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Elementary OS 0.2 "Luna" Released
First time accepted submitter kazade84 writes "Over the weekend the Elementary team released the stable version of Elementary OS, codenamed "Luna" which is based on Ubuntu 12.04. The new OS features an entirely custom desktop shell called Pantheon which has been developed from scratch using Vala and Gtk+ which allows for fast apps with a small memory footprint. Elementary OS has been years in the making, and the team have documented the process in their latest blog post."
I don't understand why everyone is making such a huge fuss about this. Do so many of us really desire an OS X themed window manager?
Yet Another Linux Distro Based On Another Linux Distro.
*yawn*
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
So what's in there which isn't in Ubuntu?
Judging the book by the cover, it looks like someone thought this new cool programming language of the week was the most awesome ever, wrote a few wrappers to some applications, and released it as a new distro.
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Can't you guys just let us have a menu where we can select a program from a list of all the ones already installed and let us put our crap on the desktop?
Every GUI OS designer wants to present stuff stylishly and enforce some good file housekeeping paradigm, must of us users just want to be able to select (not find) our installed programs and store files were we expect them.
Screen organization and the other stuff of elementary is nice, if you are going to be inspired by Apple, include letting us put stuff on the desktop and give us a thing like "applications folder" were we can quickly browse installed programs.
"Enjoy what you're doing! If it becomes drudgery, you're doing it wrong!" - Jim Butterfield
Why not release pantheon as a package for any old ubuntu user who wants his computer to look like a Mac? Do they plan to contribute such a package upstream?
All I see is another attempt to set up yet another "app store" with a bunch of bullshit jargon about being "faster and more lightweight". It's still just ubuntu and x-windows, but with worse support and a fairly useless and uninformative website (obviously not reaching out to technical users).
If they want to clone MacOS, they should start with Darwin, and go from there. ReactOS is more interesting to me than this.
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That is all....
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
You copied OSX.
How do I dual boot with Ubuntu ..
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Time for my occasional rant on grids.
Grids are terrible for displaying sorted lists of item collections. Almost all of the time, we sort a collection along a single dimension; a grid positions items across two dimensions, but that second dimension holds no information about the sort being performed. If you have more than a few items, your brain has to bounce back and forth and conform to the line breaks that the computer has chosen in order to find items in the collection. Displaying a collection in a table with each collection item taking up one row and attributes of that item can be displayed in table fields (a.k.a. columns) allows for easier, more intuitive searching of the list based on those field values. It also leaves plenty of room for textual display, which fits quite well in a long, horizontal space.
Grids of icons have been a blight upon GUIs for decades. Why do they persist?
I believe there are 269 patents on the Aqua interface elements. If you are right, given they sell this distro for $10, they better hope they are never successful enough to get noticed.
Methinks someone needs to learn the difference between an OS and a Linux distribution.
So what do you think the Apple lawyers will think of this release? Especially since they are selling this "OS"
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If everything worked out of the box, now that would be revolutionary. I'm still struggling to get integrated webcams and broadcom wifi drivers working on some older platforms.
It's not just the docks behavior or the slightly less similar menu bar across the top. They actually went so far as to copy expose functions and the music player looks exactly like the version of iTunes before the most recent update, even the file browser is an obvious and direct clone of the Finder. For crying out loud, the default wallpaper that the video starts out with is even the default wallpaper in OS X. And all that just from the video. Since I'm going to install it, I'm willing to bet the similarities don't even come close to stopping there. I am really super surprised at what a brazen OS X clone this is, even shocked they would go this far.
With all that said, and myself as someone who is a long time dedicated Mac user, I think it looks really freaking cool! I have been waiting for something like this and will be giving it a spin today. As someone who is also a long time Linux user, I'm about as excited as a six-year old on christmas morning to play with this new distro. Now if only I can drop that interface onto Slackware.
Also, as I scroll down their page, even that flows and looks exactly like an apple website product page, even the navigation bar at the top comes close to a clone of apple.com - interesting. They should steer this in the direction of making it a platform that integrates with Edge, much like iPhone (disclaimer: I use an Android) is integrated into Apple's platform. Anyway, going to download and install now, hope it lives up to what they are advertising.
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you guys have absolutely no respect for the work done by the community. it is fine to come out from under the rock with an OSX shell clone and rebrand an entire Linux distribution (ubuntu) as something else. however it is NOT fine to spam the community with your rebranded distro. guess what? if you guys really had something that people wanted, word would go around at the speed of light and people would use your distro at their own will.
[i am a developer in two big opensource projects and one Linux distribution, i am posting as anonymous because i don't want these guys to bother me]
Considering that there is nothing in the style (ie it doesn't even have the "traffic light" button arrangement) that is a direct analog to Apple OSX, nor any applications named in such a way that could confuse users (ie Music is as generic as one can get for a player, and is nothing like calling it iTunes etc), I don't think they have any ground to stand on. Apple may try to litigate everything under the sun, but for the moment simply having a dock and clean design isn't exclusively the purview of Apple. There are tons of far more "OSX-like" visual styles for both Windows and Linux, and thus far Apple has been unable to squash even the most popular of them - thankfully.
ElementaryOS may be developed to fill some of the same design needs as Apple, but does it in a suitably unique way that demonstrates it is a Linux distribution wholly divorced from Apple. I should also mention that they aren't "selling" the OS so much as they are asking for donations. There link right next to the donate button allows you to download for free.
Depends what editor pushes out a story. Your UID is low enough to know this already. Where have you been?
Remember roland p.? BSD? Phil plaitt? Nortel? The year of the linux desktop? The Taco days?
Astroturfers and FUD?
I shouldn't have a lawn yet...
Ever notice that Cobra Commander sounds an awful lot like Star scream?
I thought it looked like Gnome 3, with maybe a custom dock they've written.
A top status bar, zooming windows, GTK3 and otherwise featureless design, that must be Gnome 3 right? At least it looks pleasing.
I'm not too familiar with the Apple OS so I don't get why everyone jumps on it and say this copies Apple. I don't give a shit thanks. A bar on top, well, it was copied in the 1980s by the Atari ST and Dosshell already and the dock, a bunch of icons, available before OSX.. who gives a shit?
I'm waiting for LXDE-Qt, now using a boring-looking Xfce 4.8, I'm not into the GTK3 stuff much but it doesn't hurt me too much some people are playing with it.
Totally thought this was pony related until I read it.
Whenever a player quits EVE to go play WoW, the Average IQ of both games increase.
Another Linux distro is launched. What news!
13.04 is only supported for NINE MONTHS. 12.04 is long term support, and is supported until 2017. 13.04 introduces the new policy of only 9 months support instead of 18 for non-LTS releases. It makes them pretty much nothing more than toys.
Nobody in their right mind would base anything on any Ubuntu releases except for the LTS releases.
I see two common trends to the comments here:
1) Only negative comments, not a single positive comment about this distro.
2) Not a single person appears to have actually used it.
I'd be very interested in an old-school, actually informed comment from someone who has actually installed and used it.
-astro
I've been using it since I made the original post and it really is a big accomplishment. If I ever went back to using Linux full time, this would be my choice. There are a lot of naysayers here who haven't even taken the time to try it. Download it, fire up VirtualBox, run the ISO as a virtual live DVD, and be impressed. Interestingly enough, it even has drivers for every last little bit of hardware on my MacBook (yes, even wifi). I'm going to be installing a dedicated install on my Win 7 laptop and use it for the next week (except when I need to use my OS X only software), and see where things go. Maybe I'll write a review. Anyway, go for it, it's not like anyone here doesn't know how to get it up and running in a VM in five-minutes. Also, it's been amazing to watch people here (of all places) trash something just because it's a Linux project. Whatever happened?
Finally, to those who are upset that they are calling it it's own OS, do we not also refer to Android as it's own OS? So far, this appears far enough outside the norm of common distros to give the developers some room on this.
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It doesn't matter whether you agree with the logic or not. When you make your own Ubuntu derivative, you are welcome to irrationally base it on a target that moves every six months and gives you only a couple of months to re-base every time it moves.
No, this is /. still. There are users and comment threads, but I'm pretty sure it's still mostly asocial like most of the users. At least it isn't antisocial media. Do you like /b/s?