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Colorado Town Considers Drone-Hunting Licenses
New submitter ciotog writes "The town of Deer Trail, Colorado (population approximately 550) will be voting next month on whether to offer licenses for drone hunting. Furthermore, a bounty of $100 for each drone shot down will be offered (upon offering proof that the drone was potentially owned by the U.S. government). Is this just a fun gimmick, or a serious commentary on an increasingly surveillance based society?"
a completely illegal destruction of government property?
We're going to suggest you attempt to damage or destroy property of the US federal government. This is in no way a serious crime that removes all free speech ambiguity by offering to pay people to do it.
We promise we're not brain-dead morons.
There's no good reason to allow a surveilance state, and I support any government entity that helps the populace fight back against it in such efforts.
In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
Encouraging destruction of government property...
With a population of 550, Deer Trail, CO could suddenly find itself a bunch of empty buildings if Washington wished it.
Drone surveillance is pretty close to an antithesis to freedom - mindless minions of the faceless Big Brother watching people from the sky
I'm sure if it passes, Deer Trail, Colorado will be the site of a horrific chemical spill, forest fire, or other such catastrophe shortly thereafter.
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
WTF people! I was joking. I'm the last person you should take seriously most of the time!
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Is this just a fun gimmick, or a serious commentary on an increasingly surveillance based society?
Dunno but If they really do pass a law like that I'll be up there in a flash with my WWII vintage Mustang shooting down Predator/Reaper drones left right and center.
This is not a gimmick, this is 'Murica!
Although, given an average altitude of 8,000 feet for a drone, this is not an easy shot. Nor is the fact that the drone will be flying at ~100 MPH and winds at that altitude could easily be 50 MPH. It would be a hard task for even the best shot. And that math would be terrible.
sudo make me a sandwich
They'll hear!!!!!!!!
I thought they were saying a license to hunt animals using drones. THAT would be awesome! :P *pew pew* *deer falls down*
There should be nothing left on which a bounty could be claimed.
Obviously, there is no need to buy a license, either.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Another good reason for the government to outsource to the private sector.
why do you need a license? in the US you have the right to defend yourself with a weapon. no other license required. trespass onto my property and you'll see.
That $100 will even cover bail at best maybe some candy bars from the jail commissary
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Shoot at these things enough and they will get equipped to shoot back. And their aim's a lot better.
!#@%*)anks for hanging up the phone, dear.
Visit the West once or twice and you won't need to ask. Individualists were driven West by the crowds of "help me, I'm being picked on". Three are still a lot of them out there and when it comes to stopping illegal government actions, they don't joke around a lot. AC though "a completely illegal destruction of government property?" would result, but that's OK, see the illegal activities of the government have always been fair game:-). You do need a license though, the town has to know who's shooting up the sky.
Is there a problem that guns can't solve?
What doesn't kill you only delays the inevitable
These are a bunch of right-wing nut jobs that support drones bombing the crap out of Afghanistan, pakistan, etc, but are now worried that they are being spied on, even though it was in 2002-2005 that all of that came about. As it is, you are required to use a 12 gauge or smaller to shoot it out. IOW, they are not serious. Besides nothing medium to large that the feds has, flies that low. Their systems fly around 60K'.which is why taliban can not shoot them out with regular firearms.
What happens in Deer Trail, stays in Deer Trail.
Sounds like it will have some nice sensors, I want to get one intact!
Before you grab your shotguns and crossbows, remember that there are nearly a half-a-million radio-control plane enthusiasts out here in the countryside and we're NOT trying to spy on you. But we will send you a lawsuit and a big bill if you shoot down our planes.... ;-)
So the bounty is for "proof that the drone was potentially owned by the U.S. government". Sounds easy. Make a drone for less than 100 dollars. Place a "if found return to FBI" sticker on it. Profit. There is no "???".
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I live in the panhandle of Florida. I read a story in the local paper that the Air Force pretty much shut down a whole town and evacuated its citizens for a full 24 hours because a drone went off course and crashed and they could not find it.
It was leaked by an anonymous Air Force cadet that the reason for the "quarantine" was not just because of it being a drone and didn't want people to take pictures of it or because it was lost and didn't want to be embarrassed that they lost their plane, but it was because the drone had a self-destruct sequence and the battery that powered this sequence required at least 24 hours for it drain if the self-destruct sequence was not successful.
So, Colorado needs to be careful because they might shoot it down, be near it and then BOOM the drone explodes.
A friend of a friend once got shot in the leg and face while on a passenger jet because some yahoo on the ground took a shot at it while it was coming in for a landing. Taking pot shots at low-flying aircraft is something we may wanna discourage.
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This might be interesting as a TV game.
Drop the gamers of inside a 20 mile perimitter. Those that escape win a... ( survives ).
Does sound like the plot of an eighties b-movie.
But then again isn't that the game that the rich sons of the Saudi are playing in Afghanistan?
OK, what kind of musk do you attract drones with? When are they in season? Anybody know a good make of drone call? Are the readybuilt stands any good?
My cousin bagged a 9 point drone once. Got it hanging up in the rec room.
Someone has installed geninue appearing fake road signs warning that vehicle speed is 'enforced' by missile launching drones.
wrt to Colorado; tired of being governed by coastal state refugees a set of rural counties in Northern Colorado are pursuing statehood.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
... are so, so fucked.
Did anyone else think this article was going to be about hunting animals WITH drones?
I thought they were going to offer licenses to hunt WITH drones not FOR drones. (As in the difference between a "bow hunting" and "deer hunting" license.)
Hunting WITH drones seemed a bit technologically innovative. Though given the target is drones it also seems like a practical method. Who wouldn't enjoy a little drone on drone violence?
I know what you did last summer. Just kidding, I don't work at the NSA.
You just need a 40mm AA gun (radar aiming is good too), and if that doesn't quite do it for you, a q-motor rocket with steerable flight control fins (does that make it a missile?) powered by an arduino. The best drone is good for about 300 miles per hour, the rockets 'very gently' break the sound barrier (no more than 200-300 miles per hour faster than mach 1). You don't even need an explosive charge, just slamming into the drone will likely knock it out of the air.
This is a target rich thread.
It's probably a twofer.
The town of Deer Trail will give you $100
The USA Federal Government will give you an all-expenses paid vacation to the water treatment facilities at Guantanomo Bay.
Isn't attacking the government with guns protected by the constitution ?
Or is it only the brandishing and talking about that is protected ?
To be honest this is a really bad idea. Let's put it this way, do you think it's a good idea to shoot at an airplane? This would be an accident waiting to happen as I will bet some folks won't be able to tell the difference between a plane and a drone. What about stray bullets missing the "drone"? and hitting an airplane. Even worse is what do you do if you hit a drone and it goes up into a fireball (some are gas powered) and crashes onto someone's house because it is loaded with fuel.
Oh, I hoped it was a license to hunt USING a drone
Shot down over Deer Trail!
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Shit better not happen!
You can get a sticker for this license and put it in what remains of the rear window of your old Chevy truck, right next to your infinitely clever "terrorist hunting permit".
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
All the fed has to do is cut off the welfare checks.
IRS: Just don't forget to pay your federal income taxes on that $100.
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Maybe they could offer an optional Traffic Light Camera stamp so those could be taken out as well :-)
The 2nd only allows for the people to be armed, it doesn't allow you to ever USE those arms in ANY situation. BIG BIG DIFFERENCE. go read it. No self defense, no hunting; only the right to be armed. There is plenty about not attacking the government in there and elsewhere (see definition of Treason, which they wisely put in there... since that is an extremely abused label.)
It works because it allows for the possibility of illegal arms use -- which is just fine when the system is failing... such as during invasions, civil war, and the inevitable fall into despotism (hey, Franklin said it, it's not just me being realistic.)
Now you could easily read into it that they were intending for state militias and NOT standing armies... they all seemed rather strongly against a military industrial complex... One could interpret the 2nd away from the individualized interpretation and towards communities and states being armed with individuals having no personal right to arms. Due to the necessity of them at that time, a literal statement wasn't made but one could interpret an implied direction without stretching too far (relative to this corrupt activist supreme court, it is hard to stretch further than they have been willing to do.)
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Poor ole Deer Trail finally found a way to make the news. Seriously I've driven by this "town" many times and its a total and complete hole. There are other things the leaders of this place need to be worrying about more than shooting down drones.
Don't be fooled by those insidious drones that the government has been building lately that are disguised as Cessnas, Piper Cubs, and local news helicopters.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
And for Colorado they have been building some small ones that they cover with feathers and disguise as bald eagles.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Let's try switching it around - legalize the use of drones for hunting deer. Some constituencies would probably favor both ideas. Lots of economy stimulating possibilities there too!
I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer Jim!
Today they protesting the Colorado Theater Shooting anniversary memorial. They say the new gun laws take away theri rights. They say if every theater patron was armed, then that disaster would not occur.
They just held a constitutional convention split the state into two staes. The gun-sagfe rural counties would become a new state.
In the end it really doesn't matter what the founding fathers meant. What matters is what we'll allow as a society now. I doubt anyone would change their stance on the 2nd if some unknown book was found that pointed to what the founding fathers meant by the 2nd.
So... "fun gimmick, or a serious commentary on an increasingly surveillance based society?"
Really?
How about both. Are having a sense of humor and making a serious comment mutually opposed? Slashdot deserves better.
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I wouldn''t want to live near there when you get all those people shooting up into the air. Shotgun pellets can't go that far up to hit a drone, and they will fall back to Earth.
Waste of time.
how many of these people realise that just driving around with a smartphone gives away more information about your movements than a squadron of drones could ever collect. You would be better off shooting your phone instead.
Sweet!
Won't someone think of the kittehs?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVOK2yvbBM
In the end it really doesn't matter what the founding fathers meant. What matters is what we'll allow as a society now.
It doesn't matter what the founding fathers meant. What matters is what the state legislatures thought it meant when they ratified it.
What we'll allow as a society now only matters if we pass a new amendment overturning the 2nd. The meaning of the Constitution only changes with the passing of new amendments, not the passing of time.
"The state is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else." - Bastiat
are they limited to 21 years and older ?? You are required to get a regular hunting license and various tags at 14 in most places, even younger in some.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
If you notice, the 2nd Amendment only says "arms", it doesn't say pistols, or long guns, or swords, it says "arms". This is because many private merchantmen were armed with more cannons than some of the naval vessels, port towns had cannons and other weapons to protect against pirates, and the 'town hall cannon' was more than just an ornament as it was kept for protection from roving bands of brigands, raiders, Spaniards and Indians. A 'militia' doesn't need to be organized by the state, but by any local polity, either.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
That they meant using drones to hunt. Had to read this one, I mean, imagine 30/06 armed drones for deer hunting! I gotta get outta here I think I'm getting a little unglued, This Friday can't end fast enough.
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Who owns the sky in the USA? Is it member states or the federal state? In the former case we could imagine a state having a law making drones illegal, which would get interesting.
Apparently the "Interesting" mod and the "Underrated" mod are right next to each other. Didn't appear to be so....
Coming soon to theatre near you...
I'm sure people will totally obey that restriction.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Isn't the destruction of government and/or military-owned equipment considered an act of treason?
America was once a shinning symbol of freedom and liberty – what has happen to us. What does it mean when a government must lunch Spy Drones to spy of its own people? What are they up to? What are they doing to that so wrong they will go to any length to stop us from finding out?
One question, is the drone allowed to shot back in self defence?
Funny you brought that up, because I have noticed the exact same thing....SHILLS who troll the comment section and post anonymous comments attacking and ridiculing the views of Libertarians. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Powers That Be aren't now waging a full on war against the truth, by employing shills like YOU to come in places like this and corrupt the discourse. How laughable that you would try to deflect attention by claiming those you are attacking are using the methods you are yourself employing as we speak. What a pathetic piece of shit you are, boot kisser.
So log in with your real handle.....or shut the fuck up, tool.
You seem to have forgotten the "Hi Guys, I'm a shill from the NSA here to spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Disbelief) across the Internet! Unfortunately, I'm too fucking stupid to realize that the people here are too fucking smart to fall for my bullshit, so I'll just let myself out now, and thanks the same." tag in your comment.
What part of GP's post do you disagree with, specifically? Everything he said is correct. Put up a real rebuttal, or shut the fuck up. If you just want to be a douchebag, log in with your real name so we can see who it is. Otherwise...shut the fuck up.
The SC can change how the Constitution is interpreted. SO we can go from everyone has a right to a gun to only those in the National Guard have a right to a gun.
The SC can change how the Constitution is interpreted. SO we can go from everyone has a right to a gun to only those in the National Guard have a right to a gun.
Even if the SC were to "interpret" the 2nd amendment to only apply to the Guard, demonstrating either willful blindness or an abysmal lack of reading comprehension, it wouldn't change anyone's rights or what is constitutional. It would just mean that the SC refused to do its job and enforce the Constitution as written and ratified by the states.
"The state is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else." - Bastiat