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Did Tech Websites Exploit the Boston Marathon Bombing?

Nerval's Lobster writes "These days, when something in the world goes very wrong, it seems as if everybody learns about it first on Twitter and Facebook. In the minutes after homemade bombs turned the finish line of the Boston Marathon into a crime scene, terms such as #BostonMarathon shot to the top of Twitter's Trends list; across the country, office workers first learned of the attack when someone posted a message on a Facebook page. Social networks have become this generation's radio, the default conduit for the freshest information. As first responders treated the wounded and the minutes ticked past, news organizations began vacuuming up Twitter and Facebook posts from around Boston and posting it on their Websites, along with 'regular' text updates. A Vine video-snippet of a bomb going off near the finish line, knocking a runner off his feet, ended up embedded into dozens of blog postings. When a disaster strikes, and many of those same news Websites post 'live updates' that incorporate tons of social-networking posts, they face accusations of exploiting the tragedy in the name of pageviews and revenue. That's not surprising—long before 'yellow journalism' became a term, people have charged news organizations with playing up humanity's worst for their own gain. In the immediate aftermath of the Boston bombings, online pundits lashed out against Mashable, The Verge, Wired, and other publications that had posted live updates, accusing them of stepping outside their usual coverage areas for cynical gain. In the following piece, a number of tech editors-in-chief, including The Verge's Joshua Topolsky and Mashable's Lance Ulanoff, talk about their approaches to covering the tragedy."

182 comments

  1. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Some Websites that posted “live updates” faced accusations of exploiting the tragedy in the name of pageviews and revenue." ??

    Each time a disaster happens, we're FLOODED with the same info, repeated over and over... on TV and Internet...

    So can I ask something : What's the difference between a website and a channel, such as Fox/CBC/CNN/etc !?
    Why only the "Websites" and not every damn TV channel that broadcast the same ****ing news all day long?

    ty.

    1. Re:What? by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Modern "news" channels are basically just a loop of the five worst things that happened in the world today.

      Film at 11.

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    2. Re:What? by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Modern news channels are the five worst things that happened to the world today.

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    3. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The difference is that the websites accused of exploitation aren't general news sites, they're tech news sites. How would you feel if a tech news TV program was talking about stuff like this, with no actual connection to tech?

      That's why they're being accused. Now, I realize the Internet isn't the same as TV. In TV-land, the tech program would be cancelled and a real news program would take its place, which is something that can't really happen on the internet. But the gut reaction "This isn't something you should be talking about" is still there.

    4. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "But the gut reaction "This isn't something you should be talking about" is still there."

      I can understand that. But at the same time do you think you'd feel a reaction like "How could they NOT talk about something this important?" if they were to completely ignore it? Or can you at least imagine how some would think that?

      Also, I think these sites are more likely to have fewer people (read: shareholders) controlling the editorial process and therefore more likely to cover things that affect them on an emotional level, even if those things deviate from their stated scope. That's the way I view this situation. I think these people saw something horrific and were deeply disturbed by it. I think they felt as though there was no way to not talk about it. I think if these were the kind of sites run by people who thought "Oh look, carnage! We can use that to generate pageviews!" then these would be very different from what they are given that there is no end to daily carnage.

    5. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what about sports channels? while it did happen at a sporting event, i'd hardly call it relevant to sports journalism.

    6. Re:What? by nolife · · Score: 1

      And in between those news stories are "stories"about what happened on that networks prime time reality show the previous night followed up by a "story" about a movie star or entertainer that just released a new movie or album.

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    7. Re:What? by s.petry · · Score: 2

      Modern "news" channels are basically just a loop of the five worst things that happened in the world today, presented from the perspective the Government want's you to have.

      Film at 11.

      FTFY!

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    8. Re:What? by s.petry · · Score: 1

      So Faux news telling me over and over again how Windows 8 can improve my life is not okay either? Me thinks you are nitpicking a bit...

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    9. Re:What? by formfeed · · Score: 1

      Modern "news" channels are basically just a loop of the five worst things that happened in the world today.

      Except for local channels.
      They really go out of their way in trying to find someone in the local community, who somehow feels affected by the five worst things that happened in the world today, or knows someone, or has been there once, or knows someone who has been there once.

    10. Re:What? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2

      This a thousand times.

      I was in the doctor's office today and watched over an hour of "breaking live news" in which we learned:
      - bombs went off
      - injuries and deaths
      - speculation
      - speculation
      - FEAR
      - speculation
      - TERROR
      - speculation
      - TERROR SECURITY INCREASED IN MAJOR CITIES
      - speculation

      Then we repeated the above in a loop. And were continuing to do so when I left. I counted at least 23 uses of the word "terror" in one 15 minute segment, including the new and popular "terror event".

      The noise from twitter and the noise from blogs and the noise from news -it's all the same. And people drink it up.

    11. Re:What? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      presented from the perspective the Government want's you to have.

      Film at 11.

      Yeah, that.

      Notice a complete lack of anything bad happening in Iraq/Afghanistan on TV. Absolutely no outrage over the war, only brave soldiers coming home to new Ford Mustangs...yeah, that.

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    12. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Government want's you to have

      Shit for brian's.

    13. Re:What? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Hence The Onion's "area man" meme.

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    14. Re:What? by tehcyder · · Score: 2
      So you'd rather that no one was allowed to report on any news until it had been sanitised and given some official seal of approval?

      If you or anyone else sits down in front of a news website/TV and watches the same stories being repeated time after time, that's your fault, not the news providers. They're there to tell you the news.

      I personally still like watching the scheduled news at 10 on the BBC, once a day, and maybe listening to the radio on the way to work in case there's anything urgent happening, thern reading the newspapers next day for a more considered viewpoint.

      No one forces you to get live twitter/facebook/whatever updates 24/7. It's up to you.

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    15. Re:What? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Modern news? This is all very old news. Disasters and wars have been great for the media at least since the invention of the printing press.

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    16. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fag.

    17. Re:What? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      So you'd rather that no one was allowed to report on any news until it had been sanitised and given some official seal of approval?

      Please tell me where I said that. The rest of your argument is based on that premise, which is incorrect.

      My point was not that anything should be sanitized, but that the sensationalist so-called journalism we have today does have consequences. Nothing more or less.

  2. Lots of misinformation by stevegee58 · · Score: 3, Informative

    No wonder there was so much misinformation. First there was 1 dud bomb that didn't go off, then there were 5. Then there were none.
    This is all social media's doing.

    1. Re:Lots of misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just like patching software - the faster we can release patches the buggier the initial software becomes. This is just the same idea with news.

      Unfortunately it means we all waste time dealing with incorrect information and early adopters get caned (viz. Sim City).

    2. Re:Lots of misinformation by gandhi_2 · · Score: 2

      CNN reported Ryan Lanza was the Newtown shooter at first. Then tweets followed.

      Ryan being Adams brother.

    3. Re:Lots of misinformation by Iskender · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No wonder there was so much misinformation. First there was 1 dud bomb that didn't go off, then there were 5. Then there were none.
      This is all social media's doing.

      Was all the information we received during the 911 attacks accurate right from the start? At least I heard wildly different accounts as the situation developed, so I'd say no.

      "Social media" didn't really exist back then, and certainly isn't the cause. When something sudden happens it takes time for the information to disseminate, and for a while people have to rely on rumours. It's the same as it ever was.

      It's possible that one thing has changed: people have developed unrealistic expectations for how quickly you can get accurate information from far away.

    4. Re:Lots of misinformation by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Also, the NY Post's. They said there was 12 dead.

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    5. Re:Lots of misinformation by rockout · · Score: 1

      I saw that as well - it was up for about 8 hours (at least) while all other sources were saying 2, and then 3. That rag will take any piece of sensational info they get from any source and just run with it, though. It seems more important to them to be "first" rather than accurate.

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    6. Re:Lots of misinformation by jxander · · Score: 1

      Social media may not always be the perpetrator of hastily published misinformation ... but it certainly leads the charge on that front.

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    7. Re:Lots of misinformation by femtobyte · · Score: 2

      The NY Post also ran the (now thoroughly falsified) "news" that a Saudi suspect had been taken into custody early after the blast. That served as a great filter for identifying racist right-wing nutters, who were eager to pass along the NY Post's predictable uncorroborated tabloid Islamophobia as if it were an actual news source.

    8. Re:Lots of misinformation by cffrost · · Score: 1

      The NY Post also ran the (now thoroughly falsified) "news" that a Saudi suspect had been taken into custody early after the blast. That served as a great filter for identifying racist right-wing nutters, who were eager to pass along the NY Post's predictable uncorroborated tabloid Islamophobia as if it were an actual news source.

      That "news item" was previously included in the Wikipedia article on this event, with Daily Mail serving as the cited source.

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    9. Re:Lots of misinformation by PIBM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Where were you ? I for one was lurking on a very busy IRC channel before going to the University. Them someone posted `WWWWTTTFFFF!!!!!`, a few seconds later he said that a plane crashed in the building, and a minute later he started sharing (yeah, we then had to send it to other people manually ..) webcam snapshots. That was pretty much a social network at work.

    10. Re:Lots of misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Currently, according to SearchIRC, there are "There are 385,188 people" on IRC at the moment. I don't think IRC has lost a few hundred million users, even if you multiply by 10 to account for people who arn't using IRC right now.

      I'm a huge fan of IRC, but it is in no way comparable to the centralized social media behemoths of today.

    11. Re:Lots of misinformation by therealobsideus · · Score: 1

      I was watching live feed as the second plane hit. Before that, my school went on lockdown and ushered all the kids away from the TVs (I was in the library and hid in the stacks so I can stay and watch) while all the majority of the teachers stayed in the library to watch the news. I'll never forget that second plane hitting - or the buildings start collapsing.

    12. Re:Lots of misinformation by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      I was sleeping in my bunk. Woke up, slid down to the computer desk underneath said bunk and almost immediately got an IM (on AIM, since thats what all the cool kids were using at that point) to the effect of 'the world is ending.' Got the TV card in my computer working in time to see plane #2 hit.

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    13. Re:Lots of misinformation by scream+at+the+sky · · Score: 1

      Where were you ?

      I was on slashdot when 9/11 happened, and I fail to see how in it's own way slashdot is not a very, very old (in internet years) form of social media.

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    14. Re:Lots of misinformation by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Before that, my school went on lockdown

      Sorry, but this just fucking annoys me. What the fuck is 'lockdown' and why fucking bother. Maybe it's because I went to schools that actually suffered terrorist attacks.

      Which incidentally is why I have no fucking sympathy for Boston right now. People in Boston funded the terror attacks against me. Cunts.

    15. Re:Lots of misinformation by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The iron triangle of news media: Fast, accurate, thoughtful. Choose [at most] two.

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    16. Re:Lots of misinformation by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      No, it's your doing. If you listen to, and take seriously, any random twitter or facebook message, you're a fucking moron.

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    17. Re:Lots of misinformation by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Holy shitty Jesus on a tricycle, human beings are fallible and make mistakes in the heat of the moment!

      Who knew?

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    18. Re:Lots of misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which incidentally is why I have no fucking sympathy for Boston right now. People in Boston funded the terror attacks against me. Cunts.

      To be fair, so did other places in the US. Like New York. Which is why I had very little sympathy for them during 9/11. They were just unlucky those terrorists were a bit more ruthless and clever than the fucking PIRA.

    19. Re:Lots of misinformation by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The Daily Fail probably blames the Boston Marathon bombings on asylum seekers in the UK.

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    20. Re:Lots of misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shitty Jesus on a tricycle, human beings are fallible and make mistakes in the heat of the moment!

      Who knew?

      Quit apologizing for them. This is a simple case of a news channel publishing hearsay without properly vetting it first, because they are in a hurry to be the "first" news channel to report one little bit of information.

    21. Re:Lots of misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair: Bloody Sunday

  3. ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it ironic that I found out about the bombs on slashdot first.

    1. Re:ironic by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      I find it ironic that I found out about the bombs on slashdot first.

      I rather says something profound, but the actual lesson is left as an exercise for the poster...

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    2. Re:ironic by nametaken · · Score: 1

      Slashdot was uncharacteristically quick about that one.

      I guess Twitter broke the news a full 15 minutes before CNN did. But as a friend put it, social media is absolutely unmatched at breaking the news... but it's a clusterfuck after the first 10 minutes.

      Take us back a few years, and the folks at NORAD were learning about 9/11 from CNN.

      It used to be you could switch from the immediate source over to the real news to get real, confirmed information. All the news outlets did this time was repost tragedy porn and random tweets. I saw a lot of just wrong info on all the news outlets.

      Tech sites, though... they just can't pass on the buffet of page views.

  4. Let's get one thing straight... by reiserifick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... most news agencies are for-profit entertainment businesses, rather than public service organizations.

    1. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      And they are mutually exclusive?

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    2. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except in as much as they also often serve the government (as in, the entity, not "the people") to promote and propogate propoganda. You know, like "fear fear fear fear, now pass these invasive laws that let your ISP and cell provider snitch on you to the government carte blanche".

    3. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by Dan667 · · Score: 1

      when big media starts reporting things like "are we safe?" to fear monger then they cross over into exploiting a tragedy for their own gain. They should have any profits reaped taken from them when they do this. I noticed big media like CNN was not included in this list and they should be absolutely. They are the worst at it.

    4. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by kelemvor4 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes. A "for-profit entertainment business exists for the purpose of making profit. A public service organization exists to provide a public service. A for profit entertainment business might happen to also provide some public service if they think it will help them make more profit. A public service organization (if it isn't declared a nonprofit, which they tend to be) might happen to turn a profit but their main goal is providing a public service.

    5. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      And the ones that are public service organisations feel they have an obligation to "keep up" with the rest.

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    6. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then the simple answer is put copyright on all TWEETS (where it belongs with the owner) that the corporate exploit fuckers have to get permission to REPOST your shiznitz

    7. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      Unless it's employees are volunteers, public service organizations operate for profit as well, they just don't give it to anyone else.

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    8. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the legal speak. "Neither guarantees quality."

      PBS, as much as it can be called a real non-profit, has a strong political bias just shy of MSNBC. On the other end of the spectrum we've got an equally evil MSNBC doppelganger, in Fox 'News'. So what do we really have to go on...?

      C-SPAN, where fewer people get their news than any other source.

    9. Re:Let's get one thing straight... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      And they are mutually exclusive?

      Not absolutely, but when push comes to shove profits will come first.

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  5. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Profit is good. What's wrong with what they (purportedly) did? We need to foster innovation in news. If no one pursued profit, what revolutionary developments in soundbite and factoid technology will go missed?

    1. Re:So what? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Profit is good.

      No inherently it isn't.

      We need to foster innovation in news.

      Why? And innovation!= improvement anyway.

      If no one pursued profit, what revolutionary developments in soundbite and factoid technology will go missed?

      Ah, apologies, I missed the sarcasm initially.

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  6. Don't make a sound... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here you have a tech website in its natural habitat, being a gigantic hypocrite

    1. Re:Don't make a sound... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Here you have a tech website in its natural habitat, being a gigantic hypocrite

      Slashdot posted one story, the rest of the material was comments by slashdot readers. We didn't get hourly updates inviting us to agree with our challenge the latest incorrect rumour.

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  7. There is no license to cover serious topics by PhamNguyen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The idea that tech blogs can cover stories about tech, but should leave coverage of serious political and human issues to the "big boys" of traditional media, is ridiculous. There is no special license needed to write about serious and important topics, only the usual requirement that the reporting be genuinely in the public interest. Presenting information from social networks, as long as it is labelled as such and not misrepresented as certain fact, is in no way improper. If people are interested in reading about that information, there is nothing wrong with providing it, and if tech blogs feel that because of their focus, they are especially able to do this, then they should.

    1. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by Obfuscant · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The idea that tech blogs can cover stories about tech, but should leave coverage of serious political and human issues to the "big boys" of traditional media, is ridiculous.

      Right. But the idea that tech blogs should stick to tech stuff isn't. People categorize information because it helps them manage the information overload of their daily lives. I go to tech sites to read about tech things. When I want politics, if ever, I go to a political site. When I want entertainment news, if ever, I go to an entertainment website.

      This categorization of information works very well and helps reduce clutter and overload. It also allows specialization in coverage. Tech blog writers have no special credentials for politics or entertainment news, so why should they pretend they are the best source of information about either? And why should a tech website be wasting bandwidth/storage/author time covering something that is being covered better somewhere else where those who want such coverage can easily find it themselves?

      It's not like people who read tech blogs are incapable of going to general news sites when they want general news, is it? Do technical people have some limit on how well they can navigate the net?

    2. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That depends. Many blogs have a sizable crowd of followers who regularly debate stuff amongst themselves, and in some cases there is a group of regular, frequent commenters, transforming a blog from a mere set of articles with comments into an online community. Such a community might well feel the need for a topic to discuss momentous events like these, even if it is off topic. Just like everyone was discussing it today at the water cooler and at their desks.

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    3. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by PhamNguyen · · Score: 1

      I agree with what you say, but I was addressing the criticisms in the article, which were that there was something improper about Tech sites covering this event, as opposed to simply these sites not having the expertise to produce something that readers would value.

      Most likely the Tech sites thought that given the level of user interest in this topic, that any new perspective the they could add to the topic would be valuable to readers. Some sites mentioned claimed that they are not "Tech" sites or that they are trying to broaden their coverage.

    4. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by ebno-10db · · Score: 1

      It's not like people who read tech blogs are incapable of going to general news sites when they want general news, is it? Do technical people have some limit on how well they can navigate the net?

      No, and presumably neither do you. So you're free to go to the political site if wish, and navigate away from a tech site that's trying to cover "politics" (actually breaking events). What's your problem with that? If anything the people reading the tech sites for breaking events will reduce the load on the political server sites that you want to visit.

      Tech blog writers have no special credentials for politics or entertainment news, so why should they pretend they are the best source of information about either?

      "Political and entertainment" sites (e.g. mainstream news outlets) cover tech news, even though they often clearly lack the ability to do so accurately. Often the authors don't understand the most elementary points, like the difference between power and energy. You'd flunk a high school science class that way. Makes me wonder what, if any, special expertise they have in covering politics.

    5. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      but...but...but... When a group of US citizens (some wealthy, some not so much) united together for the purpose of producing some media not favorable to a certain politician here in the US, it seemed like the consensus here is that only the "big boys" have the right to be called "the press" and only they are the ones allowed to speak about anything.

      Why is this different?

    6. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Furthermore it is really handy for those of us, like me, who would like to know about notable happenings around the world that are non-tech-related, but who are not willing to rountinely go to a non-tech website just to check if something notable has in fact happened.

    7. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      No, and presumably neither do you. So you're free to go to the political site if wish, and navigate away from a tech site that's trying to cover "politics" (actually breaking events). What's your problem with that?

      It's a waste of time for someone to go to a tech site and be presented with off-topic material that can be better found elsewhere. If someone wants that material, there are plenty of places they can go that are better suited for it and it won't get in the way of the purpose of the tech site.

      I.e., I came to the tech site for tech info. Getting useless info that isn't tech related is a waste of the user's time.

      If anything the people reading the tech sites for breaking events will reduce the load on the political server sites that you want to visit.

      I don't care about the load on webservers that I don't want to visit.

      "Political and entertainment" sites (e.g. mainstream news outlets) cover tech news,

      This is the "someone else is doing something stupid so we have to do something stupid, too" argument. Sorry, isn't effective.

      Makes me wonder what, if any, special expertise they have in covering politics.

      And this is the "if they don't understand everything well, they can't understand anything well" argument. I think we all know enough people who are technologically brilliant but social and political morons to ever believe this.

    8. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by s.petry · · Score: 1

      Value in your first paragraph is very misleading. Value to whom? Does main stream media provide more value than a tech site? Perhaps to the Government or other agency trying to spread propaganda. Do they generate value to people searching for facts? Not in the last 10 years they have not.

      Let me further state that the reason so many other news sources are popping up, is because the main stream media has become almost pure propaganda. As more and more people catch on to that fact, the demand will increase. In other words, expect many more sites offering political News. As someone who wants the propaganda war against the US people to end and the Republic to be restored, I welcome more news.

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    9. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your points are rational and well argued. Unfortunately, they are ridiculous because we are social beings not robots. We don't consume news media in neat categories. There is overlap. And we don't consume that media in a vacuum, either.

      Like it or not, when major human events occur, people in all communities are going to want to talk about it. That includes tech reporters whose job it is to talk.

    10. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by theEnguneer · · Score: 1

      Right. But the idea that tech blogs should stick to tech stuff isn't. People categorize information because it helps them manage the information overload of their daily lives. I go to tech sites to read about tech things. When I want politics, if ever, I go to a political site. When I want entertainment news, if ever, I go to an entertainment website.

      That is only one way to look at it. Another viewpoint is that a website should cater its content to what its audience is interested in. In the case of Tech blogs, their audience is predominately techies, interested in the latest gadget and such. However, techies are also interested in major events. If the world is going to end tomorrow, I want to see that announcement on slashdot, gizmodo, engadget, and every other tech blog.

    11. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      Moreover, people who focus mostly on tech in their day to day lives will generally have better resources to blog, post or whatever on tech specialty sites. If they instead go to a site they don't normally visit much, because a particular event has happened and that event is being covered there, they don't have those same resources. It's perfectly natural for people to want to post where they already know who at least some of the trolls are, how to do bold face or italics, and where they have an existing ID, or other options such as AC.
      Some people, particularly ones who are not in or from the US, may have the opinion that catastrophies and other major news that involves the US gets more attention on Slashdot than they deserve, that the barrier to becoming important enough to override the usual "news for nerds" rule is lower. I can understand that, but it's different from expecting that barrier to be made of unobtanium.

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    12. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      This categorization of information works very well and helps reduce clutter and overload. It also allows specialization in coverage. Tech blog writers have no special credentials for politics or entertainment news, so why should they pretend they are the best source of information about either?

      Blogs do not pretend they are the best source of information, users decide whether they are. Sometimes they are, as in the case of politics or entertainment news. In the former case, politicians are big fat liars and all major media outlets are in the corner of one politician or another. In the latter case, everyone and their mother has complained that there is no longer any useful and insightful movie review service on the order of Siskel & Ebert, and again the mass media primarily covers the mass media shit, and tells you it's great no matter how bad it is. This is true of music, movie, and even game reviews.

      It's not like people who read tech blogs are incapable of going to general news sites when they want general news, is it? Do technical people have some limit on how well they can navigate the net?

      I find out about important news stories like the weekly-or-more-frequent suppression of free speech by police, usually in the form of illegal confiscation and/or destruction of cameras and/or media, from blogs. These stories aren't even discussed in the mainstream media because the mainstream media does not challenge the status quo, so they're not having their cameras taken away. It's not a problem to them if ordinary people aren't permitted to report on everyday events; in fact, it's a good thing to them if our freedoms are suppressed because it increases their value as the only permitted news outlets. These police actions add up to a de facto monopoly on free speech granted to those who will not employ it but most of them never even reach the mainstream news. Still think that a "general news site" is your best source for general news, when they will deliberately omit what is important in favor of what they can easily place ads next to?

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    13. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      If you're trying to defend "Truthers" like the stupid fucking twat Donald Trump you might as well save your breath. They're discredited xenophobes and racists, and you and they know it. They attempted to use their influence on the overwelmingly right wing (from a non-US perspective) media to create a storm in a teacup, when there wasn't even any fucking teacup.

      Pathetic all round, and not really a good idea to remind people about it.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    14. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Nope. Trump wasn't involved at all. However, the Obama administration did argue twice (via Elena Kagan the first) that the government definitely has the right to stop the publication of any material it deems problematic. Even if that material is simply a book telling the unflattering truth about a politician.

      Slashdot in general has decried the SCOTUS decision that said "No, people do not lose their First Amendment rights simply because they pooled their money to speak."

    15. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Moreover, people who focus mostly on tech in their day to day lives will generally have better resources to blog, post or whatever on tech specialty sites. If they instead go to a site they don't normally visit much, because a particular event has happened and that event is being covered there, they don't have those same resources. It's perfectly natural for people to want to post where they already know who at least some of the trolls are, how to do bold face or italics, and where they have an existing ID, or other options such as AC.

      This is the "I am going to post off-topic material here because I know how to post here" argument that was (is still?) very common on Usenet. "I'm going to post my question about lisp to this perl newsgroup because I already know the people here and don't know how to get my newsreader to search for any group with the word 'lisp' in it. And I don't want to have to read a whole other newsgroup just to get an answer..."

      Lead balloon.

    16. Re:There is no license to cover serious topics by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      If the world is going to end tomorrow, I want to see that announcement on slashdot, gizmodo, engadget, and every other tech blog.

      You win the second place "how much hyperbole can I use in an argument" award. First place was won earlier today by someone who claimed that the level of political correctness had reached a level that made the Spanish Inquisition look preferable.

      Chicken and egg. Tech sites get readers because they do tech news. That's how they cater to the desires of their readers. That's the only way they know the desires of their readers.

  8. Yes, along with everybody else by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the mainstream media not "exploiting" the event as well?

  9. irony is not lost to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So this is about people complaining about news organizations stepping outside their targeted topics.

    How is this news for nerds?

  10. Answer - YES! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now stop asking stupid questions and let's try to answer the real questions like, "How to stop this horseshit."

    Got it?

    The question isn't so hard.

    Get a grip.The answer sucks, though. AND i CAN'T STOMACH IT.

  11. I am not sure, by ruir · · Score: 1

    But quite sure slashdot doing it.

  12. People are interested in tragedies by jfengel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a marathon runner, and the first I heard about this was from friends inquiring if I knew anybody there. I can't conceive of what earthly good this information would have done them (perhaps they wanted to offer me some sort of comfort if I had) but I do know that whatever it is, people are fascinated by the tragedies and want to know everything they can the soonest they can.

    So I can hardly blame news companies for giving people the fastest information that they can. They're not so much "exploiting" the tragedy as giving people what it is they're craving (or at least, the closest substitute they can get to it, the unverified raw data stream). I don't think it's doing them any good (that's a different rant) but they're not forcing this on people. They're doing what people ask them to do.

  13. I don't see the problem by Hentes · · Score: 5, Informative

    In what way did news coverage make things worse? If a huge crowd of cameramen were to obstruct the way of emergency vehicles I would understand the uproar, but absent that I fail to see what damage could journalism possibly cause.

    1. Re:I don't see the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Joking right? Will you say the same about a "real" news agency in the same situation? Pretend for a moment that all the "social media" content from yesterday was actually from a news agency instead of user behind a fictitious user name. Regardless of that hypothetical, do you really not see _any_ way damage can be done through "journalism"?

    2. Re:I don't see the problem by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      I think the question was asking for specifics regarding this particular event, not hypothetical situations that will most likely never happen.

      I see plenty of ways that damage is being done through "journalism" every day and it is mostly from the well-heeled, left leaning "big boys". Nearly every time one of them repeats a politicians crap about "preventing future tragedies" they are damaging our freedom. Need to prevent a future shooting. Easy. Pass a law that says I have to get permission from the government to give my son a gun. Except the most recent shooting we are trying "to prevent" was committed by someone who killed to get his guns and never even thought about subjecting himself to a background check. Neither will 80% or more of all shooters. But we have to do SOMETHING.

    3. Re:I don't see the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he mean more along the lines of a bunch of ppl in the street blocking traffic. As a camera dude myself, I know exactly the point here, too many people in the pen. However I could be wrong interpreting him.
      I will say this, if Journalism actually meant "Journalism", and not just a fucking excuse for a for-profit fascist press pass, then no damage would be happening right now, and a lot of crooked banksters and oath breaking scum would be filling up Ft Leavenworth to the point they need to EXPAND IT about right now.

    4. Re:I don't see the problem by khallow · · Score: 1

      Regardless of that hypothetical, do you really not see _any_ way damage can be done through "journalism"?

      No. Perhaps you should explain to us what the problems are then rather than ask pointless rhetorical questions?

    5. Re:I don't see the problem by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      In one 15 minute news segment that I watched today, I counted 23 uses of the word "terror". Over the course of an hour, they had non-stop live reporting - but told us basically the same basic known *facts* - there were three of them - and filled the rest of the time with speculation and fear-mongering.

      Among the patients discussing this in the doctor's office I was in today (that's why i got force-fed an hour of this crap), the consensus was that the increased police presence that we'll be seeing in several major cities was a good thing, and that those Muslims (wtf? speculation - based only on a 'what if' scenario in the NBC 'news' coverage) deserved whatever they got.

      My favorite part of that segment was when they had a child psychologist come on to tell parents not to continually expose their children to images from the attack - while looping video from the attack in a sidebar next to her head.

      The only thing you need to do to see the harm of such 'journalism' is open your eyes.

    6. Re:I don't see the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They spread rumor and increase anxiety in folks unnecessarily. News media are large conduits of propaganda machines. The coverage rewards the perpetrators desire for idolization, glory, and influence. They also profit by the increased viewership and have a built in bias for sensationalism.

    7. Re:I don't see the problem by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      When you're a gun nut, every problem looks like a problem about guns.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    8. Re:I don't see the problem by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Among the patients discussing this in the doctor's office I was in today (that's why i got force-fed an hour of this crap)

      I wasn't aware that it was compulsory to watch TV anywhere.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    9. Re:I don't see the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main reason is participation in a feedback loop with terrorist.
      I made a site called media tero about this regarding the Aum cult
      attacks in Japan.
      - magnifying bragging effect to prove terrorist to his sponsors,
      making it easier to raise money
      - giving intelligence to the terrorist, about how successful It was or
      who should be attacked.
      - giving power to terrorist to manipulate media, social reactions, and movements of guards/protectors.
      - giving excitement and fulgillment to terrorist

  14. Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And revoke their "Press" privileges : the access passes,etc if they exceed a specified number (and maybe grade) of "inaccuracy events"
    Their job is to present facts and not opinions, so this should be relatively easy to implement

    1. Re:Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by hawguy · · Score: 1

      And revoke their "Press" privileges : the access passes,etc if they exceed a specified number (and maybe grade) of "inaccuracy events"
      Their job is to present facts and not opinions, so this should be relatively easy to implement

      If they did that, the only news would be "Explosions reported at Boston Marathon, check back next month for details when we tell you what the authorities want you to know".

      Without news crews on the ground, people would only get one side of the story, after it has been sanitized by the government. A terrorist attack (or disaster) is chaotic, even authoritative sources will sometimes release inaccurate or incomplete information. Independent witnesses interviewed at the scene will sometimes have wildly different versions of the events depending on their vantage point and own personal experience.

      I don't know how the news media can be graded on accuracy of facts when the facts themselves are in dispute even among official sources.

    2. Re:Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Thing is... unless there is some risk to me, or my family or friends are involved, I wouldn't mind only hearing about things once the details are worked out.

      Granted, I do not want a sanitized version, but you can still collect what facts you can at the time of the event and then take the time to put the pieces together and release an independent analysis later.

      The only need for immediate news is if that news serves some purpose to you other than just gaping at spectacle. If anything, I think this sort of "News Now" mentality does quite directly contribute to terrorism and things like school shootings because it guarantees the attention that the perpetrators desire more than anything. If someone blows someone else up and no one ever hears about it, it's not a very effective demonstration.

      I'm not arguing that we shouldn't get news of this sort of thing at the time of, but the 24hr news cycle means that it gets done with all sorts of speculation, fearmongering and rampant emotionalism that pretty much renders a reasoned discussion of the steps to take difficult, not to mention fueling ridiculous conspiracy theories that actually show up due to discrepancies caused by jumping to conclusions by media outlets that people tend to trust.

    3. Re:Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Suspend their First Amendment rights... is it really worth the cost of a lengthy trial for this or should we just let people determine for themselves whom to trust?

      Do we also shut down Mother Jones, Sierra Club and PETA on the same grounds?

    4. Re:Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Great. Check back in a few months and you'll have all that. You can even use that to compare how all the organizations did during the vent itself and determine which ones were most accurate most quickly and after a few of these you might start seeing a pattern and then you could use that information to decide which organizations might be worth listening to during the next event. Or not.

    5. Re:Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      We could, however, grade where the facts aren't in despute. Is the person in an interview what the media describes them as? Is he really the Dean of Engineering at Stanford, or is he just an assistant professor at stamford? Is person X really a psychiatrist or does she really just have a bachelors in psychology? Is the disgraced politician really a (R), a (D), or an (I)? Various studies from sources such as the Columbia School of Journalism have shown some news sources are much less reliable on such points than others. What about the many cases where there's no real disagreement over the facts, where both 'official from the current government' sources and respected private sources, plus public records going back to previous administrations and such all generally agree?

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    6. Re:Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Here's the thing: just because there is 24 hour news on TV doesn't mean you have to watch TV 24 hours a day.

      Amazing isn't it?

      The same applies for internet news.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    7. Re:Just keep news orgs responsible for accuracy by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      We could, however, grade where the facts aren't in despute. Is the person in an interview what the media describes them as? Is he really the Dean of Engineering at Stanford, or is he just an assistant professor at stamford? Is person X really a psychiatrist or does she really just have a bachelors in psychology? Is the disgraced politician really a (R), a (D), or an (I)? Various studies from sources such as the Columbia School of Journalism have shown some news sources are much less reliable on such points than others. What about the many cases where there's no real disagreement over the facts, where both 'official from the current government' sources and respected private sources, plus public records going back to previous administrations and such all generally agree?

      But unless things get stupid, minor errors like those you mention don't really matter, certainly not when compared with the overall editorial tone of a news outlet.

      If Person X talks bollocks about psychiatry, I don't care whether they've got an O level in psychology or they're Sigmund Freud.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  15. Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure coo by starworks5 · · Score: 0

    The Chicago Tribune reports

    Current and former counter-terrorism officials said that the Boston bombs were built using pressure cookers as the superstructure, black powder or gunpowder as the explosive and ball bearings as additional shrapnel. The officials said that instructions on how to design such bombs are available on the Internet.

    http://slashdot.org/submission/2606257/boston-marathon-bombings-likely-used-pressure-cooker-plans-found-on-the-internet

  16. not fault of social media by KernelMuncher · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's no fault of social media that they are more timely and have more information than local / national news organizations. People want to get the info so they turn to whatever source they can. I don't see it as some crass opportunism to increase page count. It's simply social media sites deliver what the people want more quickly than anybody else.

    1. Re:not fault of social media by OhPlz · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but the summary is assuming that everyone uses Facebook and Twitter. I don't, and I'm sure I'm not alone. A lot of people wouldn't know where to look on Twitter or Facebook to see the latest information. They may know some of the local news outlets and visit their web sites. By re-posting info from social media, the news sites are enabling the non-Facebook, non-Twitter crowd to be as up to date as everyone else. This is far more useful (aside from the danger of misinformation) than a vague news article that might only get updated every half hour or so.

      My first thought on seeing news sites re-posting social media wasn't "that's crass". My first thought was "that's a really clever idea". The sites I visited also had their own content.

      Remember back to 9/11. CNN was reduced to a text-only, single page site in order to handle the load. The small number of well known news sites made it difficult to access information as it unfolded. Internet forums picked up some of the slack. Now with social media coupled with the news sites, it's less likely people will hit a single point of failure or bottleneck. The data is everywhere, pick your aggregator. In the case of emergency, this seems like a good thing.

    2. Re:not fault of social media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you use reddit you would have noticed a nice hypocrisy yesterday. The same people who would blast media for fear-mongering and exploiting wild accusations or loaded segment-titles were the ones whoring for Karma as they posted their own takes on the bombing under loaded titles etc.

    3. Re:not fault of social media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agree with less SECRECY too.

      Oh we got an ongoing investigation bla fuckty bla
      Compare with...
      @Jackass - THat fuckin cop hit me in the head with a STICK!

  17. Caught my eye by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    across the country, office workers first learned of the attack when someone posted a message on a Facebook page.

    I have no idea if this is true or not, but unfortunately I believe it.

    People waste so much paid work time on Facebook. Why don't they put it to productive use, and post on Slashdot instead?

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    1. Re:Caught my eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      across the country, office workers first learned of the attack when someone posted a message on a Facebook page.

      I have no idea if this is true or not, but unfortunately I believe it.

      People waste so much paid work time on Facebook. Why don't they put it to productive use, and post on Slashdot instead?

      Social media pings messages to cell phones, most offices don't have a radio or TV on in the background. Of course social media is going to the source of where people hear of breaking news, plus whatever crap 50 people had for breakfast.

  18. How is this different from the phone? by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 2

    People made calls and sent texts immediately. This affects their monthly bill. Based on this TFS's reasoning, should we not see AT&T and Sprint as exploiting the tragedy as well?

    1. Re:How is this different from the phone? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      People made calls and sent texts immediately. This affects their monthly bill. Based on this TFS's reasoning, should we not see AT&T and Sprint as exploiting the tragedy as well?

      All those texts and phone calls overwhelmed and slowed the local cell services for hours.
      In related news, AT&T wireless users didn't notice the difference. :-)

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      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    2. Re:How is this different from the phone? by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Cell providers only profit if they calls go through, and so they only profit to the point where they can connect a call. They would be taking advantage of the situation only if there was some location that they knew would be affected by bombs and made sure and built out the infrastructure to handle it, and then added a surcharge for some sort of peak coverage. Otherwise, it's just higher call volume.

    3. Re:How is this different from the phone? by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 1

      I agree. [I]t's just higher call volume.That's the same situation that TFS describes with social networks.

      As first responders treated the wounded and the minutes ticked past, news organizations began vacuuming up Twitter and Facebook posts from around Boston and posting it on their Websites

      The communications medium is being used more, but since it is an internet based medium it's treated as something new. What's especially odd about this piece is that it's acting like the "Tech Websites" were somehow remarkable in their actions. I was looking at CNN.com to get updates on this and it too featured live updates lifted or repeated from social media. If the there are sites we use to get news, and we go to these tragedy or no, then it is utterly unsurprising that these sites reported as much as they could about this news. (And as one Slashdotter helpfully pointed out yesterday, Slashdot was up when many other sites were down on 9/11, so maybe a proliferation of important news like this isn't a bad thing.) One almost suspects that the scare term "cyber" should have been attached to this somehow (e.g. cyber-exploitation, cyber-yellow-journalism etc.) to enhance the feeling it's something new. The most puzzling thing about this piece is this:

      When a disaster strikes, and many of those same news Websites post 'live updates' that incorporate tons of social-networking posts, they face accusations of exploiting the tragedy in the name of pageviews and revenue.

      There are only two concrete accusations mentioned in the linked (which, incidentally, is to a Slashdot article). FTFA:

      “Your tech news site shouldn’t be live-blogging this,” journalist John Paul Titlow Tweeted at one point, a sentiment echoed (and reposted) by others.

      “Tech blogs poking their amateurish noses into areas in which they offer neither authority nor insight is depressing,” Milo Yiannopoulos wrote in an email a few hours later. “It’s also spreading: shameless, tasteless pageview-chasing was to be expected after today’s tragedy in Boston from the likes of Mashable and TechCrunch. But how surprising, and how sad, to see The Verge and Wired getting in on the act as well.” This isn’t journalism, he insisted: “It’s attention-seeking.”

      From whom do the vague accusations come? Well we've a tech journalist who tweets down his nose at tech websites, apparently reckoning that a website that normally talks about tech can't pass on info from social media to meet the high standards of real news sites like CNN. Oddly enough this doesn't stop him from retweeting a pic of the bombing from Josh Robin. And then we've a brief complaint excerpted from an email by Milo Yiannopoulos, a Slashdot contributor. His complaint again amounts to the notion that tech websites can't act as intermediaries for twitter and facebook updates as well as legitimate journalists. These were the only two concrete complaints and they, in turn, were reported by Nick Kolakowski on Slashdot and linked in a summery here.

      Here's my new journalistic law, may Betteridge approve:

      "Any article or article summary that claims an entity 'faces accusations' without mentioning the accusers is itself stirring said controversy for the sake of traffic."

  19. It Doesn't Matter... by JJJJust · · Score: 2

    It doesn't particularly matter if they were trying to exploit it or not since they just can't do non-tech major breaking news reporting as good as the big boys.

    Take The Verge, for example, who seem to not grasp the simple concept that if you're going to try and live blog, you write from the bottom up to allow for rapid F5'ing. Mashable's content is no better than one going to Twitter and typing "Boston" in the search box.

    If you want to exploit something, you need to give them reason to stick around while you fleece them for ad dollars... I clicked off the tech sites and went to CNN and the Wall Street Journal (the latter, to me, had superior coverage).

    1. Re:It Doesn't Matter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elite Production and Editing, resulting in a high end presentation, isn't the same as real truth!

      When public officials get to walk off the stage not answering questions (like why were ppl told to be calm when fucking bombs were going off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sI3ASU0ad48 ) clearly these fascist trained art producers are even LESS qualified than the Tim Pool's and the Luke Rudkowski's trying to shove a camera into henry kissinger's ugly fucking oath breaking face as he runs away in the same insolent arrogant fucking elite style, to his security force hidy-hole.

      Although I hear some can make shit completely fucking vanish as well. check it out. http://www.prisonplanet.com/video-major-oddity-during-bombing-coverage.html UPDATE: now the video is gone. Big surprise there.

  20. Obligatory xkcd by mwissel · · Score: 0

    ...is this time a what-if.

    http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/

    "What's the worst thing that can happen if you misuse a pressure cooker" someone asked shortly ago. What are the odds of that!

    (hint: news say they found the bombs were built inside pressure cookers)

    1. Re:Obligatory xkcd by Spad · · Score: 1

      Then let us all be glad they didn't read that first and cook up a batch of dioxygen difluoride to use.

    2. Re:Obligatory xkcd by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      Which was a cool article, but did not describe any good way to make a portable bomb a pressure cooker. It did, however, describe very well how you could kill yourself and everyone in your kitchen by using it as part of your chemistry set.

  21. Who are we talking about again? by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Informative

    As first responders treated the wounded and the minutes ticked past, news organizations began vacuuming up Twitter and Facebook posts from around Boston and posting it on their Websites, along with 'regular' text updates. A Vine video-snippet of a bomb going off near the finish line, knocking a runner off his feet, ended up embedded into dozens of blog postings. When a disaster strikes, and many of those same news Websites post 'live updates' that incorporate tons of social-networking posts, they face accusations of exploiting the tragedy in the name of pageviews and revenue.

    So, wait, are talking about "tech websites" or "traditional journalists" here? Because when I first heard about the explosions (from Twitter, naturally), I went to boston.com - which was in some kind of "low bandwidth" mode where they front page was only showing tweets related to the explosions.

    "Traditional" media throughout the aftermath referenced tweets. NPR referenced the Boston Police Department's Twitter feed for updates. Local TV stations turned to Twitter, Vine, and YouTube to find videos of the explosion.

    I guess only tech websites aren't "allowed" to mine Twitter? Because from what I could tell, everyone was doing that, from print to radio to TV to the web.

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    You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
  22. Nothing we say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is going to change anything. Let's get over it and realise that some people and organisations are simply abhorrent. Also, enough about Boston; lets move on to some other news, shall we?

  23. Why was this stupid question by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 3, Insightful

    legitimized with an editorial?

    Traditional news sites repost content from social networks and blog sites, and then traditional media blames social networks and blog sites for exploiting tragedy and the errors they themselves repeated.

    Who fucking cares what they think. You should be attacking them directly, not defending yourselves with equivocation about page views and advertising. Newspapers and TV news have ads too, and their websites are even more obnoxious with them.

  24. Maybe... by sunking2 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just like Slashdot is by posting a non story for clicks.

  25. Re: Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure by PuppiesAndGoats · · Score: 1

    I didn't want to be scolded in twitter for being heartless, so I haven't expressed my concerns: will someone take this issue up as a reactionary justification for stricter internet regulation (CISPA) a la PATRIOT act? We all know the pudding inside politicians heads is only capable of reaction, be it to money or tragedy. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but the nuttier of the gun nuts say the recent shootings are a conspiracy-- screw it, I'll say it: YOU'LL HAVE TO PRY THE INTERNET FROM MY COLD DEAD CARPAL TUNNEL SUFFERING HANDS. /crazy

  26. They could be useful... by mozumder · · Score: 0

    Social media could help crowdsource identification of all the images that are coming into the FBI tip line. There's probably thousands of images, with some images having thousands of people.

    Social media sites could help identify every single one of those people to help the police follow up and interview them to see if they saw anything suspicious?

    1. Re:They could be useful... by AaronLS · · Score: 1

      Yeh, somewhere there's probably film/pictures of someone leaving the bomb. You could probably correlate it with other pictures/videos from earlier that would help you backtrack the person's tracks.

    2. Re:They could be useful... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that would be ILLEGAL and violate the fifth ammendment. The constitution does NOT EXPLICITLY permit video surveillance.

      (roman_mir, blocked by liberal moderators)

    3. Re:They could be useful... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      that would be ILLEGAL and violate the fifth ammendment. The constitution does NOT EXPLICITLY permit video surveillance.

      (roman_mir, blocked by liberal moderators)

      Joke or not? It's impossible to tell.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  27. Three Words by CanHasDIY · · Score: 0

    Welcome

    To

    Capitalism.

    Not going to speculate as to whether what has happened is or is not morally correct, but that's precisely how for-profit business works in a capitalist society - whatever gets the dollars coming in is posted, regardless of how tasteless or unoriginal the content may be.

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    1. Re:Three Words by CanHasDIY · · Score: 0

      In-before-the-trolls PS: by "What has happened" I of course mean in regards to the posting/re-posting of sensationalist video and social networking posts, not the actual bombing itself.

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      An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
  28. "Confirmed" is the new "reported" by Nukenbar · · Score: 2

    If people would simply put, "it is reported" in tweets instead of "it is confirmed" (when it is not), we could really cut down on a lot of misinformation.

    1. Re:"Confirmed" is the new "reported" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Possibly, but do you really trust the average social media zombie to distinguish the two?

  29. Don't care... by dthanna · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If The Verge, Slashdot, Wired or, heck, Gizmag want to write about the explosion - it is their 1st Amendment right to do so. Same goes for the National Enquirer, STAR, or any of the other tabloid journals. This isn't any different than WSJ, NYT, Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, Al Jazeera, etc. can write about tech items, happiness, tragedy, cat getting stuck in a tree or anything else considered newsworthy.

    Each outlet will be judged by how well they do their job, and will receive an appropriate reputation.

    Since our news organizations are a combination of subscriber and advertiser revenue based, they have to write according to their generating said revenue.

    We can either just deal with the situation as it stands or have state-run news organizations. I really don't think anyone would be comfortable with the latter as even approaching truthfulness or integrity in the long term.

    If the 'Big Boys' don't like the upstarts encroaching on their turf - all I can say is.. too bad.

  30. Re: Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
    That xkcd does not include instructions on how to make such a bomb. It doesn't mention black powder at all, or ball bearings.

    It is also quite incorrect. It claims that a consumer-grade cooker won't go above 2 atm. That's patently absurd. If you block the exit and the safety valve fails, the pressure can easily reach a level that the metal will burst.

    But that's if the safety valve fails. Well, the best course of action in any operation is to never assume that the safety valve will work properly and to never push the envelope where it has to work to keep you alive.

    Even if the safety valve functions, the hole it opens is limited in size. If the amount of heat being applied creates the pressure more rapidly than it can be released by the safety valve, you still get enough pressure to rupture the vessel. Using black powder as the pressure generation source would most likely create enough pressure fast enough, and if one of those ball bearing happened to block the safety valve hole, you suddenly have no safety valve.

    Along with assuming the safety valve functions properly, there is the assumption that the pressure vessel has not been compromised. Stress fractures or damage to the vessel can create a weakness that can rupture.

    And that, dear reader, means that the worst that can happen in a normal kitchen is that it can, indeed, explode and kill you.

  31. Did they? Yes, now stop talking about it by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Did tech websites glom onto the tragedy too much?

    Yes.

    Now stop talking about it, my cousin Allison is in surgery for her knee for the second day, and I want you to talk about something else.

    Like dinosaur quizzes, or how you may be able to treat atherosclerosis with a common drug.

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    -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
  32. I'm not feeling the outrage here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, seriously, here was the New York Post headline over the recent Tiger Woods incident: "Tiger Puts Balls in Wrong Place Again."

  33. Correction by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

    Nerval's Lobster has a correction for the original post.

    "I must apologize for calling any of these outlets "news organizations" , I was incorrect. Now back to regularly scheduled programming. "

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    "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
  34. Slashdot too by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    Didn't Slashdot do the exact same thing yesterday?

    On the other hand, not saying anything seems callous, so you're damned no matter what you do.

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    Proverbs 21:19
    1. Re:Slashdot too by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I got back from work and learned of the explosions from Slashdot first, opened a tab to googlenews and caught on that it was still too recent to get a fully accurate understanding of this story. I read the comments here and did get information that proved to be accurate (applause for the good users here). There's nothing wrong with Slashdot posting the story, it is news that matters.

    2. Re:Slashdot too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > There's nothing wrong with Slashdot posting the story,

      Except that it literally doesn't matter. 7k ppl die in US highway accidents daily. This is just sensationalism. Specifically, it is wrong.

      > it is news that matters.

      Nope.

    3. Re:Slashdot too by isorox · · Score: 1

      > There's nothing wrong with Slashdot posting the story,

      Except that it literally doesn't matter. 7k ppl die in US highway accidents daily.

      Wow, 2.5 million people die in us highway accidents a year? That's about 1 in 140 people per year. Ouch.

      In the uk it's 1 in 20000 a year.

    4. Re:Slashdot too by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      In 2011 there were just over 32,000 traffic fatalities in the U.S., which works out to about 87 per day.

      http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?post=6ba9947b-1a9e-43bd-b752-476d7777e559

    5. Re:Slashdot too by TheSync · · Score: 1

      No way, the US only had 33,808 road deaths in 2010.

      US road deaths per 100k ppl is 12.3, UK's is 3.59.
      US road deaths per 1 billion km is 8.5, UK's is 5.8.

      We drive more & farther in the US than the UK, but we're still worse drivers...

    6. Re:Slashdot too by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      Okay, I did a little more googling...

      In 2010 worldwide there were 1.24 road traffic deaths (wow!)

      http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/road-traffic-accidents/by-country/

      U.S.: 33,808 latest year (I believe it's 2010)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

      The U.S. didn't even break the top 100 in traffic deaths based on population...

      http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/road-traffic-accidents/by-country/

    7. Re:Slashdot too by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      Great Britain in 2009 had 2,222 deaths according to the above wikipedia link. And worldwide is 1.24 "million" in 2010.

      India, then China have the most, India 133,938, 68,000 for China.

    8. Re:Slashdot too by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      7k ppl die in US highway accidents daily

      That's out by a factor of about 100, but thanks for trying to cheer us up.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    9. Re:Slashdot too by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      In 2010 worldwide there were 1.24 road traffic deaths (wow!)

      How can you have 0.24 of a death?

      (Yes, I know what you meant to write...)

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  35. Re: Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure by hawguy · · Score: 1

    That xkcd does not include instructions on how to make such a bomb. It doesn't mention black powder at all, or ball bearings.

    It is also quite incorrect. It claims that a consumer-grade cooker won't go above 2 atm. That's patently absurd. If you block the exit and the safety valve fails, the pressure can easily reach a level that the metal will burst.

    I think most modern pressure cookers are designed so the gasket between the lid and the pot will give way and leak pressure before the metal pot explodes so you'd have to have a failure of the pressure valve, the pressure release safety valve *and* the gasket. Older pressure cookers often didn't have that that gasket level of safety, so a failure of the pressure valve and safety *could* result in explosion.

    But that's if the safety valve fails. Well, the best course of action in any operation is to never assume that the safety valve will work properly and to never push the envelope where it has to work to keep you alive.

    Isn't that pretty much the normal use-case for the pressure cooker. The normal pressure valve is typically small and relatively easily clogged, so everytime you use it, you're counting on the safety release valve being there just in case the primary pressure release becomes clogged. If there wasn't that extra safety valve, people would be afraid to cook anything but plain water to prevent clogging the pressure valve.

    Even if the safety valve functions, the hole it opens is limited in size. If the amount of heat being applied creates the pressure more rapidly than it can be released by the safety valve, you still get enough pressure to rupture the vessel. Using black powder as the pressure generation source would most likely create enough pressure fast enough, and if one of those ball bearing happened to block the safety valve hole, you suddenly have no safety valve.

    Safety valve or no, a big enough explosive is going to rupture the device, but that's well outside of the normal operating conditions of a pressure cooker - a household stove can only put so much energy into the pressure cooker and a 1cm hole can let out an awful lot of steam.

    Along with assuming the safety valve functions properly, there is the assumption that the pressure vessel has not been compromised. Stress fractures or damage to the vessel can create a weakness that can rupture.

    And that, dear reader, means that the worst that can happen in a normal kitchen is that it can, indeed, explode and kill you.

    Yeah, that's the worst case, but you're probably more likely to die from your stove leaking natural gas into your house than having a modern pressure cooker explode.

  36. Curious stock market fluctuations by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 0

    Apropos of nothing, note that the day before the Marathon bombings:

    1) The DOW dropped 250 points (1.7%).
    3) Gold (GLD) dropped $20 or so, (roughly 15%).

    An explanation for this could be: some large players in the financial arena knew of the bombings ahead of time, and sold stock/gold in anticipation of the market response to another 9/11-style incident.

    I'm not suggesting that this is what happened, it might be a coincidence. I'm hoping some of the investigation will show that this is indeed a coincidence (or not)*. This is a good fit for the definition of "suspicious".

    *I'm aware that the news media (and financial pundits in general) post explanations for market behaviour every day. Gold dropped because Cyprus is being forced to sell of its gold, and the Dow dropped because of worse-than-expected China growth. I'm suspicious that the Cyprus situation was unknown and suddenly revealed last Friday, and I'm especially suspicious of reports that explain past activity which cannot predict future activity - even conditionally.

    1. Re:Curious stock market fluctuations by femtobyte · · Score: 1

      And I'm especially suspicious of wild-ass conspiracy theories that would require the cooperation of a massive number of players. Sure, a half dozen people could know about attacks and keep it secret. But enough people to significantly move the national exchange averages and world gold market (without all the sales coming from a suspiciously tiny number of sources), all conspiring together to keep a terrorist attack secret? Not a single whistle-blower unnerved by the thought of murdering civilians who might call in a tip in advance? Your blind paranoia, and deep misunderstanding of how actual institutions work, is astounding.

    2. Re:Curious stock market fluctuations by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

      And I'm especially suspicious of wild-ass conspiracy theories that would require the cooperation of a massive number of players. Sure, a half dozen people could know about attacks and keep it secret. But enough people to significantly move the national exchange averages and world gold market (without all the sales coming from a suspiciously tiny number of sources), all conspiring together to keep a terrorist attack secret? Not a single whistle-blower unnerved by the thought of murdering civilians who might call in a tip in advance? Your blind paranoia, and deep misunderstanding of how actual institutions work, is astounding.

      Are you sure "wild-ass conspiracy theory" is the right term, since a) I'm pointing to actual events that could be investigated, and b) I'm not stating that it happened that way, only that some investigation would be prudent?

      Also, is "blind paranoia" the appropriate term, since c) I'm not especially afraid, emotional, or irrational and I'm not trying to make others feel afraid?

      If you're so astounded, then tell me how actual institutions work. Allay my suspicions and reassure me by using logic and reference (also acceptable: opinion backed by experience and scholarship).

      A troll wouldn't be able to do that. Can you?

    3. Re:Curious stock market fluctuations by femtobyte · · Score: 1

      I agree, a troll would not be able to allay your suspicions. Nor might any entirely rational and intelligent response; arguing with "birthers" or young-earth-creationists is similarly futile. Nonetheless, I'll make one brief attempt:

      1) some classes of conspiracy are only amenable operation withing small tight-knit groups of "true believer" participants;
      2) typical terrorist attacks are in this class: while there may be a huge number of after-the-fact "sympathizers," actual operational knowledge is kept within a very small "cell" of participants, because
      3) spreading the existence of such plans to more than a tiny number of participants rapidly increases chances of intelligence leaks, with disastrous consequences for all conspirators involved.

      5) while world wealth is strongly concentrated, it still takes a large number of players to swing world financial markets;
      6) and, with the visibility of the pre-attack market swing, the "conspirators" are also drawing attention to themselves, thus need to ask the protection of an overwhelming majority of all other agents (financial regulators, journalists, other analysts) who might expose them.
      7) this separates the "wild-ass conspiracy theory" from a "reasonable conspiracy theory" about the conspiracy of a small "cell" of players.

      8) There are alternate mechanisms through which large numbers of investors/governments/journalists appear to "conspire," but these have different characteristics from "plunge the stock market with a terrorist attack";
      9) for example, the world power elite may "conspire" to install brutal dictators in coups, and other acts of murder-for-money;
      10) however, in these cases there is a generally benefit, or lack of substantial harm, to the entire wealthy class (not just the "winners" extracting money from all the "losers" in a mini-crash);
      11) furthermore, the actions will retrospectively be justified as positive in the media (the brutal dictators become "moderate reformers allied with the West"),
      12) so that by the time lines of "conspiracy" are drawn in the public mind, it'll be "what's the big deal about Iran-Contra?," and the perpetrators will be able to openly continue their careers without being labeled murderous monsters

      Based on these considerations, your conspiracy theory is of the "wild-assed" type, inconsistent with institutional patterns of "actual" conspiracy.

    4. Re:Curious stock market fluctuations by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      1 - The DJIA is useless as an indicator of economic activity. Not just bad - *COMPLETELY USELESS* The S&P500 has been steadily rising the last few months, and mostly still is.

      2 - Gold has been dropping consistently for roughly a month, ever since some European countries that are in trouble had indicated that they might offload some of their holdings to pay off their debts.

      You're correlation hunting.

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      My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
    5. Re:Curious stock market fluctuations by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Mate, don't bother arguing with conspiracy theorists. It's like feeding trolls, but without the potential for humour.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  37. Contradicting Betteridge by organgtool · · Score: 2

    Sorry, Betteridge, but I have to agree with this headline. When I first learned of the bombing, I attempted to get to footage of the live feed. When I clicked on the link, I was treated to an upbeat commercial with two guys joking around and playing guitar in an attempt to sell Geico insurance. I thought there must be some mistake because no one in their right mind would force a viewer to watch commercials before getting news about a tragedy, but sure enough the live feed proceeded after the commercial. Humanity has commercialized tragedy much sooner than I expected.

    1. Re:Contradicting Betteridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a little unfair. Those sites are programmed to show ads regardless of the content you are attempting to access. News channels will break away for commercials as well.

    2. Re:Contradicting Betteridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely it was a default to show a commercial before any feed, regardless of what it is? (I don't know anything about the way these sites set up their streams.)

    3. Re:Contradicting Betteridge by organgtool · · Score: 1

      That's a little unfair. Those sites are programmed to show ads regardless of the content you are attempting to access.

      Ok, I'll give you that. But I hope this puts a fire under their asses to change the behavior for breaking news on tragedies.

      News channels will break away for commercials as well.

      There were no commercials during the coverage of the Oklahoma City bombing as well as 9/11. If the news is important enough to interrupt the current broadcast for live coverage, they traditionally stick with the live coverage and don't try to commercialize the tragedy.

  38. No by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

    No tech "journalists" did not. The media did.

    One thing wrong about this is taking people on Twitter's word for it. Twitter and other social networks are the web equivalent of everyone shouting OMG ponies except it's not ponies.....

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    Gorkman

  39. Slashdot just as guilty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Add Slashdot to the list of websites posting content outside their area of expertise.

  40. Re: Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh I am just reading that article now, and it COULD be the proxy/firewall here at work but - the article doesn't seem to be linking to XKCD.

    The way it reads now (Maybe the Tribune edited the article?) reads:

    "The sources, who asked not to be identified, said instructions on how to design such bombs are available on the internet."

  41. Lost Freedom Pisses People off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not surprised at all. They could have acted like free press and been fighting for our constitution and bill of rights. But instead, PROFIT$

  42. What are they supposed to do? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Not provide as much coverage out of a sense of good taste?

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    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
  43. No mention of Gawker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surprised Gawker wasn't mention in the list what with their almost immediate take on blaming "right-wing" groups for the bombing. Disgusting. There comment section is full of some of the most vile people on the internet.

  44. I appreciate the effort by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    I appreciate the effort, but for all the well-chosen words in your post, it's nothing more than a restatement of your initial position.

    I see no reference to experience or external authority, no allusions to history or similar situations, and no compelling logical flow from a premise to a conclusion. It fairly reeks of sophistry, using such vague terms as "large number of players", "overwhelming majority", and "number rapidly increases".

    For contrast, a credible argument could have compared the amount of Cyprus gold with the world total amount, or cited previous (ie - historical) stock market drops with similar causes and drawn an analogy with the present situation. Facts and reference combine to make a powerful argument.

    In short, you've added nothing to your premise, which is essentially attacking the person while hand-waving and storytelling.

    I knew what your position was, the challenge was to defend it.

    A troll would not have done more than you did. This was rather easy. When you attacked the person instead of the argument, it became shooting fish in a barrel.

    1. Re:I appreciate the effort by femtobyte · · Score: 1

      "Allusions to history"? You need me to cite historical examples of every day the value of gold has changed several percent without terrorist attacks, as if speculative market price fluctuations are an unprecedentedly rare? Gold prices jump up and down all the time; so do stock market prices (and if you need historical "proof" for those statements, fuck you). The burden of proof is on you to show how these are caused by global terrorist conspiracies (instead of normal market forces that jerk prices around every day). There aren't further useful "references from history" because the kind of conspiracy you're talking about hasn't historically happened --- so the only evidence is all of fucking history lacking such events. If you claimed cheese-eating moon monsters dropped the price of gold by pooping out gold bricks, how would I "historically" disprove that (aside from the blanket statement that such hasn't ever happened in history)? The burden of proof is on you to show how a historically unprecedented wacky conspiracy is true --- prove me wrong by giving well-established historical precedents for global-level markets being impacted by sales from terrorist cabals prior to an attack, or show why this instance specifically breaks from past historical precedent.

  45. Orwellian double-speak by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Can we dispense with the term "homemade"? This is a bogus term on many levels. A) It implies that there are store-bought (or restaurant-quality) devices available. It's about as useful as calling some fancy devices 'gourmet' bombs. B) It also implies a connection to so-called 'homegrown' terrorists in the same way that the Benghazi attack was due to (and justified by) a video (which it wasn't but what difference does that make). Call them what they are: an improvised explosive device (IED). That is an accurate term because these were not made in a factory and it does not attempt to assign blame.

  46. news media profits from crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    9/11, sandy hoax, and everything in between

  47. What about sports media by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

    I first heard of this bombing on ESPN at the restaurant I was eating lunch at. The Boston marathon is a legitimate sports event, but they continued covering and discussing the bombing well past the point of it being a sports story. Was ESPN exploiting the tragedy?

  48. Those horrible bloggers by russotto · · Score: 2

    Don't they know that exploiting tragedy for profit is the job of the mainstream media?
    (as is handwringing over doing just that)

    Seriously, if you're in the news business, whether a blogger or a regular media member, exploiting tragedies is part and parcel of your business. "If it bleeds, it leads", right?

  49. Re: Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol you said modern cooker & natural gas in the same sentence LMAO

  50. "exploit" by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    in my country all major news media relies on ad-generated revenue. they exploit everything from human interest stories to the weather.

  51. Wonkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't use facefuck or twitthead and got timely accurate news. Probably more so than the people that rely on the rumor social mills.

  52. Re: Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your mother should have swallowed.

  53. Thank you by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Thank you. An island of expertise in a roiling sea of opinion.

    You're correlation hunting.

    I sometimes wonder about the general reaction to "correlation hunting". I'm not in any way defending the position, only asking whether it's a coincidence. Is calling something a "conspiracy theory" the new way to shut down a conversation?

    I always thought good science starts with the phrase "that's odd...", but maybe it doesn't apply in some circumstances.

    Anyway, thank you for the reassuring perspective.

    1. Re:Thank you by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      Well, you picked two volatile indicators and tried to extrapolate meaning from them based on a loosely correlated event. That's pretty much the definition of correlation hunting.

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      My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
  54. Fact Troll is BEST Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have seen you posting these little factoids right after the top post all day.

    Let me be the first to say if this is the kind of trolling we are gonna get on /. then I, for one, welcome our fact bearing troll overlords!

    Sure beats APK BS

  55. There is no license to cover bombs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A tech site may have someone familiar with IEDs.

  56. Out of touch ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been out of touch the last few days working on a project.
    * no TV
    * no social networking - actually, I don't do those things
    * no radio
    I have emailed lots, posted on forums lots, and visited my normal websites, but this is the first I've heard about anything special happening in Boston.

    Last time anything happened in Boston, Kennedy died.

    Did something really important happen?

    Ah ... did a search and got my answer. Minor incident. Hardly worth all the attention. Something like that would barely make the news in other countries.

    500+ people were still killed in accidents on roads in the USA yesterday - no coverage on that story.

  57. I have to disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    - Tech reporters aren't neophytes when it comes to covering cops, fires and disasters. Most tech reporters began in the newspaper world.

    - Social media tools are one of the most heavily covered tech areas. Tech reporters spend time learning about these tools and how they are applied. Tech sites typically lead mainstream media sites in applying these tools. These tools are tested to the max during major news events.

    - I can't say where most tech publications writing about the Boston Marathon focused in on tech issues, but many did. They wrote about the cell network overloads, and on topics such as the need for investigators to stitch together composites of video and still photos and the technology that might make that possible. These are things that mainstream media get to as second-day stories. For tech, they are first day stories.

    - To imagine that tech reporters are sitting around a newsroom and wondering how they can "play up humanity's worst for their own gain" is garbage. What they are trying to do is contribute in some way. Or maybe it would make more sense in the middle of disaster to write about the latest flat screen or clock rate and just ignore the whole lest be accused of exploiting it somehow.

  58. Kind of a silly presumption by technomom · · Score: 1

    You can say this about any for profit industry that benefits from disaster - media outlets, mobile phone service providers, funeral homes, medical institutions and doctors, nurses, paramedics. Life is life, and we have businesses based around reacting to disasters, pain, and suffering. I don't think anyone in those industries leaps for joy when it happens though. To pick on the tech industry specifically is kind of weak. They're pretty far down the line in terms of the beneficiaries of the death economy.

  59. Modern news exploited the bombing more. by plebeian · · Score: 1

    My personal experience was the major news organizations exploited this more than Twitter or Facebook. Twitter and Facebook allowed people on the ground to share their experiences where as the news organizations were sitting around talking about the emotional tragedy of an 8 year old boy getting blown up. What i mean to say is that the major news organizations were spinning the story to have the most emotional impact and thus gain the largest audience whereas bloggers each have their own bias. You get a more honest view(not necessarily more accurate) by sampling the blogs than you ever will watching the spin that we call news.

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    "I myself am made entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
  60. Re: Boston Marathon bombings likely used pressure by Cormacus · · Score: 1

    I think you're right, in fact its been my experience that most modern cookers are designed so the gasket between the lid and the pot will give way and leak pressure pretty much every time you use it. They've also been redesigned so you can't lose the little weight that sits on top, but that means that you a) don't get the "chukka chukka" noise and b) they are messier and harder to clean.

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    Mon chien, il n'a pas du nez. Comment scent-il? TrÃs mauvais!
  61. Non-story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News channels are pissy at social media and aggregators for having an unfair advantage.

    If people submitted their cell phone video to FOXNEWS and not FACEBOOK this would not be a story.

  62. duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did Tech Websites Exploit the Boston Marathon Bombing?

    Duh, yeah of course. The Internet is a tool to exploit information, it's the way gov'ts (which primary task is to exploit information for the benefit of the people) designed it (and the corporations love it).

  63. The real story here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that "formal" news organizations are frustrated at their increasing (and mostly self-created) irrelevance as corporate shills, propaganda outlets that gave up real journalism long ago and protect the status quo more than anything. The days of Woodward and Bernstein are gone. Now they are struggling to profit because people have realized they are irrelevant, so they are lashing out with propaganda trying to stigmatize "non-formal" media that is doing a better job.

  64. Humm tech stepping out of their area by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facts are facts, whether sensationalized or not. the fact remains that in this day and age of tech, it was tech that gave law enforcement the ability to act as quickly as they did. Tech collated all the raw data - something that the many traditional companies have yet to embrace.
    This seems more like someone not doing their job and getting called on it