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Linux 3.11-rc7 Release Celebrates 22 Years of Linux
An anonymous reader writes "It was on this day 22 years ago when Linus Torvalds humbly announced Linux and today he played on that in announcing the Linux 3.11-rc7 kernel release. The final Linux 3.11 kernel release is expected in about one week."
This year is the year!
Linus was humble once?
Meanwhile Windows has gone from Windows 3.11 to 95, 98, __, 2K, XP, 2K3, _______, Windows 7 and finally Windows 8 and each and every time made huge progress!
Linux? Same old login prompt!
JK. At least my comment is better than the two first ones.
I think the Linux kernel development team have slightly higher standards than Microsoft.
Linux is the operating system of the people. This alone justifies its existence.
I think its about time that Linux was adapted for Workgroups. How anyone could justify releasing version 3.11 without them this late in the game is something I just cannot fathom.
It was 22 years ago today that Linus Torvalds last humbly announced anything.
Buy better hardware...
# touch universe # chmod +rwx universe #
A bit pointless right? For all purpose such a video can be straight out of the camera.
Anyway, these days we use Kdenlive for video editing.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
And how much software for other os is there that is no longer maintained?
At least with the sourcecode you have the option of maintaining it yourself... If you choose not to take advantage of that option, then you are never any worse off than the alternative.
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Nor does he do anything else humbly. He's too busy trying to be the biggest asshole he can be to do anything humbly.
Hey, at least they're making progress. 13 years ago Windows was up to 2000, now they've gone all the way down to 8. That's 1992 versions! At this rate they'll hit zero in just 19 days.
You are sorely lacking in the history department of Linux Video Editors.
Kino was originally developed with only DV editing in mind. It grew to be pretty usefull, but around the mid 00's, the main developers (Charles Yates and Dan Dennedy) realised that the basic foundation of Kino would never accomodate anything besides a clip-oriented DV editor. They therefore wrote the MLT framework (http://www.mltframework.org/) that is a powerfull (open source) multimedia framework, which is used in TV productions, and is the basis of several open source video editors, most notable Kdenlive and OpenShot. (See list here: http://www.mltframework.org/bin/view/MLT/Projects).
Dan Dennedy decided to keep Kino "alive" as it is usefull to some people, but not do any further development on it.
Dan Dennedy still maintains MLT and have contributed to several of the MLT related projects. Kdenlive is a powerfull NLE video editor that can do most of, if not all, that the very expensive tools for other platforms do. In some cases way more. (And, yes, it runs under Gnome or other desktops, you just need the KDE libs)
It is unfortunate that people keep referencing Kino. No new development have been made on it for literally years, and e.g. Kdenlive are much, much more powerfull.
(On a side note, it is also unfortunate that so few people know of the massive amount of work that Dan Dennedy has invested in to Video editing on Linux. Besides Kino and MLT, he has been heavily involved in the Firewire/dv1394 drivers of the Linux kernels, and it is amazing how much he has contributed).
If you want to see Kdenlive related videos, search for kdenlive on youtube. Tons of people have made videos with Kdenlive.
Disclaimer: I have contributed code and translations to both Kino and Kdenlive. I belive I may even be listed as one of the authors of Kino (or at least was at some point).
A lot of the times no longer maintained could stand for 'Project is stable enough'
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Sometimes a version number is a version number and not an association of a long defunct product.
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LOL, yeah, that is why Linux doesn't' exist on the desktop. I use it all the time at work for projects but it stopped being a personal desktop for me roughly 6-7 years ago... maybe longer, can't remember anymore. I stuck with OS/2 until 96-97 too so it isn't like I don't give alternatives a chance past their obvious primes. My first Linux installation was Slackware 2.4 and the last one I personally used was Ubuntu X.X. Luckily Apple took FreeBSD and made it very usable and so I have a MBP now. I have a Nexus 7 though so I can claim to still be a Linux user.
When I type uname -r on my Ubuntu install here it says kernel version 3.5.... what gives?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Well I don't know what you are doing wrong, but it is definitely something. I have been using Mandrake->Mandriva->Mageia Linux, as well as several other distros and I can count on one hand the number of problems like this I have had in the last 7 years or so, even if I lop all my fingers off and my thumb.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
A significant number of people have problems "with Windows" when it turns out to be a matter of the user doing something wrong too. What's your point?
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Concurred : I spent the last seven years on Debian, all upgrades went without a hitch, all my software needs being covered many times over.
Also, I have been working full time for over 3 years with an eee pc, which is close to unusable under Windows, and quite pleasant with linux.
Linux will never reach year of the desktop even with this kernel release coming up. In a lot of ways Linux right now in various distro's such as Ubuntu and variants like it kind of remind me of the Windows 3.x and 95 days. You might have decent driver support for most hardware but come time to upgrading the kernel more often then not you break the official closed source nvidia drivers along with your nice GUI boot screen that usually hides all the normal boot messages from the kernel as it's loaded up until you see your fancy login screen. Same goes with the god awful support of AMD video support in Linux both with official and open source drivers and more often then not your network and ow wi-fi settings might be hosed or you may not even have the WI-FI driver needed and then it's a mad dash off to the official Ubuntu forums for help.
And applications need to be improved too in some area's. There's really only one half assed decent CD/DVD/BR burning program and thats K3B that actually won't produce messed up unreadable discs. Wheras in Windows you have the excellent free CDBurnerXP or if you like bloatware "one does it all" package the commercial Nero Burning rom. Video players in Linux suck too when you don't have much choice been mplayer and it's front ends and VLC. Gnome Mplayer as a front-end example can't even jump to a specific point in hours, minutes, or seconds in a video if you want and won't allow you to save bookmarks.
VLC on the other hand DOES allow you to jump to a specific time, but it sure as hell can't save bookmarks at any point in a video until you use a workaround of saving a bookmark into a playlist file, and not too mention that when playing audio files VLC will absolutely ignore embedded artwork in say Ogg Vorbis and FLAC files and by default will try and download cover art that's garbage in quality or completly wrong.
When in comparison to windows xp/7/8 you have K-lite media codec pack and the great Media Player Classic HC (MPC-HC) that not only has more modern video renderers such as Haala and MadVR but can also use newer LAV audio/video decoders for much better picture and sound quality compared to VLC, and if you don't want to use LAV decoders you can use ffmpeg included with k-lite instead and STILL get better picture quality. Oh and also no problems playing DVD's either when even with restricted-extra's packages in Ubuntu and variants and some other stuff installed to play dvd's you still find the occasional DVD that will not play because of it's copy protection garbage.
Image viewers and editors aren't much better. Irfanview and Xnview are great to use but all you have with Ubuntu is the newer XnviewMP (Multi-Platform) which is really the only decent image viewer on Linux these day's that isn't retarded. For editors sure you have GIMP on Windows, Linux ETC but Adobe Photoshop still has a fair amount of features that GIMP doesn't have. Audio players in Ubuntu suffer too when the only decent audio player is Audacious but in comparison to Foobar2000 on windows which does so much freaking more it's like night and day.
Overall in a lot of ways windows has better apps in some areas or has more development in some area's towards audio and video quality in playback. It's just that for the most part a lot of people are dumbasses and don't take precautions of running ONLY Firefox as a browser with Adblock Plus, Noscript, Cookie Controller, Ghostery (or DoNotTrackMe if you prefer) and Socialfixer (to fix whats annoying as hell on facebook) and don't actually read each popup from an installer asking if you'd like to install "X toolbar" or "X program" and automatically default to YES until you click no or refuse to avoid getting malware and viruses and browser hijackers simply because people are too stupid to read and in a hurry to always click through every screen. That and people who still to this day launch attachments from emails.
Linux is no better either these days with some newer malware packages showing up and with all those so called wonderful Linux help
You must master your joystick like a fisherman masters bait! - Gimpy
Strongly disagree. Maintenance isn't just about fixing bugs - it's also about making sure the damn thing keeps running after the environment changes. Newer toolkits, libraries, heck various distro changes can result in an unmaintained project not even compiling anymore without changes, which may or may not be trivial. Maintenance ensures said project can survive while everything changes.
In Windows, maintenance isn't so important because Windows is extremely capable in terms of backwards compatibility. Linux is not quite as capable because of the availability of source for most of its software, as there's an assumption that a recompile is enough in most cases when running on newer distros. But things change enough that maintenance is still an important part, particularly for open-source software. A project without maintenance is something you should stay away from if you think you'll be using it for the long term.
One example : user installs Debian, can't see the wifi networks. What did he do wrong?
Exactly. You obviously agree with my. As another example. A user installs Windows. He can't see the WiFi networks. What did he do wrong?
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
The Windows user can fix it himself by double-clicking a setup.exe stored on a CD-ROM or USB stick, provided by Broadcom or TP-Link or D-Link etc. ; the Debian user needs sysadmin skills , wired connection to the internet and knowledge about what a "firmware blob image" is.
Buy better hardware...
That doesn't always work. If you buy a better sound card, you will get worse linux drivers, as ALSA devs are busy supporting Intel HDA and Realtek ALC instead.
No. They cannot. They don't know what a device driver is, in fact. They don't know how to verify if they have a hardware issue or a software issue. They just know "the damn thing isn't working! They have no idea what wireless networking is, except that they know they can connect to the intertubes.
... and the Microsoft Server 2012, Windows 7, Windows 8, etc. "user" (i.e. sysadmin) needs the same sysadmin skills. Again, you have shown where the user is ignorant, and that ignorance has bit him in the ass. He is trying to play system administrator sans the qualifications necessary to do so. If he wants to try his hand at Linux system administration he could use a distribution that is designed for a "user" (i.e. sysadmin) of his skill level. For example, Mandriva and Mageia cater to the newbie crowd quite well. They are but two distributions that will handle all the tasks you mentioned for you quite well, and have GUI interfaces for everything you want to do, including setting up a DNS Server, etc.
In fact, a good distribution like Mageia is easier to install and configure than Windows, and I mean by a long shot. If you have trouble believing that then you have never seen a typical user try to install Windows. I have never seen a user who could do it correctly.
How do I install a LAMP stack on Windows? I couldn't possible answer that in this post. How do I install a complete LAMP stack in Mageia? Simple: Open a konsole using the menu, type su - followed by the enter key, and enter the password to become root, then do urpmi tsask-lamp. In case you missed it, that was the complete instructions to install an entire LAMP Stack in one sentence. Sure, there are some "packages" you can use for Windows, but lets look at the first FAQ I found. What? I'm a friggin user! How do I know if I have Service Pack 2, whatever the hell that is? I thought Firewall was a movie with Harrison Ford! What the hell is a port? WTF!:
I have helped many, many people switch to Linux, and with one exception they all thanked me time and again for helping them get away from Windows and its complications. The one exception's objection? Somebody told me hackers use Linux! You installed it! Your a hacker! Get it off my system right now! Translation: He was a complete moron.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun