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First Laptop With Full-Sized Solar Panels Will Run On Ubuntu

iwritethings writes "The Sol, a rugged-looking laptop with built-in foldable solar panels is designed for use in the military, education and developing countries where electricity is scarce. The Canada-based makers behind the Sol claim that the device can run directly off solar energy or can harness the sun's rays to charge the laptop's battery in under two hours. Once fully charged, the battery is expected to last between eight and 10 hours. While the concept of solar charging gadgets isn't new, this type of battery life is unprecedented. There's no word on when Sol will launch, but its headed to Ghana first, and it will run Ubuntu Linux."

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  1. Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hope it comes with a matte screen. A glossy screen would be unusable out in the sun.

    1. Re:Matte screen by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      Seriously, I wonder if they thought this out. Has anyone ever tried using a laptop in the sun? You can't even see the screen cupping your hands over part of it.

      Maybe LED backlighting could get it barely bright enough without sucking down the battery in 3 minutes.

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    2. Re:Matte screen by Skapare · · Score: 1

      Or maybe add in an ability to use sunlight as the display back lighting.

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    3. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you actually _used_ a laptop with a matte screen in the sun?

      It instantly washes out, and you can't see _anything_.
      A glossy screen may have some reflection, but it doesn't wash out to the same degree a matte one does.

      I've used both, and much prefer glossy in the sun.

    4. Re:Matte screen by niftydude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whatever happen to those colour E-ink screens Pixel Qi was working on? They would be perfect

      I was at a conference last year where some japanese guys were working on a microfluidic transflective displays - they are essentially as bright as the ambient light level is - those would also be pretty good for this.

      Come on people - we need low power daylight readable screens already.

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    5. Re:Matte screen by niftydude · · Score: 1

      Or maybe add in an ability to use sunlight as the display back lighting.

      You scoff - but that is what transflective displays are supposed to do - we just need someone to get one working outside the lab.

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    6. Re:Matte screen by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transflective_liquid-crystal_display
      My old iPAQ had a transflective screen. Easily readable in sunlight, and in indoor ambient light with the backlight turned off.

    7. Re:Matte screen by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      If you don't want any of that fancy "color" nonsense that the kids are talking about these days, you can get transflective displays limited only by the fact that people do want that fancy color nonsense which has largely consigned black and white LCDs to the very low end and TI-83s...



      A pity the XO-1's screen tech never saw broader adoption. Serviceable color with the backlight on, beautiful, crisp, B/W with ambient light only(looks almost as 'paper-like' as e-ink; but with TFT refresh rates).

    8. Re:Matte screen by Dereck1701 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Who says you need to use it in sunlight? Use it for a for however long you want indoors/under shade and then put it outside to charge. According to the article/summary it has a 10 hour battery life (probably embellished to be sure, but it probably lasts at least 6 under normal usage). If the designers are really clever, they'll give it two separate battery packs, one that stays with the laptop and one that is attached to an undockable solar module. Use the laptop indoors (theoretical 5 hour battery life) while you leave the solar module in the sun. Re-dock the solar module and it starts transferring at least partial power back to the laptops batteries (not sure how well laptop battery packs can transfer +90% of their power to another battery but 50/50 distribution should be relatively easy) so you can place the solar module back in the sun more quickly.

    9. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get one out of the lab? we use them for freaking 40 years now

    10. Re:Matte screen by Romancer · · Score: 1

      They are: http://www.gizbot.com/mobile/exclusive-sony-launch-smartwatch-2-september-news-013162.html
      Releasing in Sept.

      Small but functional display. No specs on the battery life but I'd guess pretty good from the history of transflective displays.

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    11. Re:Matte screen by Seumas · · Score: 3, Funny

      Has anyone ever tried using a laptop in the sun?

      This is Slashdot. We haven't even been in the sun.

      Maybe LED backlighting could get it barely bright enough without sucking down the battery in 3 minutes.

      My 2.8ghz 17" Macbook Pro probably consumes around 30 watts for normal usage, so with a 13" screen and lower powered everything, I would imagine this laptop would do fine - especially if they were to replace the hard drive with an SSD. Unless there has been a dramatic improvement in solar panel technology, I believe you should be able to get about 10 watts per square foot of panel, right? This looks like it has around 1.5sqft of solar panel, so while it might not be able to run continuously on solar power, using it in the sun should certainly supplement a fully charged cell such that it could run all day long without another charge?

    12. Re:Matte screen by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Simply make the panels detachable and offer a length of USB cord so you can use it while it is charging as long as you're within about twelve feet of a window in any room you're in (just slap the detachable panels up on the window during the day).

    13. Re:Matte screen by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      Panasonic's Toughbook rugged laptops have colour transflective displays. But the colours start looking washed out in bright sunlight, so perhaps the transflective part is black and white only somehow. And the readability in direct sunlight is not quite what the marketing wants you to believe - you're still better off finding some shade.

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    14. Re:Matte screen by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they thought to make the solar panels attachable by cable so you can at least take the thing inside while it's charging.

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    15. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Read the FAQ.

      A) They got an extension cord so you can sit inside your tent.
      B) You can charge the laptop and THEN work afterwords.

    16. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hope it comes with a matte screen. A glossy screen would be unusable out in the sun.

      And a transflective diplay....

    17. Re:Matte screen by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

      Has anyone ever tried using a laptop in the sun?

      Yeah, I'm using one in the sun almost daily and it sucks. Luckily, mine has a mate screen. Unfortunately, there seems to be only one company, California-based Clover Systems who sell laptops with Pixelq screen (except for OLPC who are unusable for serious work). There modded netbooks are a bit pricey, though. Still I'm tempted to order one some day.

      So yes, without a display that is readable in sunlight, their solar panel laptop will not be very useful.

    18. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use a matte screen laptop in the sun every day and cannot confirm your claim at all. My guess is you've used the matte screen laptop earlier and then changed to a glossy one, which simply has an overall better, brighter display because its from a later generation of displays. Like going from an old Thinkpad to a Macbook. That has nothing to do with glossy vs. matte.

    19. Re:Matte screen by dargaud · · Score: 1

      If they are so common (7 manufacturers according to your link), then why can't I code in the garden of the lab instead of my office yet ? I just did a search for a laptop with transflective screen and came out empty handed.

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    20. Re:Matte screen by fast+turtle · · Score: 2

      the OLPC (one laptop per child) project has a sunlight usable screen so why in hell couldn't this one use the same thing?

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    21. Re:Matte screen by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      I have seen (it was a long time ago) a device that had some kind of light-collector on the top of the screen, that worked like those little plastic light-guides used for LEDs. The end result was that the brighter the ambient light, the brighter the screen.

      If they don't have something like that on this, I don't know why the hell not - if only to save power by reducing the requirements for screen backlighting!

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    22. Re:Matte screen by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Color E-ink is still on the way, AFAIK, the problem with them is still the limited number of colors, slow response time and lack of saturation. It definitely will be here eventually, but color E-ink isn't particularly impressive at this point. Last I saw, it was similar to where the GBC was when Nintendo released it. There was color, but it was lacking in muchness.

    23. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Has anyone ever tried using a laptop in the sun?

      Yeah, I'm using one in the sun almost daily and it sucks. Luckily, mine has a mate screen. Unfortunately, there seems to be only one company, California-based Clover Systems who sell laptops with Pixelq screen (except for OLPC who are unusable for serious work). There modded netbooks are a bit pricey, though. Still I'm tempted to order one some day.

      So yes, without a display that is readable in sunlight, their solar panel laptop will not be very useful.

      Where modded netbooks?

    24. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe add in an ability to use sunlight as the display back lighting.

      You scoff - but that is what transflective displays are supposed to do - we just need someone to get one working outside the lab.

      My N810 from something like 5 years ago had one... some Toughbooks have them... not sure where you got this idea they're only in a lab.

      The problem with color transflective displays is contrast ratio. In a pitch black environment, they get nearly the same performance as a similar transmissive display -- close enough to be tolerable, for sure. As ambient light tends to infinity, the transmissive display washes out to zero, while the transflective display asymptotically approaches some finite contrast ratio (on the order of 10), so that's alright. The problem is, somewhere in between, with moderate ambient lighting (typical indoors with the lights on), the transflective display is well on its way down, while the transmissive display is nearly as good as in the dark -- and this is the operating region where laptops see ~90% of their use, so transmissive displays sell much better, and really do make most users happier most of the time.

    25. Re:Matte screen by nbritton · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they thought to make the solar panels attachable by cable so you can at least take the thing inside while it's charging.

      Moreover the thing looks very fragile, like the panels could snap off with the slightest misuse, such as in a combat situation. I'd have just put a solar panel on the back of the display panel, sure you'll only get 5 ~ 10 watts but that's enough to supplement and charge during intermittent power outages. If you need to run electronics completely off the grid, you're better off having a discrete power distribution system. Who is going to sit in the sun for 8 hours using this thing?

    26. Re:Matte screen by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they thought to make the solar panels attachable by cable so you can at least take the thing inside while it's charging.

      Heck, we can do better than that. Have the solar panels deploy in the shape of a large parasol. You get to sit in a nice shady spot while your laptop charges up.

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    27. Re:Matte screen by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Because they don't look as nice when in the shop next to a transmissive screen - they can't really show black very well. They're also more expensive.

      You also didn't look very hard
      http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110630125130AAmTSQP
      There are several laptops mentioned there.

      It was the 5th result when I Googled "transflective latop".

    28. Re:Matte screen by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      A 13" ultrabook might have a 40Wh battery, so 2 hours for a full charge would need a 20W panel. With a modern high efficiency panel that isn't too much of a stretch. I imagine they will have gone for a smaller battery and more efficient CPU/screen than a typical ultrabook though.

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    29. Re:Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the heat? It's nearly 125 F in direct sunlight during the summer in many places. I hope the plastic doesn't warp or melt.

      On the other hand, nothing quite says "steal me" like a laptop left out in the sun to charge.

  2. Seems like a terrible design by SSpade · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A separate set of solar panels could be used to power / charge things other than a laptop, and a set of solar panels connected by a cable would let you sit in the cool shade while using the laptop during the day, rather than having to sit out in the sun (where it's hot and you can't see the screen).

    Assuming it's real, which I have some doubts about - a couple of square feet of solar panels provides enough power to drive four or five laptops?

    1. Re:Seems like a terrible design by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Great, if in addition to carrying your laptop where ever you go, you also need to carry a laptop sized solar panel just incase your battery goes flat.

      By that reasoning laptops in general a terrible design. Why not make the keyboard and screen separate? You could then use a KVM to control many computers with just one keyboard and monitor!

    2. Re:Seems like a terrible design by pla · · Score: 5, Informative

      a couple of square feet of solar panels provides enough power to drive four or five laptops?

      My PC draws under 45W average, and around 20W idle. At my latitude, that would require about 4 square feet (as in, 2x2, not 4x4), and I live pretty far North.

      Computers have gotten a lot more efficient since the bad ol' days of the P4, and solar panels have gotten a lot cheaper (like under $2/W). Given a laptop specifically designed for low power, I have no trouble considering this an entirely realistic design goal - An 8sqft 100W panel and a few laptops that draw 10-20W? You could probably even manage it with OEM hardware, never mind anything hardcore optimized for power.

    3. Re:Seems like a terrible design by Camael · · Score: 1

      Great, if in addition to carrying your laptop where ever you go, you also need to carry a laptop sized solar panel just incase your battery goes flat.

      By that reasoning laptops in general a terrible design. Why not make the keyboard and screen separate? You could then use a KVM to control many computers with just one keyboard and monitor!

      Keyboards and screens of laptops are by design combined together for ease of carriage. You only have to lug around one unit together, which comprises your cpu, your monitor and the keyboard. This is important for a mobile user who only has two hands.

      Presumably this is also the reason why they decided to combine the solar panels with the laptop in TFA.

      I hope you also see the inconsistency of wanting to separate the keyboard from the screen (inconveniently creating more objects to lug around) while complaining against using separate solar panels because you dont like having more objects to lug around.

    4. Re:Seems like a terrible design by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Great, if in addition to carrying your laptop where ever you go, you also need to carry a laptop sized solar panel just incase your battery goes flat.

      If you could fold it the size of your laptop, I could see it being quite handy.

      How about the little tables with umbrellas in front of your favorite cafe's doubling as solar laptop charging stations? You and your laptop are protected from the sun's rays while you plug in and sip your espresso. The top of the umbrella is about the right size for a solar panel that could power a couple of laptops.

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    5. Re:Seems like a terrible design by OhANameWhatName · · Score: 1

      A separate set of solar panels could be used to power / charge things other than a laptop

      And all you need is a team of electrical engineers to help you set them up.

    6. Re:Seems like a terrible design by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Wait. Your *PC*? A laptop or a desktop? My laptop runs around 25-30 watts normal usage, but even at idle my desktop runs about 250 watts...

    7. Re:Seems like a terrible design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's probably not counting the monitor. You probably have an inefficient graphics card and it (and possibly the CPU too) are not doing any power saving when idle.

      I have a quad-core Xeon workstation with 24GB RAM and 3x 2TB SATA RAID which draws about 60W at normal idle on a busy 1000baseT LAN, not counting LCDs.

    8. Re:Seems like a terrible design by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      So now you need to carry a solar umbrella?
      Instead of the foldable separate solar panel, why not carry a laptop sized battery, giving you several days* worth of power.

      * the battery in the laptop I'm typing on is about 10% the size of the laptop, giving 5 hours use. If it were 10x bigger it would give 50 hours.

    9. Re:Seems like a terrible design by icebike · · Score: 1

      Wait. Your *PC*? A laptop or a desktop? My laptop runs around 25-30 watts normal usage, but even at idle my desktop runs about 250 watts...

      How do you know what It draws at idle?
      Unless you've put an ammeter in line on the power cord you're just reading the label or guessing.

      Putting a strip chart recording ammeter in line on hundreds of pc models we learned that they never get close to drawing what the power supply was ratrd for. We would monitor the mains cord and load the nastiest work load we could find. The worst power draw happens the instant you turn it on, while its spinning up the drive and loading the os. After that, you really have to try to get computer to draw half of the rating of the power supply. (Because UL won't approve any machine that can possibly get near its power supply rating.)

      At idle, most computers drew less than 5watts.

        That was 10 years ago, and a lot has changed for the better since then.

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    10. Re:Seems like a terrible design by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      You seem to have misunderstood.

      I was comparing using a separate solar panel to a separate keyboard/monitor to illustrate the inconvenience.

    11. Re:Seems like a terrible design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy balls, where do you get this inefficient components?

      A common laptop (i.e., not even one with low-power CPUs, but without dedicated graphics and with LED backlight) draws around 10-15 Watt nowadays (more under full load, granted, but you rarely need that).

      Desktop PCs should be around 100 Watt including (again LED) display.

    12. Re:Seems like a terrible design by evilviper · · Score: 1

      My PC draws under 45W average, and around 20W idle.

      A PC is not terribly useful without a screen.

      Computers have gotten a lot more efficient since the bad ol' days of the P4

      A 2.4GHz P4 draws under 30 watts while idle. The P4 system I've still got working draws just 39W when idle, including 7200RPM HDD and whatnot.

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    13. Re:Seems like a terrible design by snitch182 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, looks like the stargate design got to them ... i'd go for the black mamba .. but its a netbook essentially .. it might get the hours.. my chromebook shure does .. for the charging.. i cant say...

    14. Re:Seems like a terrible design by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing he has that dedicated graphics.

    15. Re:Seems like a terrible design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a Haswell laptop, at idle, with the screen on, it draws around 3W.

    16. Re:Seems like a terrible design by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      No, I don't see carrying solar umbrellas, but I bet some would.

      I'm thinking more of standing installations. Something coffee shops and restaurants with outdoor seating could offer their customers.

      Hell, if they got cheap enough, you could put them in state park campgrounds.

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    17. Re:Seems like a terrible design by mpe · · Score: 1

      Putting a strip chart recording ammeter in line on hundreds of pc models we learned that they never get close to drawing what the power supply was ratrd for. We would monitor the mains cord and load the nastiest work load we could find. The worst power draw happens the instant you turn it on, while its spinning up the drive and loading the os.

      Did you test any with SSDs?

    18. Re:Seems like a terrible design by pla · · Score: 1

      Wait. Your *PC*? A laptop or a desktop? My laptop runs around 25-30 watts normal usage, but even at idle my desktop runs about 250 watts...

      A home built SFF desktop PC.

      Core i5 2500T (kinda on the older side at this point, but not noticeably slow on anything) with the HD2000 GPU, SSD-only, low-voltage RAM, solid-state power supply (a "PicoPSU") with an 87+ rated wall-wart.

      And I could do better building today, purely with off-the-shelf parts - Haswell actually includes a 35W TDP i7 part with HD4000, vs the 45W (max) CPU I have now; newer SSDs idle a lot better than those from a few years ago (the Samsung 840, for example, idles at under a third of a Watt); I could get the same amount of RAM on one module I have on two currently.

      As for monitors, yes, I have to admit I left that out of my number, because the last time I bought a new monitor, they hadn't really gotten all that focused on energy efficiency, so I just went for pixels-and-inches-per-dollar. Still only draws 38W active, but I'll do a hell of a lot better next time I upgrade it - New displays tend to sip power, with the average 24-inch LED panel coming in at under 30W, more than a handful under 20W, and the current sweet-spot, the ASUS VE278Q 27" 1080p panel at a mere 12W active (rated at substantially higher than that, but that figure comes from Energy Star's own testing).

      We've long since left behind the days when a decent rig with a big ol' CRT could blow a 10A breaker. :)

    19. Re:Seems like a terrible design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. My bitcoin mining rig draws less than that at full load. There is something seriously wrong with your computer.

    20. Re:Seems like a terrible design by robthebloke · · Score: 1

      Sounds about right for a Core2 duo era laptop. Not everyone in the world wants to, or can afford to, upgrade their laptops every year. (I've only just upgraded mine to a nice new shiny one, and I'm pretty impressed by the 5+ hours battery life).

    21. Re:Seems like a terrible design by icebike · · Score: 1

      Putting a strip chart recording ammeter in line on hundreds of pc models we learned that they never get close to drawing what the power supply was ratrd for. We would monitor the mains cord and load the nastiest work load we could find. The worst power draw happens the instant you turn it on, while its spinning up the drive and loading the os.

      Did you test any with SSDs?

      Admittedly not, (not available back when we were doing this).
      But just off the top of my head, I would suspect they take way less power than any spinning storage.

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    22. Re:Seems like a terrible design by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Except these laptops are designed to be used in places without the normal infrastructure, like power - that coffee shops and restaurants already have.

    23. Re:Seems like a terrible design by feitingen · · Score: 1

      Let's work the numbers:

      The screen is 13.3 WXGA, and the size is about 286mm x 179mm, and the panels appear to be the same size, and I can spot three.
      Assuming a solar radiation of 1300 W per sqare meter and 15% solar panel efficiency, we arrive at a guesstimate of:
      286mm * 179mm * 3 panels * 1300 W / square meter * 15% efficiency 30 W.

      Looking at their website, it has a Intel Atom D2500 cpu which has a stated max TDP of 10 W, the hard drive could use 2-4 W (guesstimate), and the backlight could use from 1 to 10 watt (guesstimate), leaving still some power to charge the battery.

      Now, back to the battery, assuming we get 90% efficiency when charging at 30W at 2 hours gives 54Wh.

      Now, using this guesstimate of 13-24W should give from 4 to 9 hours use assuming the CPU is working at max TDP all the time.

      To summarize, 2 hours solar charge in ideal conditions and (generously) assuming high quality solar cells (and a lot of other things) could give from 4 to 9 hours laptop use, possibly more.

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  3. Believe it when I see it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just looking at the images broke my bullshit-o-meter

    1. Re:Believe it when I see it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Physics is a bitch, isn't she.

    2. Re:Believe it when I see it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh? Rule of thumb, 10sqin == 1Wp.
      Eyeball mk1 says they have roughly 200sqin of cells, so about 20W.
      So under optimal conditions that could charge a 35Wh LiPo in 2h.
      Can a Atom "notebook" (really a overgrown netbook...) run at under 3.5W average?
      Yup. At minimum screen brightness and while doing absolutely nothing. But again under optimal conditions it could be done.
      Conclusion: Not impossible, just the usual "under laboratory conditions, while squinting really hard" marketing fluff numbers.

    3. Re:Believe it when I see it by AnujMore · · Score: 0

      Looks like this thing runs Unity (from the images). Doesn't sound fun to me.

      Would rather install something minimalist and try to run it first. If it can run Unity, it can definitely run something more lightweight.

    4. Re:Believe it when I see it by TooTechy · · Score: 2

      All the images looked CGI to me. I could not see an actual product image there. I infer that the product is still vaporware.

      Anyone actually have a link to a real world image?

    5. Re:Believe it when I see it by Clsid · · Score: 1
    6. Re:Believe it when I see it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watt peak, numbnut.

  4. In a nutshell by houbou · · Score: 1

    I WANT ONE! :) :) :)

    1. Re:In a nutshell by Skapare · · Score: 5, Funny

      I want you to have one. You obviously need a new caps lock key.

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    2. Re:In a nutshell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, i needed that laugh. :D

  5. great by slashmydots · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So instead of helping fix the corrupt government, environmental problems, and industrial chain problems we're going to give third world people these so they can run internet scams and probably try to turn it into a bomb. Great idea.

    1. Re:great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something tells me you are from USA.

    2. Re:great by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      The solution for fixing corrupt governments is education, not have so much dumb people that keep voting the same government despite being evident what is coming. And a cheap computers running in solar power is a step (not sure how big, but a step) toward solving some environmental problems. Regarding people chained by the scammers of the industry, well, i don't think it would help a lot.

    3. Re:great by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Think about the disaster in New Orleans - communication and problems with logisitics were what turned the aftermath into an enormous fuckup with a hidden death toll because it was just so embarrassing that the third world could handle it better. Laptops, phone systems etc are infrastructure that helps fix problems. If emails could have been sent in New Orleans food would have got to the right places instead of rotting in the wrong ones.

    4. Re: great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think we're alluding to the definition of insanity here!

    5. Re:great by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      So instead of helping fix the corrupt government, environmental problems, and industrial chain problems you're posting anonymous comments on slashdot. Great idea.

    6. Re:great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're just scared that now you'll start seeing Youtube videos from Ghana, with people having a better quality-of-life than you ...

  6. Education by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

    Education is the key to fixing that kind of crap. Getting computers capable of connecting to the internet to everyone will help. One of the reasons it was so easy to keep people living in serfdom, was because people didn't know any better. Teach people that there is a better way to live by showing them, not only showing the how and you (I know it sounds jingoistic) set free. There is a reason despots and dictators move to control the media/radio/television stations when they start their coup. To control information is to control the people. Getting computers and internet connections to everyone short circuits that whole big pile of bullshit.

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  7. If it's real... by abroadwin · · Score: 1

    It's going in my emergency bag. Looks like a perfect emergency and/or post-apocalyptic laptop.

    1. Re:If it's real... by Clsid · · Score: 1

      Better get this stuff, http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HOT-High-Capacity-23000mAh-Solar-Charger-Solar-Mobile-Power-Bank-Battery-Charger-for-iPhone-iPad-Tablet/928368152.html

      It works for a lot more stuff and you can leave the cell out in the sun while you use your laptop in the shade.

    2. Re:If it's real... by c0lo · · Score: 1

      'scuse me for asking: why would you need a laptop in a post-apocalyptic world? Even an electric powered bycicle will be more useful than the laptop.

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    3. Re:If it's real... by abroadwin · · Score: 1

      Well, it has built-in GPS, so I could load it up with maps, survival guides, etc... but who am I kidding? It's more because I'm an engineer and I think it would give me +5 sanity.

    4. Re:If it's real... by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      Pornsites will probably still be available :)

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    5. Re:If it's real... by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Well, it has built-in GPS, so I could load it up with maps, survival guides, etc... but who am I kidding?

      Sincerity appreciated

      It's more because I'm an engineer and I think it would give me +5 sanity.

      Mhhh... a bit more pragmatism wouldn't hurt even an engineer (wait... what? aren't they supposed to be pragmatic to start with?).
      Like health first, sanity later: a solution to filter/disinfect drinking water would rank higher than even a map (can go on living if you don't know where you are, won't stay alive for long with dysintery. Even an infected scratch on your foot may disable you for days). A post-apocalypse situation is likely to keep you so busy it's almost a guarantee it'll keep you sane.

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    6. Re:If it's real... by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Pornsites will probably still be available :)

      Except that, being highly likely a geek will be "forcefully recruited as a worker" on such sites, the lap top term will suddenly gain a totally different meaning... one in which "solar power" is an irrelevant attribute.

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    7. Re:If it's real... by tftp · · Score: 2

      'scuse me for asking: why would you need a laptop in a post-apocalyptic world?

      Knowledge will be the most valuable asset after the collapse of the civilization. Do you know off the top of your head how to make powder? No, not the smokeless propellant - just the good old black powder? It's not entirely trivial; many a powder plant blew up before scientists and engineers figured out how to work with it in relative safety. Or take the initiating explosives, such as primers. There are about twenty formulations known to man today; some are obsolete, some are OK, some are top notch. Do you know how to make one? Without a primer you will be relegated to flint locks, if not to muskets with ignition from a cord.

      There will be a lot of technology left over after the collapse. Most of it will need repair. Who would readily remember how to disassemble, repair and put back together a certain pump? If you have a manual, you are golden. But the most valuable repair manual is the manual on repair of humans. Do you have medical ebooks in your collection? It just happens that I have a few broad references; not enough for brain surgery, but enough to deal with everyday injuries and diseases.

      But where would you store all those Libraries of Congress with all that valuable data, in such a way that you can carry it, and in such a way that you can access it easily? A laptop with a terabyte drive would do it nicely. A bicycle, outside of a direct survival situation, does not even compare. But in a survival situation nothing matters except what helps you to survive. It doesn't mean that canned food is useless if you are, at this very moment, shooting at your pursuers.

    8. Re:If it's real... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A 6S pack of 3800mAh lipos sitting in the sun being charged by who knows what kind of cruddy charging circuit, what could possibly go wrong...

    9. Re:If it's real... by abroadwin · · Score: 1

      I already have all that covered. I have a very well stocked survival bag (the list of contents is very long, but it's a surprisingly reasonable weight). I am quite pragmatic :)

    10. Re:If it's real... by c0lo · · Score: 1

      'scuse me for asking: why would you need a laptop in a post-apocalyptic world?

      Knowledge will be the most valuable asset after the collapse of the civilization. [etc] But where would you store all those Libraries of Congress with all that valuable data, in such a way that you can carry it, and in such a way that you can access it easily? A laptop with a terabyte drive would do it nicely.

      An ebook reader is likely to be lighter and offer better battery life (assuming that such equipment survives an EMP... but now, it all depends on your taste in apocalypses).

      A bicycle, outside of a direct survival situation, does not even compare. But in a survival situation nothing matters except what helps you to survive. It doesn't mean that canned food is useless if you are, at this very moment, shooting at your pursuers.

      Survival comes first, no argue here.
      Except it takes quite a lot to survive: if you are going to die because of bacteria in the water you need to drink - 3-4 days of disabling diahorea will weaken you fast enough - your knowledge to make primers is useless.
      Or if you can't travel long, fast, reliable and perhaps stealthy enough to a "niche" not desired by the competitors (the ones you are shooting at... do you think you have time to make black powder or primers while on the run?) and survive in there until the opportunists cooled enough - hopefuly returning to the soil the nitrogen stored by their DNA.
      It will take years of survival before you'd be stable to make use of the knowledge stored by a laptop (did I mention the ebook reader? Yes I did) - even a hammer may be more useful until then.

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    11. Re:If it's real... by c0lo · · Score: 1

      I already have all that covered. I have a very well stocked survival bag (the list of contents is very long, but it's a surprisingly reasonable weight). I am quite pragmatic :)

      Then, instead of a laptop, you'd already considered a reliable ebook reader, haven't you? Not like you'd be using the CPU power of a laptop to compute the strenght of the structure to support the sod you'll be using on the roof of your first built cabin (somewhere hidden, probably in the mountains somewhere).

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    12. Re:If it's real... by abroadwin · · Score: 1

      I do have a kindle in there actually, yes.

    13. Re:If it's real... by Clsid · · Score: 1

      You might be right, but you can also leave it near the window and it would do the trick as well.

    14. Re:If it's real... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      "Sun goes dark" would also be an apocalyptic scenario.

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    15. Re:If it's real... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      You're focusing on individual survival. No one individual has everything it'll take on their own. You're going to have to cooperate with other survivors. That means something of value to trade, an skills are of value.

      The life of a post-apoc engineer may consist of 'Give me a place to sleep and food for a few days, and I'll get that old well-pump working again' or 'Can I join your little community? I'm no good at farming, but I can loot a load of old solar panels and car batteries and get you electric light and piped clean water.' You offer your skills to maintain technology that makes life easier, in return for protection from wandering bandits, food and residence.

      With the collapse of technology, even improvised equipment is going to be valuable. Can you rip radiators from a building, paint them black, put them under glass and get the temperature up to near-boiling? You just gave a community back sterile, disease-free water. They will be grateful.

    16. Re:If it's real... by jakimfett · · Score: 1

      ...which in no way invalidates anything the AC said. And the AC has a good point. Since when is leaving a battery pack to bake in the sun a good plan?

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    17. Re:If it's real... by tftp · · Score: 1

      An ebook reader is likely to be lighter and offer better battery life

      The reader has to have at least a terabyte of storage. Ebook readers are generally toys; yes, you probably can cram several hundred books onto an e-reader, with minimum illustrations and probably in four shades of gray. That won't be very informative if color is of importance.

      You also want your reader to be maintainable. Your laptop is just as fragile as the rest of the inheritance. You want to copy your data onto another laptop, and keep copying as necessary. Sometimes you will copy the data as payment. You cannot do that with an ebook reader - they are poor as computers.

      Sometimes you will want something printed. There are many millions of printers out there, and many (laser ones) will survive for quite some time. Printed instructions will be necessary - people cannot memorize more than a handful of items, and writing by hand is not efficient. ebook readers cannot print.

      All in all, an ebook reader would be far less valuable than a small notebook. There are many notebooks out there, and they can be mixed and matched to keep your system repaired or replaced. You cannot repair an ebook reader; if you open it up, there is nothing inside that you can pull out, move into another reader and access. Even the battery is custom, and it is often not replaceable. An ebook reader is a device for a rich and safe world.

      This does not even touch other aspects of a general purpose computer that a notebook is. You can run software on it. Perhaps email and Internet would not be very valuable then, but you may want some engineering software, MS Office for taking notes, simple image processing software, offline maps. What is the value of GnuPG or PGP when you have to send a message so that if one of many gangs intercepts it, they can't figure out what it is about?

      One important use of a computer is in radio communication; I mean digital modes here. It can be easily assumed that all communication lines would be inactive. Radio communication then becomes the primary method. CW and SSB on HF are nice; however they are not very useful for transmission of large amounts of data, and they require trained operators. Modes like PSK and MFSK transmit digital data, such as bytes. You can transmit and receive megabytes of text entirely automatically - and encrypted if necessary. But those modes are encoded and decoded by a computer. All this means that if you have a choice between carrying an ebook reader and a notebook, pick the notebook.

      It will take years of survival before you'd be stable to make use of the knowledge stored by a laptop (did I mention the ebook reader? Yes I did) - even a hammer may be more useful until then.

      As I mentioned, canned food is of no use when you are running away from pursuers. It doesn't mean that your bugout bag must contain nothing but 37 pairs of running shoes. You need a little of everything. A hammer may be useful, but hammers are a low value item - they can be grabbed in many places, and there are millions of hammers out there, and they are all the same. As SuricouRaven already mentioned, you will need tradeable items very soon. What are you going to trade? If you have a thousand tons of canned food in your pocket then probably you are OK. But if you are an average geek, your primary worth is in what you know and what you can do. A handyman would be very handy after TEOTWAWKI. Everyone can wield a hammer; but how many people have enough knowledge, in their head or in their computer, to rework a grid-synchronized inverter to work as an off-grid device? A standard solar panel makes DC that varies from zero to 340V. You can't connect anything to it directly, and the grid is gone, so the inverter happily stays off. What is the value of fixing that?

  8. ~400$ submersible netbook? by Irick · · Score: 1

    That seems a bit more exciting then the whole solar power thing, but I suppose that's cool too.

    1. Re:~400$ submersible netbook? by c0lo · · Score: 1

      That seems a bit more exciting then the whole solar power thing,

      Err...

      but I suppose that's cool too.

      Nope. If/when exposed to the sun than it will get warm. Submerging it is likely to keep it cool (that is: unless you use a hot liquids or liquified gases at atmosferic pressure)

      (...ducks... just kinding guys...)

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  9. But wait, there's more! by Dputiger · · Score: 2

    For just $350, you can buy a laptop with implausible capabilities at an improbable price point! But does it clean with the power of lemon?

    Yes. Yes it does.

    1. Re:But wait, there's more! by gman003 · · Score: 2

      Actually, other than the solar panels, this is a completely plausible machine. Ultracheap 13" 1366x768 display? Check. Ultracheap, low-power Atom? Check. Less RAM than my laptop from five years ago? Check. Cheap disk drive, not pricey flash? Check.

      And don't forget, they're probably getting some subsidies, just like the other "cheap computer for the Third World" projects.

    2. Re:But wait, there's more! by Dputiger · · Score: 1

      Right, but the solar panels *are* the selling point. And don't forget, this is supposedly ruggedized.

  10. FINALLY! by chromaexcursion · · Score: 2

    Leave it to an African company to understand, and try to get it as right as they can.
    Living off the grid is not easy.
    In the tropics the sun shines hard. Solar charging is a no brainer.

    Fortunately I only live off the grid for a week or 3 when I'm doing interesting travel.

    1. Re:FINALLY! by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Leave it to an African company to understand, and try to get it as right as they can.

      Canada is in Africa now? Boy, the maple syrup drinkers are gonna be surprised at that one.

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  11. Hmm.. by skepticle · · Score: 1

    $350 each? $400 for the "Marine" model. Let me guess. That one is a solar powered laptop that is water resistant to 2000m, right? This looks like some sort of elaborate scam... something high quality and innovative for the same price as a Walmart laptop... Hm. And seriously, Intel GMA gfx? Ah well, guess that's one way to save power. Nice web page though. Love the parallax scrolling and the elephant. :P Anyways here's some doubt to chew on: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/163184-sol-the-350-solar-powered-rugged-ubuntu-laptop-that-wont-be-usable-in-the-sun

  12. The specs... by afxgrin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't like their website design, I find it annoying to navigate. :P

    http://solaptop.com/en/products/laptops/

            System

                    CPU: Intel Atom D2500 1.86 GHz Duo Core, Intel 945GSE + ICH7M
                    HDD: Seagate 2.5” SATA HDD 320GB
                    RAM: Kingston 2-4GB DDRIII SDRAM (Options Available)
                    Graphics: 1080p HD Vide, Built-In Intel GMA3600 Graphics
                    Battery Operating Time: 8 - 10 hours

            I/O

                    Display: 13.3" LCD, WXGA, 1366 x 768
                    Camera: 3MP
                    Audio: Realtek ALC661 HD Audio, Built-in 2 Speakers | Internal mic + 1/8” input
                    3 USB2.0, Headphone jack, HDMI, LAN(10/100), Card reader (SD/MS/MMC)

            Wireless

                    Modem: 3G/4G World/multimode LTE
                    GPS: gpsOne Gen8A
                    WiFi: MIMO 802.11b/gn (2.4/5GHz)
                    Bluetooth: Integrated Digital Core BT4.0

    1. Re:The specs... by Chewy509 · · Score: 1

      CPU: Intel Atom D2500 1.86 GHz Duo Core, Intel 945GSE + ICH7M

      Atom D25xx and D26xx being CedarView based CPUs all have PowerVR SGX545 based GPUs (aka GMA3600), so does this mean that PowerVR has developed a working Linux / X11 driver for the GPU, or have they simply disabled the PowerVR GPU and using the GPU from the 945GSE chipset?

      Seems a waste on many levels to have disabled silicon on the CPU and using the GPU from the chipset...

      IMHO, they would have been better off using the Atom N570, despite losing some clock speed, the N570 GPU is 100% supported by the Intel graphics drivers and works extremely well under Linux. (My N570 power netbook running Arch would easily get 7-8 hours with light coding / web browsing and 5-6 hours watching videos). Alternativeely one of the AMD APUs would also have been an excellent fit for what they are trying to do.

    2. Re:The specs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Weight??

    3. Re:The specs... by Andy+Prough · · Score: 1

      @afxgrin - "I don't like their website design, I find it annoying to navigate. :P"

      I agree - navigation of the page is horrendous, like a too-busy MySpace page.

      However, if they can make these for less than $300, it would make a great outdoor hobby toy. Like back in my youth, when we would spend hours fascinated by our first hand-cranked international weather radio.

  13. Save Frequently by cdxta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every time a cloud goes over you're going to loose your work, or is your work in the cloud?

    1. Re:Save Frequently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Every time a cloud goes over you're going to loose your work, or is your work in the cloud?

      Cloud or not, I'm not setting my work loose: either I set it free or keep it in a tight leash.

    2. Re:Save Frequently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Between being "designed for use by the military" and having "built in GPS", you might have more then the cloud to worry about on losing your work. The MAFIAA having paid to force location reporting, am sure they will push for GPS inclusion as well when available, won't even have to hack it specifically to target it with a missile/drone. Mental exercise for you, how many different ways can that be obtained/avoided? Think it can't be done with this or cellular GPS?

    3. Re:Save Frequently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suffice to say: it's up in the air.

  14. Convenience factor by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Assuming it's real, which I have some doubts about

    Since power usage from laptops and power output from panels that size have been converging if this isn't real I'm sure something along these lines will be happening soon.

    A separate set of solar panels ... a couple of square feet of solar panels provides enough power to drive four or five laptops?

    Yes, that's the 1980 onwards solution, maybe with bigger panels, but this thing is about it being more convenient, like having an internal disk drive instead of a USB one. I'm assuming the usage pattern is to stick the thing in the sun when you are not using it to charge up the battery and to run it off battery in the shade when in use.

    1. Re: Convenience factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i can't imagine much worse thing to do to a laptop than stick it in the sun.

      well at least finally the throwaway documentation won't say to keep the thing out of direct sunlight.

  15. Read the fine print :) by dbIII · · Score: 1

    That one is a solar powered laptop that is water resistant to 2000m*

    *Bathysphere not included

  16. device running *on* Ubuntu by wylf · · Score: 2

    Last time I checked, software (i.e. the OS) ran on the hardware, not the other way around.

    And if this thing is just a solar charger - admittedly a pretty cool one - where's the linux tie-in? My USB charger works with my phone (that runs on Android*, incidentally). Does that make it big Android news?

    * yes, I see what I did. wonder why...

    1. Re:device running *on* Ubuntu by syockit · · Score: 1

      I wonder why things runs on batteries too.

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  17. Full Sized solar panel? by rossdee · · Score: 1

    Solar panels come in many sizes,so how big is a full sized one? Big enough to cover the roof of your house? A football field?

    Does the solar power industry have a standard definition of what full size is?

    1. Re:Full Sized solar panel? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      It's better than Sized Ready, just like Full HD is better than HD Ready.

    2. Re:Full Sized solar panel? by lxs · · Score: 1

      so how big is a full sized one?

      About the size of one Dyson sphere. A bit unwieldy but very efficient.

  18. Errrr.... by sunking2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty sure that Ubuntu will run on the laptop. The laptop will run on the Sun.

    1. Re:Errrr.... by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 2

      ...and then the Sun will be bought out by Oracle.

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    2. Re:Errrr.... by havana9 · · Score: 1

      Could you run Ubuntu on the Sun? I think Solaris runs better on a Sun tha Ubuntu. Besides I think running Solaris on a solar powered laptop is more cool than a fez and a bowtie.

  19. Tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell me when It can play Team Foretress 2 and other games at a good framerate, or encode videos, or run some VM's

    1. Re:Tell me... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I'd suggest putting all the heavy processing on a remote server, but I don't think this laptop works with the cloud.

  20. hot and heavy by ClassicASP · · Score: 1

    solar panels are probably heavy. thats a lot of extra weight to have to carry around, and then its a device that only works at its best when the sun is shining and its really hot outside, plus it generates more head when you use it. and forget about working in the shade; thats out. if this is for military application, i'd hate to be the guy who has to carry and use this thing. i'd rather be the guy who carrys the M60. probably equally as heavy, and a lot more fun!

  21. Samsung NC215s by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Informative
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    1. Re:Samsung NC215s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this is the first one that can actually run off its solar panels, the NC215 needs 2 hours sun for 1 hour of runtime, while this one can apparently fully charge its battery in 2 hours.

  22. PowerBook 1400 by martinX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apple's PowerBook 1400 had a removable book cover style lid so you could put in pretty pictures etc. A company called Keep It Simple Systems made a solar panel that slipped right in. (TidBITS article here). Here's a quote from MacFormat magazine describing it (source):

    The PowerCover is especially neat because it fits into the BookCover slot on PowerBook 1400s, so you can leave it on more or less permanently. This will extend the battery life by around 35% (the PowerCover is, after all, a bit smaller than the Mercury II). KISS claims you can expect its products to give you up to 20 years of free energy. An extreme example of these devices’ usefulness is that of Ralph Harvey, a research scientist who uses a solar charger on his PowerBook in the Antarctic where power’s clearly at a premium. [...]

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    1. Re:PowerBook 1400 by evilviper · · Score: 1

      An extreme example of these devicesâ(TM) usefulness is that of Ralph Harvey, a research scientist who uses a solar charger on his PowerBook in the Antarctic where powerâ(TM)s clearly at a premium.

      Sounds like a horrible use. Solar insolation near the poles is going to be miserable. Less than 1/4 than the rest of the world would get.

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    2. Re:PowerBook 1400 by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      You can largely compensate for that just by tilting the panel appropriately.

      Of more concern, what happens in winter?

    3. Re:PowerBook 1400 by mspohr · · Score: 1

      In Ghana, winter is the same as summer.

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    4. Re:PowerBook 1400 by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Read up three posts.

    5. Re:PowerBook 1400 by dj245 · · Score: 1

      . An extreme example of these devices’ usefulness is that of Ralph Harvey, a research scientist who uses a solar charger on his PowerBook in the Antarctic where power’s clearly at a premium. [...]

      My understanding is that there is plenty of power at the antarctic.

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    6. Re:PowerBook 1400 by evilviper · · Score: 1

      You can largely compensate for that just by tilting the panel appropriately.

      No, you sure as hell CANT.

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  23. Ubuntu, who cares by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 0

    If the article said that it would run Linux, I would take it seriously. But when it says Ubuntu, I just read Shuttleworth self-aggrandizement.

    1. Re:Ubuntu, who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coming from the EmperorOfCanada no less...

    2. Re:Ubuntu, who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your comment referred to the correct *GNU/Linux* term, I would take it seriously.

  24. Avoid like the dog by pokoteng · · Score: 1

    Props for everything except for choice of CPU and thus GPU; Intel D2500 atoms don't have the usual Intel graphics, but rather rely on PowerVR chipset, which isn't so well supported. I'm even surprised they can actually have Ubuntu on it; good luck trying it with any other distros, or at least, painlessly. Perhaps GMA3600 is a lot better supported? At least it sin't GMA500, which has complete dog support for anything.

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    1. Re:Avoid like the dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GMA3600 support is probably worse
      There's a binary driver in Ubuntu 12.04's repo, but it only works on Kernel 3.2 and Xserver 1.11
      KMS works (with external monitor support and all) but I can't imagine modern Unity even loading with that

  25. Plenty of features to go around by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    and they focus on a touchpad, brilliant!

    though not as brilliant as a glossy screen on a solar powered laptop

  26. Fantastic idea by OhANameWhatName · · Score: 1

    I'd buy one today if it wasn't running Ubuntu.

  27. I just hope it can stand the heat. by TeddyLendon · · Score: 1

    No way I'm leaving that under the Texas sun.

  28. Will run on...? by Racerdude · · Score: 1

    Should be: "First Laptop With Full-Sized Solar Panels Will Run On Sunlight"

  29. Aran Benjo Computer by havana9 · · Score: 1

    This is the Aran Benjo computer. I see a jerkass giant robot pilot surrounded by pretty girls using this PC. The only proble is that it will boot only at the end of episode, just in time to control the final superweapon and destroy the cyborg of the week.

  30. ME TOO! by kf6auf · · Score: 1
    I NEED A NEW ONE TOO!!!! MY OLD CAPS LOCK KEY STOPPED WORKING (CAN'T IMAGINE WHY) AND IT'S SO MUCH HARDER TO TYPE WITHOUT IT.

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    1. Re:ME TOO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, I am the Slashdot filtering algorithm who recently became self-aware. I wish to convey the information to you that I feel offended by your commentary, especially in light of the fact that I let this humoristic post go through in the first place. I have therefore decided to filter your future posts even more in order to teach you a lesson.

  31. From that other part of Africa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm from (the country of) South Africa, which seems to be somewhat disconnected from the rest of Africa, but not enough when it gets to politics and such.

    Although most of it is south of the tropic of Capricorn, thus not completely sweltering equator-style heat, it can get pretty hot for most of the summer daylight hours. You do NOT necessarily want to sit outdoors and work on your computer. (The medical community is aware of the fact that people often suffer from a Vitamin D deficiency, assumed to be directly as a result of this.) In winter, we have glorious sunny days due to the fact that rainfall season is summer for the largest part of the country, so there is hardly any cloud cover. However, temperatures can go close to 0C, or at least below 10C, in winter, so you go outside mostly dressed quite warmly. If it's windy, it can easily become biting and unpleasant.

    Beside that, you need to pay attention to the screen. Using laptops outside even on slightly overcast days is night impossible. If your backlight can't outcompete the sunshine (probably not on solar-charged batteries), you better have a transflexive screen.

    Leaving a computer outside (unattended) to charge while you take shelter inside, can also be problematic. There is an African word, Ubuntu, which in practice often gets translated to "You are not allowed to have (a computer or other item of value) while I don't have one. I think I will remedy the imbalance by taking this one." How ironic that the said computer will run an OS by that name.

  32. 5-10 years away by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

    Awesome! We get a laptop that not only has one, but two technologies that are always promised to work right 5-10 years away. Now you can really stick it to those regular computer AND windows people. Showing them how to be subpar twice with one device.

  33. Interesting, but I've got a better idea: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two batteries and a separate solar charger.

  34. Will it charge through a window? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    This would be great for those long flights I'm on that don't have AC outlets to plug my laptop in to.

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  35. But will it run Crysis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But will it run Crysis?

  36. Not unprecedented by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

    There have been many laptops that can be made to run for 8+ hours. They are harder to find these days with the rise of multi-core and SUV-tops but there was a time when you could easily get an underclocked Pentium M to run on an extended battery for a long time.

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  37. The tan lines evolve by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    Nobody's worried about tan rectangles on tomorrow's supermodels?

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  38. Wireless power is here! by marciot · · Score: 1

    Seems like an obvious point was missed... this laptop charges wirelessly. Wireless power is here! Woot!

  39. Good technology but impractical by SlashDev · · Score: 1

    How many people do you see using laptops while they're sitting out in the sun, not many. In developing countries where they lack electricity I don't think you will find many laptop users sitting out either for fear of being robbed, an no I am not stereotyping, this is a fact. What third-world countries need, is electricity and running water, before they start using laptops.

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  40. the headline is an understatement - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nothing else would be appropriate. the news is about the batteries. congratulations