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Xbox One's HDMI Pass-Through Can Connect PS4, PCs and More

MojoKid writes "The Xbox One has both HDMI-in and HDMI-out capability. The point of HDMI-in is to allow you to hook up a cable box, with output then running from the Xbox One to your television. As it turns out, however, that's not the only thing the Xbox One can do. Since the HDMI-in port is a standard option, it can accept video input from a PS4 and also accept a video stream from a PC. According to Xbox senior director of product management, Albert Panello, "any application can be snapped to a game... this could be the live TV feed, so if you wanted to play Ryse and Killzone (a PS4 exclusive), you could snap that." Keep in mind, snapping a title to the Xbox One doesn't mean that you can actually keep using Xbox One controllers in the game. If you want to snap in a PS4 game, you still need PS4 controllers. If you want to hook a PC into the Xbox One's video output, you still need mouse and keyboard, though if the Xbox One's controllers are eventually PC compatible, then you might be able to use the same controller on both platforms without doing much more than flipping a switch."

171 comments

  1. Non story by OptimalCynic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Socket accepts plugs it's designed to accept. What's the story?

    1. Re:Non story by OptimalCynic · · Score: 3, Informative
    2. Re:Non story by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      It really -is- a story because it isn't monopolistic by design. I saw a show on public tv about stocks and the broker was saying how Microsoft was still in a good position because they had Office software that was completely inoperable in other platforms which forces you to buy Windows. That surprised me because they are planning Office on Apple, Android and Libre Office is usable as a replacement ( you see I didn't say compatible ). It seems that even brokers don't understand that Microsoft must eventually compete on a less slanted playfield in order to survive and I don't think they can do that without completely cleaning house ( beyond Ballmer ) and bringing in outside management from a company like Coke or Pepsi that understands a competitive market.

    3. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The NSA has access to the XBOX, so now they can watch what you are watching?

      (In that case, would be a crime to watch a "Keeping up with the Kardashians"-Marathon if the NSA-Agent commits suicide...?)

    4. Re:Non story by ze_jua · · Score: 1

      Plot-twist : it has an implementation of the not-yet released HDCP3.7HD. You can plug only another Xbox One. A security flow allows you to plug the Xbox360.

    5. Re:Non story by girlintraining · · Score: 0, Troll

      Socket accepts plugs it's designed to accept. What's the story?

      The story is that the XBox violates the HDCP standard to do this; It has to decrypt protected content, in order to display it. There's three ways they could have done it; Analog conversion somewhere in line, a signed key for a device which essentially does the one thing HDCP was supposed to never allow, or they hacked the protocol / used unpublished knowledge. Either way... When the XBox launches, someone's going to take it apart, and then encrypted HDMI can bend over and kiss it's curvy ass goodbye.

      Oh, right... marketing blurb. Right, was supposed to focus on that instead. Sorry slashdot... I forgot you aren't a geek site anymore, just a pile of paid advertisements posing as stories.

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    6. Re:Non story by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      They only did it to get the little badge.

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    7. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      God you are an idiot.

    8. Re:Non story by asmkm22 · · Score: 1

      Any point you were trying to make was wasted with your melodramatic hyperbole at the end there.

    9. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As far as I can tell, the story is that Microsoft is trying to find ways to get people to buy the Xbox One.
      This story describes how to use the Xbox One as a $500 HDMI switch to stick between your $400 TV and your $400 PS4.

      However, they note that most TV's already have built-in HDMI switches, and even if your TV doesn't, you can go buy one for $20. And either way, you'll get better performance than using the Xbox One as an HDMI switch.

    10. Re:Non story by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't actually violate the standard.

      The standard is there to prevent unauthorised data retrieval from the stream.
      E.g. encrypted video in, unencrypted video out perfect for dumping to a file.
      You can be sure that Microsoft is keeping the output protected so it doesn't infringe on the input video's protection at all.

    11. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you trolling or what? I guess my receiver violates the hdcp standard, too? Pass-through IS a part of the standard, derp.

    12. Re:Non story by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      HDCP is already busted and has been for years. As if it mattered, because the only things worth protecting with it (HD movies) are already decryptable straight from the disk.

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    13. Re:Non story by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      Holy Shit? It's illegal to decrypt protected content, in order to display it? My TV is breaking the law!. And every HDMI compatible TV I've ever seen!

      Or, you are an idiot that may have had a valid point regarding intermediate decryption, but it was lost in your hyperbole and overstatements.

    14. Re:Non story by weharc · · Score: 1

      I had to check the comments to validate that I wasn't having a stroke or had left my brain at home. I couldn't work out why it was a story either.

    15. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're either an idiot, or are just playing one.

      The Xbox one ADDS content and functionality to the stream.

      So you can Skype alongside your fav TV show (popular for sporting events), or play your fav game on xbox, while keeping an eye on a tv show, or watching the progress of a large copy operation in a side-view... The point is, the xbox isn't being an HDMI switch, it's a content-enrichment tool... unlike yourself, since you're just the regular kind of tool...

      -AC

    16. Re:Non story by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Logic fail. Nothing was broken. You do realize you can pass an encrypted stream through another device right?

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    17. Re:Non story by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft has consistently screwed the pooch on UI design and you are going to let the run the whole show? Silly.

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    18. Re:Non story by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 3, Informative

      That surprised me because they are planning Office on Apple

      Planning? Office for Mac has been around for around 24 years.

    19. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because I like the idea of being able to, for example, have Skype sessions open with my Fantasy Football League-mates while we're all watching the games, and monitoring our teams... :) ...and I'm also looking forward to finding out what other similar kinds of enriched media / content I can finagle in addition to the above :)

      -AC

    20. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      E.g. encrypted video in, unencrypted video out perfect for dumping to a file.

      What good does any of this DRM garbage do? I mean, DRM can't do any good, but even if this method stopped people from dumping files 100%, there are plenty of other ways to get movies, so this is just pointless.

    21. Re:Non story by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      You are correct, I was confused about a story I read here about Office on iPad. When I checked it seems there are far more options than even I was aware, like iWork, QuickOffice, DocsToGo and others.

    22. Re: Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not that I'll ever buy a console again, but the story here is that it was released recently, that what you can do with in game footage snaps and video on your XBox1 console will be restricted to gold account holders. I think.(?) I know it isn't standard, non XBox Live account holders.

      So the XB1, will accept ANYTHING into it video-wise, but doing what you want after the fact with such snaps, videos, etc... beyond the console itself, and anything Internet related is tightly controlled.

      Not real surprising, what I would say is fairly hipocritical of microsoft, but it's funny that they think this is somehow beneficial to the customer, or that restriction was what customers wanted.

    23. Re:Non story by blacklint · · Score: 3, Informative

      And was released over a year before Office for Windows.

    24. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The Xbox one ADDS content and functionality to the stream.

      Bravo, sir. That's the funniest thing I've read all week. :-D

    25. Re: Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +5 funny

    26. Re:Non story by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 1

      I was expecting this to be a link to the story about Apple cutting off support for 3rd party cables that were designed to work with their products.

    27. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read maybe 1 in 20 Slashdot stories, yet If there's one thing I can be sure of, it's that you'll have posted some ignorant bullshit in a comment on it. I can only assume you do this to every single story. Yet nothing you post is ever correct in any way. This has to be deliberate because I can't believe any human being can be so wrong all the time yet so sure of themselves.

      What the hell is the point of your posting? Is it some elaborate troll? Seems like a lot of work to pretend to be that stupid.

    28. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, really! Is it news that a device has a working video input now?

      My new laptop has an RS232 connector. Why was this NOT in the news? (Also has USB ports which will allow you to plug in USB devices which will, potentially, allow you to use several different devices with the same laptop!!!!)

    29. Re:Non story by msauve · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "God you are an idiot."

      If you're an atheist, you're confused. If you're religious, you're in trouble.

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    30. Re:Non story by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

      The story is that the XBox violates the HDCP standard to do this; It has to decrypt protected content, in order to display it.

      Is this really a violation of the HDCP standard? Then why does my TV do the same thing?

      The point you are missing is that you can decode HDCP in order to display it legally, but you cannot then write the unencrypted stream to disk or pass it on unencrypted without telling the HDMI input that such a thing is possible. Providing the XBOX One tells any device attached to the HDMI input whether or not the HDCP path remains secure everything is fine legally.

      This means that even if they do ship a program that allowed you to record video from the HDMI input they would just have to tell the other device by turning off HDCP and falling back to unencrypted HDMI, the other device could then refuse to play the content down an unencrypted HDMI connection if it was BluRay or whatever HDCP is supposed to protect. It might well simply turn off HDCP then function perfectly normally though it many cases such is if you are trying to watch an unprotected source like an unencrypted DVD or output from an HDMI camera.

      Even if you are watching a protected source thought it could keep HDCP enabled and act as a pass-through device providing it was not allowing you to record the video stream. HDCP allows many devices to do this already such as AV receivers that need to decode the stream in order get at the audio to send it to speakers but then also send the parts of the signal they are not interested in on to the display.

      Either way... When the XBox launches, someone's going to take it apart, and then encrypted HDMI can bend over and kiss it's curvy ass goodbye.

      Go read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

      It seems that there are quite a few approaches to cracking HDCP already so pulling apart an XBOX One is a waste of time. Of course the value in HDCP though is that it prevents anyone from legally mass marketing a recorder that will circumvent it (Intel will sue you into oblivion), not that it is technologically perfect.

      Oh, right... marketing blurb. Right, was supposed to focus on that instead. Sorry slashdot... I forgot you aren't a geek site anymore, just a pile of paid advertisements posing as stories.

      Fine, you hate slashdot so much then just stop coming here. Nobody is forcing you to post here, you choose to. Choose to do something else instead that you enjoy.

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    31. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The story is that the XBox violates the HDCP standard to do this; It has to decrypt protected content, in order to display it."

      The XBox doesnt display anything, the TV does. The XBox just sends the signal or passes/routes the signal from the HDMI "in". Why the hell would the XBox need to decrypt it?

      Youre an idiot.

    32. Re:Non story by girlintraining · · Score: 1, Troll

      Holy Shit? It's illegal to decrypt protected content, in order to display it? My TV is breaking the law!. And every HDMI compatible TV I've ever seen!

      Holy shit, it's Wikipedia to the rescue! SWOOSH! Appearing in a flash of googling, it smashes, it bashes, and it makes a mean soup du AK Marc!

      And the main use of HDCP? Wait for it guys... "Encryption of the data sent over DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI, GVIF, or UDI interfaces prevents eavesdropping of information and man-in-the-middle attacks." ... And what's The XBox doing between your PS4 and your TV? Being.. maybe... in the middle?

      Good day, sir. May you continue to be up-modded for being a complete moron, and may the moderator who up-modded you perhaps manage to grow a brain.

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    33. Re:Non story by twotailakitsune · · Score: 1

      Record the content? I think the Xbox1 lets you record on the xbox. So maybe you can record the input also?

    34. Re:Non story by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      (from your link) "The system is meant to stop HDCP-encrypted content from being played on unauthorized devices"

      You are asserting that XBO is "unauthorized".

      I'm asserting that you are wrong.

    35. Re:Non story by petteyg359 · · Score: 1

      The only people affected by DRM are the paying customers

      FTFY. The last time I paid for a Blu-ray movie, it wouldn't play on any of my computers with Blu-ray drives. Are you going to say I have to spend a full month or two of income on a TV and ANOTHER Blu-ray drive (one that doesn't even support data discs or burning from my computer)?

    36. Re:Non story by girlintraining · · Score: 0

      You are asserting that XBO is "unauthorized".

      No, I'm asserting that XBO is performing an operation that HDCP was specifically designed to prevent. If the XBox can decrypt content, it can alter it, with no way for the receiving device to detect this. Now, I'm aware that HDCP is a steaming pile of crap designed solely to screw consumers out of the ability to hook a DVR up to an HDMI output and make legal time-shifted recordings, but that's the intended effect, not the design specification.

      If the XBox is ever compromised, then the HDCP chain is broken; It will allow anyone to record HDMI content. And given its advanced graphics processors... it is quite possible that sufficient compression, etc., could allow it to be streamed out to a consumer HDD for later transcoding. In other words, the XBox could be the perfect TiVo if it ever got hacked. Which is the one thing the designers of HDCP wanted to avoid.

      And I have yet to see Microsoft create a product that wasn't compromised in under a year.... which means, as far as content producers are concerned (RIAA, MPAA, etc.), this should be DEFCON 1. This is great news for consumers; but it's not obvious why.

      Oh, and I'm not asserting that you are wrong; You simply are.

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    37. Re:Non story by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      No, I'm asserting that XBO is performing an operation that HDCP was specifically designed to prevent.

      You are asserting that you don't know what HDCP was designed to do. My Onkyo stereo decrypts, and unpacks HDMI, then processes it, and re-packs and encrypts it for transmission to the next hop in the chain.

      That's what HDMI is designed to allow, and that's what XBO is allegedly doing.

      By your reckoning, every receiver capable of the same is "illegal". I'm happy for you to persist in your delusions, but I want to clarify so anyone reading your insane ramblings doesn't get the wrong impressions of HDMI.

      And HDMI is already broken. You can buy decoders on the open market. http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/11/25/1859240/350-hardware-cracks-hdmi-copy-protection

      You manage to be wrong on every point (demonstrably so), yet persist in insisting you are right. You should seek mental help. You are obviously broken.

    38. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well THERE'S your problem... you still buy media. :) I buy games on Steam because it's a snap to install them and get them running. I buy comics / graphic novels / toys from a local game shop because I support it AND because I've got a membership good for 20% off list price. I buy music of bands I genuinely like and want to support. I download all visual media because of DRM / compatibility / price issues. I download full albums of music that is new to me because of the same issues. I will continue to do all these things until I have an **incentive** to change.

    39. Re:Non story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop mansplaining to her you fucking evil white cis hetero patriaaaaaaaaaaaaaarch!! /s Carry on, sarcasm delivered. -10,000 rating incoming. Bring it, white knights...

  2. But it adds lag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, not so good for a lot of games. Fine for TV, fine for your Powerpoint, but games not so much.

  3. How is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Video in port doesn't care what video is being displayed. Pictures at eleven.

    1. Re:How is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, this would be interesting if you could process the input in some form in the Xbox. I have no idea what (except recording, which is probably strictly forbidden) one might want to do, but someone might have a good idea in the future.

    2. Re:How is this news? by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      I remember E-mailing Sony years ago when the PS3 was announced and suggesting (as I'm sure others did as well) that they include HDMI switching because multiple HDMI ports were not common at the time.

      If you're going to include HDMI pass-through, why not have four HDMI inputs and allow quick and easy switching, maybe with picture-in-picture or all four arranged together at once, and offer users something they don't already have as well as the convenience of not needing another switching device?

      This base pass-through feature seems like a gimmick for controlling TV only.

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  4. So what. by kamapuaa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is one of the most trivial articles I've ever seen on Slashdot.
    XBone lets HDMI input pass through it for all sorts of HDMI devices, no just cable boxes.
    So what.

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    1. Re:So what. by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      This is one of the most trivial articles I've ever seen on Slashdot.

      You must not come to Slashdot very often.

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    2. Re:So what. by OptimalCynic · · Score: 1

      No, he's right. Even by Slashdot's standards this is bad.

    3. Re:So what. by msauve · · Score: 4, Funny

      But, by timothy's standards, it's pretty good.

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    4. Re:So what. by davester666 · · Score: 1

      It's surprising, because historically, Microsoft doesn't play well with others, particularly direct competitors.

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    5. Re:So what. by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      HDCP requires end-to-end encryption, and has the entire weight of the MPAA member legal departments behind that restriction. MicroSoft just gave them all the finger.

    6. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the Xbox becomes the decrypting side to the PS3, and sends it to the TV in a separate end-to-end encryption? Not that much of a crack really and they probably just payed the license to be a decrypting end like TVs do, if there's such a thing.

    7. Re:So what. by cheater512 · · Score: 2

      HDCP will definitely be enabled on the output as well.
      That means it is working by design, you still can't get an encrypted stream.

      Another very common example, audio amplifiers with HDMI.
      They need to decrypt the stream to extract the audio then send it on.
      That is fully allowed by HDCP as long as it sends it on also with HDCP.

    8. Re:So what. by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      HDCP requires end-to-end encryption, and has the entire weight of the MPAA member legal departments behind that restriction. MicroSoft just gave them all the finger.

      not really a pass-through doesn't need to see what its carrying so it could remain encrypted until it gets to the tv

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    9. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, but not so much as these guys: HD-Fury

      Who've been selling their HDMI/HDCP circumvention devices in North America for years already, and in so-doing, they've been figuratively and literally giving the *AA cartels the finger for quite some time before now ...

      -AC

    10. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it does come shortly after a story about Apple devices not accepting power from competitors power cables...

    11. Re:So what. by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I still can't decode it. What does "snap" and "snapped to a game" mean?

    12. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, do not follow console news, and found this quite interesting. hdmi in was not something I expected. my television and computer don't see eye to eye if the tv is on, so connecting via passthrough for a quick how to or map check is a useful feature.

      also, my tv sucks balls. upgrading the computer video driver makes it permanently wrong, not just when the tv is already on. so I don't know which to blame. I'm sure you care. but fix the tv and stop whinging is not the solution necessarily.

    13. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HDCP requires that compliant devices not pass HD video to non-compliant devices. That's all. The XBox is free to decrypt it and do whatever it likes internally as long as unprotected video doesn't get out. Not that it matters. HDCP has been broken for years.

    14. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XBone? Is that some sort of medical term?

    15. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like their nicely crafted marketing speak that is technically correct but would make the average consumer think they can upgrade any TV/projector/whatever to a full 1080p HD display. http://www.hdfury.com/no-hdmi-no-problem/

    16. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HDCP has been completely broken ever since the master key leaked anyway. You can probably buy some dirt cheap device from China to disable it.

    17. Re:So what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still can't decode it. What does "snap" and "snapped to a game" mean?

      It's picture-in-picture, but because Microsoft thinks they invented it, they took a common word and used it as the trademark name. It's predicted that by the year 2050, there will be no words left in the dictionary for Microsoft to trademark.

    18. Re:So what. by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      So I can't plug my old 3.5mm speakers into a TV to see HDCP protected content?

  5. Receiver by swaq · · Score: 1

    I don't see how this lets me do anything that my receiver doesn't. Plus my receiver has 7 HDMI inputs instead of just 1...

    1. Re:Receiver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xbox supports snap, so it's saying you can snap your Xbox ones Skype or what ever along side your PS4 or PC display

    2. Re:Receiver by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Whatever the hell that means. Snap? Like my fingers?

      After some Googling, it looks like "snap" is kind of like picture in picture. Whoopdee do.

    3. Re:Receiver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xbox supports snap, so it's saying you can snap your Xbox ones Skype or what ever along side your PS4 or PC display

      I could snap my fingers all day while working out to Sweatin' to the Oldies, but that still wouldn't make this news.

    4. Re:Receiver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What does snapping mean? Is this another one of those MS terms like the Zune's "squirt?" I still don't know what squirt means in that context either, and it's been like, what, a decade now?

      So I guess in 2023 someone's going to be saying the Microsoft ... (hey, what's a "cool" letter like X or Z? Let's try V) a Microsoft Vroomer will let people Snore their 4D videos, and someone will ask WTF "snore" means, and some asshole like me will explain we still don't know what squirting and snapping are, and now the kids these days are snoring.

      Seriously: Fuck. This.

    5. Re: Receiver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Squirt is copying a file between devices using short range wireless (Bluetooth or wifi maybe?). Snap is putting two windows side by side, terminology is from Windows 8.

  6. 2 Port HDMI Switch by profplump · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't understand why there's a story about a video device including a 2-port HDMI switch. Your TV probably has a much larger one already, and if it doesn't you can buy one for like $9 from Monoprice. How is this news?

    1. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Xbox One's killer feature is that it allows you to use other consoles.

    2. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The news is it's another Microsoft attempt at keeping you inside their ecosystem.

    3. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by fermion · · Score: 2
      I think MS wants us to believe that Xbox one can be their central switch of the living room, just like the A/V amplifier used to be. It is standard with MS type hardware. We have more ports than anyone else, so we are better.

      This would tend to prove the idea that MS thinks control of the living room is the primary goal. Simply being hooked up to the ztv is not enough. All content must flow through the XBox.

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    4. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on, you can do better than that! RTFA. Or even the summary.

    5. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      Because it's not a 2-port HDMI switch. It's a fully-decrypting HDCP receiver; note the mentioned usage of grabbing input and inserting it into a game, not just passing it through.

    6. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well socialized, non-autistic spectrum human beings refer to that as a "joke".

    7. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      The only positive thing out of this is it allows you to game PS3/4 on one half while skyping with Mom on the other half of the TV. But Mom usually hangs up when you start shouting at the game.

    8. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's not a 2-port HDMI switch. It's a fully-decrypting HDCP receiver; note the mentioned usage of grabbing input and inserting it into a game, not just passing it through.

      You mean like picture-in-picture? That's been around for 30 years and isn't uncommon with HDMI. Oh, they called it snap(TM). That makes it special.

    9. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by adolf · · Score: 1

      It is standard with MS type hardware. We have more ports than anyone else, so we are better.

      Which MSFT hardware has "more ports than anyone else"?

      Certainly not current-gen hardware, nor the generation before that. So what, then? Please be specific.

    10. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well socialised human beings don't use autism as an insult

    11. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought jokes were supposed to funny?

    12. Re:2 Port HDMI Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's okay. Everyone who posts to Slashdot is borderline autistic anyways, so we have "a-word" privileges.

  7. My god! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    It's what few dared to dream of: they've replicated the TV/VCR button!

    1. Re:My god! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All hail Microsoft for they have invented the square wheel.

    2. Re:My god! by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Yes, but who will give us the square wheel with rounded corners?

  8. If the xbox one dies on release... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... does the hdmi still pass through surround sound?

  9. Can. But shouldn't by EdZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was later clarified by Penello that the latency of the HMDI input would be too high for gaming, and using it to pass the PS4's (or any other console, e.g. 360) output is not recommended, presumably because of the overlay. Odd, as my AV receiver can overlay it's UI with no more than 1 frame of delay, but if it was only intended for overlaying of TV, then MS may never have bothered to optimise it.

    1. Re:Can. But shouldn't by lgftsa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The intent may be to introduce a delay in the other consoles' UI responses.

      When a non-tech user buys a competing console in a year or so, and it's easier for them to daisy-chain it through the xbox than hunt around behind the TV, it may be enough that they tend to play the xbox more than the new console because it's more responsive and gives a better gameplay experience.

      Too paranoid? Check out the cryptographically signed charging cables from Apple, and then try to persuade me otherwise with a straight face. <sardonic grin>

    2. Re:Can. But shouldn't by coolsnowmen · · Score: 4, Informative

      Input lag has been non-trivial for a while now. One of those non-marketable numbers so not all TV manufacturers spent time on them.

      I remember it was impossible to play certain fast paced games on 1st Gen DLPs ( Car racing games).

    3. Re:Can. But shouldn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What kind of idiot would connect their PS4 through the XBone anyway? If you do that then you need to have both consoles on when playing the PS4.

    4. Re:Can. But shouldn't by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      You're saying that Microsoft considered the number of people who would buy an XBone first, manage to hook it up by hunting around behind the tv, then purchase another console, and decide not to hunt around behind the tv, find the lag annoying but not too annoying to search online for answers, and as a result spend less time online with the competition, will bring in more money than whatever it would take to optimize the pass-through.

      That they balanced the choice of fixing or not fixing, and it was these few people who swayed the decision.

      It's more likely that a fundamental re-design would be needed, and that tiny number of people wasn't enough to make it worthwhile.

      This explains why Apple would sign charging cables. Just search for "apple charging cables fire" for more. They cut the price and have a trade-in program to try to get rid of all of the counterfeits. Signing alone might have been suspicious, but there are pretty good reasons, like not setting your customers on fire.

      You should feel badly about what you wrote. Not "death in the family" bad, but maybe "farted in the elevator with that dude or chick I was going to chat up and it smelled like burnt sick" bad, or "I thought your puppy was a rat so I kicked it to death but it survived and your vet bills are going to be ridiculous" bad.

    5. Re:Can. But shouldn't by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      This [dailymail.co.uk] explains why Apple would sign charging cables.

      AIUI with the apple stuff you have a "wall wart" power adaptor which has a USB A socket on it. Then an apple cable with a security chip inside which goes from the USB A socket on the wall wart to the lightning connector on the device.

      It's the bottom of the barrel wall warts which are dangerous peices of shit, so if you use a non-apple wall wart with an apple cable you would still be at risk and would not be blocked by apples crypto crap while if you used an apple wall-wart with a non-apple cable you would be blocked by apples crypto crap even though you were not at risk (or at least not at anywhere near as much risk as with the dodgy wall-wart).

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    6. Re:Can. But shouldn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1 frame is still considered high in gaming circles.

  10. i.e. by Guy+From+V · · Score: 0

    The Xbox One is an HDMI splitter.

    1. Re:i.e. by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      ... a slow HDMI splitter.

  11. And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And how is this supposed to motivate us to by an XBone/Big Brother Box?

  12. Pray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, no. I still don't want to be an xboned one when microsoft alters the deal.

  13. Real story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it work when the Xbox is off?
    Does microsoft snoop on the data passed through?

    1. Re:Real story? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Does microsoft snoop on the data passed through?

      You are automatically subscribed to the Customer Experience Improvement Program which sends the full HDMI data stream to Microsoft.

  14. Snapping! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is bullshit. "if you want to snap in a PS4 game". This is beeing explained in a way that makes it easy for non-tech gamers to misunderstand and think that the Xbox ONE can play PS4 games or that you can use your PC apps on you Xbox ONE. Which of course is false.

    If this kind of trickery is all Microsoft has to contribute, then it is obvious that they know that they have lost the console wars to Sony. End of story.

    I look forward to a snapless PS4 experience.

  15. Exciting news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coming up next time on Slashdot, USB port accepts USB controllers.

    1. Re:Exciting news by MachDelta · · Score: 1

      ...but only ever on the third try.

  16. so, for those who don't know like me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the heck is "snap"?

    1. Re: so, for those who don't know like me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After searching since it wasn't explained in the summary or article, it allows you to switch sources or have them side by side as far as I gather... so the benefit of this with hooking a PS4 or PS3 in seems pretty pointless... or am I missing something other than the ability to daisy chain two HDMI devices into one port should that be all that's free on your TV or receiver?

    2. Re:so, for those who don't know like me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It might have something to do with "squirting".

    3. Re: so, for those who don't know like me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Newer versions of HDMI allow you to send other data so i'm guessing (its a console so im not interested in RTFA) it allows you to pass controller data to/from the other device. If not I dont know.

  17. Stereo! by DogDude · · Score: 1

    That's a really nice feature. That'll allow one to run video to a TV, and stereo to a stereo. After all, who wants to use crappy TV speakers if you're doing HD stuff (games and movies)?

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  18. Centering a 720p image by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    Touching the topic, let me ask a video question that I have been wondering for a while. My challenge to you is to find a way to center the 720p image from PlayStation 3 to a 1366x768 screen. My display only supports scaling the image to full screen. Are there external video processors (probably expensive solution) which have this feature, or possibly other solutions to the problem?

    1. Re:Centering a 720p image by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

      I have a DVDO Edge which can do this. You set the output resolution to something fixed and set the scaling (and other settings) for each input individually. You could presumably get the exact scale you're looking for with a test pattern and tweaking. I don't recall if there is a shortcut to what you want but I wouldn't be surprised.

  19. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I buy game consoles to play games.

    And whoopee doo, a HDMI device works on a HDMI plug....

  20. you missed the point by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a great feature for people too stupid to just use the other HDMI input on their TV.

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    1. Re:you missed the point by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is a great feature for people too stupid to just use the other HDMI input on their TV.

      My TV only has one HDMI input - and my receiver has two. (Not everyone has whatever you have.)

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    2. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HDMI switches are available from DX at $9 and up depending on features.
      So it is an affordable solution if anyone ever needs one.

      BTW My $130 TV has 2 HDMI, 1 VGA and 1 Component/S-video. It probably uses the mux chip as the switch.

    3. Re:you missed the point by AK+Marc · · Score: 0

      My receiver has 4, my TV has 3. And there are HDMI switches out there that could be used that are much cheaper than the XBO

    4. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I just love wasting money on garbage.

    5. Re:you missed the point by dywolf · · Score: 1

      cause every tv has more than one...

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    6. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't dismiss it so immediately. Given that an Xbox One is a much more advanced piece of hardware than a TV, I'm guessing that there's some neat stuff which can be done by adding the Kinect's voice/motion controls and/or the console's controller to the mix. Whether you think these things are a worthwhile improvement over using a standard TV remote, that's entirely up to you. I, for one, look forward to any opportunity to avoid touching something with an order of magnitude more buttons than it needs.

    7. Re:you missed the point by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

      And there are HDMI switches out there that could be used that are much cheaper than the XBO

      Somehow I doubt that the point is for somebody to go out and buy an XBox when they need an HDMI switch. The idea is that if you've got an XBox and a shortage of ports, you don't have to go out and buy an extra switch.

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    8. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, not everyone scrapes the bottom of the bargain barrel to buy a shitty TV.

    9. Re:you missed the point by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      This is a great feature for people too stupid to just use the other HDMI input on their TV.

      How many TVs out there let you see the content of both HDMI ports simultaneously?

      When you "snap" the TV view, it shows side by side your game so you can see both at the same time.

      Not many do, and if you're waiting for your game to load (xbox or ps4), you can snap and play the other while waiting. Or if you're waiting for your friend to get on and log in, no one said you can't play a quick game on the other port while waiting.

      If Sony was smart, they'd put a mode that lets you see your friends on PSN that works well in "snapped" mode so you can monitor your friends list while waiting and playing something else.

    10. Re:you missed the point by Blakkandekka · · Score: 2

      Kinect isn't only for changing channel, the point is to collect audience data. Think about it: Kinect knows who's in front of the screen, their gender and approximate age (maybe even their race), who's awake, who's shuffling and bored, who leaves the room and at which point in whatever it is they're watching. If MS know who's signal is going through the box then there's a lot of valuable audience response data that production companies currently pay to research right there. If MS goes into production a la Netflix they'll have a lot of big data on tap to guide their commissioning. MS won't need to bother with focus groups any more.

    11. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you already did...

    12. Re:you missed the point by donaldm · · Score: 1

      How many TVs out there let you see the content of both HDMI ports simultaneously?

      My HDTV will let you display picture on picture on a selected HDMI port and the TV tuner, however I actually found it pointless.

      When you "snap" the TV view, it shows side by side your game so you can see both at the same time.

      Honestly do you really think many people will use this?

      Not many do, and if you're waiting for your game to load (xbox or ps4), you can snap and play the other while waiting. Or if you're waiting for your friend to get on and log in, no one said you can't play a quick game on the other port while waiting.

      Again do you honestly think many people who own an Xbox-one and/or Xbox360 and/or PS3/4 are going to do this? While I wont comment on the Xbox360 I find my PS3 loads a game in well under a minute (usually 20~30 seconds) and that is not even enough time to play one round of Angry Birds. Not only that but the controllers are totally different so you would play one or the other but both?.

      If Sony was smart, they'd put a mode that lets you see your friends on PSN that works well in "snapped" mode so you can monitor your friends list while waiting and playing something else.

      Well I have not played the PS4 and not many have so who's to say Sony have not considered doing this although in my case if I am playing a game the last thing I want to do is monitor a friends list.

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    13. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much of the HDMI signal is unencrypted? Big question is if it's passthrough or decrypted. I'd decrypte and re-encrypt to avoid the annoying "we hate our customers" wait for a handshake, but that leaves it open for uses as you suggest.

    14. Re:you missed the point by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

      Well I have not played the PS4 and not many have so who's to say Sony have not considered doing this although in my case if I am playing a game the last thing I want to do is monitor a friends list.

      I guess you never play online with people from your friends list then. If you are gaming online it is quite nice to know when your friends come online so you can invite them to join your game.

      Another reason this might be useful is while waiting for matchmaking to find you a game. I often have my laptop on the desk next to me so I can sit there browsing the web while waiting for it to find enough players if there are 4 or 5 of us joined on each other trying to get a match of BlackOps2. Sometimes the wait is so long we just give up but on most occasions it only takes a few minutes, having something else to keep you occupied like watching crap on TV would help keep you entertained though.

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    15. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a great feature for people too stupid to just use the other HDMI input on their TV.

      My TV only has one HDMI input - and my receiver has two. (Not everyone has whatever you have.)

      Another thing people seem to be missing is the latency in the controls for the game. The more links you have in the chain, the greater the latency between what you press and what you see. While it may not be a huge issue for many games that don't require a great deal of timing precision, for those that do it's an utter nightmare to compensate for. I have a hacked PS3 with some emulators on it that is wired through my receiver then to the TV. In Super Metroid, doing the mock ball requires some pretty accurate timing and is near impossible on my setup. While if I play on a PC with a wired controller, it is much easier to perform. Even getting some accurately timed jumps (i.e. wall jumps) is hard to do via the PS3. I know that HDTV's have latency problems sometimes related to scaling of the signal (i.e. 480 -> 1080). When hooked directly to the TV, the lag is a little bit less, but due to signal processing in the receiver I get a little bit of added lag. I suspect there's some small amount of lag in the wireless controllers, particularly if you get a lot of noise from other things sending/receiving in similar bandwidths (i.e. bluetooth keyboard/mouse). I'd imagine the XBO will do the same thing, and have the same problems. Queue all the CoD kicking and screaming.

    16. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No and not all titles use HDCP but I'm sure the ones that do will not allow you to daisy chain anything that does to the Xbox One.

      That being said, all cable boxes should have HDCP flagged to yes to prevent un-authorized copying.

    17. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My receiver has 4, my TV has 3. And there are HDMI switches out there that could be used that are much cheaper than the XBO

      Well, none of these give you the pleasure of just saying "X-Box, switch to Playstation" ;)

    18. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been wasting my time looking at features like contrast, viewing angle, color and power usage. Turns out number of HDMI inputs is the sole determining factor in the quality of a television.

    19. Re:you missed the point by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      While I wont comment on the Xbox360 I find my PS3 loads a game in well under a minute (usually 20~30 seconds) and that is not even enough time to play one round of Angry Birds. Not only that but the controllers are totally different so you would play one or the other but both?.

      I don't play my consoles daily, so on the PS3, everytime I turn it on, I have to go through the entire update rigamarole, which can easily take 40+ minutes (system update, game update, blah blah blah). Yes, I timed it once and I gave up because I only had an hour to play.

      Heck, even Xbox updates can take 5-10 minutes. And someone mentioned waiting for friends to come online (I remember I decided to participate in a limited invite Halo multiplayer game - it took us half an hour to get everyone settled down and ready to play - would've been nice to spend that half hour playing something else).

      And matchmaking... sometimes the waits are deadly long. (Of course, since the game loads the maps etc., you have plenty of time to suspend the other game).

      If you're playing offline single player, yeah, the dealys aren't too long, but when you're waiting for others (or waiting for your friend to come online, even) it's certainly handy to be doing something else while keeping watch.

    20. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think about it: Kinect knows who's in front of the screen, their gender and approximate age (maybe even their race), who's awake, who's shuffling and bored, who leaves the room and at which point in whatever it is they're watching.

      And likely whether or not you are wearing pants.

    21. Re:you missed the point by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Or the pleasure of spending 300W on a 5W feature.

    22. Re:you missed the point by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      The cheapest TVs available when I bought mine (to use as a TV monitor) had 3 HDMI inputs. I never understood why, but mine (a 1080p one) was one of the cheapest and has 3xHDMI, 1xVGA, 1xRS232 (??), and a few 3 others that I can't be bother to google and fine out what they're called.

    23. Re:you missed the point by toddestan · · Score: 1

      It seems that a lot of smaller TV sets only have 1 or maybe 2 HDMI inputs. Not everyone wants or needs a gigantic television in every case, but sadly it seems that anything smaller than 32" your options become kind of limited, and many brands like Panasonic and Sony don't even offer anything that small.

    24. Re:you missed the point by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      The cheapest TVs available when I bought mine (to use as a TV monitor) had 3 HDMI inputs.

      Sometimes, you're limited by what's available when you actually *need* to replace something.

      I have a 40" Sony Bravia I bought in early 2006, when my previous 32" CRT died, and it only has one HDMI input - which is attached to a Sony DA3200ES receiver. The Blu-ray player is attached to one of the receiver's HDMI inputs. The TV's VGA port is attached to my MythTV system @ 1280x768 (the video card flakes at a higher res.) All the other (Pioneer) media components, including two 150W 16" front speaker cabinets, are attached through the receiver - ya, the volume will go to 11 w/o breaking a sweat.

      The Pioneer components are from a rack system my wife bought herself in 1985 as a divorce present - just before we met and I actually hooked everything up for her when we met. She died in January 2006 so there's some sentimental attachment to those components - which still work great, btw.

      If I ever got a gaming console - big "if" - I'd probably pump it through one of the other HDMI ports on the receiver.

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    25. Re:you missed the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What argument? I was agreeing with the previous poster that connectivity is an important factor to consider when purchasing a television, especially when attaching a cable box, media player and console already maxes out a system with three HDMI ports, let alone a system with one.

      I think you really need to calm down a bit.

  21. "Futureproofing" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just noticed my Commodore 64 can connect a PS3.

    Holy shit!!!

  22. Snap? by jfengel · · Score: 1

    What does the verb "snap" mean in this context? "Any application can be snapped to a game"? It makes it sound as if something is being done to it, but I get the impression that it's just being passed through (and so the only thing being "snapped" is the video sockets being snapped together).

    Is there some technical or colloquial definition that I'm missing here?

    1. Re:Snap? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      No. It's apparently MS marketing speak for a picture-in-picture type feature. The XBox can display it's own output side by side with the passthrough video from whatever you plug into it.

      MS seems to be all about the snap now. Snapping tablets, snapping xboxes.

    2. Re:Snap? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Oh, snap!

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    3. Re:Snap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      'Snap Mode' is the name of a feature of the new console discussed at their Xbox event back in May:

      It's essentially a port of a well-known Windows 8 feature: separate apps can be pinned to the edge of the television's screen in isolated panels, allowing gamers to use Xbox apps while playing a game, or watch TV while simultaneously using Internet Explorer

    4. Re:Snap? by Kaenneth · · Score: 3, Funny

      I Snapped my Windows Phone.

      it was in my back pocket, and I sat down too hard =(

    5. Re:Snap? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The M$ product is a fixed part of your home cinema/surround sound/media experience. The Sony product can then be plugged ("snapped" or clicked) in as a special treat for that rare rental Sony game or 4k movie rental experience.
      MS products are to be the on going gaming, rental and movie experience, other products can be dusted off and "snapped" into place if needed.

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  23. So it Breaks HDCP? by Lumpy · · Score: 0

    Interesting..... The Xbone may be a great way to break HDCP issues.

    That would be cool that micrisoft screwed things up and broke HDCP with this.

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    1. Re:So it Breaks HDCP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      *yawn* -- It's been utterly amazing to me that people who troll /. haven't realised that HDMI and HDCP have been circumvented for YEARS already....

      HD-Fury

      Circumventing HDMI+HDCP has been dead-simple for half-a-decade already, PLEASE try to keep up with the times...

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  24. I can show you one even more trivial article... by Morpf · · Score: 1

    Then you haven't seen the "WHOA ctrl+shift+t opens closed windows in firefox again"-article some weeks ago.

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/08/26/0010239/the-greatest-keyboard-shortcut-ever

  25. Classic by libtek · · Score: 1

    Classic X-Bone move - XD

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  26. I've seen this somewhere by speedlaw · · Score: 1

    WOW ! a "Record In" jack. Is it 1982 again ?

  27. In other news... by Jack+Kolesar · · Score: 1

    The HDMI output port will produce video and the audio output jack will, in fact, produce audio. Welcome to the 21st century!

    1. Re:In other news... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you. But in my 21st century the HDMI port produces both video and audio.

  28. My PS4 Wants Privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    phuk dat

  29. P-in-P? by sunking2 · · Score: 1

    Without doing much actual investigating is snap actually picture in picture? That would actually be great as I'd finally be able to dump Directv and just stream the Yankees next year without having to change inputs to see what's going on.

  30. How is this news? by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is this even interesting? Anyone with a receiver has had HDMI pass-through for ages now. My Yamaha receiver has HDMI pass-through and switching, why on earth would I want to use the Microsoft version?

    Seriously, there is nearly zero benefit to this (and it sucks more power from the XBOne being turned on while not in use).

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  31. Reverse innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So we are expected to power on an energy draining Xbox to be able to watch TV from an energy draining cable box.
    What ever happened to elegance and power efficiency. Ceton and Silicondust could have elegant cable card solutions if only Microsoft would put Media Center on the xbox. I'm sure satellite providers could offer something comparable if a power like Microsoft was behind it.
    I think this is a giant step backwards for innovating the living room. With Xbox 360, an Xbox and a cable box was enough to cover movies (except blurry/hddvd), games, and tv with 1 device powered on at a time. Now, same number of boxes, requiring both to be powered on.

  32. This has a lot of awesome potential by LRAD · · Score: 1

    Seems like the implication is that it can do more than just pass through. I suspect it can manipulate the video stream as well. Imagine having live tv you can watch in a game. Locations like apartments, in front of electronic stores, up on a giant screen in times square! I think they've already kind of shown the idea of watching a football game overlaid with your fantasy football league app. Examples Here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/entertainment The xbox can also presumably talk to your cable box, or an alternate media player (xbmc?) through HDMI using CEC. A scenario might be that you're playing a game and your girlfriend comes in and is like "Yo babe my show is on in 5 minutes!" So you can finish up your game and change your video sources' channel and later switch to it. All while hanging onto your xbox controller, no changing remotes or paying for expensive programmable ones. The "snap" verb refers to the windows RT/8 "metro" style. You're not using windows on the system, you're allocating a variable width vertical slice of screen real estate the the other interface. Sounds like it could be pretty cool. I'd want my steambox to be able to do that too.

  33. *sigh* Yet no PVR capabilities. by MrBandersnatch · · Score: 1

    The ability to use the XBone as a PVR would have been a significant feather in MSs cap; instead they are trying to sell the most minor of features.

    The XBone is boned.

  34. Nostalgia by peppepz · · Score: 1

    Is HDMI getting feature parity with 1980s SCART cables? Back then it was pretty common to daisy-chain set-top boxes. Well, now we only need bidirectional audio-video, although I have a feeling that DRM will get in the way of that.

  35. First World Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't play two consoles at once to avoid waiting for load times at the start of a game.

  36. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ARTICLE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, come fucking on?

  37. How about going 3Dfx by Z80a · · Score: 1

    And plugging two Xbones in a "SLI" like configuration to double the rendering power?

  38. This is an amazing feature by Apharmd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    for users who are disappointed that their cable company isn't showing them enough ads. No, but seriously, this feature sucks. You get voice-activated input swapping, but when you go to the Xbone's interface to swap it shows a pane completely bordered by advertisements ala Idiocracy. Who would find such a thing desirable?

  39. I already have a better solution by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

    I plug my PS4's HDMI cable into my TV instead of plugging it into the XBox One then plugging the XBox One into my TV.

    That method will be absolutely necessary because there won't be a XBox One anywhere inside my home, much less near my TV or the HDMI jacks.

  40. Snapping? I smell marketing bullshit by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    They are trying hard to make it sound like Xbox-one is actually doing something.

    All its doing is passing the signal through. Hardly justifies a buzzword, does it?