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TSA Finishes Removing "Virtual Nude" X-Ray Devices From US Airports
dsinc writes "The Transportation Security Administration announced it has finished removing from all airports the X-ray technology that produced graphic and controversial images of passengers passing through security screening checkpoints. The machines, which the TSA first deployed in 2008, provoked public outrage as the technology, better able than traditional X-rays to detect hidden contraband, also created images that appeared as if they were 'virtual nudes.' Critics called this an invasion of privacy and questioned whether the scanning devices truly lacked the ability to save the images, as the TSA claimed."
The analog hole always existed, and always will. If one of the TSA Molesters, err, Protectors, saw an image on the screen they wanted to keep, all they had to do was hold up their cell phone and snap a pic.
Their arguments about how TSA agents aren't able to save the generated images is and always was total bullshit.
Although the X-ray versions have been removed, the equally invasive millimeter-wave versions are still there. The only difference is that now you have to spend a little time changing the device configuration to save off the images instead of being able to see them live.
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The scanners are still there. They still get the digital data of a virtual nude. They just pass that through an algorithm that replaces the image with a stick figure before the image is shown to the operator.
The government still gets the detailed biometric identifying information it wants, the digital 3d model of your nude body still gets stored in the databases they deny exist. They just don't show it to the operator now, so everyone feels better.
Security industrial complex got its billions and then guess what, it seems the machines have a problem. Ok, we'll buy the version 2 at only twice the price. A few years later ... what? They don't detect the latest terrorist explosives? Hey, we've just come out with version 3 and have we got a deal for you.
All the while the retiring senior TSA folks are getting job offers from the security industry to lobby and sell on these same government contracts.
I just love to hear my tax dollars being put to good use! (And by good use I mean a HUGE inconvenience\privacy invasion, the TSA is government at its finest)
and just make profiling part of the ticket purchase agreement
Critics called this an invasion of privacy and questioned whether the scanning devices truly lacked the ability to save the images, as the TSA claimed."
It has always had the ability to save such images; The TSA merely claimed that such a 'diagnostic mode' was not available during normal operation. There is no way for you, the passenger, to know if and when it is in such a diagnostic mode, however. So the TSA's claim is technically true.
But since the radiation levels have also not been published, it's also technically true that the radiation levels are safe, in spite of those cancer clusters showing up, because the TSA says they're safe and therefore there is no need to publish the emission limits.
In other words... all you have to go on is their word in both cases. Which, given as many times as their statements haven't been found to be credible, is no assurance at all.
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We are neither safer nor more at risk with these machines gone. As long as we're limited to 1-1/2oz shampoo bottles, we know TSA is on the job.
Can't save images? Then how is it that they have found TSA personnel with collections of images from the machine, not to mention the ones printed out and posted in the breakroom? Subjects were apparently females with better than average anatomical traits of course.
At least they recently fired the one caught masturbating to the screens while on monitor duty.
I don't care that much about the "Virtual Nude" thing. (Although I might care more if I were an attractive young female, I guess.)
My objection to the thing is the X-ray radiation. I am by no means convinced these things are safe.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=us-glossed-over-cancer-concerns
Four doctors from the University of California, San Francisco wrote an open letter expressing their grave concerns based on their expertise. They listed dangers of these scanners and requested to see the safety studies and get access to the raw data of the safety studies; they also asked for the names of the people who conducted the safety studies. The government's answer boiled down to "our experts have studied this and it's safe". Completely non-responsive to the listed concerns and not sharing any data.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126833083
So I never yet have let them scan me; I always have requested the pat-down. When they ask if I would prefer it in private, I tell them no. I'd rather the patdown be out in the open where anyone could watch. I have no particular reason to think any TSA agent would give me extra trouble in private, but I'd prefer as much publicity as possible.
I guess millimeter wave isn't ionizing radiation? That's a giant improvement right there. Maybe the new machines are safe? Safer, anyway.
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If some perv wants to go blind looking at a blue-man-group version of my naked body, fine! I never understood this. I guess the only way to accept this is if we see a skeletal structure that sees weapons ala Total Recall. Can't imagine doing this without a great deal of radiation though.....
There is still the problem of all the images they already took. Those images are probably stored on a server somewhere. Now is not the time to rejoice, the job isn't finished yet. We, the people, need to demand the destruction of those images.
They removed all of these nude scanners from the Airports. Where did they go? Does anyone really believe the government would just discard all of this expensive security theatre hardware they've already paid for?
Hardly.
http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/tsa-admits-plotting-nude-body-scanners-for-rail-bus-refuses-environmental-impact-study/
Cancer clusters showing up? This is the first I have heard of this. Do you have an article I can read? I'd love to know more!
Are these the X-ray machines that Chertoff was supposed to have made so much money on. (Yeah, I know, preposition...)
I am just thankful that most of my air travel is NOT in the US! Security checks in other places can be onerous, too, but rarely as bad as when in the US. But security practices used worldwide are mostly at the behest of the TSA.
The employees of the Department of Homeland Security [a euphoric term] are by definition Enemy Combatants using the language of Obama's secret Executive Order Directives.
Enemy Combatants can be killed on sight at will by the lawful citizens of the United States of America and Its Territories so long as the killing occurs within the United States of America and Its Territories.
mmW is very low frequency, relatively speaking. Remember visible light is in the 750-380nm range and it is (obviously) non-ionizing. mmW, also called terahertz radiation, since that's the range it is in, is obviously much lower frequency. It is below infrared, but above microwave.
As such it is non-ionizing, and there is no reason to believe that it could cause any damage, other than thermal damage, and then only if done in large quantities in a short time. There was a paper that claimed it could "unzip" the DNA double helix, however it was based on a simulation, without experimental verification and later analysis has concluded this won't happen at the temperatures in the body.
The reason why it wasn't widely deployed to begin with is, as it often is, nepotism. Rapidiscan makes the X-ray scanners, L3 makes the mmW ones. Michael Chertoff, the homeland secretary at the time, had ties to Rapidiscan.
There were several reports of cancer clusters in the operators of the machines - the people who stand right beside a scattering x-ray day in and day out. X-rays are waves, and they bounce, but there is no shielding on the entrance and exit. So if you stand beside them, you are bound to get SOME xrays each time. Anyway, many people think they were shut down because the cancer clusters became so obvious that it would be hard to deny the relationship. They prevented more risk by switching to terahertz, where they get similar results but without the x-rays.
http://www.infowars.com/cancer-surges-in-body-scanner-operators-tsa-launches-cover-up/
(yes, I know infowars has a mixed reputation, but it has supporting links)
That was a lot of cameltoe!
Have you seen the travelers in the security check line? If I was a screener I would demand a machine that makes people seem MORE clothed.
Is that since 9/11, the terrorists have won and rule America. And I'm not talking about Bush's home boys from the Bin Laden family.
Pat me down.
Had the fellow at the airport literally grab my penis last time. So yeah... that was uncomfortable. But that is how you ACTUALLY drives these machines out of the airport. Refuse to use them.
When the TSA finds that pat downs are not effective at forcing people into the scanners they'll let us walk through a metal detector and leave us alone.
Its not as if the xray machines have ever stopped a terrorist attack or likely ever will.
Do you know how you stop a terrorist attack? Know who is getting on the f'ing airplane. Its not that complicated. All the people that have later gone on to do some terrorist attack were on a terrorist watch list already.
Is it fair to profile someone WHO IS ALREADY on a terrorist watch list? That is, if you're on a terrorist watch list... would it be fair to pat YOU down or scan you you or whatever? Again, not simply because of race, national origin, or anything equally specious. But contacts and behavior consistent with someone plotting a terrorist attack.
And if someone is clever enough to stay off those lists while also intending a terrorist attack... do you really think an xray machine is going to stop them? Xray machines would stop a moron that would jam explosives up his sleeves without understanding how an xray machine works. You might claim it would deter a smarter attacker but really all you've done is force him to disguise the weapon or bomb as something else.
In the end, you're pitting the intelligence of someone clever enough to stay off the watch lists against a minimum wage government drone bored off his ass while he scans yet another person that he has no belief is a threat.
When you treat EVERYONE as a threat you threat NO ONE as a threat. You have to have targeted security. Enough passive security to deter morons and really a metal detector is more then sufficient to do that. And then the FBI and CIA need to keep useful lists for the few clever ones that might try something sneaky. And when one of the sneaky ones books a plane flight... they spend an extra 10 minutes in back room as someone gropes them for... whatever. Everyone else though... don't waste our time or dull edge of your security by pretending we're a threat when we're not.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
...dictate that everyone has the right to opt-out. However some British airports decided not to allow this, which goes against these European regulations (http://ec.europa.eu/justice/fundamental-rights/files/charter_report_2012_en.pdf). It will still require some legal battle of course.
Since these useless things didn't stop a single potential instance of terrorism, is Chertoff going to give the US taxpayers their money back?
You have no reason to hide anything says the Anonymous Coward.
people know that almost all copy machines have a hard drive that saves copies of all documents copied?
why pregnant (or potentially pregnant) women ...and children, are not allowed to go through the new machines?
If, for whatever reason, they don't want my kids going through the machine...I'll be damned if I'm going.
(I am an American that makes an international business trip at least twice a quarter and I will never go through those machines. In fact, I request a private screening so they can spare the public my treatment like a criminal. Plus, that takes two TSA agents off "the line" instead of just one....assholes).
Hmm, no wonder you posted as an anon. coward, your post is absurdly braindead, and as a result you want to not have to face the backlash for your braindead statements.
If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
Every time I opt out, I am subject to TSA employees persuading me to go through the scanner instead. I always tell them: I am just doing what I can to save your job, as soon you will be replaced by the machine.
They usually do not know how to respond to that, so they shut up.