords.
      So why in all the world are you using a 4 digit PIN?

    40. Re:Innovation by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      Oh i know these tough phones exist (sony, nokia, motorola are all going for it), but the sales numbers show that more people are interested in apple or samsung thin (maybe because thats what best). Personly i would already have a tough phone but i'm a terrible technology procrastinator; I know all the stuff that's just about to come out so i hold out for that, but then there is even more new stuff just about to comeout. I understand the minimalist approch (my dream phone is a thin flexible about 2X6 inch screen i can wrap around my wrist), but honestly i can hardly tell the difference in a couple of mm or 20 grams especialy when it's in my pocket.

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    41. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if devices didn't break within about 2-3 years.

      What the hell are you smoking? All my first gen Android and iOS devices from around 2008/2009 keep working fine, and that would be around 4/5 years now. You don't use your phones as a hammer do you?

      If devices don't die, people don't upgrade

      Speak for yourself, I give my old devices to family members or friends and buy my shiny stuff whenever I want. Some even appreciate it and give back in other ways.

    42. Re:Innovation by Kjella · · Score: 1

      One key feature of covers is they can come off. I don't have a cover on my phone at home. I do when I'm at work. I'd have broken my phone many times over if it weren't for the cover, but that doesn't mean that I need or want a rugged brick in my pocket.

      This, so very much this. I have a few friends that could use a rugged phone but if at all possible they'd rather take a brick-like case for their iPhone than a real rugged phone. Most of the time they'll get out of the weather to actually talk on the phone anyway, as long as it survives the rest of the day.

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    43. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The caterpillar phone you're referring to is probably the rebranded Sonim (http;//www.sonimtech.com/). In the meantime they've also released the B10, which is a ruggedized Android phone.

      Just like CAT, JCB had a rebranded Sonim, and now also offer an Android phone, but that thing (like the CAT), is stuck at Android 2.3, with no support by Cyanogen Mod.

    44. Re:Innovation by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      i don't want to have to carry a 5 year old nokia in my bag ... because there's 80% chance my main phone will be out of juice when i need it most.

      I carry a spare battery in my bag. Why would an old phone on a separate plan be a better idea?

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    45. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      durability AND battery life. not OR. these 2 features are the only 2 i would happily pay extra for. i don't need the phone to glow blue when orcs are near, pluck my nose hair or keep my crotch cool in summer. I want it to be soft&bendy (TM) so I can sit on it (with keys/coins in the same pocket) and i don't want to have to carry a 5 year old nokia in my bag in case i actually need a phone for emergency, because there's 80% chance my main phone will be out of juice when i need it most.

      Quite a few Android phones are equipped with bluetooth powered add-ons, from diabetic insulin measurement, to pulse and blood pressure monitoring, and reporting to a physician. We can expect more medical appliances based on smart phones.

    46. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A spare battery??

      I have a iphone

    47. Re:Innovation by voidphoenix · · Score: 1

      i don't need the phone to glow blue when orcs are near

      I think this would be an awesome feature. I rather dislike orcs.

    48. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get migraines from changes in air pressure and other weather phenomenon. I would absolutely want my phone to have these features.

    49. Re: Innovation by icebike · · Score: 1

      How would that help you?
      Pressure is going to change anyway.

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    50. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why a barometer? Because it helps me to narrow the list of possible contributors to extreme pain. If I can tie my headache to changes in ambient air pressure AND measure and record them more accurately, I have a very valuable tool in the fight against my own stultifying ignorance. (You seem bright enough, but I don't know you well enough to speak to yours, sorry.)

      And with better search parameters, better insight into how whatever triggers the pain actually happens, and with it the possibility of another avenue for hope in the constant search for meaningful answers in the alleviation of debilitating pain.

      It surprises me this needs explanation. /R

    51. Re: Innovation by icebike · · Score: 1

      Instead of pinning your hopes on a silly cell phone, why not see a specialist?

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    52. Re:Innovation by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Who's 'them'? And anyway the key element to durability is the chassis, so put it in a case if you need extra durability.

    53. Re:Innovation by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      Them is the public voice, it's obviously not all the public because a few people love their tough phones, but if you have a look at the comments about these phones from the broader community you will see what i mean.

      If you put a case over it, it's either going to be weaker than the tough phones or a lot thicker and heavier; it's much easier to strengthen the phone by having a strong chassis and not easily breakable materials from the start, rather than trying to add that function in later via a shell. But every man to their own.

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    54. Re:Innovation by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Them is the public voice, it's obviously not all the public because a few people love their tough phones, but if you have a look at the comments about these phones from the broader community you will see what i mean.

      Can't say i saw a lot of complaints about the ipad3 being heavier and thicker than the ipad2, if anything it would be a minority.

      If you put a case over it, it's either going to be weaker than the tough phones or a lot thicker and heavier; it's much easier to strengthen the phone by having a strong chassis and not easily breakable materials from the start, rather than trying to add that function in later via a shell. But every man to their own.

      Why would it be? The thickness of say the iphone5 chassis is miniscule, so putting a ruggedized case over that is barely going to be thicker than if that ruggedized case was the chassis.

    55. Re:Innovation by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      Are you just trolling me now? Firstly the ipad3 is almost as far away from a tough phone as you can get (I'm talking nokia, sony, motorola. The nokia 920 was run over by a car and you could hardly tell). Secondly if you start with something weak (even if it is thin) and try and wrap it in stuff to make it strong, it almost always has to be thicker than something that was strong to begin with (unless you got some kind of super material or tardis technology), because the strong one is missing all the extra weak things. It's like saying i have this plastic i want to strengthen so i'm going to wrap it in steel, then wondering why it's thicker than steel on it's own. For the iPhone example it would essentially have two cases on it (it's normal glass one and what ever else you are wrapping it in to give it strength); where as something like the nokia would just have one case (it's own skin), that is a bit thicker than the iphone on it's own, but unless the iphone case is very very thin (which makes it hard to be strong) the iphone case combo will be thicker.

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    56. Re:Innovation by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Are you just trolling me now? Firstly the ipad3 is almost as far away from a tough phone as you can get (I'm talking nokia, sony, motorola. The nokia 920 was run over by a car and you could hardly tell).

      I didn't say the ipad3 was a tough phone, you said 'they' would complain that a more ruggedized phone was thicker and heavier but the ipad3 was thicker and heavier than its predecessor and nobody cared then and it wasn't even ruggedized.

      Secondly if you start with something weak (even if it is thin) and try and wrap it in stuff to make it strong, it almost always has to be thicker than something that was strong to begin with (unless you got some kind of super material or tardis technology), because the strong one is missing all the extra weak things.

      The extra weak thing in this case is the aluminium chassis, which is extremely thin, and given that nobody cared when the ipad3 was thicker than the ipad2 and that's without any extra strengthening i doubt anybody putting a ruggedized case on their iphone is going to care about a half millimeter of chassis thickness. Why are you so concerned about that extra 1/2 mm of thickness?

    57. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brush up on your own damn physics.

      You can use your accelerometer as a very rough speedo though (over short times like 0-60, as eventually error in the measurements makes the speed value useless). The easiest way would be to lie the phone flat and forward-facing and then simply integrate the relevant axis over time. More complicated but easier to use: account for gravity and then integrate all axes over time. Combine with a stopwatch for a 0-to-60 timer.

    58. Re:Innovation by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      I'm not really an apple guy, but didn't the ipad 3 bring a lot of other advantages to the table (better screen, battery, processor or something) that could be clouding the response, also you have a lot of people that would buy what ever apple offers them. Look up a few reviews about the 920 and you'll see that thickness is on all of their negative lists. With a case on the iphone it's not only the chassis, with a case on it would go the back of the case, then the back of the phone, then the chassis, then the front glass, then the front of the case; compared to just the back of the phone, then the chassis, then the front glass. I'm not concerned at all about a few mm of thickness, hell i'm still using my old nexus s which is thicker than all the phones and tablets mentioned, I'm just saying the case option is going to end up thicker. Hopefully the big guys will hurry up with the flexible phones, then we can have the best of both worlds.

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    59. Re:Innovation by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Look up a few reviews about the 920 and you'll see that thickness is on all of their negative lists.

      Of course it would be, why would you want it to be thicker? The only reason is if it provides some benefit, which is why people don't mind a few extra mm in thickness from a case because it affords protection.

      With a case on the iphone it's not only the chassis, with a case on it would go the back of the case, then the back of the phone, then the chassis, then the front glass, then the front of the case; compared to just the back of the phone, then the chassis, then the front glass.

      What? The chassis is one piece (sides and back) and then you have the front glass, that's all there is. That aluminium is extremely thin, you could replace it with a rugged chassis instead but given that the rugged version would save about 1/2 a millimeter (because you wouldn't have the aluminium chassis) you might as well just allow users to put on a rugged case (of their choice) on the standard phone if they want it, moreover if the case gets damaged it's easy to replace, if the chassis gets damaged it's not as easy to replace and people will just end up putting a case over the top of it anyway.

      I'm not concerned at all about a few mm of thickness, hell i'm still using my old nexus s which is thicker than all the phones and tablets mentioned, I'm just saying the case option is going to end up thicker.

      Yeah i don't think anybody really cares about a couple mm of thickness.

    60. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also think the Razr series phones can't have the battery replaced simply. Just food for thought.

    61. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like to bake, knowing humidity, temperature and pressure would be great, deal breaking actually.

    62. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is innovative. Allowing people to be innovative on a mass scale by offering innovation platforms is the ultimate innovation, the ultimate kickstarter.

    63. Re: Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to rethink that. Acceleration is the change in velocity over time. If you aren't moving you aren't accelerating. Therefore the accelerometer should read 0 when the item is placed on a flat surface and not moving.

  2. The killer feature would be by fisted · · Score: 5, Interesting

    reasonable battery life. I stick with my dumbphone until that happens.

    1. Re:The killer feature would be by auric_dude · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A privacy app where the user has complete control of everything be it leaking information & data to social networks, their affiliates, partners and assorted purchasers of such stuff. Something along the lines of http://tosdr.org/ or the slumbering https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/06/03-0 .

    2. Re:The killer feature would be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The phone has the dumbest name ever, but get a DROID RAZR MAXX HD. I was very hesitant to switch to a phone without a physical keyboard, but the draw of a smartphone with a marathon battery finally made me switch.

      I'm a road warrior that doesn't always have an outlet available, and I use my phone heavily for email and other communication. I have never managed to get the phone down below 40% during a single day. It's survived - without any charging - a 7:00 AM wake up followed by a full day of use, a redeye transatlantic flight without power, and then another full day of use and still had 10% or so left before I plugged it in at night the next day.

      It's not quite at a week without charging like you might get with a dumb phone, but it's "good enough" as long as you can generally charge it at least once every two days. Which I don't think is unreasonable.

    3. Re:The killer feature would be by digitig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I really miss the ability to make phone calls on the things.

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    4. Re:The killer feature would be by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Using humans as energy source would make them usable for extended periods of time, and won't be a great innovation neither, Matrix did it before.

    5. Re:The killer feature would be by MrL0G1C · · Score: 2

      I think my Galaxy Note II would easily match your dumb-phones battery life for the same usage scenario, it's the games, using maps and browsing the web that kill the battery.

      I charged my phone yesterday, after 22 hours it's at 95% battery.

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    6. Re:The killer feature would be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um... yeah, my old LG c660 will last 2 weeks on a single charge if I just leave it sitting idle in the closet. Standby time isn't the issue. Hasn't been for a long, long time.

    7. Re:The killer feature would be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An app that does this on ROOTED Android, which is very undervalued...

      http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422479

      A slight learning curve... ;) But 100% worth it.

    8. Re:The killer feature would be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      after 22 hours it's at 95% battery.

      You should get that looked at. That is not normal and I bet the battery is the cause. On my S3, I go from completely depleted to full in 2ish hours.

      First, check that your charger/cable is actually sending a 120v signal vs a USB signal (I think the difference is having certain lines soldered together). USB isn't near as robust as the wall (by design).

    9. Re:The killer feature would be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      any privacy app would have to start with control over the leaking of location data to the celltowers

    10. Re:The killer feature would be by KevReedUK · · Score: 1

      I may be wrong, but I think the parent poster meant that after 22 hours the battery had only DIScharged by 5%, not that it had taken 22 hours to charge up to 95%... or were you just being facetious?

      ...Plus, if your charger is throwing a full 120V out the device end, I'd be more than a little concerned!

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  3. The return of the physical keyboard. by sethstorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given that the touchscreen is at best imperfect for keyboard use, bringing back an integrated physical keyboard (e.g. a slider) back to higher-end models would be an innovation.

    There is only so far a touchscreen can go before a full array of physical buttons outclass the screen - especially when it comes to input that doesn't have direct sight.

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    1. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speak for you own. I can type on a touchscreen keyboard as fast as on a real one.
      In addition do the touch based keyboards have an incomparable advantage : different languages possible.
      A physical keyboard limits you to one language, to one input layout. That's not innovative. Physical keyboards on smartphones are old news.
      I need more than one language. (I speak 7 languages...)

      In all seriousness : what's up with you conservative grumpy techies stuck in the old age??? I guess you miss floppy drives, CRTs, Model M keyboards and big beige boxes, too?!

    2. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      No, just a stickler for quality and usability - IPS-panel 4:3 laptops, Model F terminal keyboards, and N900-like-in-openness phone platforms are about what I have here.

      Besides, it's not as if you couldnt make a physical button to remap its visual content. Just need to make it cheaper.

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    3. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by rueger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      bringing back an integrated physical keyboard

      God yes! I'm sure that touchscreen is just divine in southern California, but if you're in the rain, or snow, or it's cold, or your fingers are numb, it's useless. More than once I haven't even been able to answer a phone call because it was raining and the touchscreen was non-responsive.

      The thing that smart phone makers seemed to have missed is that an awful lot of what you use a smartphone for actually requires typing, navigation, and desktop-like functions. As much as I've generally like my Samsung/Nexus phone, I'll probably go Blackberry next time just to have a real keyboard - especially if I can remap some of those keys.

    4. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that the touchscreen is at best imperfect for keyboard use, bringing back an integrated physical keyboard (e.g. a slider) back to higher-end models would be an innovation.

      There is only so far a touchscreen can go before a full array of physical buttons outclass the screen - especially when it comes to input that doesn't have direct sight.

      It is a phone ffs... Use your main device for typing or get a bluetooth keyboard... I never understood these tiny physical keyboards they used to add (and still do on some models) to phones. And as above, innovation would be adding something new. Not rehashing something that should have died a LOOOOOONG time ago.

    5. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HTC tried, both the desire z and the cha cha failed miserably. People do not want keyboards. And for Blackberry, have you looked at their current (BB10) model?

    6. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Have you looked at their next (Q10) model?

    7. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by rueger · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Real keys. And I can make one of them answer the phone, and one more take pictures, I'll be tickled.

    8. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False l there are keyboards that show all faces on them according to your peferences
      Google Lebedev keyboard.

    9. Re: The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Use your nose! I know, it sounds stupid and it looks crazy but I d it all the time when my hands are in gloves at work.

      It is slightly greasier than your finger though...

    10. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Thats the main feature that i miss from the N900 in my N9. The touchscreen keyboard is very bad, or could use swipe, but still feel like wearing boxing gloves when using it compared with what used to do with the sliding keyboard.

      And if well in console have a translucent keyboard to not use screen state while typing, what is still not translucent are my fingers. There are some tests on transparent screens to use the back of the cellphone as keyboard or to interact without putting your hand in the middle, that could be one the kind of innovations that could come in a near future... but still, won't be the tactile feedback that a hardware keyboard give.

    11. Re: The return of the physical keyboard. by GreatDrok · · Score: 1

      I've used slider phones, and others with physical keyboards like Nokia and Blackberry. I type faster on my iPhone than on any of those with physical buttons which would be a step backwards. Bigger screens and longer battery life would help but we're in solid evolution territory now. Expecting massive changes in smartphone design seems unrealistic given how well they now work. I've not even bothered to move from my iPhone 4 because the screen, apps and battery life all fit my needs.

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    12. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sad thing is the original Motorola RAZR pioneered how to make an ultra thin, but still tactile keypad. I never understood why HTC has had such trouble trying to make a thin keypad and kept insisting on splitting their phones in half. Make the keyboard a super thin, but stiff (carbon fiber / magnesium / metallic glass structure) plate that slides out of the phone body or back panel. Make the whole phone only marginally thicker than the mainstream models if you want to succeed.

      The thing which killed the Desire Z, MyTouch Slide & Q, and Sidekick has been their thickness. While consumers had no reasonable justification for their hate of these thicker phones (really, it's going to bulge that much more from your jeans pocket) the fact remains that the consumers are dumb, and do hate these thicker form factors. This is despite the fact that everyone who uses a hardware keyboard for texting and e-mail is vastly happier with the execution and completion of the task. What slider phone users hate is the way other, more ignorant consumers look down at the thicker devices and keyboards and as a resultant, their users.

      Sliders were a peer pressure failure, not so much an engineering or functionality standpoint.

    13. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, a Lebedev keyboard attached to a smartphone.

      *facepalm of galactic proportions*

      Whooosh.

    14. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      That's why I jumped from the N900 to a Captivate Glide once they decided against the N950.

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    15. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by AnotherAnonymousUser · · Score: 1

      This. For the love of God, yes, this.

      I just changed phones because my old phone tried to install Plants vs. Zombies from the Humble Bundle and literally bricked the system, to the point that it doesn't even charge any more and the techs are utterly baffled. I replaced it with a new phone that did away with every single physical button on the front. My previous phone had one tiny nub for navigating left and right. Now, when my phone auto-corrects something, I don't have even the little precision I was accustomed to. The touch-screen can only easily get precision within two characters in any direction, to my constant irritation. The trend away from physical feedback is annoying, and I really hope some of the tactile technologies catch up to give us a rough bar to work with...

    16. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 1

      Or a screen that can develop malleable bumps/ridges for things like keyboard emulation, eventually with force-feedback and that kind of thing. That's what I'd like to see -- the abilities of a keyboard without the breakable moving extra parts.

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    17. Re:The return of the physical keyboard. by Jeng · · Score: 1

      My wife got herself a Samsung Relay which has a keyboard, but T-Mobile has gimped this phone in a few ways. Such as you cannot use Google Voice because T-Mobile wants you to use their new service that is similar, you also cannot do tethering or hotspot without an extra charge, which is free on my old HTC G2.

      It's almost like the phone was designed to be sold by AT&T instead.

      Anyways, my point is the phones with keyboards do still exist. They just aren't very popular.

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  4. Mooshiness by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The next killer feature for smartphones will be phones that you can sit on - well sit on and not break.

    Also, I expect to see them become a little more distributed. A "brain" you leave in your pocket 99% of the time plus seperate UI devices like pebble watch + headset or even google glass.

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  5. Killer feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lethal injection needle, of course.

    1. Re:Killer feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another killer feature:

      The government (feds, other TLAs) send a remote command that forces the battery to explode and kill you.

      Let's hope a warrant is required for that!!

    2. Re:Killer feature by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Playng an MP3 that say "I have a bomb and plan to use it" as soon as the GPS detect that you are in an airport could work as well as killer feature. In fact, that would be a nice cyberwar threat, to plant an app that does just that in a lot of vulnerable cellphones.

  6. It's a mobile sensor and communications platform by St.Creed · · Score: 3

    ... so I expect more sensors in the next wave. And improvement in quality of the existing ones.

    After that, I expect some work on the API's for these sensors. And I expect to see basically ANY type sensor that can be miniaturized in a cheap and effective package to appear on the phone. I've already seen Geiger counters you can attach to a phone - if you could make them small enough, the Japanese market is yours.

    Also nice:
    - A good (near-medical quality) heartrate monitor is doable right now, but would benefit from better color detection in the camera and for Android, a better API. It only works on iPads right now.
    - Stereo microphones would help a lot for sensing distance and possibly volume of rooms.
    - An inbuilt laser for medium distance measurement would combine VERY nicely with a lot of other sensors.
    - that extreme wideband radar that can see through walls and clothing
    - infrared sensors

    As for other features: apart from the sensors, the communication and the processing power? I think user interface options like laser keyboards. And output options such as the pico-beamers you can already buy. It all needs to become much smaller, but then it would certainly add value.

    The main feature: energy storage. We really need better batteries.

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  7. 1800s by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    I can't give a whole answer but I when I had a flip phone I really felt like I was a train conductor in the 1800s pulling out my flip phone to check the time. I still feel that having this big lump in my pocket is fairly stupid. I do like the idea of a watch seeing that it was a convenient replacement for the pocket watch. But it has three failings that I haven't seen and can't think of how to solve and those are getting the sound into your ear, viewing a larger screen, and how to type text messages into your wrist.

    People are blah blahing about google glasses and this solves two probems of getting sound into your ear and getting a larger screen but data entry is still a problem. I don't see voice commands as being something that will really work. In many places it would be funny to run up to people and yell "Google Glasses Open (insert most disgusting website you can think of here)" But there are too many quiet places where even mumbling to your glasses will not work. Plus wearing glasses when you don't need them is a bit of a pain.

    So limiting my prediction to the near future I see people with a smart phone tucked away in a pack or deep in a pocket, a wrist interface that gives them limited interaction with their phone, and a Saul Goodman style earpiece when they need to talk. But I do foresee some ingenious texting interfaces for the wrist where you can dial up common responses to other people's texts. Maybe your phone will predict your top 10 probable responses and you can select on of those most of the time and dig the lump out of your pocket when you need to do something more advanced.

    One big prediction that would even bet on is that for those people who don't maintain a home PC that they will be the people who get the ginormous screened phones. With a ginormous phone(borderline iPad mini sized) and a tiny watch thing you would be pretty well off for most media consumption and not be forced to hold a brick up to your ear.

    1. Re:1800s by n3tm0nk · · Score: 1

      Well, for getting sound to your ears, there is always bluetooth and speech-to-text could do for texting, or you could use a small bluetooth keypad....

    2. Re:1800s by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Hopefully these guys can solve that problem.

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    3. Re:1800s by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

      Your link isn't working but getmyo.com is where you meant to sent me. Very cool; assuming that it works I can remember the first time I saw someone with a bluetooth earpiece talking in front of our library on their cellphone. They had hair covering their ears so to me they were walking back and fourth arguing with nobody. I thought it was odd for someone so well dressed to have joined the ranks of crazies that hover near the library. Then I finally caught a glimpse of an ear thingy.

      So with this gesture thing I anticipate that same early adopter in front of the library waving his hands like a nutbar and confusing me once again.

  8. Mech engineering has failed. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You read any issue of popular science or popular mechanics 50 years ago. All the science fictiony futuristic thingies have come true on the electrical side. TV that hangs like a picture on the wall? Done. Video phones? Done. The entire knowledge of human race at your fingertips? Done. (Though a little disappointed 50% of the knowledge of human race consists of cat videos).

    Now on the mech engineering side. Where is my commuter car-plane that is parked on my drive way? huh? What about the high speed trains running in vacuum tunnels going from NY to LA in 90 minutes? Still the same internal combustion engine burning the same damned oil. What happened to crystallic fusion? Dont tell me "aah, we got double As".

    Civil, you are not off the hook either. Where the hell is my damned home that is mounted on a pivot that tracks the sun? All engineering fields except electronics have been slacking on the job and have a very disappointing track record.

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    1. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crystallic fusion? Look up the most recent theories on what was previously derided as "cold fusion".... now being called LENR "low energy nuclear reaction"; seems there is something going on after all, and it has nothing to do with fusion that we are familiar with based on the strong nuclear force, but rather is something new, previously unrecognized type of weak force process.

      Just give it time.....

    2. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by potpie · · Score: 1

      Just give it time.....

      About, say, twenty years?

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    3. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Though a little disappointed 50% of the knowledge of human race consists of cat videos).

      I share your disappointment. We need more cat videos.

    4. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where the hell is my damned home that is mounted on a pivot that tracks the sun?

      How many Polish engineers did it take to come up with that idea?

    5. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by a_mari_usque_ad_mare · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, there is quite a bit new in mechanical engineering. You may not be aware of these advances because these things to do not necessarily translate into consumer products or marketing, despite the fact that they solve useful problems and improve our lives.

      In materials we have composites, which are extremely strong for their weight. Tough to design, though. Like computing, this started around the 60s and has become more and more sophisticated. The Boeing 787 and other planes use modern composites to greatly reduce weight and save fuel. We have much better steels and other metals than a generation ago, for example google dual phase steels.

      Biomedical engineering is mostly mechanical engineering; it involves the design of medical implants. Modern materials can make stronger and lighter replacement bones such as hips. Artificial organs are on the horizon, a real artificial heart has been built and used successfully.

      In fluids, we have much better and more optimized airplanes. With computers and the Finite Element Method (FEA), aerodynamics has become much more quantifiable and less model testing is needed. I'm actually glad that aircraft have not been sold at the amateur, consumer level. The way people drive in North America, flying cars would end our so-called civilization. Fluids has also helped design more efficient engines and generators.

      All the things I mention solve real problems, and may be classified under the umbrella of mechanical engineering. Its a broad field, so abit hard to define, but in my view anything that requires non-trivial application of mechanics, materials, or thermodynamics can be called mechanical engineering.

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    6. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by afgam28 · · Score: 2

      The commuter car-plane was a bad idea in the first place. If anything it would be the sci fi writers - not the mechanical engineers - who failed.

      Also, I don't think it'd be hard to build a home that tracks the sun. There are plenty of revolving restaurants all around the world. But like the flying car, it's just more trouble than it's worth for most buildings.

    7. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Electrical engineers have delivered because they aren't hampered by social problems. Putting a flat TV on the wall involves only a little cost to the consumer that is able to payback the R&D budget. The rest of the things on your list? Well lets look at them one at a time:

      Flying cars? Driving cars on the road is currently the biggest cause of death in most western countries. Now we want to put people in the air, in a contraption that has a minimum speed and requires potentially years to master vs 6 months of driver training? Before this will become a reality we need a system allowing the cars to automatically levitate in place, not fly. Then we need a system of regulation. I see neither happening in my lifetime.

      High speed trains in vacuum tunnels? I don't see a project costing more than $100bn getting off the ground without covering a serious number of commuters. The LA to NY vactrain? Apparently estimates were as high as $1trillion. It's not mechanical engineering that has let you down here. It's cost. The project is constructable with current technology.

      I disagree that your combustion engine is the same. Yes the oil is the same but we have made strides in efficiency (maybe not fuel economy but certainly combustion efficiency). The amount of torque pulled out of a modern diesel or modern petrol engine leaves old vehicles in the dust, and that without burning lead to reduce engine knocking, or belching large amounts of sulphur and unburnt particulates into the air. Plus we're in the age now of regenerative breaking, and while electrical engineers have come to the rescue with batteries and motors, flywheels are being used actively in racing and there's been talk of some cars using them too.

      Crystallic fusion? Well not all electrical forecasts have come true either.

    8. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      Where is my commuter car-plane that is parked on my drive way?

      Now: Not feasible until we have really good AI auto pilots. Future: Killed by noise regulation.

      What about the high speed trains running in vacuum tunnels going from NY to LA in 90 minutes?

      Not worth the cost because most people will just move to the city where they work or where their spouse lives. Come to think of it, it may actually become reality if housing prices continue to soar...

      Still the same internal combustion engine burning the same damned oil.

      That's slowly changing , but the electric motor is still held back by the lack of decent battery technology. It's gonna take decades to switch to electrics and hybrids.

      What happened to crystallic fusion?

      I don't know if that would be viable, but the government money went into tokamaks, which will be commercialized in (50 + 1*numOfYears) years from now...

      Where the hell is my damned home that is mounted on a pivot that tracks the sun?

      Too expensive and/or killed by NIMBY groups.

      Generally speaking it's a lot easier to mess around with information than to mess around with matter.

    9. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In materials we have composites, which are extremely strong for their weight.

      As a materials scientist, I'll claim this one for us. You can keep the rest for the mech. engineers if you like, I don't care.

    10. Re:Mech engineering has failed. by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think the commuterpult would be much more efficient and practical. I blame the sci-fi writers for failing to soften up public acceptance of that mode of transportation (the Robots cartoon notwithstanding)

  9. Transactions by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    There are a number of startups out there really focused on getting money transfers going for cell phones. Like this one.

    Based on the number of companies doing it, and their high profiles, I would guess that doing money transfers on phones is something that is about to take off soon. The hurdles are mostly regulatory and network based (you need to connect with the network), and with so many people trying to take on the problem, I imagine one of them at least will be able to make it through.

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    1. Re:Transactions by icebike · · Score: 1

      Money transfers via phone already exist, however they have been effectively road blocked in the US by the carriers. Its much more common
      in Japan.

      Why carriers get a veto over payment by phone is beyond me. Its just TCP/IP and a short range transceiver. Google introduced NFC payments only to have every network except one step up and block it, even if your phone is properly equipped.

      I want my car keys, house keys embedded into my phone, with a separate battery that lasts as long as the battery in my Car's Keyless Fob. I want the phone to stop being anything except a phone when its outside of my reach. Shut it all down if it can't see me or the ring on my finger.

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    2. Re:Transactions by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      That's a software issue, not a hardware issue. Money transfer by phone is already very popular in places like Africa and it is often done on dumb phones.

    3. Re:Transactions by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      It's not a software issue either, it's convincing the banks (and others) to let you connect to their systems. Once you can do that, the software is easy enough to make.

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  10. That'd be mandatory for Chinese models by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Post something against the government, receive lethal execution. Then their organ harvesting vans could pick them up promptly, aided with the location feature of the phone.

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    1. Re:That'd be mandatory for Chinese models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      American models would be the same, in case you turn out to be a terrorist.

  11. PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you can bring all the powerfulness of your PC in your pocket

    1. Re:PC by icebike · · Score: 1

      When you can bring all the powerfulness of your PC in your pocket

      Really?
      Other than the dual 30 inch displays and full keyboard, what can your desktop PC do that your phone can't?
      Oh right, run full powered graphics while plugged into the wall. I think I'll skip the extension cord if you
      don't mind.

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  12. Tricording by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Duh.

  13. something rounded by thexile · · Score: 0

    rounded triangles!

    1. Re:something rounded by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      Pentile already has that covered for you - it's just a matter of visual perception.

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  14. The ability to make it unrootable by houghi · · Score: 0

    because that is what the customers want. What? You thought you were the customer? Sorry, you are renting it from the REAL customers: the telco's.

    All the rest will be around how good they can track you and how easy they can take money from you.

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    1. Re:The ability to make it unrootable by icebike · · Score: 1

      because that is what the customers want. What? You thought you were the customer? Sorry, you are renting it from the REAL customers: the telco's.

      All the rest will be around how good they can track you and how easy they can take money from you.

      The telcos don't give a fig about rooting. They just don't want to back the warranty for people who root phones.
      Simple solution: Forbid telco's from selling phones. We don't see comcast selling TVs, and we don't see power
      companies selling Toasters and Lamps, or ISPs selling Computers.

      So why do phone companies sell handsets?

      The sooner that Retailing handsets is take away from the carriers the better.

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  15. Ask no more... by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:Ask no more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some Google employee obviously got told to shove their smartphone up their ass, and got ideas.

    2. Re:Ask no more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG. I can see this guy being sued for all sorts of stuff... That shit is private. What happens when the boyfriend or an employer finds out and installs the app... you get the picture. Stupidest patent ever. WOW

    3. Re:Ask no more... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Some Google employee obviously got told to shove their smartphone up their ass, and got ideas.

      I don't think you quite understand what google.com/patents is.

    4. Re:Ask no more... by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Wonderful.

      Tampon sensors.... OK, next innovation is phone that wipes your ass. Make it look like 3 sea shells and you solve one of the great mysteries of the universe.

  16. The real innovation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is in software, not hardware. Smartphones are about smart software, nothing else.

  17. Give back what you took away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A keyboard an full OS.

  18. Battery life by chevelleSS · · Score: 1

    I think Heterogenous computing will play a key roll in increasing battery life in the next few years. AMD, ARM and Samsung among others have been working to get an API together that will allow regular code to work on a CPU or a GPU depending on which will perform the best as long as the processor and GPU are on the same piece of silicon and share the same memory cache. Studies (http://pbbakkum.com/db/) have shown that sqlite gets a 15% performance increase (or less power usage per query) by running the database off a GPU, and Oracle (http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-and-Oracle-Team-Up-for-Heterogeneous-Computing-on-Java-295882.shtml) is working on project "Sumatra" which will allow Java applications to get better performance with less power. Tie this in with Samsung creating a new HSA enabled device, and we could see some interesting changes in the phone market!

    1. Re:Battery life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're beginning to put 8000ma batteries into tablets, currently used as usb backup power. Put one in an ultra-thin smartphone and it could run for a week, though ymmv.

  19. KB by Swoopy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I want my slide-out keyboard to return. In Europe. On an Android 4.2.2+ phone with sufficient horsepower and working memory, please?

  20. The next killer feature: by excitedidiot · · Score: 1

    One word: Teledildonics.

    1. Re:The next killer feature: by bobamu · · Score: 2

      One word: Teledildonics.

      The thought of that being a killer feature is quite terrifying.

  21. Rimless screens by fons · · Score: 1

    That's what I want. A full surface screen.

    That could make your phone beautiful.

  22. Computer Integration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can add that for tablets. Seriously, why do neither of these devices have proper support for extending your computer to them? At he OS level, not simply the App level. transfer of files, control of your screen, etc, after sync and activation of the device via USB orsomething?

    maybe google can make a proper quite of software to address this, and add it to Android. Mediaplayer/iTunes/winamp remote, browser transfer (and how about a decent browser to go with it), extended video display (tablet/phone act as an extra monitor in echoe or extension mode), media streaming to device,

    make the phone and tablet actually work WITH the desktop device, instead of repeating everything done on it over and over again via a multiude of resource hogging apps.

  23. 2 Days of battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Screw all that other crap. I need 2 days of expected battery life so that after 2 yrs of use, 1 day will actually be possible.

    That doesn't mean babying the device either. I need to leave wifi, cell phone, and GPS running 48 hrs, plus have 10 apps running the entire time.

    Last weekend, I was in Seoul trying to use a city guide app, a subway app, take a few panorama photos, and use local wifi whenever available. The Nexus 4 battery was fully charged when I started out at 7am. by 2pm, it was down to 10%. Unacceptable.

    Battery life. Please, please, please.

    1. Re:2 Days of battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your smartphone runs at about 4 watts then you could try and run it on teh cold fusions

    2. Re:2 Days of battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Screw all that other crap. I need 2 days of expected battery life so that after 2 yrs of use, 1 day will actually be possible.

      Why not just buy a new battery, when it gets to that state?

  24. Smaller... by n3tm0nk · · Score: 1

    I am ready to see the smart phone go the way of the do-do. I am waiting for cell-phone watches to move along a bit. Small, unobtrusive, out-of-sight. Big smart-phones are the equivalent of bling......they look cool, but don't really add anything to my life except another toy to have to replace when it is sat upon, dropped or stolen. They are kind of like the equivalent of sports cars. "Look at my phone. Imagine how big my genitalia must be..." meh...

    1. Re:Smaller... by afgam28 · · Score: 1

      Big (bigger than a watch - not necessarily something ridiculous like 6.3 inches) screens are useful for things like maps and ebooks.

      Also, some people actually buy sports cars because they're fun to drive.

    2. Re:Smaller... by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      I'm with you mate, mainly because i want less in my pockets (already got enough in my pants :)). A little 2 by 6 inch flexible screen i strap around my wrist, but can easily be taken off and able to to read my email, SMSs, check maps (preferably with offline access), and some quick internet browsing. I don't need the sensors that tells me when to go to the toilet or anything, but one that measures the different stages of sleep would be handy.

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  25. Tricorder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just a few more sensors, add the right apps, smartphone becomes a tricorder, or at least as close as we can get with current technology.

  26. Optical Zoom by kervin · · Score: 1

    With Smartphones used so much for photography now, it's sad that we don't have at least 1-2x optical zoom on most phones.

    Medical sensors are definitely more important. But I believe optical zoom would be used more overall.

    And yes, it would be innovative because it's apparently a very difficult problem to solve on a massive scale and within a marketable pricepoint.

    1. Re:Optical Zoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My phone already has 1x zoom!

    2. Re:Optical Zoom by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      With Smartphones used so much for photography now, it's sad that we don't have at least 1-2x optical zoom on most phones

      Look at the size of the lens on even a low end digital camera that has optical zoom. There is a reason why digital cameras take better pictures than phones and it has nothing to do with how many megapixels there are. When gathering light, through a lens, size matters.

    3. Re:Optical Zoom by shervinemami · · Score: 1

      But phones don't have to be so small that they can't fit proper camera hardware. I already carry a 1/2" digicam in my pocket, so I'd be happy to replace it with a 1/2" phone that includes a digicam-level lens & camera sensor.

      Sure there is always going to be a market for people that want smaller & smaller phones, but also there is a market for people that want phones as large as a digicam, if it means much better camera system, much bigger battery, potentially a larger keypad, and potentially shutter & zoom buttons on the side of the phone so you can actually use it like a digicam.

  27. Primary Function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Capturing some of the comments above and my own, I'd like to get back to basics.
    - voice calls whether it's by mobile phone provider or Skype.
    - real keyboard.

    So the short version:
    N900 style with the best of Nokia plus the latest hardware with the clean software of Google Nexus.

    and no FB integration!

    1. Re: Primary Function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like a Sony Xperia Mini Pro with Cyanogenmod? Also survives being sat on. :)

    2. Re: Primary Function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sad it's sony, i never really got over the ps3 other os debacle.

  28. modular devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:modular devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh hell yes. I was looking into starting my own business doing just that, but trying to deal with all the big corporations that make the components was a nightmare. I would like to see screen also replaceable (which is a giant job because of all the different standards all the different screens work on) and cases made from 3d printing.

  29. keep it all, give me better battery life by sleigh · · Score: 1

    To hell with the humidity sniffers and the rest. I most want a phone with a battery good for at least three days at my current usage patterns, which right now give me like 1/2 a day. I hate having to tether my phone to a charger everywhere I go during the day.

    I have an idea. Stop making the phone thinner so you can brag about it being the thinnest. How about make a version of the top phone that's actually thicker, and then brag about battery life? You know, how Motorola did with the Razr Max?

  30. Decent sounding phone calls by ebob · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't mind the rush to add more features to phones, but I wish more effort could be spent on the obvious missing feature: better voice quality. Now that internet bandwidths are high enough to stream HD video, why can't we have intelligible voice communication? I can make a VOIP call from my smartphone that sounds like a land line. But a regular phone call is often so garbled that you spend more time saying "WHAT?" than communicating.

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    1. Re:Decent sounding phone calls by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 2

      Amen, brother!

      The audio quality of cellular voice calls has been falling for years. My first analog cell phone sounded pretty darn good when I wasn't at the edge of a service area. Cost me $25-30/month for the service. It's been a downhill slide since then. Now I've got a device that retailed for $700 new (it's already been discontinued so you can't buy then new any more) with a $115/month service contract and it sounds worse than a $9.99 wired land line phone.

      I've been hearing for years how US carriers are working on higher quality voice calls but none of them have actually done it.

    2. Re:Decent sounding phone calls by Skapare · · Score: 1

      They said "quality"??? I think they meant to say "quantity".

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    3. Re:Decent sounding phone calls by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      A mobile phone that is good at making phone calls? Fascinating.

      (fwiw, I had one of those old-school phone handsets that plugged into the 2.5mm jack on older phones and the call quality was fantastic. It's entirely in the speaker/mic, not the network).

      My c. '98 Nokia TDMA phone also had decent sound quality on the built-in gear.

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    4. Re:Decent sounding phone calls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever heard of Lumia 920? I bought the phone and it has truly an amazing audio quality. I know it is very politically incorrect to say that Windows Phone from Nokia is any good but this phone truly has a fantastic call quality. I used iPhone, Samsung Galaxy, various LG phones and none of them comes even close. Just try it if you want call quality. You should use gloves so that you would not catch virus or some evil spirits from M$ though :)

  31. Nothing to do with your cock by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    "Look at my phone. Imagine how big my genitalia must be..."

    You could not be father from the truth. Penile insecurity is not the reason for larger screen...they simply offer a larger viewing area. Ironically earlier adopters of pablet [tabone maybe] were small women...not sausage finger 7' Men as I would have expected, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out why [and It wasn't due to a gaping V-J]...it was because they have handbags.

    Hopefully its if and not when Apple decide to expand their product line to include a mini and a maxi phone, otherwise they are in danger of losing relevance even faster than they are now. And we will continue to have drivel about the one true phone propaganda for the like of you.

    1. Re:Nothing to do with your cock by n3tm0nk · · Score: 1

      Well, I realize that a larger screen offers a larger viewing area, but the reason people buy them is totally different. The vast majority of people I know who own an Iphone or Galaxy maxi-phone ( as you so eloquently describe them) never use it to do anything but make phone calls, text, check email, take pictures and play music. That's it. I can do all of that on a much smaller device that has little or no bling potential and actually serves a useful purpose to me. Hey, I don't care what u use, I jut just being judgmental and close-minded in an effort to make the clock tick a little faster.....

    2. Re:Nothing to do with your cock by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 1

      Font, button/key size & the amount of visible info are all affected by screen size. As people age (particularly over 30), the font size that they can *comfortably* read even with "good" vision gradually increases; enlarging the font decreases the amount of visible information and often isn't an option at all. Likewise, the size of an on-screen button/key that they can consistently tap shifts upward with age, and even with a 4" screen it starts getting crowded (at best) very quickly if you shift their size upward.

      I don't have trouble seeing on my 4" phone (yet) but I *have* noticed that I get an annoying sense of being 'closed in' when trying to do things like organize my to-do list & schedule. Also, the only keyboard I like, SwiftKey takes up 70-80% of the screen, which causes real problems when an app won't let me scroll to see the last input areas.

      So it actually makes perfect sense that the people you know would want larger screens -- it makes the phone more comfortable for them to use.

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  32. Probably.... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 3, Funny

    What do you think will be the next generation of killer features for smartphones?

    Probably biofeedback sensors that can transmit as well as receive. That way, not only can your smart phone monitor your heart rate, it can send a pulse to stop it, too. That would definitely be a killer feature.

    1. Re:Probably.... by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      What do you think will be the next generation of killer features for smartphones?

      Probably biofeedback sensors that can transmit as well as receive. That way, not only can your smart phone monitor your heart rate, it can send a pulse to stop it, too. That would definitely be a killer feature.

      That's what de-fibrillators actually do when your heart rythm goes bad, de-fibs send an impulse that stops the heart, essentially killing you. Then, in most cases, the heart resets itself, and beats normally.

      For my phone, an FM radio and IR programmable remote control, 2 features some models had and you don't see anymore. Why??

    2. Re:Probably.... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      What do you think will be the next generation of killer features for smartphones?

      Probably biofeedback sensors that can transmit as well as receive. That way, not only can your smart phone monitor your heart rate, it can send a pulse to stop it, too. That would definitely be a killer feature.

      That's what de-fibrillators actually do when your heart rythm goes bad, de-fibs send an impulse that stops the heart, essentially killing you. Then, in most cases, the heart resets itself, and beats normally.

      For my phone, an FM radio and IR programmable remote control, 2 features some models had and you don't see anymore. Why??

      Because if you are listening to FM radio, then they can't monetize it. As for the IR, I miss that, too.

  33. Add A Radiation Detection Sensor aka Fukushima by chaosdivine69 · · Score: 1

    With the world going to HE double hockey sticks, perhaps someone wants to add a radiation detector to a phone? Fukushima, North Korea, Iran, Taco Time Burritos...it all adds up!

  34. A little more GNU plese. by tuppe666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Personally I want to move control over the phone from the company...to me. Android is the best option out their right now, but its a long way from being an optimum solution. Increasingly they are becoming devices others control.

  35. How about better networks by gelfling · · Score: 1

    All the features in the world don't matter when you have typically horrible service. Or at least a feature that allows me to nuke Sprint.

  36. software defined radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    software defined radio, so you can move phone from different networks without worrying about if your phone is gsm cdma or whatever

  37. What's next for smartphone innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's not quite an innovation, but how hard would it be to take for designers to forget planned obsolescence, pull their heads out of their fundamental orifices and simply make them waterproof?

  38. how about a real keyboard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    since touchscreen isn't reliable that's what i'm looking for in my next android phone.

  39. Sensors by rvw · · Score: 1

    What's next for smartphones is not in the phone, it's outside the phone. I think we will see sensors - yes maybe in the form of a (i)watch - that communicate with the phone, and that gather and send data like heart rate, position, nfc. They will work independently, have their own batteries, have a much longer battery life, no lcd screen, maybe an epaper screen.

  40. No wonder phones are so crap by Let's+All+Be+Chinese · · Score: 1

    The "analysts" are, too. On top of that, phones are still a "platform" to deliver "an experience" ment only to please you insofar it lets the carrier "own" you. Thus the walled gardens. Thus the NFC push, with a secure element in your phone that isn't owned by you. It owns you, instead.

    In that context, any and all extra sensors is more ways to spy on you. That is all.

    What I'd like? As a phone, a device that lets me connect with the rest of the world. As a computing device something that lets me run my own code and have full control over every aspect of the hardware. Yes, down to the GSM stack, and it's possible. Combining, a device that shows me the available ways of communication and lets me take full advantage of every one in reach, any way I'd like. Enhanced by my own apps.

    This is something quite different than the "seamless integrated experience" that apple does so well -- we already have that, thank you. Now for a raw power in my hands communication tool.

    Plus, robust hardware that actually performs above and beyond "tickbox level" that fails to deliver when pushed (looking at you, "enterprise class" nokia phones). Good battery life. In that context, linux is and always be too heavy, simply because it contains too much code and never was designed for low-power use. You can get a long way, sure, but never quite as far as, say, psion got (before nokia fucked it up under the symbian moniker).

    And then there's this: Privacy. Every single phone fails on this point in at least one way. Pity we'd need different protocols to really make it happen (ought to be part of 5G, so EU, if you're listening, make it a requirement for the subsidies you're tossing the phone industry for making 5G happen). Smartphones fail on this in more than one way, and there's really no way to fix that in the current models, so better models are needed. As well as more due dilligence. Too bad we'll only get a little fake bit of the latter, no more.

    But for starters, I'll take a dual-sim (micro sim, no smaller) candybar no thicker than a centimetre, fits in trouser pocket, with a basic camera, 3.5mm jack, micro sd, wifi, voip, tethering, modem with working fax support (that really is but a SMOP, but occasionally oh so useful), basic packet data support, voice encryption, at least a week of stand-by, and cyanogenmod support or equivalent under some other OS. This obviously fits the models of exactly nobody who has any influence on what sort of phones will become available.

    And so the notion of "innovation" among phones will remain rather vapid, as usual and by now entirely expected.

    1. Re:No wonder phones are so crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It just so happens I am working on a phone that satisfies every need you listed, and more. Keep your hopes up, bro....we won't be dwelling in today's digital hell forever.

      nathan dot cline at google mail

  41. Hint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPhone owners aren't the ones that need more battery power.

  42. Just get an iPhone and use 3G by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    reasonable battery life. I stick with my dumbphone until that happens.

    The iPhone 5 today, gets around two days of battery.

    However a significant portion of the battery use is LTE. If you are willing to have a somewhat slower network, the iPhone may make it three or four days (can't confirm, have not tried).

    The point is that if battery life is an issue for you, then look at a platform that has all along been ensuring that battery life is preserved when possible.

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    1. Re:Just get an iPhone and use 3G by mactard · · Score: 1

      Your battery life is going to be better on LTE if you're in an area where the coverage isn't too spotty. LTE = terrible battery life is a 2 year old meme. It doesn't hold up now that we have integrated 22nm radios.

    2. Re:Just get an iPhone and use 3G by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iPhone 5 today, gets around two days of battery.

      Bullshit! The iPhone 5 only has a 1440 mAh battery. Even using 3G you wouldn't get more than 12 hours of real usage. Faggots like you who whip out your phone and call your boyfriend for 2 minutes then spend the next 8 hours blowing each other, doesn't count as "REAL" usage. Ride the subway for 45 minutes surfing the web and see how long your battery lasts. Idiot.

  43. No we will not build you new buggy whips by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Given that the touchscreen is at best imperfect for keyboard use, bringing back an integrated physical keyboard

    I would be with you except that any keyboard that fits in or around a smartphone is ALSO imperfect. I HATED all of the physical keyboards, even the Blackberry... I can type more accurately and with larger keys on a virtual on-screen keyboard.

    That is why they went away, because they really are not better at all.

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  44. Air quality sensors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soon your smartphone will be able to sniff every fart you cut loose.

    1. Re:Air quality sensors? by Skapare · · Score: 1

      ... and provide it to all your contacts.

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  45. Re:It's a mobile sensor and communications platfor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After that, I expect some work on the API's for these sensors. And I expect to see basically ANY type sensor that can be miniaturized in a cheap and effective package to appear on the phone. I've already seen Geiger counters you can attach to a phone - if you could make them small enough, the Japanese market is yours.

    There is already an andriod app that does this all you need is a piece of tape to put over the camera CCD which acts as a geiger tube. I don't know about the accuracy but supposedly it has no problem detecting background.

  46. True innovation? by rickb928 · · Score: 2

    Flexible screen.

    Multiple screens that couple into one larger screen.

    Laser keyboard.

    Projector.

    Dockable to make a useful notebook replacement.

    Or a totally flexible phone that survives your back pocket. And doesn't trigger the humidity sensor.

    Voice commands? How about I get a text from my wife, and I say "tell her I'm on my way" and the phone replies accurately. Of a call comes in and I say 'I'll call back later" and the call is answered with an appropriate voice response.

    I'm never going to make these happen, so use these ideas and make a million. You're welcome.

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  47. Re :..platform; in 1965 SF author Frederik Pohl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'invented' a device called the 'Joymaker':

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joymaker

    "The remote-access computer transponder called the "joymaker" is your most valuable single possession in your new life. If you can imagine a combination of telephone, credit card, alarm clock, pocket bar, reference library, and full-time secretary, you will have sketched some of the functions provided by your joymaker. - from the novel 'Age of the Pussyfoot'

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_the_Pussyfoot

    Except for the described pharmaceutical capabilities, it sounds a lot like something that should be available ,like ...NOW; or at least within the next couple of years!

    Siri and google's voice input aps are not QUITE up to the joymaker's standard. The medical-treatment and chemo-recreational capabilities will probably be a long-time-comming, but for political, not technical reasons. On the other hand, Pohl's technology relied on large timeshared computers for processing power; a Nexus 7 would probably been considered pure SF in 1965 (Quad GHz processor!?! GIGABYTES of memory?!? Is that a supercomputer in your pocket?).

  48. Make it Generic, Please by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I want a generic revolution in smart phones. Android goes part way there, but not far enough.

    I don't want anything to come from the carrier except packets and monthly bill. Like my ISP. Phone branding by the carrier should just go away. Spectrum should not belong to anyone. Carrier should just be licensed to use the National Allocated Spectrum by the FCC.

    Phones should be modular. Want to upgrade the phone battery? Or radio? Add a keyboard? Not a problem. Root access should be expected, not something that has to be obtained by hacking.

    1. Re:Make it Generic, Please by pherthyl · · Score: 1

      >> I want a generic revolution in smart phones. Android goes part way there, but not far enough.

      The iPhone has been all the way there since it was created. Nothing comes from the carrier except the packets and the bill. Problem solved.

      >> Phones should be modular. Want to upgrade the phone battery? Or radio? Add a keyboard? Not a problem.

      This is nonsense. Upgrade the radio? You have no idea how infeasible that is unless you'd like to return to suitcase phones from the 80s.
      And you can already add a keyboard, it's called Bluetooth.

    2. Re:Make it Generic, Please by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      I'd rather not have a bill at all. Taxes should pay for basic communication in the same way it pays for our roads.

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    3. Re:Make it Generic, Please by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Your iPhone also has a SIM does it not? And how about carrier profiles? Hmmmm.....

  49. ePaper screen by symbolset · · Score: 2
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  50. The feature I want is ... by Skapare · · Score: 1

    ... probably going to be rather hard to implement right now. But maybe it can happen in a decade or so when they figure out the "hardware" for this. I want seamless elasticity. That is, the phone should be able to stretch and shrink (not fold or slide parts) in either or both directions, and hold the size (e.g. NOT snap back like a rubber band). And of course it should notify apps what size the phone is now.

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  51. I disagree by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simply adding existing sensors to phones is not 'innovation'.

    I disagree. There are a million different kinds of sensors that could be added. Innovation is almost NEVER about parts that are wholly new. It's about combinations of things that at first are not apparently that much related and using them in, dare I say it, innovative ways.

    A light sensor for example, I personally would not have thought to add to a phone to use to turn off the display when held to the face. I'm not saying it's Apple that did that first, but that to me is a true innovation despite light sensors being around forever.

    Even figuring out a clever use for sensors already put in phones can be innovative.

    I would also note that just because sensors get smaller and need less power it's not exactly obvious that they should go a in a personal computing device. X-Ray sensors are probably smaller and use less power than they used to but I don't find it an obvious fact they will be in future phones.

    On a side note, those who proclaim nothing Apple has ever done is innovation are truly the ones who have robbed the word of real meaning. In an effort to spite Apple they have made true innovation an impossible goal.

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    1. Re:I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I don't find it an obvious fact they will be in future phones.

      This is the one thing travellers do need. I want a phone that screams 'terrorist attack' whenever I (it) experiences a high-frequency radiation field.

  52. Re:No, we will reintroduce good features like kb's by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Try not looking at your screen and trying to type - spontaneously. The lack of feedback from that screen is going to make that harder compared to having less time dedicated to looking at the keyboard versus looking at the screen and getting more precise feedback from the keyboard.

    That flat touchscreen just doesn't cut it when the touchscreen ends up being out of order.

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  53. Those were mid-level models aside from the BB. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    If you put flagship level performance and promote them as such, then you'll have the support.

    The only reason those "failed" was that they were mid-tier phones and not top-tier ones (as done before with QWERTY).

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  54. Re:No, we will reintroduce good features like kb's by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Try not looking at your screen and trying to type - spontaneously.

    Ok, works fine.

    That's because touch-typing relies not on having a keyboard but muscle memory about where the keys are. Which works fine on a touch screen when you have been typing on it for a while.

    I can type "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" without looking, with only the word jumped (turned into junkie by autocorrect) needing fixing.

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  55. MAKE THEM SMALLER!!!!!! by utkonos · · Score: 1

    Make phones that are the size of the HTC Aria/Liberty/Intruder!!!! Then we'll talk. Everything larger than that size is horrible and unwieldy. There is no technical reason why smartphones are so bulky.

    1. Re:MAKE THEM SMALLER!!!!!! by crutchy · · Score: 1

      "phablets" will be all the rage, and Samsung is about to flood the market with the Galaxy Mega (5.8 inch screen)

    2. Re:MAKE THEM SMALLER!!!!!! by Shompol · · Score: 1

      I use my phone as a killer ebook reader/ebrowser that fits in the pocket, always on, connected, and with me. I need it to be as big as possible but still fit in the pocket comfortably, lest I will need to carry a man-purse for it. My estimate is 6 to 7 inch diagonal will fit the bill. I really dont care what it looks like when used as a phone :)

    3. Re:MAKE THEM SMALLER!!!!!! by utkonos · · Score: 1

      My concern is not what it looks like at all. When I made the switch from dumb phone to smart phone, I didn't want something larger than my old phone taking up too much room in my pocket. The Aria was slightly larger than what I wanted at the time, but in hindsight, it was the best choice. Now there are barely any alternatives to having a phone that barely fits in one's pocket.

      I keep looking up Chinese and Japanese Android phones and hoping that some of those companies will start selling their phones in the US.

  56. My wishlist by WaffleMonster · · Score: 2

    RF receiver with coverage of at least 200khz thru 5ghz with at least 50 mhz sampling bandwidth and an external mini bnc connector. Transmitting would be nice too within at least the 6 and 13mhz ISM.

    Transducer/sonar for looking thru walls, distance, speed and crap.

    Always on combo LCD/eink display.

    A real ring lazer gyro to replace mems crap.

    A small physical keyboard of some kind or better yet a touch screen with software defined depressible regions. It needs to feel like a real keyboard... no haptic crap.

    Lazer with class selection so we can use it for presentations or goofing off (lazer tag..etc) freespace communications..etc. Oh and a mems mirror lense for lazer light shows.

    Cheap IR transeceiver to control TVs and crap..the old PDAs had these and it was cool.

    IR blackbody temperature sensor.

    Flashlight a real one not some crap camera flash thing.

    Highly sensitive 3D magnetometer able to track fields from any orientation.

    Multimeter/oscope mode with port to attach probes.

    Reliable hardware..chipkill memory, transactional buses, multi-core quorum modes..etc.

    Persistant storage that does not suck power/time or has a limited cycle life (memristers..etc)

    Hyperspectral camera and geiger tube

    Spectrometer

    Unfoldable/sliding display for increased viewing area.

    Waterproof and floats in water.

    Freedom to install anything and full baseband access.

    1. Re:My wishlist by crutchy · · Score: 1

      how about an app that really can see through people's clothes?

    2. Re:My wishlist by crutchy · · Score: 1

      A real ring lazer gyro to replace mems crap

      what's wrong with mems? i've used mems gyros in certification flight testing of aircraft (mgl avionics sp-4 ahrs). they work pretty well in my experience

    3. Re:My wishlist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome. You should be designing phones. I soo want that phone!!!!! Especially waterproof/scratchproof. Should add "Matt finish that can be read in sunlight". Shiny is good in a show room but useless in the real world.

    4. Re:My wishlist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe a tablet, because i don't think you'll fit that all in phone for atleast a few years.

  57. "Killer App" by GODISNOWHERE · · Score: 1

    sensors like accelerometers will be able to collect and report much more detailed information. ... In addition to air quality, temperature and speed of movement are also biggies

    Hmm — a computing device that can collect information about the speed, acceleration, position and temperature of its host or another object, modify its host's parameters accordingly and communicate this information to another computer. We've had "killer apps" like these for years — they're called "guided missiles".

    1. Re:"Killer App" by crutchy · · Score: 1

      they need a fart detector that can indicate the responsible party

    2. Re:"Killer App" by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      they need a fart detector that can indicate the responsible party

      No matter what it says, I'm still going to blame the dog in the room. :-)

    3. Re:"Killer App" by crutchy · · Score: 1

      what about when there aren't any girls?

  58. Better microphones! by onyxruby · · Score: 1

    Cell phones need better microphones and noise canceling so that people on the other end can hear better. This would have the added benefit of greatly reducing how annoying their users are to those around them as people would no longer feel the need to talk really loudly into their phone. Imagine what a better society we would have with this one small change.

  59. patent armaggeddon by crutchy · · Score: 1

    world war 3... in courtrooms

  60. whats next? by sproketboy · · Score: 1

    Flip phones with Star Trek sounds of course!

  61. Use if "slipped" is disturbing, too. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Samsung, for instance, slipped pressure, temperature, and humidity sniffers into the Galaxy S4.

    Where the hell do they think I'm gonna be sticking it on my body?

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  62. A new breakthrough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    pressure, temperature, and humidity sniffers

    It's dark, moist and 98.6 F --- activate the vibrator function!

  63. Not realistic. by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Your battery life is going to be better on LTE if you're in an area where the coverage isn't too spotty.

    Well most of us live in major cities where even just buildings alone, never mind off cell tower coverage, ensure that is not the case.

    I'm currently using Verizon, which I would say has better coverage than anyone. There has yet to be a major city I've visited (Denver, San Francisco, Minneapolis) where coverage strength has not been all over the place. I don't really care because two days is enough battery life and I do like the speed when I'm using it. But I'm not going to pretend that coverage anywhere is great because it just really isn't. That's just the realistic nature of how cell connections will always be given the huge variability in factors that give you good signal.

    It's not a "two year old meme", it's simple physics.

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    1. Re:Not realistic. by mactard · · Score: 1

      I live in the bastion of wilderness better known as the South Loop in Chicago, so I understand urban cell-tower issues. Physics would dictate that your LTE signal, at 700MHz, is going to be better than your CDMA signal at 1900MHz. Not to mention, the difference in speed means that it spends more time sleeping instead of at full power (more physics?). Try turning LTE off for a day. Your battery life will be much worse. That's why Apple could squeeze in a bigger screen, a faster CPU and more RAM with the same battery and get more hours of web browsing. Physics.

  64. P.S. never said LTE battery life was terri by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Also, 'tard, I must take exception with your mischaracterization of LTE battery life being terrible. I don't think two days is terrible at all. I am simply stating the fact that it's even better using 3G, and from some experience the gain will be noticeable.

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  65. Re:No, we will reintroduce good features like kb's by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

    I can type "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" without looking, with only the word jumped (turned into junkie by autocorrect) needing fixing.

    It's amazing what autocorrect will tell you about a person.

  66. Asimov x Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The endpoint of that trend seems to be a full-fleged Asimovian robot.

    Somewhere along the way, it matches - and then surpasses - tricorder's base capabilities. Most of those could have been just the hyperspace internet quantum cloud query continuum engine, of course. It gives you the reading you should have asked for. Not really local sensing and processing, though.

  67. I think the Motorola Droid 4 works in Europe by caveat · · Score: 1

    It's LTE so it should theoretically be global. Slide-out keyboard and all the other bells and whistles...1.2GHz dual-core A9, 1GB RAM, microSD slot. Slightly lower-res screen (4" 960x540, still entirely reasonable) but other than that it's entirely adequate. Runs 4.1 stock, I'm sure Cyanogen or AOSP is up to date though.

    Specs

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  68. Glucose sensor by manu0601 · · Score: 2

    Given that everyone in first world is going fat and getting the diabetes, a smart phone able to measure blood glucose level could have some success.

  69. Projectors by kowala · · Score: 1

    Little projectors that can put data and content on any surface.

  70. TV Tuner by gr8_phk · · Score: 2

    I've been waiting for TV tuners, but I suppose this would cut down on bandwidth which would reduce profits...

  71. Uh-oh by mattr · · Score: 1

    Ads that report your pulse rate to google, the function being bloatware baked into the OS you cannot be sure to get rid of.

  72. tactile touchscreen/fexible phones by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

    A few years ago a similar story was posted and i said wearable electronics (both glasses and watches) nice to see i was right. As my previous comment is only just coming to pass now, I'll add to it with tactile touchscreens (tactus is working on this by injecting fluid into bubbles just above the touchscreen http://www.asme.org/kb/news---articles/articles/fluids-engineering/fluid-systems-take-on-touchscreens), and also flexible screens (samsung, nokia, sharp, lg all are working on this) for phones that can be wrapped around your wrist and thrown like you stole it. We will also see mobile devices taking on the pc in some areas with a bunch of docks and dummy devices. One more thing, and i might get some grief over this, is if intel can get there act together, x86 mobile would have a lot of advantages.

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  73. RIM = durable? BWHAHAA. by SuperBanana · · Score: 1

    Characterizing RIM devices as durable is a laugh. I worked at a company where people broke them routinely without even trying.

    A friend went through them like candy; that stupid rollerball would break all the time.

    RIM *has* been sunk because the smartphone industry was revolutionized by the iOS and Android platforms; RIM's devices were pathetically unfeatured. The writing was on the wall that it was only a matter of time before iOS and Android offered the same security features as RIM, and RIM were idiots for not reading that writing - or not doing anything about it.

  74. sleep cycle alarm by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

    oh oh oh, if you want the next must have sensor innovation, put a brain wave sensor in there. That way it can graph all the different stages of sleep (3Xnrem stages, 1X rem), then it can wake you up at the opportune moment (if you get woken up half way through a stage especially rem you can feel tired all day; some times less sleep is better).

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  75. Re:It's a mobile sensor and communications platfor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Panasonic has already sold an Android smartphone in Japan with a radiation detector. As far as I know it wasn't a huge success, commercially...

  76. I can already take my pulse with an iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just need to put my finger on the backside camera, the phone lights up the flash led and light shines through my finger and reflects back into the camera. In a few seconds I get the pulse reading. ("Heart Rate" App)

    I could also meditate with such an app - it measures the difference between the pulse when I inhale and when I exhale, and this correlates with relaxation. I get a feedback how well I am doing. ("Stress Doctor" App)

  77. Jack's complete lack of surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, I'll bite and you can mod me down as a troll if you want. I expect less and less from future smartphones because while the newest one I own is a hell of a lot faster and more usable than my older ones it lacks the ability to tinker with the hardware and is sorely lacking in comparison. My Neo FreeRunner while slow and rather quirky has a lot of features you will never see again like a breakout board available for free as well as some pretty sweet options for adding in your own hardware if so inclined. My N900 which recently had it's usb charging port separated from the breadboard is more feature rich than the the nexus 4 that replaced it. The N900 had a decent UI as well as perks like an IR port which allowed me to control various things like TV sets and radios it also let me broadcast audio over the FM band. You will never see any offerings like them again and you can pry both of them from my cold dead hands before I give them up.

  78. Re:It's a mobile sensor and communications platfor by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure the phone is the right platform for a heart rate monitor. A heart rate monitor would do more good if it could detect your heart rate 24/7, or at least during the whole day. I guess maybe smart clocks that Apple and Samsung are working on will probably have that feature.

    Yeah, stereo mic is kind of a no brainer.

    Radar may be possible, but I highly doubt you'll be able to see through walls with a sensor that tiny.

    Why would you want a laser for medium range distance if you have a radar?

    Thermal imaging sensors are dropping in price, so that's probably going to become a no-brainer at some point. Those will be great for parents who want to check if their kid has a temperature (spelling the end for the old thermometer under warm tap water trick, sorry kids...) and great for looking for heat leaks and water leaks in your home.

  79. Re:It's a mobile sensor and communications platfor by anss123 · · Score: 1

    - A good (near-medical quality) heartrate monitor is doable right now, but would benefit from better color detection in the camera and for Android, a better API. It only works on iPads right now.

    I got an app called "instant heart rate" on my Lumia 920. It's free but does appear to work pretty well, and it's easy to use.

    According to the website (www.azumio.com) it's also on iOS devices. Don't know if it's near medical quality though.

  80. We have your answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, myself and a team of experts have been working to find the next thing and have arrived at a product. Yo Mama, will soon be available on both iOS and android markets.

  81. Haptic display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haptic display by Senseq.

  82. Weight measurement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A friend of mine told me about an idea he had for making an app which uses the screens pressure sensor to weigh things, ie. you put something on the phone and it says 8.5g or whatever you are trying to measure. I don't know if this is possible with todays sensors but it would be a interesting feature to have.

  83. VR UI like in Minority Report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    must be the next step for smartphones, as an alternative to voice based UI, unfortunately it will not be "innovation" since the concept is well known. It will need 3D glasses for privacy but it will also make it simpler to implement.

  84. Smartphones are old news by biodata · · Score: 1

    Next year will be year of teh dumbphones.

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  85. Bluetooth glovepad for android Re:KB by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    No slide out keyboard. Not all people want it. But many do. Something new like a texting glove that connects via blue tooth is a better idea. Basically each finger has three hot spots. Either the tip of the thumb or the "heel" of the tumb touches the hot spots. Gives you 24 different keys. Since you dont have to look at the glove-keypad at all, you only look at the screen and teach yourself to type with this keyboard.

    At some point people might prefer two of these gloves and a trackpad to regular key board and mouse for desktops.

    Patent trolls, this is prior art if someone has not already patented this.

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    1. Re:Bluetooth glovepad for android Re:KB by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Something new like a texting glove

      And where do you keep your chording keyboards (err, I mean texting gloves) when you're not using them? A main advantage of a slider is that it has a convenient (and small) storage location.

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  86. I want by PieceOfShitAndroid · · Score: 1

    a built in phaser

  87. Re:No, we will reintroduce good features like kb's by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    but muscle memory about where the keys are. Which works fine on a touch screen

    Wow, you're very talented to have such precise proprioception. Do you play any instruments?

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  88. Killer feature by rwa2 · · Score: 1

    I would simply have it administer a lethal dose of cyanide any time the user posts something stupid on the internets ;-)

  89. It's not talent, it's physiology by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Wow, you're very talented to have such precise proprioception.

    Ha Ha.

    Actually I'm not. When you are touch typing on a keyboard are you feeling the keys like Hellen Keller looking for a pair of dropped eyeglasses? Of course not. Your fingers go where the keys are because you have trained your muscles where they are.

    The same principal holds on a smaller virtual keyboard. The edges of the screen are close enough that your thumbs can easily remember over time where the keys are. Combine that with autocorrect that adjusts for small variances in position and you can type pretty well without looking much.

    This is not a specialized skill, it's what naturally happens to ANYONE who spends a lot of time typing with any device.

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    1. Re:It's not talent, it's physiology by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      When you are touch typing on a keyboard are you feeling the keys

      Yes. My brain gets an approximately correct position, then the sense of touch helps tune it in, constantly correcting its conception of where the keys are.

      I had one of those bluetooth laser keyboards for my Treo back in the day, and touchtyping on it was entirely useless for me - my fingers would drift all over without any tactile feedback to let them know that they were in the right place. If I watched the 'keys' I was fine.

      I do much better with normal keys with depressions and edges than with chicklet keyboards for the same reason.

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  90. Olfactory sensors by cundare · · Score: 1

    Would enable apps that may independently verify that it truly was the dog that farted.

  91. eye-tracking sensors by Udom · · Score: 1

    The article referenced mentions "eye-tracking sensors" and suggests they could be used for improving gaming. They could also be used for recording which parts of every page you find interesting and sending those records to advertisers. With that information they can construct ads on the fly to better suit your preferences and sell those preferences to others, A profile could be built of the target that would be more accurate than his view of himself. Security services would demand all this information as well. You'd have a super drone in your hand watching what catches your eye from moment to moment. They'd know what turns you on.

  92. Killer Feature: Slide keyboard by GNious · · Score: 1

    I'd love to see a smartphone for sale in a store with a slide-away QWERTY keyboard - that would be really kool.

    1. Re:Killer Feature: Slide keyboard by neminem · · Score: 1

      What he said. We've had the power for many years; I don't know why nobody seems to be making many of them any more. I finally bought a smartphone a few months ago, and I basically had a choice: did I want a phone with a proper, useful keyboard, or did I want a current version of Android on it? I went with the former; my phone runs Android 2.3, but I can actually freaking type on it.

  93. Multiple Input and Output - Single OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With devices like Google Glass we will move away from touch screens as the primary input and output mechanism. A head mounted device will let us use a combination of inputs like voice, laser keyboard, and eye movements as well as brain and muscle electrical impulses to control output on the head mounted device and other displays, like a computer monitor, a TV, or a flexible screen that we can easily carry in a pocket or purse and pull out to view content and media on a larger display.

    We will also experience fewer but better integrated applications that require less manual input. A futuristic health application would monitor all our activity and physiology. With a combination of store maps and product nutritional information, it would enable us to quickly find those food products that fit our preferred nutritional profile, like products that contain less that 5% sugar per serving. Over a period of time we would get a better idea of the calories we take in and burn, as well as the nutritional value of the food we consume.

  94. I'll pay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...for the ability to punch someone in the face over the internet.

  95. Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about starting with lowering the phones prices & a better battery..

  96. Durability and size! by Still+Having+Fun · · Score: 1

    My Palm Centro must be six yrs old now. It has a 32GB memory card in it (Same capacity as the new Blackberry Z10!) and I've replaced the battery twice. It has been a wonderful workhorse and I can actually fit it in my pocket. I'm looking for a new smartphone now, but NOT one with a soldered-in memory chip or battery. Too bad Palm/HP self destructed. On the brighter side, now more guys are being motivated to buy purses in which to carry their 5" phones. This should be a boon both to the fashion industry and purse snatchers everywhere.