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John McAfee's Belize Home Burns To Ground

Velcroman1 writes "The former island home of anti-virus software pioneer John McAfee burned down Thursday afternoon under circumstance he told FoxNews.com were 'suspicious.' It's an odd choice of words from a man whom the Belize police found suspicious, following the November 2012 murder of American expatriate Gregory Faull, a well-liked builder from Florida who was shot at his home in San Pedro Town on the island of Ambergris Caye. 'I believe that there are a select few with great power in Belize that will go to great lengths to harm me,' McAfee said. 'This fire was not just a strange coincidence.'" Watch for more from McAfee soon.

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  1. Watch for more from McAfee soon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about no?

    1. Re:Watch for more from McAfee soon. by lxs · · Score: 3, Informative

      Come on! I'm making popcorn.

    2. Re:Watch for more from McAfee soon. by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Informative

      Watch me get hate for even saying it but I'm tired of so many making him out to be a hero when all he is is a junkie that skipped out on a murder charge.

      I mean lets just look at what we know to be facts, FACT 1- he bragged about doing a highly dangerous drug in large quantities (bath salts) that is known to cause paranoia, violence, and feelings of persecution. FACT 2- He also bragged about his rather large gun collection and was known to often carry guns on his person, FACT 3- The ONLY person that they reported having any beef with the deceased was McAfee, with them getting into several heated arguments about all the shit going on at his compound...now if YOU were running the police, who would be YOUR prime suspect in this case?

      We are talking about a guy that is a proven and known liar, who in his Q&A with Slashdot talked about how he had been "clean and sober for 15 years" when his own blogs from 6 months before the incident were filled with his rantings about how bath salts gave him massive boners that allowed him to keep up with the 16 year olds he was banging at the compound. We are also talking about a guy that paid others to dress and act like him when the cops were looking for a suspect in a murder case that was known to have firearms and thus could have easily gotten one of them killed...this is NOT a nice guy folks, its really not.

      People seem to forget there is a family that now mourns and the only real suspect the police had obstructed an investigation and skipped town. Would anybody be cheering this guy if the man he was accused of killing was on US soil at the time? would anybody be cheering if it was the opposite and a man in the USA had been murdered and he skipped to Belize?

      When you break it down the sad and ugly truth is a lot of the arguments for this guy end up coming down to racism and nationalism, like any crime that happens in South America "doesn't count" because they can't be trusted to run even a single murder investigation and they MUST be corrupt, which if that were true being rich would have given him MORE of an advantage as he could have just bought them off. The whole thing just stinks and with pricks like this running around and people cheering this sociopath you can see where the phrase "Ugly American" comes from, I just wish more people had as much feeling for the dead guy as they show for this douchebag.

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  2. Yeah, its not a coincidence by davmoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd be willing to bet that McAfee had it burnt down himself to add to his story and keep his name in the press.

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    1. Re:Yeah, its not a coincidence by kasperd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We can be almost certain, it was no coincidence. But at this point any statements about who was behind it is nothing more than speculation. Perhaps we'll never know for sure.

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    2. Re: Yeah, its not a coincidence by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're going to make meth, it's advised to not use the "shake-n-bake" process as It's been known to burn down buildings. Just sayin.

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    3. Re:Yeah, its not a coincidence by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      So what is the benefit to keeping his name in the press?

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    4. Re:Yeah, its not a coincidence by houghi · · Score: 2

      1) Do something
      2) Keep your name in the press
      3) ???
      4) Profit

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    5. Re:Yeah, its not a coincidence by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Nah, I've been to Belize. There's no government (i.e. no fire department and no building codes) to speak of, so pretty much any house fire is going to be a "burn to the ground" situation.

      To be quite frank, I'm surprised more people there don't die turning on the lights.

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  3. Never rely 100% on your anti-virus software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    John McAfee of all people should know that you should never rely 100% on your anti-virus software.

    He should have installed a firewall ...

  4. I put on my robe and wizard hat. by MRe_nl · · Score: 2, Funny

    'I believe that there are a select few with great power in Belize that will go to great lengths to harm me', McAfee said. 'This fire was not just a strange coincidence'.
    'Somebody's cast a high level Firewall'.

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  5. Probably robbery. by ruir · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would not be surprised if the "suspicious" fire isnt just a cover up for the theft of the insides of the home. It is a standard procedure, even body officials do it all the time in 3rd countries like for instance a "fire" in the arms deposits to cover up traffic of weapons. meh

  6. Re:what mcafee is good for: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    McAfee might be paranoid for no reason.

    However, governments are well known for their targeting certain groups and individuals for persecution or extortion so a bit of paranoia can be a good thing.

  7. Re:what mcafee is good for: by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    BBC did a viddy on this in 1992.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AUvrPvV-KQo

    Just paranoid, bullshit? Sponsored by the CIA and British intelligence, NATO operatives - under the false-front, operating as a "Marxist Terror Gang" kidnapped and murdered the Prime Minister of Italy in 1978.

    This was just a single instance of organized para-national political violence including strings of European bombings and assassinations, beginning in the 1940's and continuing at least into the 1990's.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

    Then, after the cold war, there are no longer "Marxist Terror Gangs". They all just gave up and went home, I guess. Now, there are "Muslim Terror Gangs". Amazing.

    PS. Don't look too closely at the Balkans.

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  8. Strange... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Checked again: though my system says Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, I still see "McAfee" everywhere...

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  9. Soap opera! by cplusplus · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is the first soap opera that I've ever followed. This guy's life is so weird and his ramblings are so amusing that I find myself looking forward to each new episode. Wait, this is real? :-)

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  10. Re:what mcafee is good for: by maugle · · Score: 2

    Then, after the cold war, there are no longer "Marxist Terror Gangs". They all just gave up and went home, I guess.

    They're still around, just not in Europe anymore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_India_(Maoist)

  11. Who the fuck cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, does anybody give a shit about McAfee's little world?

  12. Re:what mcafee is good for: by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Clearly, you've never spent much time out of the U.S. If you've never been pulled over by police in a hispanic country for being white, and threatened with jail time for no crime if you didn't bribe them away, you can't talk about conspiracies or paranoia.

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  13. Re:what mcafee is good for: by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you've never been pulled over by police in a hispanic country for being white, and threatened with jail time for no crime if you didn't bribe them away, you can't talk about conspiracies or paranoia.

    I'm afraid this kind of talk isn't permitted on Slashdot.

    It doesn't matter how much of a corrupt, despotic, oppressive hell-hole free of the rule of law you're talking about, according the rules of Slashdot the USA is ALWAYS worse than any other region or nation on the planet. ALWAYS. Once you understand that, browsing Slashdot will be much easier.

    And no, I'm not American and I don't live in the USA.

  14. Why is it odd? by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's an odd choice of words from a man whom the Belize police found suspicious

    Police try to frame MCaffe, he escapes.

    Next best thing - burn down his house.

    I failed to see why this does not greatly support his narrative of what happened. He's not even there to burn it down himself...

    I mean, lets say a corrupt government was after you. Why do you think it unlikely they would burn down your house after you crossed them?

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    1. Re:Why is it odd? by ultranova · · Score: 2

      Police try to frame MCaffe, he escapes.

      Proof? Because the competing narrative - police very reasonably includes McAfee in the list of suspects, and he's a paranoid nut from all the bath salts he's been doing, and possibly guilty, so he escapes - is actually simpler. It doesn't require us to assume corruption, government conspiracies, unknown assailants, or any other factoids we don't already know; it fits right in with all known facts.

      Next best thing - burn down his house.

      As opposed to simply seizing it as a criminal asset and selling it to the highest bidder, therefore depriving McAfee of it and lining their pockets?

      I failed to see why this does not greatly support his narrative of what happened. He's not even there to burn it down himself...

      Because houses occasionally catch fire even without any intervention from anyone, and even if they didn't, the murder victim presumably had friends who are not likely to like Mr. McAfee very much.

      I mean, lets say a corrupt government was after you. Why do you think it unlikely they would burn down your house after you crossed them?

      Even if any hypothethical corruption in Belizean government had anything to do with it being after McAfee, as opposed to simply doing its job and trying to round up a murder suspect, why would they destroy their own property?

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  15. Re:what mcafee is good for: by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    the potential for some conspiratards to see themselves as they talk about "the government"

    because it's all the same paranoid bullshit

    if they really had anything on him for the murder, they would ask usa to extradite and the usa would extradite. if there's a tell that the accusations are phony it's that they're unable to prove them without beating him up(yay gitmo!).

    it's an interesting story about 3rd world politics and gangland rules by local cops in 3rd world countries, that has little to do with conspiracy theories - but much more about why doing legit business in some countries is pretty hard since you can't just look the local mob(police) rules up from a book. part of those rules is that the establishment(local coppers, mob, whoever) has to keep the natives from getting any funny ideas that they wouldn't need to bribe. if his property was torched on purpose to intimidate someone, it was done to intimidate the locals to not ask questions "hey, what about that murder? what was that all about?" rather than to screw with mcafee, since he is already far out of their radar.

    bad thing is of course that building codes, zoning rules and openly planning city/society development go straight out of the window in areas governed like that. it's kinda stupid since if they just acted by the books they could get a lot of foreign investment and people to come - which is why some countries attract pensioners etc easier: because there they don't have to deal with the bullshit.

    it's a common phenomena that usually happens just about everywhere if public officials have low official pay, so low that stinging money out of favelas even makes sense - and officers have so low pay as well that they ask the lower level coppers for part of the bribes - exactly like a mob racket with protection money that flows up the organization. over the russian border here it's the same thing, so much that people are instructed to not carry their actual passports around when going sightseeing so that they don't have to bribe police, random soldiers or whoever happens to take it without reason. it's also the reason why many russian logistic centers are situated on this side of the border: because on the other side you never know what's going to happen, the local governor might just give the land contracted to your logistics center to someone else who paid him personally rather than the city... it's really sad because it hampers trade and makes living for the law abiding normal people pretty complicated - would be a lot simpler to just increase taxes and have better, more honest coppers and officials(since the bribing amounts to an extra tax anyways).

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  16. Re:what mcafee is good for: by Luckyo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This nutcase basically had close contacts with local gangs to supply his drug addiction. Then in drunken frenzy he killed his neighbor which didn't get cleaned up by his gang friends and got in trouble with the local law on the level he couldn't fix with money.

    Next you'll start calling drug smugglers on Afghanistan-Iran border "political prisoners".

  17. Re:what mcafee is good for: by Jiro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is untrue. Belize is a former British colony and as such is in some ways a lot more like the ex-British Carribbean islands than it is like Latin America. However,m the population of those islands and Belize is mostly black. You can easily go to Wikipedia and find a picture of the prime minister of Belize. He's black. A white person would certainly be very visible to any local thugs and would not be considered a member of the ruling class.

  18. JM: International Man of Mystery by Rob_Bryerton · · Score: 4, Funny

    SETTING: SOMEWHERE OFF THE COAST OF BELIZE

    After stowing away on a SEAL training flight, John exited the aircraft at 50,000 feet. His H.A.L.O. insertion going to plan, he landed 50 nautical miles in the blue waters off the coast of Belize. As luck would have it, there was a submarine, a Russian boomer, on the surface, which John quickly boarded. After killing the captain with his own sidearm, John took command of the sub. Setting course for his island lair, the Russian sub was intercepted by an American fast attack sub with Alec Baldwin on board coaching the crew.

    Several "Crazy Ivan's" later, the US sub dodging Russian torpedoes all the while, the Russian sub was struck by its own torpedo, fatally damaging the vessel. By this time, the majority of the crew had committed suicide, opting for that fate rather than listen to John regale them with his witty anecdotes of his worldly exploits. As the sub was sinking, John managed to escape to the surface using a deep water escape gadget, which, as the inventor, he owns the patent on.

    Armed only with his trusty knife, he fought off several Great White sharks, and met up with a pod of Pacific spotted dolphins who, recognizing him, agreed to help him reach his island stronghold. Knowing both the CIA and members of the former KGB were closing on his location, John set about arming the charges he had built into the foundation of his house and laboratory.

    Laughing maniacally, John set off the charges as he slowly walked away from his compound, huge explosions in the background. This ensuring nobody would ever get the secrets of his special formula female Viagra created with his own blend of freebase MDPV and rare jungle herbs.

    CUE BOND MUSIC, FADE TO BLACK...

  19. Re:Compound Location by smugfunt · · Score: 2

    The fire was at McAfee's compound near Orange Walk on the mainland, not his house on Ambergris Caye (contrary to Fox's lazy assumption).

    This time of year it's very dry, especially up north. Bush fires are not uncommon. The caretaker claimed it was a bush fire that took out the buildings. It's plausible, though it doesn't say much for his caretaking skills.

  20. Re:what mcafee is good for: by Xest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Then, after the cold war, there are no longer "Marxist Terror Gangs". They all just gave up and went home, I guess. Now, there are "Muslim Terror Gangs". Amazing."

    To be fair a lot of terror gangs gave up and went home and I think it'd be hard to suggest some of them were run by the security services. Some of the Palestinian organisations, some of the Japanese groups and so forth for example. There were far more terror groups in the 60s, 70s, and 80s than there were afterwards

    I think it's a combination of the fact that policies not to negotiate with terrorists, combined with successful anti-terror operations that left the terrorists red faced (in more ways than one) combined with increase global stability (which let's face it, did happen after the cold war) coupled with greater global prosperity as a result decreased the impact of it.

    In fact, you can see a pretty strong parallel between the decrease of poverty in places where these groups were from a decrease in prominence and existence of such groups so I'd frankly wager that it's more about that than anything.

    I think the security services are given way too much credit. Given the sorts of absurd fuckups they're often responsible for I'm not really sure they have the competence to carry out the sort of conspiracies you suggest.

  21. Re:What is slashdot's obsession by Drakonblayde · · Score: 3, Funny

    He's the village idiot. Yeah, he's batshit insane, but this is our village, and he's our idiot.