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Linux 3.9 Released
hypnosec writes "After a week's delay Linux 3.9 has finally been made available by Linus Torvalds. Last week Torvalds released the rc8 stating that he wasn't 'comfy' releasing the final version yet and that 'another week won't hurt.' Torvalds noted in this week's announcement that last week had been very quiet as there were not many commits and the ones which were there were 'really tiny' so he went ahead with the release of Linux 3.9."
it's not in TFS, not in TFA... what's new in 3.9?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Catch up to Windows already !!
Only if you count 1, 2, 3.0, 3.1, 95, 98, 3.1, 3.5, 4, 2000, XP, vista, 7, 8
You have no real idea unless you read the release notes in depth whether 3.8 to 3.9 is a big change or just a bunch of relatively small incremental changes and bug fixes and Linus just fancied upping the minor version number.
Well that's how the progress bar counts so I don't see why it shouldn't be valid for everything else.
1... 2... many... 98%... 5... done
Among other things 3.9 includes experimental kernel-level Raid 5 and 6, caching slow of storage devices by fast ones, support for more graphics cards and audio devices, as well as improved power management.
What's wrong with that? That's how release candidates are supposed to work. You already do all your testing before the first rc. After releasing an rc you wait for anyone downstream to report problems. If there are no reports then that your final stage of QA is done and you accept the candidate.
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/What-s-new-in-Linux-3-9-1845705.html
09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
KernelNewbies isn't reachable at this time so a nice review of cool new features in Linux 3.9 is available at The H Open.
Live long and propser!
No, just kidding.
I have an 80GB SSD and a 500GB HDD and I want to use the SSD as dog intended, as a cache for the HDD. bcache is in 3.9, that's great news. it will be mainline in 3.10, that's even better, because it means distributions will support it.
Does it still require reformatting all your volumes? That was lame.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Been waiting for that in linux for a while.
This version includes my patches for large HOSTS file support. Previously, the kernel used a fixed buffer size for the HOSTS file entries. relatively largeish (1 million+ entries) overflowed it and entries were dropped. 3.9 will dynamically resize (zero-copy algorithm) so the Linux KERNEL now officially has the best HOSTS file support anywhere.
You omitted the most epic part of the Windows family: Windows ME!
Actually Windows NT kernel is only on 6.2, not 8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_NT
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
Thanks for the link. I chased down the dm-cache stuff a bit, looking at it vs. bcache, which we'll see in June, probably. The primary differences seem to be that dm-cache is a bit more generic and easier to work with and it allows some manual allocation of the different types of disk data to be cached, while bcache seems to be targeting SSD's specifically, with wear-leveling sensitive write patterns, use of TRIM, and in-kernel code to validate the cache drives for preventing stupid user tricks.
EnhanceIO might also be targeting 3.10, which is a descendant of flashcache, which uses the layered device approach, while dm-cache and bcache are side-loaded. EnhanceIO uses udev rather than in-kernel code to prevent the stupid user tricks. I got the sense that 3.10 was possible for EnhanceIO but not as certain as bcache.
I'm current using flashcache on my non-ZFS systems; it looks like I'll be waiting for 3.10 and use bcache for my next upgrade.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
What I was saying was that there is a world of difference between a wishy-washy statement of "I guess" and an explicit "I believe".
Firstly, when it comes to kernel testing, no news is usually good news. But it's never a sure thing, and it's hard for one person to test it all.
Second, the newest kernel release is usually considered "bleeding edge", at least as far as enterprise goes. It's never a sure thing. Implying it's a sure thing and will for sure not catch your datacenter on fire is probably a Bad Idea.
Thirdly, who cares if Linus says "guess" or "believe". Both translate to exactly the same thing to me, given the context: "I'm pretty sure this is ok, but don't use this until you've backed up your important cat pictures." It's well known he's a bit bunt. Shit man, just be happy he didn't insult your mother in the header.
What about Bob?
Im SAILING!!!!!
There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
Am just wondering - once Linus is ready w/ the next version, what will he call it? 4.0? Or will he follow the Qt/KDE example and call it 3.10?
I really don't know what you expect. The only time I'd expect him to say "Upgrade NOW!" is if there were something very wrong with the prior release.
Perhaps you've been too immersed in advertisements, so that anything that isn't an ad doesn't sound right? I've NEVER been totally comfortable about any program I've written, and the things I write are small pieces compared to a kernel.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
It'd be nice if they'd build in the patch for bugs like this, which have gone on in multiple distro kernels for years: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/578506?comments=all
I didn't think the house band in Hell would play this badly.
His email says 3.10.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
That android developers can run Goldfish with a native kernel to simulate a virtual Android device and thus write apps a little bit easier?
It will continue to be done as it has always been done. Ergo, it will be 3.10
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
An over-the-top subject line no doubt, but as a Linux (LMDE) home user, I am a little concerned about this wonderful OS ecology apparently in just one Torvalds-shaped basket. It seems odd to me that this experience - where community involvement is so beneficial - has a single person that has total thumbs up / thumbs down power.
Yes, this is mostly Linus' baby, but assuming he's not immortal, how much planning is going into the inevitable transition? History is littered with examples of rapid decline / fall / outright war (aka forking) after the strong, hands-on founder is gone. I don't want something as precious as Linux to be destroyed in interneciene BS as that is just what its many enemies desire and will outright foment.
What makes you think this is a kernel bug? It looks like removing the battery and putting it back in solves the issue, so this is more likely an error in the ACPI DSDT of the laptop.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Replying to both the sibling posts above, shouldn't he then have revs that went 3.01, 3.02....3.10, 3.11.....3.99 and then 4.01...?
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Shit man, just be happy he didn't insult your mother in the header.
My mother is a cat picture you insensitive clod.
That would only make sense if the . was a decimal. The dot signifies the break between the major version and the minor version, not parts of whole numbers.
Torvalds is an arrogant control freak who thinks he knows best when it comes to kernel design. The reality is very far from this as Linus has ignored continual flaws in his beloved kernel for years. He may be pope of the Linux kernel but he has no influence over distro developers and their unstructured implementation of GNU userland & third party apps. GNU/Linux has become a chaotic mess because of its fragmentation and lack of proper integration.