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Police Capture Second Marathon Bombing Suspect in Watertown, Mass.
Police have captured believed Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who was "pinned down" in a boat stored behind a house in Watertown, Massachusetts. You can listen to the live police feed here.
Over and over again.
So the Sox can still get the game in, right?
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
Awesome! So glad that someone posted the live Boston police scanner stream. The scanner was VERY much ahead of any live news.
A parked boat is probably not the best way to escape Boston and evade the police
Nothing "paranoid Mulsim conspiracy nut" about the father's response he is still in the denial phase that a parent would be when they learn their child has done something really, really bad.
The "lockdown" of Boston is a bit disturbing. But, rest assured the LAPD would have burned the boat to the ground. Boston PD seems to be a bit more professional and restrained.
Let's remember, folks, that until we see actual evidence and he's tried, that he's a *suspect.* I'm all for the consequences if he is proven to be the perpetrator, but let's not all jump on the finger-pointing-based-conviction bandwagon.
Yeah - cause shooting at cops always proves how innocent you are.
CBS reported that few years back Russians warned FBI about older brother being radicalized. So FBI asked him, he said "nope", they said "ok" and let him go. And they totally forgot about it - he wasn't on the list of suspects...
That's "cooperation" alright...
Caught because someone noticed something strange in the backyard and called it in.
Like many other problems, ordinary folks pitching in to help in an appropriate way can sure help to fix things.
Is it safe to go out now?
Of course not. 4chan might decide you're dark skinned and subject you to their full sanction - circling someone who kinda looks like you on a picture. I believe that's called "vigilantism" and we are sorely afraid of it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but based on the actual information we have (as given by the news media to date), this "monster" may be involved to the degree of anywhere between "mastermind of terrorist bombing operation, detonated the bombs, shot various innocent people in the process" to "forced by actual terrorist brother to hang around him for the time period in question".
I'd like a little more detail (that is, any) as to specific charges and evidence before making such a characterization.
Exactly. Shooting a cop, running, throwing bombs out windows, more shootouts, are all things that innocent people do.
Clearly, calling up the BPD and saying "hey we are the guys in the pictures and we didn't do it! lets talk!" would be crazy
Perhaps not innocent, that doesn't mean he is the right guy.
Proper trials are not only there to make sure that innocent people doesn't get punished. If a rapist gets convicted of murder that means that the murderer goes free.
"Beyond reasonable doubt" isn't only there to protect innocents, it also makes sure that cases doesn't get closed until we know that we've got the right guy.
Han Solo of course.
Maybe I am not current and entirely out of line, but with all the locking-down and searching-of-houses happening: what happened to the constitutional rights re: search and seizure? Suspending them for an entire town and effectively rendering it into a war zone with suspended rights to apprehend one guy how killed two people seems a little... ah... third world?
He'd called his uncle after the bombings and asked for his forgiveness. It's said he idolized his older brother, who family members called the bad one. Yes, now we will be able to know all of the true motives they had for commiting this carnage. We won't like or agree with the answers he gives, but they will be answers, better than guessing at the 'why' of this horrid act.
And it still took them 4 days to find two guys. Imagine trying to solve the murder of an 18 year old gangbanger whose killer is identified as a dark skinned male from 15-25, 5'10" medium build? And nobody in the neighborhood ain't seen shit. Police work is hard.
Usually rats flee sinking ships. This is the first time a sinking rat fled to a ship.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Fuck religion and everything that comes with it: horrific acts world-wide, subjugation of women in everywhere, and persecution of anyone who dares to speak against it.
Fixed that for you.
Unfortunately for your argument this darkskin person they sanctioned in fact had several bombs in their vehicle which they threw at police vehicles.
A lie can run round the world before the truth can get its boots on. Unfortunately, for your argument.
The "darkskin", as you like to put it - the one whose picture appeared in Rupert Murdoch's newspaper - is the innocent one. People rushed to judgement.
The guys who were throwing bombs and firing off guns right and left were pasty-pale people.
It's like we're forming up a lynch mob! I've had my ass handed to me for suggesting due process for everyone before.... Maybe this time I'll just stand in back with a pitchfork and wait for every one to calm down. By tomorrow every one here will be screaming for it again.
On the one hand, we must maintain the due process of law that makes this country great. On the other hand, threads like this help us vent.
Therefore, I suggest that we throw him in a food processor, and blow him out a vent.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
It is not. The people advising torture are on a moral level lower than this person who is a SUSPECT at this time. But many here do not have the minimal moral standards required to actually understand what that means.
A lot of anger and no morals or brains. That put more than one dictator in power.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
You have seen them? Where could I get a view of them? All I have seen is a few videos of some guys with backpacks running about that were presented to me by the cops, telling me "this is the guys we're looking for". About the shooting and throwing explosives at cops, again, do you have a source? All I have is cops telling me he shot at them and threw explosives.
Audi alteram partem, anyone?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Running a marathon is torture? Hmm...that thing in Boston they were doing must have been a group torture event then.
But you knew that the parent was joking. I'm thinking you just posted here just because you wanted to make sure that everybody knows that you are against torture, and that they should all know how evil the US is. Rest assured, we're all happy for you.
Careful with names containing L slashdot.org/~AiphaWolf_HK slashdot.org/~AlphaWoif_HK slashdot.org/~AiphaWoif_HK
There is literally not a single part of Christianity that is violent.
Jesus beat the shit out of the moneychangers in the temple.
But really, you've fallen victim to the "no true scotsman" fallacy. Anyone who commits violence in the name of christianity isn't a christian. In my experience, the people who are willing to apply that standard to christianity aren't willing to apply that standard to any other religions.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
What is Slashdot's stance on overreacting to what is obviously a joke?
The Slashdot knee-jerk reaction that this criminal (yes, criminal, not suspect) deserved to be apprehended with no use of force is incorrect.
The criminal shot at and threw pipe bombs at the police as he was being pursued. He has a right to due process for the marathon bombings, but not for the crimes of shooting and bombing cops while being pursued (and the pursuit was justified, due to a preponderance of evidence against him for the marathon bombings). He was a clear and present danger during the pursuit and committed those crimes against the police while they were attempting to arrest him. If he wanted a guarantee of no violence to himself, like so many Slashdotters like you think he deserved, he should have not basically caused himself to be caught red-handed shooting at and bombing cops - he should have surrendered. But he did not do so.
This person is a suspect for the marathon bombings, but was a clear and present danger to the public and to the police during the pursuit, and the police would have been justified in using violence against him. Of course they didn't want to kill him, because they want to question him. But he did not deserve a no-violence arrest because of his actions during the arrest.
Seriously, they were throwing bombs at the police, on top of the gunfire, during the pursuit if the news is right on that count. That's clearly grounds for giving up your rights to a nonviolent arrest - you're actively trying to kill people!
Psychopaths like the Tsarnaev brothers, the Columbine killers, the 9/11 terrorists, the Koch brothers, etc. are either total predators like Tamerlan or Eric, with a bizarre interest in family hierarchy, a fascination with determining who is and isn't related to you, a desire for stirring religious hatred, and no altruism, empathy, or moral center to be found; they can also have only one allele like Dzhohar ("Johar", whatever), who was maybe an asshole with a superiority complex, but was also quiet about it. He was easygoing enough to form relationships with individuals in both allelic subpopulations, normal and psycho. They'll hang out with you and your other unsuspecting friends, smoke weed with you once a week just like normal Americans, etc. etc., but they'll also carry pressure cookers full of nails into dense crowds of strangers for you if they feel strongly related to you somehow.
The uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, looks like he's carrying normal alleles at this locus. He announced to a mob of reporters that he thought his older nephew was up to no good. He said that his nephew Jahar was a loser for doing what he did, announced he should turn himself in, and ask for forgiveness from the wider population of Boston. He said the brothers "brought shame on their family and upon the entire Chechen ethnicity." It might run in his family, but I don't think the uncle is as interested in seeing people run into trouble just for not being related to him.
Hopefully we decide not to waste another decade. This is not the time to go off fuming about how everyone in Chechnya is carrying this psychotic gene. Everybody there would be dead. Comfort with inhibiting the reproduction of people unrelated to you runs in families all around the world. It occurs in legislatures everywhere. It preserves itself by making you cause problems for people who don't have it. But it has to self-regulate in any wider human population, Chechnya or Boston or wherever, or it goes extinct along with the rest of the genome in the region.
Hopefully we won't see this as an excuse to waste another decade with more political 9/11-style bullshit against one particular religion or another. This was in the end a story of two bungling religious-minded psychotics, with a "mastermind", a "pushover with no conscience", and a shared comfort with mass-murdering a dense unrelated-looking crowd in a city far from home.