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India's ICBM Will Carry Multiple Nuclear Warheads
An anonymous reader writes "India is equipping its longest range nuclear-capable missile, the Agni-V, with Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicles (MIRVs), The Diplomat reports. A MIRVed Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) carries multiple nuclear warheads on a single missile, which it dispenses towards numerous or a single target after the final stage of the ICBM boosts off. MIRVed missiles destabilized the Cold War nuclear balance and are likely to do so again: 'Because they give nations greater confidence in being able to destroy an adversary's hardened missile silo sites in a first strike by launching multiple, lower yield warheads at the sites.'"
Yet Iran gets all the bad publicity
Geee, I'm in awe...not.
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> MIRVed missiles destabilized the Cold War nuclear balance
Really? I thought it was the movie Star Wars the scared the Soviet Union into surrendering.
Nukes stopped the war, they should be able to stop rapists in India.
One vehicle per guy in a gangrape should do the job ; nuclear deterrence indeed.
Pakistan will race to be the first muslim country to do the same thing.
Then they'll duke it out with the Indians in Kashmir and Cina finally takes over what's left of the Indian subcontinent that is
non radioactive.
India could launch unarmed missiles at a desert island and still destroy everything of value in Pakistan.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
We need to stop this madness. Even if we assume that fall-out outside of India/Pakistan's borders is not severe if they were to ever have a war that turned nuclear, the entire world will suffer the climatological consequences. See the following link (warning, PDF)
http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/RobockToonSAD.pdf
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Doesn't India have other priorities? http://www.wateraid.org/uk/where-we-work/page/india
You may think me a tired, old, cynic. I'd have to disagree about the tired bit.
Nuke em now !!
The resulting dry cleaning bills will bankrupt the enemy.
India is keeping its ennemies close. The nukes are foremost to keep Pakistan and China under control. Why the heck are they devellooping ICBM capability? Thy really just need to be able to lob them far enough over the border...
10 ?"Hello World" life was simple then
India should be working on improved stick technology so they can win WWIV.
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You are really saying that the world community must band together in order to take all of America's nuclear weapons? After all, America is the ONLY country in all of history to have ever used a nuclear device against another, not once, but twice.
You can make all the distinctions you wish about right or wrong, but one cannot argue it is untrue.
Yeah, so maybe the subject is flame bait, but self righteous ass clowns like you really grind my gears.
You have the balls to talk about India spending money on weapons when the 21% of US children live in poverty?
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/about/overview/
When there an estimated 500k homeless people living in US cities?
America spends 4.5% on GDP on the military, NOT including the illegal wars being waged.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
You sir, are a jackass.
Indias new ICBM will sit in the ground and carry nothing, because its not going anywhere. So its incorrect to say it will cary multiple nuclear warheads. It will, at most, carry multiple dummy test warheads.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
There's plenty on Slashdot, most who live in America. any time there's a discussion of a foreign country, they feel the need to steer it back to America and do so by hating on America. Near as I can tell it is a combination of two things:
1) Trendiness in hating the US. For some reason, they feel that "cool" thing to do (so to speak) is to hate on the US. If anything is bad anywhere, they need to find a way it is worse in the US.
2) Arrogance/self centeredness. They can't deal with a discussion that isn't about them or their experiences, so they have to steer any discussion back to the US so it is. They mentally justify it to themselves as pointing out the US's flaws, but it is really about making the discussion about them and their world.
There's sadly a lot of it on Slashdot, it often gets moderated up, and it can make it difficult to have a real discussion about problems in the rest of the world.
Didn't anyone watch War Games?
Because I feel a lot better about Polar Bears going extinct quickly, all at once, rather than by slow starvation.
http://controversialhistory.blogspot.co.uk/2007/10/myth-of-ancient-nuclear-war.html#.UaiVCKq8xwA
Like any country, or rather any unit that has multiple areas they need to work on, everything gets its fair share of resources. One doesn't "prioritise" one thing in neglect of other things. Defence gets its share.
There is no such thing as a 'fair share'. This is all about making (political) choices.
By choosing to spend money on nukes that could have been spent elsewhere, Indian politicians do prioritize. The Indian defence spending may be relatively low, but one may still have the point of view that a part of it should have been spent differently. Assuming there is a 'fair share' for defence is assuming that whatever the outcome of a political debate is, is inherently the right outcome.
"Money is a sign of poverty." - Iain Banks
Obviously, you've never read an anti-abortion bill.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
As long as they do not get Deathheads, we're ok !
-- I played "Scorched earth" way to much ...
"and are likely to do so again: 'Because they give nations greater confidence in being able to destroy an adversary's hardened missile silo sites in a first strike by launching multiple, lower yield warheads at the sites.'"
Not true, here's why:
During the Cold War this was true because most missile silos were well, just that, ground-based. In nuclear scenarios, the idea was to have a powerful and overwhelming "first strike". The first strike would take out the enemy's ability to retaliate with nuclear weapons. This was why stealthy / high speed bombers were created, so they could penetrate enemy airspace and destroy his ability to counter-attack.
Fast forward to nuclear missile submarines, when an enemy presented a threat, the subs were dispersed from their pens into the ocean and would go quiet. The hidden subs presented a new first-strike threat. A sub could have SRBMs loaded, and pop up off the coast of a country (read: Russia) and destroy their land-based nukes.
However, all this became completely irrelevant when the opposition also possessed nuclear subs. Basically, the nuclear arms race has been a constant battle of one-upmanship where MAD reigns as the only realistic deterrent in the event of a war.
In theory, if India had many MIRVs they could feasibly take out all of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. But that's a joke. All it takes is a couple of nukes to get through to ruin your country's day. Beyond that, China would *never* stand for a nuclear exchange near their borders. This is why they are distancing themselves from North Korea.
...Pakistan will simply block ICBM on their great firewall...
....because they're a militant theocracy ruled by fundamentalists determined to dominate their neighbours & force the region into a nuclear showdown? because they're already funding terrorist and insurgency in neighboring states? Because they're funding Assad , the Hizballah and Hamas? You can pick the reasons you want.
....because they're a militant _corporatocracy_ ruled by fundamentalists determined to dominate their neighbours & force the region into _an economic_ showdown? because they're already funding terrorist and insurgency in neighboring states _and everywhere else_? Because they're funding _Mossad, Jundullah, People's Majahedin of Iran, Boko Haram, etc_? You can pick the reasons you want.
Fixed that for you.
Having played a lot of Scorched Earth and ATanks in my time, I can assure you that MIRV nukes are REALLY bad and can easily end up killing your own tank if launched in haste.
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Oh boy, 4 nukes that you only have to shoot down one time because they're all on the same missile. What a great tactical advantage...for the enemy. Sounds like a cost-saving measure to me, not an amazing advanced weapon.
There are 600 million Indians without access to toilets, but they are building ICBMs. At least they've got their priorities straight.
Proverbs 21:19
It takes three points to make a trend. Until the USA nukes someone else, you can consider the two previous bombings as irrelevant data.
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Looking through the article and its links, it seems like this is a response to China, which is deploying MIRVs to counter US-deployed anti-ballistic missile systems. With the Agni-V's extended range, India will be able to strike every city in China. Both sides are also developing submarine-launched missiles, which should hopefully reduce the incentive for a first strike.
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list India-Pakistan as the most likely place for nuclear war to erupt?
Anyway, MIRVs were my favorite weapon in Scorched Earth, so I wonder if Angry Birds has anything similar. Maybe in the next version.
meanwhile, a lot of volcanic DUMB bust0ring.
This is merely a summary. Before man travels into space, it should sort out the poverty issue, on a global level, in every country. For every living being. To build globally applied and designed food/water/energy grid seems the most reasonable solution. About weaponry -- especially those "producing" radioactivity. In regards to energy/power supply as well.. nuklear power is the most expensive power on this planet, roughly. Since, in the long term aftermath, concerning this energy carrier and its storage, disposal, processing, etc. it is almost unaffordable. In economic terms. Nukes are simply impracticable, since when used, they would pretty much destroy the only habitat man has yet "developed", truthfully it was "given" to man.. If someone believes in deterrence, he clearly didn't understand the premise that these weapons shall never be used. Whether a person would still justify the use of it. He is to me a raving lunatic not fit to handle this kind of weaponry. About America, don't get me wrong, I have quite many American friends who I hold in high esteem. But some individuals within the US border constantly talk about the land of the free, then what comes to mind? 4.000.000 humans led into slavery? Or help me get my data straigjht. How was this country founded? By almost entirely eradicating an entire Culture/people, namely the Native Americans. On the other hand, I do like Americans for their technological drive, inventions (not patents, and their way of exploiting the entire world) , IT, literature, some films, etc, still this .. "we do everything wrong once, but in the end we will do the right thing" philosophy simply does not fly. Not one bit. It's just not good enough. Yes, what else is there to say? Certainly no country (whatever that really is) is perfect. But America is seemingly not one the right way (That's a very subject opinion), but to me, people who are seemingly unable to admit fault or mistakes, are somewhat fishy. What I'd love to see is a America living by its own rules. Other than that, please America, give me some good advice, if it's a wise advice I shall certainly take it into consideration or live by it. But get your act together. You're sitting on a really large pile of skeletons. Have a decent day. And change what must be changed. Change it or live thru the consequences. Since most Americans might believe in causality, this could be a valid argument.
s/grid/grids/ , straight* etc..
I still love space, and technology, and NASA/ESA... :P
Indians are morally corrupt by birth (Caste system) for the past 3000 years.
http://www.firstpost.com/world/painting-india-red-why-the-global-racism-map-is-wrong-789019.html
Anti-Pakistan is a cheap tool/trick used by https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste people to promote their hegemony over https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_caste people in India.
People in Bhutan(17), Sri Lanka(22), Pakistan(24) are happier than India(35).
http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-worlds-10-happiest-countries/20110610.htm
Casteism
Due to Caste system in India it is difficult to govern more than 2 million citizens.
Government must reorganize all DISTRICTS into CANTONS.
http://polldaddy.com/p/209736
Casteism
The Nuclear doomsday has been outsourced at half the intial cost and three times cost in the long run post nuclear catastrophy....
Suddenly all these genetically incompetent monkeys are carrying scary weapons.
Time too leave.
Large cities were completely burned in World War II. Global temperatures didn't change.
So let me just check if i understand you..
As might i apparently right, if for example someone found a way of terrifying an entire populace through small actions well within
their capability, relatively easily repeatable, inexpensive, that however create a very large effect on both the economics and social
structure of the victim then they are on to a winner as that is a very effective way of creating might?
How does it feel to support terrorism?
Personally I like to consider morality somewhat important..
India is country with a deep rooted bureaucratic system in place. Also there is massive amounts of corruption in all spheres. in all probability, the MIRV missile story is mere eyewash. The media in India is cowardly and it cannot be depended upon to bring out the true facts whenever the government or the military is concerned and merely print the official press releases.
Aren't all of India's enemies on the same continent? Why does it need an intercontinental-range missile?
....and the weapon's race continues...
4 people living in a house HATE each other 24x7 for the past 3000 years (Caste system).
What will Congress party do?
BRIBE them (Reservations/NREGA/Aadhaar)
What will BJP do?
BULLY them (religious bigotry/Babri/Godhra riots)
What will an Intellectual (Gorbachev) do?
Give them their share of land/Independence and tell them to go and build their own nation (Perestroika/Communal Award)
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." --George Santayana
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perestroika
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_Award
Casteism
To get its priorities right
https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/prime-minister-of-india-each-state-in-india-should-have-different-currency
Casteism