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Microsoft To Add Ads To Smart Search

Vanderhoth writes "Today, Microsoft said its advertisers will be able to target users not just on Web search results pages but directly inside Windows Smart Search. David Pann, general manager of Microsoft's Search Advertising Group, said in an interview that advertisers don't have to do additional setup to participate. The Smart Search ads will feature a preview of the websites the ad will send people to, as well as click-to-call info and site links, which are additional links under the main result that direct users deeper into a website to the most likely page they might want."

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  1. LOL! by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is Microsoft trying deliberately to lose its customers?

    1. Re:LOL! by Sir_Sri · · Score: 2

      Seems like. "Smart" Search on windows 8.1 preview already has a habit of spitting back very sketchy sites when doing searches for windows feature type things, this is just going to make it worse.

  2. Ads added post-purchase? by omnichad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any time ads are added to a purchased program or device post-purchase, you can expect a big backlash.

    1. Re:Ads added post-purchase? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Informative

      Those ads got me to end my live subscription and stop buying games.

  3. Re:As if Windows8 wasn't having enough problems by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What makes you think that was not the idea all along?

    Have you seen Xbox home?

  4. Ugh by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While this seems like a good idea to MS and advertisers, I don't want Bing ads when I'm searching on things inside my machine or to let MS know about the searches I'm doing on my own files. I also can't see that enterprises want this feature turned on. For example if you are working on a proposal to expand your company's presence in a particular Asian country next year but can't find the document that you saved earlier, do you want MS to send information to advertisers about expansion in that country? What if they proposal shouldn't be divulged yet to people inside the company much less to people outside of the company.

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    1. Re:Ugh by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Worse: where I work we're subject to regulatory requirements about data disclosure. Having an external entity (Microsoft) be made aware of what we're doing before it's officially disclosed is a violation of Federal securities regulations. Having an external entity be made aware of private consumer credit information (which I work with regularly) is a violation of Federal privacy, consumer-protection and banking laws. The day this goes in, there's going to be a directive from Legal come down: this feature must be disabled completely or we must cease using Windows.

    2. Re:Ugh by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed.

      If your local search had a button to "also search online" after local results were found and that online search returned ads, that'd be one thing -- its just another interface to an internet search engine and we pretty much expect ads.

      But to automaticlly push local search online is bad enough, to return ads with that is just demented.

        Nobody wants this. Absolutely Nobody.

    3. Re:Ugh by psybre · · Score: 2

      Perhaps they will offer a super premium ultimate for workgroups edition that comes with this awesome feature unbundled.

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  5. Just copying. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ubuntu did it first.

    1. Re:Just copying. by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      and there was a huge backlash against it and even more users migrated to mint and/or debian

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    2. Re:Just copying. by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Also, didn't Ubuntu add an option to opt-out of the advertising after the backlash?

      yup they did, also they anonymised the searches as i recall from the forbes article a ms exec is quoted as saying;

      The goal, is to give advertisers access to consumers across a broader variety of their daily activities, not just when they’re overtly conducting a search.

      so they are not only seeing you search but from a detailed analysis of you computer daily usage.
      they are literally baking adware and spyware into their core OS.

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    3. Re:Just copying. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Given the rate of success at de-anonymizing all sorts of allegedly-anonymized datasets of any particular interest, it's best to treat 'anonymized' as a mere weasel word, even if it is used in clueless good faith(and it often doesn't even go that far).

    4. Re:Just copying. by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      To be fair, the setting only says "Get search suggestions and web results from Bing". It doesn't say anything about not sending information to Bing, just not getting results.

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  6. How to commit suicide, by Microsoft by Progman3K · · Score: 4, Funny

    We visit a Microsoft boardroom, where execs are discussing their future plans

    Exec 1: Hey, I've got an idea, you know how on that android-y thingy, you can download free apps but to make their money back on them, the developers serve ads? Why don't we do that?

    Exec 2: You mean serve people ads with software they've already paid for???

    Exec1: Yeah!

    Exec 3: Genius! Let's break for lunch!

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  7. dont get scroogled by wbr1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey MS. Targeted ads, pot, kettle, black something or other. Sigh.

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  8. Re:Douchebags! by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even before XBone's DRM clusterfuck, they'd guaranteed I wouldn't buy their next-gen crapbox the moment they put ads on my Xbox dashboard...

    Yeah, that was what prompted me to disconnect mine from the network too, and even though they've backed down and require only one-time, I'm still not buying the new one.

    But if Microsoft is going to start doing this stuff in the core OS, they're really going to further piss off their customers. The last thing I want is advertising embedded in the OS -- because you pretty much have to conclude the OS is spying on you.

    In doing this, Windows has more or less become something you simply can't trust, because those advertising hooks will pretty much be into everything.

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  10. holy fuck ball-mer is stupid. by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Informative

    holy fuck ball-mer is stupid.
    THIS is the time to introduce this? right after xbox one constantly on fiasco and the nsa leaks? right now? really? REALLY?
    and they're asking money for this? holy bejeezubus even if ubuntu does it that doesn't mean it's a good idea you know. fuck 'em. not going to use it.
    how the fuck are they going to justify paying for the os and getting even more ads on your fucking screen? the metro start screen as you get it out of the box is already a giant fucking grid of billboards and nothing else.

    (at least probably you can turn it off - and yeah you would pretty much be using the search to run anything if you were to use metro.. quite simply, because it's too bothersome to navigate by mouse)

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  11. Does this mean a copy of Windows is free now? by kheldan · · Score: 2

    The hell with that crap. If they're going to shove ads right in your face like that, then they should give Windows away for free. If you're paying for the OS then there should NEVER be anything like this. Screw you, Microsoft.

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  12. A change in pricing? by jbolden · · Score: 2

    We know that adware on lowend PCs was worth $75-90 per unit. I'd assume advertising revenue on the OS would be worth at least a little more. OEM windows 8 + Office was $120. Which means its entirely possible the ad revenue might be enough for Microsoft to make Windows 8 + Office (home) a free (as in beer) OS with the advertising. Or maybe even a slight subsidy like $50 for OEMs on systems over $500.

    WinRT is much cheaper closer to $30. There we could be looking at something like a $100-150 subsidy which might be almost all the hardware cost. You could be looking at fairly good WinRT systems for $99 or $199.

    I have no information but as idle speculation this might be a very very interesting change of strategy for home / small business.

  13. Re:Windows Free vs Pro by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I could understand this if Windows was a free product with an ad-free pro upgrade but for a full product this is inexcusable

    Even better, it's a feature that the high-willingness-to-pay corporate market will fucking loath(Oh, sure, we don't mind if our strategy leaks to who-knows-who every time somebody searches for an email...), it's a feature that will just help them look trashy and cheap compared to Apple(who already excels at making their competitors look trashy and cheap), and it is closest to the featureset of a more mature product that Google gives away for free with ads(and Microsoft wants you to pay for).

    Should be a big win all around! Then again, though, they've mostly gotten away with it on XBL, so it could be just that bad out there.

  14. Re:LOL by Goaway · · Score: 2

    In other words, you are still using Windows.

  15. HIPAA and many other laws/regulations by fallen1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    guarantees that Windows 8 / 8.1 will NEVER be utilized inside the medical field. I was already looking to have to explain to my bosses why we should not buy laptops with Windows 8 on them and this just sealed the deal for me -- HIPAA violations start at $50,000 per and go up to $150,000 per. Anything "analyzing" searches on our computer systems or networks is right out.

    Thank you, Microsoft, for making my job as an administrator that much easier! It has now become so that recommending Microsoft CAN get you fired.

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  16. Re:As if Windows8 wasn't having enough problems by poetmatt · · Score: 2

    how is having an icons in a folder = advertisement? they aren't even visible. that's not an advertisement, fool.

  17. Re:Douchebags! by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Funny

    Learn from them? They seem intent on duplicating them, but with even sloppier implementation. That's where the whole "tablet UI on the desktop" trend of idiocy started, too.

    Maybe I'm just coming of "get off my lawn" age, but it's getting rather depressing, just how hard it is to avoid this sort of fuckwittery these days...

  18. Re:As if Windows8 wasn't having enough problems by JDG1980 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you nailed it. "Welp, we expected a huge backlash for running ads on our paid service that Sony gives away for free... but somehow we got away with it! Let's do the bait and switch with our desktop market and see how well it works there"

    Apparently they didn't consider that what the gaming demographic is willing to put up with, serious businesses might not be. Gamers don't have to worry about HIPAA, PCI, SOX, or other privacy/security requirements.

    There's got to be some group policy setting to disable this 'smart search' and its corresponding ads, and have the search tool conduct local searches only. (Group policy editing is available only in Pro, but you can generally get the same results on the Home version by manually setting a corresponding registry key.) Even this management team at Microsoft couldn't be dumb enough to not realize that businesses need an opt-out. Could they?

  19. Pann? Aptly named! by Bearhouse · · Score: 2

    David Pann, general manager of Microsoft’s Search Advertising Group, said in an interview that advertisers don’t have to do additional setup to participate.

    Well whoopee! Thanks David. Considered your next career move yet?
    Better jump before your guys get the memo from SB saying that "all your staff are belong to us".

    On a more serious note, I've been resisting installing the "update" from Microsoft which wanted to add "Bing search" functionality to my WIndows 7 machine...wonder if this lovely feature will also be thus rolling out to 7 users in the future?

  20. Re:As if Windows8 wasn't having enough problems by Wookact · · Score: 2

    I do own a Nexus 7. I have yet to see any ads on the home screen. Why are you spreading BS?

  21. What no antitrust suggestions by Stan92057 · · Score: 2

    What no antitrust suggestions? wow Slashdot members are slipping.

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  22. Re:Douchebags! by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The difference between MS and Ubuntu here is that:
    1) MS expects me to pay money for a license and then pay again by being subject to ads, and
    2) Ubuntu gives me the OS for free, and lets me turn off the ads (or, even better, just install Kubuntu, which doesn't have the ads and works better.)

  23. Re:one day... by Sentrion · · Score: 2

    I also remember the day when you could by a T-shirt and the logo was kept hidden on a tag near the neck. Boy, I am an old-timer!