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Is Anonymous Going Mainstream Following Website Funding?
DavidGilbert99 writes "For a completely online movement, the lack of an official Anonymous website is certainly strange. The reason, according to Anonymous itself is down to the lack of a hierarchical structure. However, one Anonymous-linked group could be about to change all that, having succeeded in securing $55,000 in funding for a website. Is this the beginning of Anonymous going mainstream? From the article: 'The @YourAnonNews (YAN) Twitter account has over one million followers and has leveraged its popularity to successfully raise over $55,000 (£34,000) through a crowd-funding campaign on the Indiegogo website.
The funding drive was established to allow those behind the YAN account to set up a website of its own which will allow it "to collect breaking reports and blog postings from the best independent reporters online."'"
The idea of an official Anonymous anything is absurd.
And for an unofficial Anonymous site, there's 4chan.
Actually, calling themselves "Anonymous" and gathering funding now gives governments around the world - from Russia to Australia, from the US to Indonesia - the pretext to prosecute anybody posting anonymously online, as a conspirator and an accessory to... Well, darn near anything.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
Is it just me or does this seem like the dumbest idea ever, about as smart as an Al Qaeda cell setting up a plainly signed recruitment office next door to MI5's headquarters?
... it just happens to have other people's content on it sometimes.
The cybercrime division of the FBI is the very first subscriber, remarkably enough.
This is probably the most stupid thing I've ever seen in my life. And I used to go to church...
Exactly. I wish I'd thought of this way to make money too.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Do you really think that posting anonymously online reaches the standard of 'probable cause,' or even 'reasonable suspicion'? Because that's what they're going to need if they're going to prosecute them (in the US, Australia might have different standards).
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
An Anonymous website...the whole point is there can be no single website. This project is a bunch of posers, and it will be DoSed as soon as it goes up. In any case, 4chan is about as close to an Anonymous web site as is wanted, needed, or possible.
How long before some other "anons" decide to go against the YAN. This cannot and won't go mainstream as long as others use the same name. I wait for their twitter or website to be owned soon enough. the real anon's are /b/tards and do whatever they please. You cannot control or organize such a group. They are called /b/tards for a reason.
It seems as if someone organizes you into a relatively homogeneous group...
Exactly. I wish I'd thought of this way to make money too.
Yeah, it's great until some three letter agency breaks down your door at 3:00 am, shoots your dog, and has some questions for you...
Rather people pretending to associate with the organization and provide a public face for them. Surely this group of anonymous has nothing to do with the anonymous hackers. This little dilemma goes back to the definition of the word "anonymous".
using 'Anonymous Coward' as the name for the replacement anti-organization? :)
Anonymous went mainstream circa 2007. Anyone thinking anything different has no understanding of what is actually going on.
RUGBYRUGBYRUGBY
You don't need "probable cause" or even evidence, in "terrorism" cases, apparently.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
"That's excellent! Now that they're a legitimate public entity, they can be sued! That gets them out of criminal court, and into profit court err I mean civil court."
I can hear the excited clicking of Mont Blanc pens now...
Do you really think that posting anonymously online reaches the standard of 'probable cause,' or even 'reasonable suspicion'?
Yes.. What makes you think that it doesn't? We now have, and probably always did have, a 'public safety exception' to all constitutional law. Our facade of 'freedom' is really quite flimsy and crumbling fast.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
In a similar case somebody ran of with the server and donations:
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Why_We_Protest_Forums#11.2F29.2F08_The_Day_Enturb_Stood_Still
Yeah, it's great until some three letter agency breaks down your door at 3:00 am, shoots your dog, and has some questions for you...
Doesn't this normally happen to the people who live a house or two away from the house they are trying to target?
I headdesked when I read it up to "official Anonymous website".
That guy claimed MY money, check my username - I'd go and sue him for that but I don't have enough guts for this :(
Hi. I am a 28 year old male that frequently reads these forums over the past several years. I generally use them to gauge popular perception on certain topics, and to find competing viewpoints to popular problems (nerds love to make each other look stupid/disprove each other/demonstrate topical intellectual superiority). I have come across your post a few times, and it is very disconcerting to see the sort of writing style you introduce as it is a very harsh contrast to the "normal" -- which goes even for non-native English speakers. I spent at least five minutes reading links and supporting evidence for "127.0.0.1" not being as efficient as "0". The amount of fervor you utilize to make this point comes off to me (and perhaps an explanation for you, many others that you refer to as trolls) as insanity. You seem to imply there is an unexplained, even conspiratorial effort at Microsoft for sabotaging your preferred host file entry method. You also seem to think you have a reputation which is at stake, and I assure you, aside from your raving posts, I have never heard of you before. The time-cube APK imposter you mention appears to be (at least to me) an adequate parody of your abrasive writing and argument style. The fact that you seem to take such excessive offense to this parody further strengthens the lehman's perception of your insanity. I suspect I am representative of a much larger sample in this regard, but you may consider me to be one additional data point.
Anyone who thinks that this represents or is backed by the core activists who are part of the collective is, well.. a fool parted with their money.
It would paint a massive bulls-eye target on anyone associated with it, pretty much saying "here I am, come get me!".
-SS "Teach the ignorant, care for the dumb, and punish the stupid."
Perhaps your "freedom" is crumbling fast because you decided to treat it as a facade and leave it exposed to the elements that weathered it into it's crumbling status. I, however, chose to take my "freedom" and protect in a fortress that I like to call "the law". I have found this to be the best way to actually "preserve" my "freedom". If our freedom didn't need such protection, we would not have any need for the law in the first place.
so many of the posts will be signed with anonymous coward
My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
Yes, yes you do.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
the wi-fi is free, but your disk gets examined on the Tors.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
i thought they already had one called 4chan...
Yes, yes you do.
You need it, but law enforcement agencies often do not bother getting it.
You need it, but law enforcement agencies often do not bother getting it.
What case are you even talking about? It's pointless to arrest someone without getting it because the case will get thrown out of court.
The bar for 'reasonable suspicion' is really low, but even then it's above 'commented anonymously online.' You need to get your conspiracy theory hat off.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
+1
He certainly does read as either a complex spambot who's doing an awful lot of linkfarming, a very peculiar troll, or a total nutjob, i tend to believe the latter least.
Ever think you're getting modded down because you're an asshole?
I've started clicking the flag button to report that guy's ass on every post, hoping that Slashdot admins eventually ban this guy's ass for repeated spamming, but that doesn't seem to work. I bet if everyone who sees that spam post reports it that eventually they will do something about it.
I can set them up with a wordpress site for free!
(I would think they know how to 'secure it', hardy har har)
Someone on 4chan said it best: "Anyone claiming to represent anon is not anon."
The cow says "Moo." The dog says "Woof." The Timothy says "Thanks, valued customer. We appreciate your input."
Are you really the person behind the "host file" spam?
Spam Example
See my journal for slashdot ID's by year. Mine created in 2005. http://slashdot.org/journal/289875/slashdot-ids-by-year
Of course not.
I "elevated" one, once, under my UID with copy and paste. Why?
It was modded below visibility - and a CLEAR, HYSTERICAL PARODY that included about 5-7 running slashdot jokes.
Now. Let's get back to the topic: The end of liberty, freedom, due process and rule of law in the USA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l07cvZAn0L8
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
DDoS It Like It's Hot
Interesting isn't it? How ineffectual the DDoS is, incapable of actually stopping anything from happening for any length of time. It only raises awareness. The hive needs information outlets (many of them, because: why not?), and all are just as "official" as the others, yet it will freely fling its own "weapons" at itself, knowing it can not truly harm the body -- like an anemone immune to its own poison. It's merely communicating with itself.
The DDoS has become only a way to make a proportion of disapproval known through exerting sheer evidence of the existence of differing ideas. Like an arched cat walking sideways, or a Lion's thundering roar, it serves only to intimidate, provide proof of their presence, and in the hive's case, perhaps spark discussion. Since it takes energy to continue in a strong enough capacity to affect any real change this discord will fade into the mass of other chaotic signals as the dissenters grow bored, the protested cease action, the DDoSed get more support in the form of more traffic and bigger pipes, or the conflict of wills is resolved.
As one who studies and applies a wide range of systems from genetic algorithms to neural networks in accordance with information theory and a host of other sciences it's interesting to me how self organizing forms emerge and evolve. Humans are a hive-mind themselves: Their complex genetic programs dispatch chemical signals from the nucleus of each cell causing the cells to perform a multitude of actions, some more specialized for a task than others, from livers to bones to white blood cells, to neurons, or egg and sperm; These collectives have reached a sufficient level of complexity in interaction between the cells to give rise to minds where thoughts themselves dwell as echoes of electro-chemical currents, and the humans have themselves began interacting in such complex ways with thoughts that they can form meta structures too. This generation of humans being more capable of connecting and communicating ideas directly than any other in history rushes faster still toward the next phase of macro organization and awareness: They themselves are becoming merely cells forming the loose structure of yet a larger organisms made of like-minded thoughts...
Corporations and governments are similar meta structures in some ways, but these are the product of intelligent design. What we have here is the natural emergence of a species of organizational amoeba -- A slime-mold-like entity capable of dispersing and regrouping instantly, one that needs no constant influx of energy to survive because it thrives by being completely abandoned husk of dormant ideas that surges to life in sections at a time when the larger cultural system senses the need or opportunity to put forth the pressure of those ideals to the other meta structural entities.
If you study life as a system of information, what's going on here is clear. I will stop now, however, because if I continue it may also become clear to others how to end such an organisms' life before it truly has a chance to begin. Have no fear though, if the design or configuration is unfit death is optimal. Look at yourself though -- Little amoebas running around in your blood, born from within the relatively static bone structure -- And these are your best defense against invaders who would hijack your very cells and turn them against you. The configuration of Anonymous may or may not survive, but the useful structures will be preserved in future generations. Humans can serve as host cells for more than one intangible thought system.
"All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again."
-- J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan
"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again."
-- Six, Battlestar Galactica
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"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
We now have, and probably always did have, a 'public safety exception' to all constitutional law.
Tell me that when his testimony is allowed as evidence in court.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Even the filmer sounded tired in that movie.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
I believe you just posted the first comment ever which was ever voted to +5 insightful, whose only contribution to the discussion is a quote from "someone on 4chan".
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of LOIC attacks from anonymous.
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