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Linux 3.9 Released
hypnosec writes "After a week's delay Linux 3.9 has finally been made available by Linus Torvalds. Last week Torvalds released the rc8 stating that he wasn't 'comfy' releasing the final version yet and that 'another week won't hurt.' Torvalds noted in this week's announcement that last week had been very quiet as there were not many commits and the ones which were there were 'really tiny' so he went ahead with the release of Linux 3.9."
Catch up to Windows already !!
Time to finally upgrade those old 3.8 production servers.
and I am running it, and as I was 3.8, and all those predecessors. So what ?
it's not in TFS, not in TFA... what's new in 3.9?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
This seems more like it belongs on the DailyWTF
Anyway. Whatever the reason, this week has been very quiet, which
makes me much more comfortable doing the final 3.9 release, so I guess
the last -rc8 ended up working.
I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
You have no real idea unless you read the release notes in depth whether 3.8 to 3.9 is a big change or just a bunch of relatively small incremental changes and bug fixes and Linus just fancied upping the minor version number.
Among other things 3.9 includes experimental kernel-level Raid 5 and 6, caching slow of storage devices by fast ones, support for more graphics cards and audio devices, as well as improved power management.
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/What-s-new-in-Linux-3-9-1845705.html
09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
KernelNewbies isn't reachable at this time so a nice review of cool new features in Linux 3.9 is available at The H Open.
Live long and propser!
No, just kidding.
Glad I could help:
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/What-s-new-in-Linux-3-9-1845705.html
I have an 80GB SSD and a 500GB HDD and I want to use the SSD as dog intended, as a cache for the HDD. bcache is in 3.9, that's great news. it will be mainline in 3.10, that's even better, because it means distributions will support it.
Does it still require reformatting all your volumes? That was lame.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Been waiting for that in linux for a while.
This version includes my patches for large HOSTS file support. Previously, the kernel used a fixed buffer size for the HOSTS file entries. relatively largeish (1 million+ entries) overflowed it and entries were dropped. 3.9 will dynamically resize (zero-copy algorithm) so the Linux KERNEL now officially has the best HOSTS file support anywhere.
But, why does anyone care?
a kernel hacked together by minions with Linus as gatekeeper + plus a bunch of userland software scrounged up and cobbled together to give the illusion of an "Operating System" :-)
Thanks for the link. I chased down the dm-cache stuff a bit, looking at it vs. bcache, which we'll see in June, probably. The primary differences seem to be that dm-cache is a bit more generic and easier to work with and it allows some manual allocation of the different types of disk data to be cached, while bcache seems to be targeting SSD's specifically, with wear-leveling sensitive write patterns, use of TRIM, and in-kernel code to validate the cache drives for preventing stupid user tricks.
EnhanceIO might also be targeting 3.10, which is a descendant of flashcache, which uses the layered device approach, while dm-cache and bcache are side-loaded. EnhanceIO uses udev rather than in-kernel code to prevent the stupid user tricks. I got the sense that 3.10 was possible for EnhanceIO but not as certain as bcache.
I'm current using flashcache on my non-ZFS systems; it looks like I'll be waiting for 3.10 and use bcache for my next upgrade.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
...and counting down 3... 2... 1...
"... then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win" Mahatma Gandhi -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3674733&cid=43530007
* Funny how exactly THAT which is in that quote above happens, every single time you "funny trolls" (you're idiots) try it, now isn't it? That link above shows NO different... a "lose" for you ac trolls yet again vs. myself!
(Absolutely... makes ME laugh, the hardest, just like in that link above - especially since "the best you've got" is your "humor" but the biggest humor is watching you fools screwup like in that link above!)
APK
P.S.=> By the way, & for "posterities' sake": Linux, afaik @ least, NEVER HAS HAD ANY ISSUES WITH LARGE HOSTS FILES - at least the last version I seriously used, in KUbuntu 10.04 in the summer of 2010 while I was touring europe... only Windows does IF you leave the faulty fixed-size local dns caching client service active (with larger hosts files).
... apk
But what exactly does this means for my new smartphone? Yes, trolling, but on a serious note, 'linux' dominance is mostly smartphones. The year of (Desktop) Linux never came.
Am just wondering - once Linus is ready w/ the next version, what will he call it? 4.0? Or will he follow the Qt/KDE example and call it 3.10?
It'd be nice if they'd build in the patch for bugs like this, which have gone on in multiple distro kernels for years: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/578506?comments=all
I didn't think the house band in Hell would play this badly.
His email says 3.10.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
That "the best you got"'s a bogus moddown of my post http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43581479 and, nothing more (since I crushed you on the topic you bring up now 4x already this week).
Which was a post of mine that showed us ALL that you obviously didn't like looking stupid as you did there and being exposed in it ac troll - hence, your effete & computing technically unjustifiable downmod of my post.
(However, perhaps MORE IMPORTANTLY, the link inside the link above that gives the details of your blatant technical screwups on this subject, here -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3674733&cid=43530007 ).
* Now, you *may* think you're funny, however again:
Yes, trolls - I truly DO "get the last laugh" per that 2nd link above, where you showed us NUMEROUS EXAMPLES of your screwups this past week or two (on the subject of hosts files & caching their data which you brought up!), and trust me - your WEAK tech skills did and still DO make me laugh, large!
APK
P.S.=> As far as your "upward moderation"? Puh-LEESE: Give us a break - That's not a "big trick" when you have multiple registered 'luser' accounts here now is it? Nope!
However, I must thank you!
For good measure, good manners & yes, a touch of "gloating" too since I GET THAT "LAST LAUGH" HERE, seeing as you're reduced to computing technically unjustifiable downmods...
Lastly, as per your usual?
You can't disprove points I made... you, FAIL, ac troll!
(As always vs. myself on this & other subjects in computing (and you know it, I KNOW IT, & anyone with 1/2 a brain reading here does also now) & yes additionally - THANK YOU, for making ME look GOOD, & yourself, "not so good".
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Now, you DO know that you're just making me HAVE TO SAY IT, don't you? Of course you do - thus, I just have to as-is-per-my-own "inimitable style":
THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, vs. mindless "funny ac trolls", every single time as shown above (5x or more this week alone on this very topic no less)...
... apk
It will continue to be done as it has always been done. Ergo, it will be 3.10
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
An over-the-top subject line no doubt, but as a Linux (LMDE) home user, I am a little concerned about this wonderful OS ecology apparently in just one Torvalds-shaped basket. It seems odd to me that this experience - where community involvement is so beneficial - has a single person that has total thumbs up / thumbs down power.
Yes, this is mostly Linus' baby, but assuming he's not immortal, how much planning is going into the inevitable transition? History is littered with examples of rapid decline / fall / outright war (aka forking) after the strong, hands-on founder is gone. I don't want something as precious as Linux to be destroyed in interneciene BS as that is just what its many enemies desire and will outright foment.
"Jesus, what kind of disgusting gay porn sites do you visit?" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 29, 2013 @01:28PM (#43582323)
See my subject-line above, & to answer you? I don't, thanks to what I created shown below & my 15++ reputable & reliable sources for custom hosts file data (that it imports-deduplicates/normalizes, converts for faster/smaller blocking addresses, & sorts).
That, combined with 15++ yrs. of effort of my own in researching security articles OR finding those bogus sites myself also & adding them to my custom hosts file, or firewall rules tables (IF/WHEN IP address based, the least used due to "fastflux" designed botnets MOSTLY being out there now...).
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"You have almost 2 million malware/ad entries in your hosts file?" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 29, 2013 @01:28PM (#43582323)
1,971,340++ as of 7 a.m. this morning to be precise!
A.) The top "block" is 20 of my FAVORITE sites I hardcoded into it for both speed, & reliability (vs. dns failings mostly in security here, but also since querying a local in memory cached host is faster than calling out to remote DNS too - where favs @ the top beat indexing even up to 2 million++ entries!)
B.) The lower rest of them are BLOCKED (not meant to be gotten to, this is a security portion along with hardcodes helping against downed or redirect poisoned dns & it is EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE vs. modern botnet designs (ala "fastflux" I noted above)).
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"You have a problem." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 29, 2013 @01:28PM (#43582323)
Actually, NO, I don't... & especially since I made creating such a custom hosts file a snap & gui easy, thus:
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APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74
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HOWEVER. lol, but YOU DO HAVE A PROBLEM (and more than 1, noted in my 'p.s.' below) - in that you can't disprove my points, & thus/again: YOU FAIL, & you know it, I know it, + so does anyone else reading here as well, because of that.
APK
P.S.=>
"P.S. Please stop with the incoherent ranting." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 29, 2013 @01:28PM (#43582323)
1.) Please DO try to disprove my points on what custom hosts files give you in added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request loggings) listed in the link to my program above (good luck - NOBODY ever has or will)
2.) Please QUIT "projecting" your own "StRaNgE-TaSTeS" in where YOU like to go online (lmao - hey, after all: YOU said it, projecting your own "phatasies", lol!).
3.) Please *TRY* to be on topic - even though your hosts post is NOT on topic!
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Yes, I know - Those 3 suggestions I made to you would be a HUGE effort for the 'trolling off topic likes of you' & especially after you've been utterly "blown away" by yours truly on the tech of this - but do TRY!
... apk
What makes you think this is a kernel bug? It looks like removing the battery and putting it back in solves the issue, so this is more likely an error in the ACPI DSDT of the laptop.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
"I have a problem" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 29, 2013 @02:31PM (#43583283)
You do: 1st - Reading's "beyond you" + correct use of hosts http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3674733&cid=43530007 since you've "blown it" like what? 5x or more THIS WEEK ALONE on this subject?
So - Yes, for once, you're correct: Your problem's that you are WEAK in technical aspects of computing in this area, and of course, that you're a worthless troll that is unable to find error in my points on hosts, disproving them... lol!
It's as simple as that.
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You're also the FOOL that posts on hosts where it isn't correct OR doesn't apply (in some stupid attempt to 'troll me', or to *try* to 'discredit me' - grow up: Crap like that doesn't work vs. facts & truth!).
This only tells me that I have torn you & "yours" up, SO MANY TIMES on this subject, just like in the link above... lol, that you're reduced to your "humor"... you fail that too.
(ME? Hey - I only post on hosts where they apply to help users for more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent when it applies to that article's material, unlike your trollings here...).
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What makes me laugh the MOST?
Well, that is THAT link I posted above happened when idiots like yourself *tried* vainly "impersonating me", by posting partial posts of mine concatenated into HUGE single ones to annoy others (or just full of 'gibberish' & your ac posts only as links)
OR
To TRY to 'discredit' myself as a "spammer"... you failed that too - see link above.
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LMAO: Funniest part about that link above?
* YOU anonymous trolls did that only to get caught in the act, like Jeremiah Cornelius did here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581857&cid=43276741 mistakenly submitting that under his "REGISTERED 'LUSER'" name, instead of his 100's of anonymous coward submissions he did before that for the past 2-3 months & more now... pitiful.
(I mean, not only did that fool get FIRED @ MICROSOFT, but he can't even TROLL right, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Go away troll. Your BIGGEST problem, is this:
Your TOTALLY "anonymous coward" puny "trolling posts", just like you're doing here now, merely only shows us you failed in life too!
(Since you've nothing better to do with yourself than 'trolling' (the province of the online and yes offline weasel & loser))...
You know, I truly DO wonder though: How many times have you had your blocked knocked off for being that way in the REAL world?
If it hasn't happened yet, trust me: It will - that is, of course, assuming it hasn't happened already & you do it online to "relieve yourself" of your weasel urges - try "Satan, GET THEE BEHIND ME" instead, ok?
Yes... only a matter of time, assuming you aren't SO much of a weasel, you don't DARE it in the real world (my guess is you don't)!
Probably be good for you too - to learn you shouldn't mess with your betters!
... apk
"1st they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you, and then you win" Mahatma Gandhi & this initial post of mine you tried to "hide" vainly that exposed your NUMEROUS screwups technically on the subject YOU brought up here off topic (trying to be a nuisance again) -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43581479
* You FAILED on all accounts here... & earlier this week, here especially -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3674733&cid=43530007
( & you know it, I know it, + so does anyone else reading this exchange!)
APK
P.S.=> Since you see fit to dispense advice after your FAILS above? Here's some for you:
"take a chill pill d00d." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 29, 2013 @04:04PM (#43584321)
Take your own advice troll, & instead, learn more on this subject!
(Especially since your initial ac troll post rated "funny" only let ME have "the last laugh" here, & especially per that 2nd lower link above where the "tech details" for it are - & your 1st troll posts' INCORRECT on Linux info. you posted there too per my statement there in my 'p.s.' termination).
Your complete FAIL here shows you NEED to, badly!
Try instead to do something productive with your time that helps others out on NUMEROUS fronts for better online speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent... Like I have here -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74
That's more useful than your 'trolling' others like the punk you're showing us all you truly are... apk
You blew it & tried "hiding it" via unjustifiable downmods -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43582011
Just like you tried vainly + effetely hiding my initial post here with its quote from Gandhi -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43581479
Oh, I can see why & ESPECIALLY on that 2nd link (though it's HARD for me to "channel my inner criminal" for trolls like you since I am NOT like you):
That post showed your fail on the topic YOU brought up here in hosts showed you are completely off topic & in blatant error for Linux too, & the details were here on EXACTLY HOW & WHY You FAIL for Windows also -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3674733&cid=43530007 & how many times this week alone? 6 now??
* Accept 1 thing, trolling little worm - I'm NOT going to let you do your effete unjustifiable downmods to "try hide your fail" (which MOST here will see it anyhow since most here browse beneath the stupid default), & again:
YES - I'm having that "last laugh" @ YOUR expense now, funny guy that you are! What I found 'funny' about your post is how easy it is the blow you away & make you appear as stupid as you TRULY, are, lol!
APK
P.S.=> YOU & all those LIKE you? Always FAIL - why??
You're worms - I can't put it any plainer than that! Then again, you know that & your bogus "trolling" proves it all the more not only to myself, but also to others here reading, and perhaps MOSTLY to yourself (and, you know it).
YOU exemplify what I call "not men", lol... no 'small wonder' you post as ac too (and yet you apply downmods from your registered 'luser' account afterwards? Easy enough to do: LOGOUT of your account so its tracking cookie is saved in state, then troll by ac, and relogon to your "registered 'luser'" account afterwards to apply downmods - real "genius" that (not)).
... apk
Replying to both the sibling posts above, shouldn't he then have revs that went 3.01, 3.02....3.10, 3.11.....3.99 and then 4.01...?
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Sounds like YOU getting that done to you since you "project" your "StRaNgE-PhaNtaSieS" as you have obviously, lol!
NOW: As to your 'proposal' (lol): Not interested here @ ALL/whatsoever/NO thank you: I fly 'straight' if you catch my drift, lmao...
FACT - I already shoved your b.s. RIGHT back up your 'back door' fool, & 1st here, easily-> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43582011
Truth is, I bet you even LIKED it when I did, when considering how MUCH you "project" (on your "odd ideas" & "TaSteS"), lmao..
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Seems you're also sado-masochistic for *trying* me yet again on this topic too & being "nuked" by "yours truly" on it, once again!
Well, then you lucked out & you got WHIPPED, just like you like, too...
HEY - "bonus" (lol or should I spell it "bone ass" for you since you seem to be "of that bent/ilk", lol...).
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By the way - I'd let those you speak of wipe MY A$$ with their hosts file & then, watch them eat it since they'd have to (as always vs. myself on this topic & others).
That's right & know what ELSE? Hey, I wager STRONGLY that they'd LOVE it too, lol... especially since they're just like you no doubt as you project that much!
Since you "ac trolls" that bug me about hosts files (avoiding facts or challenges I put your way nowadays since you failed too many times already on that note vs. myself), are REAL masochists!
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I mean, apparently, you & "yours" troll (JC by ac posts tried "impersonating me" on this even http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581857&cid=43276741 ) LIKE taking a beating!
(You cause it for yourselves - again, I suspect you like it)
Then again - you "hide" as unidentifiable ac posts too (proving you don't like it).
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So - that "all said & aside":
I'd "do unto others", just as YOU LIKE (lol), & just as you want them to do that to ME with (best be printed on sharmin though)...
Now, if YOU'RE LUCKY, & I bet YOU ARE HERE ESPECIALLY IN THAT "AREA", rotflmao?
I'd order them to "toss your salad"! LMAO - especially since you like that apparently, via your 'projecting' what "flavor you like" (hahahahaha).
We do understand though - you TRY to be "into computers", I understand that, however since you are like you are & I see it coming thru in your projecting?
You'll appreciate this: Seems You NEED "INPUT" (lol, we KNOW what kind too, lololol).
LMAO - Listen, face it: Those who would *try* what you state & wish on me? Hey - THEY WOULD END UP BEING MY "buttlers" or rather, lol, yours (rotflmao... completely)
As that's all they'd deserve!
Especially what with your "well wishing" & what-not I just replied to, with me NOT ACCEPTING your 'gracious offer', lol (or, IS it "projecting" your own 'weird desires' as I suspect? LOL) towards myself.
APK
P.S.=> Quit "projecting" your rather homosexual "innuendos" my way, ok? Go find another dish - I am NOT on "the menu", troll... apk
That would only make sense if the . was a decimal. The dot signifies the break between the major version and the minor version, not parts of whole numbers.
Torvalds is an arrogant control freak who thinks he knows best when it comes to kernel design. The reality is very far from this as Linus has ignored continual flaws in his beloved kernel for years. He may be pope of the Linux kernel but he has no influence over distro developers and their unstructured implementation of GNU userland & third party apps. GNU/Linux has become a chaotic mess because of its fragmentation and lack of proper integration.