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Google Preparing "Google Mine" For Organizing and Sharing Your Stuff On Google+

MojoKid writes "George Carlin said it best, we all 'need a place to put our stuff.' It seems the folks at Google understand this age old wisdom as well and as such will be launching a new service. Google Mine will reportedly soon be integrated with Google+ so that users can share their belongings with friends in circles they so designate. The new service will also allow G+ users to rate and review items as well, so that anyone in your Google+ stream that you allow, can see the items and your opinion of them. Reportedly there is also an Android app on the way for Mine, which seems like a natural of course, for sharing your stuff on the go. What's perhaps most interesting about the prospects of Google+ Mine could be the secondary benefit that Google receives from data 'mining' your shares on the items you own, use or want."

129 comments

  1. Finally it becomes clear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When we are all Google Miners, we will all become GoogleBot.

  2. Is it the 1st of April yet? by OneAhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They couldn't have chosen a more ironic name for it if they tried to. Or could they, /. ?

    1. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's also "Google Latitude", in which we give Google latitude to do what they like with our location data.

    2. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The NSA need to fill all these brand new datacenters to justify the expense, you know.

    3. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by swamp_ig · · Score: 1

      But what could me more metaphorically obvious, than your circles using glass for mining from the stream?

    4. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's that twisted humor the reason Google is so famous for

    5. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "They couldn't have chosen a more ironic name for it if they tried to. Or could they, /. ?"

      My thoughts exactly. "A place for your stuff" == "A great place to go mining."

      I don't think it's necessary to point out who those miners might be.

    6. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep your stuff safe in the Google Mine, hosted in our brand-new, state-of-the-art Utah facility!

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/14/nsa-utah-data-facility

    7. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Seumas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've given up on all stuff Google. I really just want one solid place to provide a good chunk of my services (so that it is all cohesive), but Google can't get their shit together. Things come and go overnight. They get abandoned. They make things very convoluted (Google Drive/Docs could not possibly have a worse interface and a shittier capability to sort/organize things -- want to easily find the size of a file in your google docs/drive? Good luck!).

      All Google has done is proven themselves to throw too many things at the wall, abandon them quickly, and do them poorly. Once a big Google fan, I've come to realize that their big hits are less from the wisdom of Google and their engineers and more a result of simple probability. If you throw 500 things at the wall, two of them are inevitably *not* going to be total shit.

    8. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Things come and go overnight.

      I'm pretty sure you're exaggerating.

      I am pissed about iGoogle going away this coming November, but we have known about it for well over a year, giving me plenty of time to find a replacement (which does not appear to exist, for some reason).

      I guess these hassles are the price for free services. Wait, I thought having access to my web activity was the price for free services. Well, maybe the price is too damn high.

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    9. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They couldn't have chosen a more ironic name for it if they tried to. Or could they, /. ?

      G-spot was taken I guess.

      It seems like calling this google Mine, is going to cause havoc when people google the term Data Mining. I'm actually wondering if this might even have been the intent to cause obfuscation. They should have called it Google `Nuff Stuff Already or G-NSA for short, to really cover their tracks.

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    10. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      There are all sorts of iGoogle replacements. Just to name a few...

      NetVibes
      U-Start
      Proto-Page

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      #DeleteChrome
    11. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Al3s · · Score: 1

      Proto-Page looks great. I've been using NetVibes for a while but the option to add your favourite search engine on this is great. Thanks for the recomendation.

    12. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes! It all becomes clear. Google is simply a front for the NSA.

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    13. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Kugrian · · Score: 1

      http://www.ighome.com/ is also worth mentioning.

    14. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I wonder if it will let you list music, software, movies and other intellectual property? These days you don't usually own it, you simply have a license to use it under very limited circumstances. Claiming ownership could be considered copyright infringement or "theft" if you are the RIAA/MPAA.

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    15. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Thank you, friend. Netvibes hasn't worked for me, but I will try Proto-page right now.

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    16. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Ah, those are RSS readers. I've got one of those already, embedded in my iGoogle page.

      I see below someone has suggested igHome. It looks a lot more like what I'm looking for, but only if it has a widget for my Gmail accounts.

      That Proto-Page is an awfully nice RSS reader, though.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    17. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Tolkienfanatic · · Score: 0

      More like Google Mine-ing Your Data AMIRITE?

    18. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

      "Google My Precious" would have been more geeky.

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    19. Re:Is it the 1st of April yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They couldn't have chosen a more ironic name for it if they tried to. Or could they, /. ?

      I'm tired of Googling mine. I wanna google yours now.

  3. Mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    At least they are being honest now.. They are mining YOU!

  4. Not sure what I'm more excited about by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Boy, not sure what I'm more excited about. The "What's the Vic's net worth?" facial recognition application for Google Glass or this great new tool for burglars.

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    1. Re:Not sure what I'm more excited about by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      More likely anyone who owns certain fertilizers or a pressure cooker in a metropolitan area will be getting a knock from the anti-terrorism squad.

      Should be interesting when people start putting their gun collections on there.

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:Not sure what I'm more excited about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's neither of those things.

      It's marketing algorithms that show your TV is two generations behind the times and push you ads for the newest and shiniest. Algorithms that discover that you buy new vacation clothes every June. That mine the ages of your children based on previous purchases and suggest things just in time for Christmas.

      It's for insurance companies to sell you property insurance, warranties, and home security systems right after they see you replace a bunch of your stuff because you got robbed.

      Why think thug criminals when the real criminals are the slick corporations who are pushing this from behind the scenes so they can profit from it?

  5. Meh by M0j0_j0j0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm just waiting for the day when i have to close my gmail account due to the autoshare feature where all my g+ contacts get a a "Meh just received an email from amazon where he bought a facial massage, click here to buy too!"

    1. Re:Meh by deathguppie · · Score: 1

      I actually like some of the things google does.. but I had to unistall google+ from my phone because I couldn't find a way to stop it from uploading all of my photos, and videos. I don't like the fact that they took out the setting that allows you to only upload what you want to. I don't care that they don't automatically share. I don't feel like going through and deleting 50 million images and movies every time I log in to G+

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      once more into the breach
    2. Re:Meh by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'll assume that since you're not an AC this is a serious complaint and not FUD. You can stop the "auto-backup" of all photos under Settings/Accounts/Google/Google+/Camera & Photos/Auto-Backup ... just set it to "Off". Here's hoping this doesn't get modded down as well. I've just about had it with the various FUD and astro-turfing campaigns going on right now.

    3. Re:Meh by swillden · · Score: 4, Informative

      Settings/Accounts/Google/Google+/Camera & Photos/Auto-Backup ... just set it to "Off".

      Which is the default, actually. If it's been uploading everything, it's because you explicitly told it to.

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    4. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only problem is I have had this set to OFF since I first got the phone. If I take a picture, it still prompts me (several times) to share with G+. What annoys me is when they launch a new product/feature they automatically set it to ON. They should announce it and then ASK. That would give them a true measure of the popularity and worth of the feature.

    5. Re:Meh by coolmadsi · · Score: 1

      It is also possible to turn it off on the Google+ Android app, Settings->Camera and photos->Auto backup

    6. Re:Meh by deathguppie · · Score: 1

      Hrm.. funny I had read that on the web. Couldn't find the off. I tried it before and after posting here.. then I shot video of the settings to show I wasn't making it up, and while viewing the video before uploading, I saw it. Right at the top, blue button. I'd been looking at it the whole time, and just couldn't see it. God knows this is the biggest problem I have when writing code too.. just some dumb spelling error that takes me an hour to debug because I can't see it right in front of me...

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      once more into the breach
  6. Not a bad idea by onyxruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most people have too much stuff, and we don't even realize it. Get rid of half your stuff and you will find it incredibly liberating. You will discover that you your residence is less cluttered, it's easier to focus, it takes less time to clean and it's easier to spend time at your residence. Donate it, sell it, give it away, loan it, just plain get rid of it. You'll thank yourself for long afterwords.

    1. Re:Not a bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The more you have, the more you desire. Age-old truth. The weird mixture of the economy of scarcity and life of abundance has this schizophrenic effect on people.

    2. Re:Not a bad idea by astro · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I find this to be quite true. Though not entirely voluntarily,* I recently downsized from 25 years of built up possessions to almost nothing - a backpack and a couple of suitcases worth of belongings. It is absolutely liberating. Yes, there are some things I miss - but I don't think of it nearly as much as I would have thought. The freedom of not worrying about "things" is very real.

      * I was relieved of many of my possessions in my divorce; I shed the rest of them moving to Europe after a lifetime in the USA.

    3. Re:Not a bad idea by Danathar · · Score: 1

      What I want to know, is why did it take me so LONG to realize this? I'm sure there are people who have come to this conclusion before I did (and I'm 43), but it seems many people either realize this by about my age or don't EVER realize it.

      Now if I can only convince my wife we need to get rid of all the crap....

    4. Re:Not a bad idea by XcepticZP · · Score: 1

      For some of us, stuff is not just "stuff". They're memories... that you get reminded of when you see/use that object. They're gifts from someone you no longer have access to, someone that has long since moved on. They're tokens of periods, emotions, events, people. Because not all of us can just keep our memories safely in our minds. They wear out, and eventually disappear, if we don't keep them relatively fresh.

  7. jesus fucking H christ!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Seriously, anyone here got anything out of the NSA scandal, ANYONE??!!

    They were the first to collaborate with them. They have the largest most detailed database just for them, I have been saying over and over how fucking scary google is, no need for much of a brain to understand the power they have and the VERY EASY way to use it for complete evil, now we have PROOF. PROOF FOR FUCK SAKE!! Yet every fucking retard on the net still roots for them and call them awesome. FUCKING SHIT what more do you want, what the fuck will it take to get you retarded sheep dickheads to understand how fucking evil this company is??!!

    fuck politeness, fuck grammar, sometimes people just need to be told stuff bluntly:

    YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID AND DANGEROUS.

    1. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't confuse what slashdot nerds care about with what people care about in the real world. Slashdot groupthink is representative of about 0.1% of the real world, tops. It's insignificant when it comes to market influences.

      In the real world, nobody has a problem with google, and they are happy with google's free services. So happy that I know very few people who don't use gmail, and nobody who doesn't use google search, google maps, and google apps if they have an Android phone.

      That will continue to be true no matter how much you nerdrage against them. Get used to it.

    2. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by Nerdfest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If by first collaborate you mean the first to fight the requests and release the number of requests to the public then yes. There is also a huge difference between the potential to use a power for evil and actually doing it. They ain't perfect but they're miles better than *all* of their competitors, explaining the FUD spread by ACs like you over the last few years.

    3. Re: jesus fucking H christ!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 years ago you were crying about Microsoft and loving Google. Please shut the fuck up and move out of your moms basement

    4. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by RCL · · Score: 1

      Try Russia. They substitute Yandex for everything Google.

    5. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so much lately.

      Google is catching up on search, mail is mostly mail.ru and some gmail, IM trend moved to Skype from ICQ recently, social networking is generally VKontakte, with a bit of Odnoklassniki and my.mail.ru.

      TL;DR: we're spreading it almost equally between our government and yours.

    6. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

      But this is not the government, which is for the people, by the people (the NSA's government, that is).

      This is capitalist juggernaut sucking up all your data, reading your e-mails, eating your cookies and storing your wifi data so your phone knows where you are, and so does Google, so it can market intrusive ads to you. It's completely different.

    7. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by shentino · · Score: 1

      The notion that the government will not molest the biggest collector of marketing data is insane.

      What I'd like to know is if Google could expect to say "no" and not suffer for it.

      Why I even heard that the FTC was nudged into going after Google for antitrust issues even though there were other companies that were at least twice as bad.

      Strangely, at the time, Google was also one of the most uncooperative companies with the government.

    8. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by Clsid · · Score: 2

      And the funny thing is that there are all these alternatives out there. If you really cannot live without commercial systems, at least spread out the information among several of them that are owned by different companies. Or you can just use something like DuckDuckGo as your search engine, French DailyMotion for videos, rent your own website/e-mail and get your own domain. You can use that system to put files on the "cloud" with old-fashioned FTP.

      Those are very easy things to do, even if they are not flashy as using the latest Google Drive, etc.

    9. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhmm, you should not stop taking your meds. Please go back to the kitchen, find the plastic box with 'Monday' written on it and drink the tablets, right now, please.

    10. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by dinfinity · · Score: 2

      Or you can just use something like [...] French DailyMotion for videos

      Sure, now show me the tool that converts all the embedded YouTube videos and YouTube video links to their DailyMotion equivalents.

      You can use that system to put files on the "cloud" with old-fashioned FTP.

      That is terrible advice. Try sending your technologically challenged friends a file from your phone that only they can open, on their phone, using old-fashioned FTP. Even if you manage to somehow do it, it will be such a huge pain in the ass that you'll probably never do it again.
      Personally, I see BitTorrent Sync (-like solutions) combined with proper upstream bandwidth going a long way.

      I'm not saying one shouldn't look for alternatives, just that it isn't always as doable and easy as you imply.

    11. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by Branciforte · · Score: 2

      Techno-hipster cries "wolf". Yawn.

      Well, Google was third on the list in one of the diagrams, not first. And Google doesn't collaborate with the NSA other than manually responding to national security letters, which they are required to do by law.

      I've been inside the Google datacenters, for weeks at a time, including the CCNRs (network hardware center). There is no way that NSA has direct access to Google, unless there was a conspiracy involving thousands of people, including me.

      The only information that Google cares about is what you in the market for.

      But, I work for Google. So, maybe I'm lying. On the other hand, you are an anonymous coward with no real information. All you have it a tinfoil hat.

    12. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by Clsid · · Score: 1

      Well not everybody will have the knowledge to do these things. I understand that, but you can perfectly use something like WebDAV if you know a little bit about Linux/Apache, and when you do you can give your friends access and split the bills for hosting if you like. It's more that if people realize that there are options for most of that stuff things are totally doable.

      As far as converting YouTube videos to DailyMotion it is really easy to do. Just get any YouTube downloader app from CNET Download.com and just upload the video afterwards. Main issue is copyrights, but DailyMotion has a lot of stuff so it's not like you cannot live without it.

    13. Re:jesus fucking H christ!! by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      Well not everybody will have the knowledge to do these things. I understand that, but you can perfectly use something like WebDAV if you know a little bit about Linux/Apache, and when you do you can give your friends access and split the bills for hosting if you like.

      For some definitions of 'perfectly'.
      1. Start Whatsapp.
      2. Open group chat.
      3. Send attachment.

      Alternatively:
      1. Open file
      2. (on Android) Share/send to using: Google Drive/Dropbox.

      Both methods allow sharing something with multiple receivers and only those receivers, and require almost no effort of the receivers.
      Let's be honest: the only private alternative that is (almost) as easy for everybody as the above is to roll your own centralised Google Drive/Dropbox alternative like owncloud or using a distributed system like BTSync.

      As far as converting YouTube videos to DailyMotion it is really easy to do. Just get any YouTube downloader app from CNET Download.com and just upload the video afterwards. Main issue is copyrights, but DailyMotion has a lot of stuff so it's not like you cannot live without it.

      Really? You're suggesting that for the myriad of pages I view that contain YouTube content, I have to use a YouTube downloader that still hands my IP to GoogleTube to download the embedded videos/links?. Even disregarding the folly of reuploading it to DailyMotion, that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

      Don't get me wrong, I largely agree with where you're coming from, but I think suggesting things like FTP and DailyMotion is hurting the cause more than benefiting it.

  8. When they say share... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    ...presumably they mean with the NSA?

    1. Re:When they say share... by Seumas · · Score: 1

      More like, with the IRS.

  9. what could go wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Location service [X]
    social networking system to say when out [X]
    Home information based upon past social posts [X]
    List of property [X]

    One bad share later...

    1. Re:what could go wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or... registering for the service gives you +1 default friend: The NSA--sure makes their job 10x easier.

    2. Re:what could go wrong by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Story went up at 6:42, you posted at 7:01. So you came up with those four problems in about 15 minutes. So which is it that you assume:
      1. Google has been working on it for less than 15 minutes
      2. Everyone at google who is working on this or signed off on it is collectively dumber than you
      3. Google wants their users to get victimized

      "Don't make it public by default." Bam, solved that problem in about a minute. There are probably other ways google could try to prevent thefts.

  10. ISR by rossdee · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Soviet Russia Google mines YOU!

    1. Re:ISR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that is true. I believe Soviet Russia had collapsed before Google was created.

    2. Re:ISR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no no.. i this case the only correct alternative, given the other 2 is already happening outside of Soviet Russia, is In Soviet Russia Mines Google YOU!

    3. Re:ISR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see a continuity here...

    4. Re:ISR by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      And in the US, the IRS mines you!

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  11. Google+ still exists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The last time I went to it no one in my circles had updated anything about their profile in the past year.
     
    Meh.
     
    So much for Google.

  12. Burglars will love this. by BoRegardless · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I wonder who is dopey enough to use this?

    1. Re:Burglars will love this. by icebike · · Score: 2

      Burglars aren't likely to be in your Circles on Google+. (And if they are, you deserve any thing they get).

      But by the same token, simple notes work fine. Anyone could write such an app. Oh, wait, someone already did.

      Why does Google have to know what you lend out?
      So they can tell your mooching friends where they can borrow something?

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    2. Re:Burglars will love this. by mbone · · Score: 2

      The same sort of people who accept join/friend requests from all sorts of people they don't actually know on their social media sites.

      On the other side, they are called "marks."

    3. Re:Burglars will love this. by vilanye · · Score: 0

      If they are dumb enough to use any Google service they are dumb enough to fall for this. They don't have to be discrete anymore because their users have proven to be willing marks.

    4. Re:Burglars will love this. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      People whom you know to be burglars aren't likely to be in your Circles on Google+...

      YAKTANNTSIO.

      (You already know the acronym, no need to spell it out.)

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    5. Re:Burglars will love this. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2

      The same sort of people who accept join/friend requests from all sorts of people they don't actually know on their social media sites.

      I accept "friend" requests from anyone -- as a teacher/lecturer/author/poet/musician, I figure people I don't know are people who have been to one of my classes or performances.

      But when I choose what I share on Twitter or FB, I keep in mind that many "friends" there are strangers. I share only what I want to publish publicly.

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  13. This is like a creepy social experiment by water-and-sewer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These last couple of years are taking the shape of a creepy social experiment in which calloused developers working for billionaire corporations, see just how far they can go. "New app lets you share with all your friends and social-network-acquaintances the consistency of your last poop." Wow! Now with new icons and a fantastic new color scheme! Available for iphone, android, Blackberry, but not Winphone (sorry, folks)!

    Then watch everyone rush out and coo over the new app, forgetting the fact they're now publicizing something even more personal than the last time.

    How far will they go? I dunno - how far will we let them? Me, I'm going anti-social, and fast. This new social network trend is a recipe for disaster, and I plan on laughing about it from the safety of my underground weapons cache and tinfoil hat collection.

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    1. Re:This is like a creepy social experiment by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      I could not agree with you more. I ditched facebook 2 years ago after the realization that it was a moral cesspool. All other forms of 'social networking' I was already avoiding. I do have a g+ account but I never use it -- besides, doesn't everyone on the planet have a g+ account wether they know it or not? I have tried to explain the situation to others with wording very close to yours, and with a few other points. The problem is, the more people get wrapped up in social networking in general, or otherwise all things google, the more distracted from reality, and overall intellectually dense the become, therefore becoming harder to reach.

      Don't even get me started on ingress... I have nearly lost real life friends over this google social networking information gathering so called game.

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    2. Re:This is like a creepy social experiment by OhANameWhatName · · Score: 1

      laughing about it from the safety of my underground weapons cache

      There's still room down there??

    3. Re:This is like a creepy social experiment by Oyjord · · Score: 1

      "Ligten up, Francis."

      I have a Facebook account, I share on Google + as well, and I was one of the fist Ingress'ers in my city. I've shared nothing of any consequence to anyone in doing so. My life hasn't nor will it change in any significant way because of these activities which bring me a few moments of fun here and there at the cost of NOTHING to me. I already was a number to corporate America long ago, but I avoid consumerism and its pitfalls on my terms just fine.

      Sometimes I wonder why I read /., with all the crackpot tinfoil hat libertarians that troll it....

    4. Re:This is like a creepy social experiment by Paperweight · · Score: 2

      You should join our anti-government group on Facebook.

  14. Forget Tyler Durden! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no better way to define you as a person then what you own.

    You are what you own.

    1. Re:Forget Tyler Durden! by XcepticZP · · Score: 1

      Yes, because WE are the ones that bought that shit in the first place. It defines us because we defined it, by virtue of our choices. If you want to get all "deep" and "zen" about it, I'd suggest taking up a nu-age yoga class so you can leave the rest of us alone. Damn hippies.

  15. Is it PRISM-compliant too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would never share anything with my friends without letting the NSA know.

    1. Re:Is it PRISM-compliant too? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      You can count on it being IRS compliant too.

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      When information is power, privacy is freedom.
    2. Re:Is it PRISM-compliant too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live outside Canada and the Canadian Customs agency reads my mail. They usually open my Canada Revenue Service mail. The funny thing is that the Customs and Revenue Service is ONE organization. They effectively read their own mail, while they could simply have pulled up my tax file if they wanted to.

      I fully expect that this same retardedness is also the norm at the CSE, NSA and GCHQ. Imagine large rooms full of high school drop outs reading hundreds of millions of people's email and Facebook posts and giggling like little girls. Sigh...

  16. Right now at iPooped HQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "He's onto us! It leaked!"
    "We'll have to rush to drop it at AppStore!"
    "Did we flush all the bugs?"
    "Yes, it's solid! ..."

    OK, OK, I've got it, I'm leaving now, I'm leaving by myself, no need to use force...

  17. Carlin wouldn't approve by papasui · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think GC would appreciate being associated with this unless it was to make fun of the people that are using it.

    1. Re:Carlin wouldn't approve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The GC litmus test should be applied to every life situation - if it passes it's a good idea - if it doesn't it should die in a fire

  18. Sounds like loads of fun... by todfm · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Leave aside the the privacy and sharing issues for a moment. What difference in my life will it make if I tell the world that I own certain objects? None whatsoever. All it can do is help corporate America by making other people want what I have.

  19. Google's new motto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine.

  20. It's going to blow up in their face. by dicobalt · · Score: 1

    and all over NSA underpants.

  21. Google's rules for three year olds: by Hartree · · Score: 3, Funny

    Google's new storage service: MINE!!!!!

    Mine!
    Mine!
    Mine!

    Unless it violates the law. Then it's yours and we'll tell the FBI about it.

    1. Re: Google's rules for three year olds: by kj_kabaje · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, google will have to pay royalties to the seagulls in finding Nemo for that one.

  22. Google can't control themselves by Qwavel · · Score: 0

    When Page became CEO he started on a house-cleaing binge, shutting down various services. They said they had launched too many little products/initiatives, and now needed to put more resources behind fewer projects/products.

    Recently, with the launch of Keep - which looks like a nice start but is very barebones - and now the possible launch of Mine, it looks like they have already forgotten that sentiment.

    1. Re:Google can't control themselves by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They shut down money sinks, and are opening up potential new revenue streams. That's how business keeps moving forward. The reason for the closings and new launches is the same - profit.

      They had to explain it to the users without alienating users. "Your service that you like costs us too much money and isn't popular enough to monetize" doesn't have that snazzy ring to it.

      Google seems very much in control of themselves, outside of the various FTC probes they will be subjected to since they are trying to monopolize all data everywhere, as the stretch goal.

  23. taking bets: how long before THIS service ... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...goes kaput?

    at this point, only fools trust google to keep things running. put your 'stuff' there, get used to it and in a year or two, they change their minds and either change the terms on you or outright cancel it.

    I would not touch google services ever again. 'free' is not free when you have to spend time, later on, relocating.

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    1. Re:taking bets: how long before THIS service ... by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

      Compared to...?

      What? Facebook which enjoys changing its interfaces every 6 months for no reason? (and no warning)

      Myspace? Friendster?

      Google is easily the best when it comes to discontinuing services since they usually let you know ahead of time and give you the option to migrate your data. Even though some of the things they've discontinued have been really random (Reader didn't need much maintenance, neither did iGoogle) they've given people ample notice.

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    2. Re:taking bets: how long before THIS service ... by bunkymag · · Score: 1

      Whereas we all know that 'paid for' services are invulnerable and never, ever shut down..

  24. Google's new names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's wrong with simple names like gmail? I can only imagine the group of people that came up the double entendre Google Mine. I don't want to use it simply because of the name. Why not gshare? I would no it''s google and I would know what it was for. Google Drive, Google Play, +. Why not stick to gspace, gstore, gsocial. What's next, the google porn site called Google Nothing.

  25. Google Mine Correction Officer by Time_Ngler · · Score: 5, Funny

    One Timex digital watch, broken. One unused prophylactic. One soiled. One black suit jacket, one pair black suit pants. One hat, black. One pair of sunglasses. $23.07. Sign here.

    1. Re:Google Mine Correction Officer by Zynder · · Score: 2

      Oh no thank you, Officer. All I need is my Wizard Robe and Hat!

    2. Re:Google Mine Correction Officer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One half-bar of chocolate... One bunch of keys on white metal ring... One packet of cigarettes... Two plastic ball pens. One black, one red... One pocket comb, black plastic... One address book ... * imitation * red leather... One ten-penny piece... One white metal wristlet watch ... * Time-a-wrist *, on a white metal expanding bracelet... Anything else in your pockets?

      Right! Sign here for your valuable property...

      The chocolate and cigarettes you brought in... you lose that as you are now a registered user! Now go over to the table and get * UNDRESSED!!

  26. We are definitely past peak Google by mbone · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I am not even going to waste electrons describing why Google DataMine (the "data" is silent) is a bad idea. These reasons will have already occurred to anyone intelligent enough to bother discussing them with.

    1. Re:We are definitely past peak Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not going to talk about it either. Who else isn't going to talk about this?

    2. Re:We are definitely past peak Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most assuredly, I shan't be discussing this at all!

    3. Re:We are definitely past peak Google by OldSport · · Score: 1

      Hey guys, what are you not talking about?

  27. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google Mines Yo..

    No, wait..

  28. yes this is what I needed by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only thing better than stupid opinions people express on Yelp is having my own personal Yelp where people write their idiotic opinions about my house and possessions.

  29. Also coming soon - Google Mime! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pretending to give a shit about your privacy.

  30. Ever feel like a lab rat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Google scares the hell out me. The stuff coming out of there has become really creepy. Are we on a unstoppable path to a Dystopian future?

  31. Google Ours by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    As long as you consider that everything you put in the cloud is essentially public, or at least, that have access to it specifically the people that could damage you more having access to it (even by misunderstanding it), is up to you. At the very least until Google relocates itself on their own data heaven outside any national jurisdiction.

  32. Sounds ridiculous, but by BlackHornet · · Score: 2

    most people do like to boast about their possessions. I wonder if it will ensure some kind of truth policy like the real name policy on some sites - "Sorry, Porsche is not a valid item for Your social circle".

  33. Am I getting old? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Neither slashdot summary nor TFA give me a clear idea of what this stuff is about. Am I getting old or is it just too early in the morning?

    At least I understood this is about giving Google some personal data. But that (Google + personal data) is a easy finding

    1. Re:Am I getting old? by RJFerret · · Score: 1

      Me too.

      And no Wikipedia article, but Engadget had an article days ago, it's a system for listing things like book or DVD loans. IE, you can post your library to your circle of friends and they could respond, "I've always wanted to check out X". Voilà, sharing resources.

      I'll find it useful to keep track of gear left with others.

  34. How long before by fred911 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    They require use of G+? How many times must I close a tab in order not to accept its TOS?

    no face, no space.. /.'s as social as I get. Screw G+

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  35. Carlin never said stuff by plopez · · Score: 0

    He said "shit". He talked about people running out of room for their shit and having to get a bigger house so they could put more shit into it. And that is what 90% of what most people own is, shit. Even more so now that both software and hardware tech are designed around planned obselesence. That nice new smart phone or table you have will be shit in 12 to 18 months when the new model comes out. And your personal information is shit too. The price of all your personal information google has on you is probably less than $1.00 when they sell it.

    Ponder that for a minute.

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    1. Re:Carlin never said stuff by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 4, Informative

      [Carlin never said stuff, h]e said "shit". He talked about people running out of room for their shit and having to get a bigger house so they could put more shit into it.

      No, he said "stuff". C'mon, dude, the title of the fucking album is A Place for My Stuff . Have some respect and don't misquote Carlin:

      Actually, this is just a place for my stuff, ya know? That's all; a little place for my stuff. That's all I want, that's all you need in life, is a little place for your stuff, ya know? I can see it on your table, everybody's got a little place for their stuff. This is my stuff, that's your stuff, that'll be his stuff over there.
      That's all you need in life, a little place for your stuff. That's all your house is- a place to keep your stuff. If you didn't have so much stuff, you wouldn't need a house. You could just walk around all the time.

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    2. Re:Carlin never said stuff by plopez · · Score: 1

      It was censored

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  36. What's the point? by Camael · · Score: 1

    Sure, this move benefits Google greatly -you're tagging their database and giving them more personal info, for free.

    For the user though, not so much. If you've bought a hot new phone and want to show it off, its much more satisfying to do it in person where you can gush over it and more importantly, see your friend's reaction.

    If you must share the news online, theres so many other ways to do it, over FB or Twitter for instance. All this instrusiveness achieves is make people more wary of using G+.

  37. Really? really? by theRunicBard · · Score: 1

    the amount of tin-foil-hat crazy on here needs to stop. From what I gather, this is not only optional, but is even then just a tool to show cool stuff to people. Ever buy a new _ and tell people about it? Or get a message from a friend about their cool new _? That's all this is. Get over yourselves. I like Slashdot because it discusses what other news sources ignore, but every time I see crazy on this scale, I start considering finding a new source. There's also this thing called Ebay. And places where you can store your stuff. Time to jump off a cliff? Please hurry, and leave the rest of us alone.

    1. Re:Really? really? by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      Ever buy a new _ and tell people about it? Or get a message from a friend about their cool new _? That's all this is. Get over yourselves.

      If this was just some small and relatively obscure part of the internet, then sure.
      But this is actually Google doing this. There are PhDs working on this tech!
      These are people that could (and should) instead be using their intellectual capabilities for solving the world's problems.

      This is not cool.

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    2. Re:Really? really? by theRunicBard · · Score: 1

      you get to decide what PhDs should do with their time? Interesting. That, would in no way be a dictatorship. Or perhaps we should get some sort of government body to dictate what is ok to research? Nobody - on here especially - would complain about that, calling it fascism. Look, on a serious note, I understand your concern, but this was their decision and you have no right to tell them otherwise. Google doesn't tax you (not nearly as directly as the real government does), so you don't get representation. The people at Google wanted to do this. So they will. If it sells, great, otherwise, they'll know to stop. If their PhD's decided to wank all day, they'd be able to do that too.

  38. We've been sliding down a slippery slope.. by 0ld_d0g · · Score: 1

    I remember the time when cookies being set was such a big deal. I remember seeing Leo Laporte (on ZDNet.. the screensavers? ) admonish websites who didn't have a privacy policy stating that they would never log your IP/access to their website or set any cookies. How times have changed :)

  39. This can be made even more general and confusing! by cripkd · · Score: 1

    It looks like Google tries to make G+ even more confusing. They seem panicked in finding something to up Facebook. I have a suggestion, call it Google Everything. We know that's coming anyway, right? So let's tattoo our G+ ID as barcode on our arms or foreheads and get it done with.

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  40. Copyright Law Extension by retroworks · · Score: 1

    I work in used stuff (vintage, antiques, etc.) and the price of 1930s high school yearbooks is quite interesting. I guess Google's future rights to sell access to dead people's images is a good investment. If I'm really bothered by it I can buy shares in Google or start my own depository. I just hope each time Disney and Friends gets congress to further extend their exclusive rights to Disney creations like Pocahontas and Sleeping Beauty, that we'll also get the copyright to our "data mine" extended, so I can freeze my head like Uncle Walt and enjoy the proceeds as much as he will when they defrost him.

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  41. Meanwhile... by OldSport · · Score: 1

    I'm preparing to migrate away from as many Google services as possible.

  42. An internet of free physical packages by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    Described by me here, but others had the idea before: http://www.pdfernhout.net/post-scarcity-princeton.html#Princeton_University_Freecycle_Transportation_Network_--_an_internet_of_physical_packages

    From there, as a disclosure to make it harder to patent it all:
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    Princeton University Freecycle Transportation Network -- an internet of physical packages

    Here is just one more example of changes to PU's infrastructure and operations from a Post-Scarcity point of view. These might take burning another billion dollars of the PU endowment or so, but you will see soon another reason why money is going out of style anyway, whether PU does this or someone else. :-) But, there may well be reasonable objections to it, so consider it first mainly as a thought experiment in understanding Post-Scarcity style issues. Maybe it is both possible and worth doing, maybe it is neither.

    A big problem in a post-scarcity society is not so much how to make abundance, but how to get rid of it. :-) The Freecycle network mentioned at the start is an example of that:
    http://www.freecycle.org/
    Or, from Wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Freecycle_Network

    "The Freecycle Network (often abbreviated TFN or just known as Freecycle) is a non-profit organization ... that organizes a worldwide network of "gifting" groups, aiming to divert reusable goods from landfill. It provides a worldwide online registry, and coordinates the creation of local groups and forums for individuals and non-profits to offer and receive free items for reuse or recycling, promoting gift economics as a motivating cultural outlook. "Changing the world one gift at a time" is The Freecycle Network's official tagline. "

    (Note that "Freecycle" is a trademark, so if PU used it, it would need permission.)

    Obviously, long term the solution in a few decades might be general purpose nanotech 3D printers that can both "print" (or "compile") and "unprint" (or "decompile").
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age
    Perhaps you don't believe that kind of 3D printing and unprinting is possible or even desirable (perhaps due to energy costs of disassembly). Or maybe you think 3D printing might be possible, but would take a long time. Or perhaps you expect much production and disposal may still be centralized at least at the neighborhood level. Or maybe you expect that people will still have sentimental attachments to specific items they wish to store and retrieve. So, until all those issues are resolved for 3D printing, how can PU handle the embarrasment of material riches it has now and will soon have more of? And how can it make it *easy* to do the same as "The Freecycle Network" does -- give away items to people who want them instead of sending them to a landfill?

    Material transportation and storage systems (like Amazon uses) could play a big role here.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos ('86)
    As could interactive computer information systems on material goods (like eBay pioneered).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meg_Whitman ('77)

    How might these be used together?

    Princeton University could put in place a system of kiosks around campus which had what looked like Star Trek matter replicators. These would all be connected underground to one or more warehouses. Whenever anyone needed anything on campus, they would go to a kiosk and flip through

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  43. Close to a good idea, if it weren't from the Goog by bitslinger_42 · · Score: 1

    I'd actually been thinking about a service somewhat like this for a while now, but apparently missed my opportunity to have my app bought out by Google. Pity.

    The problem with Google's project is it appears (I haven't read TFA yet) to only go half-way: it allows me to list the stuff I've got, but doesn't allow me to share my stuff with my friends. I'm much less interested in putting up an inventory of everything I own to allow my friends to tell me how much it sucks than I am in putting certain things up that I want to share with certain people (i.e. my circular saw, my DVD collection, etc.) and then tracking the loans online. THAT is the power of the online social inventory system!

  44. Re:An internet of free physical packages??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I LIKE my package!

  45. Stuff is Terrible! by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    And the more you get rid of, the more the rest of us can buy at used prices, reducing our COL, stress, and shopping angst. Works for me. Get rid of stuff! Stuff is bad! Particularly stuff like, um, money, yeah, and cute girlfriends, and um, let's see, great audio gear, fine guitars, and... oh, hey, stuff like an original Apple I, you have one of those, it's *really* ruining your life, just email me and I'll solve your horrible problem; I'll pick it up personally for you. I am your best friend in this matter. Carry on, now.

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  46. Keep your stuff in a Tent by Nohea · · Score: 1

    We should be moving toward keeping all our 'stuff' in a distributed individual server which we personally control, but services can access via standard API.

    There is a new project toward building this interoperable API - tent.io . It is just getting started, but deserves community support.

  47. Social network for your things by UneducatedSixpack · · Score: 0

    Ain't that awesome. My things could have their own social network. They can "friend" and "like" other things. I'll try to keep my bank accounts from social networking. I don't want my bank account sexting with somebody's paypal account.

  48. Not Scroogled my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glad to se the google shills are out in full force today! You never fail me, slashdot.

  49. iT -iTrAsset creates a connection with your assets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iTrAsset (www.itrasset.com) was launched earlier this month. The inception of our Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/Itrasset) will serve as proof.

    So what is iT -iTrAsset creates a connection with your assets. It lets you take an inventory of all your belongings. In the long-run iTrAsset lets you create lasting memories. And if you decide to sell any of your assets, it can provide a rich history (including pictures, videos, history, etc.) that can (only if you choose) be shared with a buyer. You can share your public assets with your Facebook friends.

    But yesterday Google leaked plans for a new service Google Mine. GM will reportedly soon be integrated with Google+ so that users can share their belongings with friends in circles they so designate.

    Does it hurt us or help us to have Google as a competitor? Plus we actually beat them to the market. What do you think?