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NSA Director Keith Alexander Is Reportedly Stepping Down

Daniel_Stuckey writes "Keith Alexander will step down by April or May of next year. What's more, the agency's deputy director Chris Inglis also plans to retire by the end of next year, anonymous US officials told Reuters today. Though the news comes in the midst of a global public backlash over the NSA's widespread surveillance programs, it's worth pointing out that Alexander had revealed his plans to retire before Edward Snowden leaked details of PRISM in June. Officials didn't give a reason for his departure."

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  1. easy reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He's got enough peep show pron to last him 5 lifetimes now.

    1. Re:easy reason by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      A homosexual robot?

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  2. A better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Throw them both in prison for ten years for breaking the law.

    1. Re:A better idea by trum4n · · Score: 1

      50 years.

    2. Re:A better idea by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Informative

      Silly rabbit, laws are for the poor and weak.

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    3. Re:A better idea by P-niiice · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then throw congress in jail for making it legal. The Patriot act is what you get when you let anger guide your choices.

    4. Re:A better idea by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually they exceeded even the minor limitations of the Patriot Act. They lied to Congress about what they were doing as well which is a felony. It seems that if you have enough power the law doesn't apply to you nowadays. If Nixon were president today he wouldn't need to resign.

    5. Re:A better idea by jcr · · Score: 1

      He's committed billions of counts of illegal wiretapping. He should never be eligible for parole.

      -jcr

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    6. Re:A better idea by jcr · · Score: 2

      They didn't make it legal. An unconstitutional act of congress isn't a law, it's a usurpation.

      -jcr

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    7. Re:A better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

      No, reenact the Nuremberg trials!

    8. Re:A better idea by operagost · · Score: 3

      Implied recognition that Obama and Nixon are much the same...

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    9. Re:A better idea by intermodal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's law, it's just unconstitutional law. And you're right, exceeding their authority is a form of usurpation.

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    10. Re:A better idea by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      And scapegoats! Don't forget the scapegoating! The NSA could totally scapegoat him. Which would be better than what I'm guessing is going to happen: not a damn thing, and the clear message being sent to all future directors of spy agencies: you are operating utterly above the law. At least if we make one guy go to jail, that will give future directors pause before they ignore the constitution.

    11. Re:A better idea by fredrated · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. On the other hand, I like the argument that Obama = Bush.

    12. Re:A better idea by intermodal · · Score: 3

      Portions maybe, but the convenient loophole these days is to refuse to hear cases by claiming the parties bringing suit lack standing. Especially when the claimants are actively prevented from gathering information to prove standing, though sometimes they just reject that outright in the first place.

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    13. Re:A better idea by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      They are. Everyone who decided to work with the US government gets a pass. :)

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    14. Re:A better idea by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      Then its time to stop seeing the laws of this country as legitimate. New constitution, the old one FAILED.

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    15. Re:A better idea by RenderSeven · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh dear gods no!!!! Could you IMAGINE the piece of crap constitution that would be written these days?? By committees and lobbyists and lawyers (oh my)??

      There are 4 pages and 4543 words in the original, unamended Constitution including the signatures. It is the oldest and shortest written Constitution of any major government in the world. Compare that to 960 pages for the ACA, about 1300 for a typical Bible, and a whopping 73954 pages for the tax code. I shudder to think what a New and Improved constitution would look like.

    16. Re:A better idea by intermodal · · Score: 1

      It's not the constitution that fails when the men who execute it are what broke it. The constitution itself is still fairly solid, our government's adherence to it not so much.

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    17. Re:A better idea by intermodal · · Score: 1

      More than anything else, we need a government reset, not a constitution rewrite. I've been saying since the late 90s that the biggest thing we can do to save our nation from its government is to simply take the time, as a nation, to re-evaluate every part of the US Code and other governmental acts and throw most of them out on the grounds of either being discredited or outmoded based on its intent, or no longer performing its intended function for other reasons. What remains after such a process would definitely need to be rewritten and simplified.

      If it takes a lawyer to know whether any laws are broken, it is too complex a legal system for a free society.

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    18. Re:A better idea by sjames · · Score: 1

      Given the size of the Patriot act and how quickly it was introduced, it's clear it was sitting in someone's desk ready to go. They just waited for something they could whip up into a panic and then introduced it as the cure to what ails ya.

    19. Re:A better idea by jcr · · Score: 2

      The failure of the court to enforce the fourth amendment doesn't change what it says. The PATRIOT act is unconstitutional.

      -jcr

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    20. Re:A better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, Bush and Obama are worse. Nixon could only cream in his pants at the thought of what those two get away with. Nixon merely spied on the opposite party, using clumsy physical thugs. Bush/Obama are spying on 300+ million people and that's just the domestic number.

    21. Re:A better idea by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Don't read too much into it. I just grabbed Nixon's name because he was the only President to resign. Obama may be liberal but I don't think he's crooked. He uses the government to rob people which is entirely legal.

    22. Re:A better idea by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      You have to wonder what Tricky Dick could have done in this day and age don't you? Imagine J. Edgar Hoover with all these new toys and info systems. Oh man!

    23. Re:A better idea by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Well a few decades ago you couldn't openly flaunt it. It was necessary to cover things up.

    24. Re:A better idea by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      " Obama may be liberal but I don't think he's crooked."

      Name 3 policies where Obama is to the left of Nixon.

    25. Re:A better idea by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Socialized health care.

      Abortion

      Gay Marriage

      That was easy.

    26. Re:A better idea by Sir+Foxx · · Score: 1

      It didn't work out for Anakin Skywalker and it hasn't worked out for us. Will we ever learn?

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  3. He wants to spend more time at home by Required+Snark · · Score: 5, Funny

    So he can devote all his energies to spying on his family and friends.

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  4. Yeah, what a punishment by TWiTfan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They should give him a t-shirt that says "I raped my country's Constitution and all I got was full my federal pension, lifetime healthcare benefits, full pardon for all my crimes, and this lousy t-shirt."

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    1. Re:Yeah, what a punishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll pay for the shirt, just tell me where to have it sent.

  5. A new era for The Puzzle Palace by TheloniousToady · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although the general public has always known about the CIA, they used to be totally unaware of existence of the NSA. So, although it's not remarkable that the NSA's head is retiring, it is remarkable that the public knows - or cares - about it. The Puzzle Palace just ain't what it used to be.

  6. Re:Well by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Funny

    President Obama: "Well Keith, I'm here to.."

    Keith Alexander: "Ask me to resign, yeah I knew."

    President Obama: Whaat..how you did you know?

    Keith Alexander: "Several of your aides mentioned it within hearing distance of their cellphone mikes yesterday."

    President Obama: "Well okay, what are you planning on doing now?"

    Keith Alexander: "Probably spend a few days whacking it to these pictures I captured from your daughter's cellphone camera. Then I'm going to become the most powerful lobbyist in Washington with all this blackmail material."

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  7. Re:Well by morgauxo · · Score: 2

    If he saw it coming then Snowden would have had an unfortunate accident.

  8. Re:Well by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    Hey man, he's a Star Trek fan. He's got better taste than that.

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  9. Re:Running away by TWiTfan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ha, even on the HIGHLY UNLIKELY chance any of these scumbags would ever be charged with anything, they would get a full Presidential pardon before the ink even dried on their arrest warrants.

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  10. Re:Well by TWiTfan · · Score: 1

    Not if he sees himself as Garak from DS9.

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  11. Re:Presidential candidate? by amiga3D · · Score: 2

    Federal Contractor. Making at lest 10X his federal salary.

  12. Reason for stepping down discovered by Dishwasha · · Score: 5, Funny

    After an extensive audit, it was uncovered that Keith Alexander had system administrator right.

  13. Okay, now about his perjury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Will there be any follow up to that?

  14. maybe by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    NSA Director Keith Alexander Is Reportedly Stepping Down

    yes ... reportedly. Maybe he'll start doing it for real now he's finished being a front-man.

  15. Re:Obligatory reason by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    No doubt he's stepping down to "spend more time with his family".

    Probably because his wife's e-mail and cell phone records indicate she's having an affair.

    But I sent her those emails in ROT13!

  16. Anger is what they'd like you to believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Anger? We are talking about budgets worth tens to hundreds of billions of dollars. You are going to have a hard time convincing me that anger is a bigger movitator than greed. It barely takes a sneeze to leverage $10 million out of a $10 billion cash flow.

  17. Must be nice... by FuzzNugget · · Score: 2

    ... to get nothing more than a cushy retirement after having committed countless crimes against millions of people.

  18. He wins by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Given that he is not stepping down into a Gen Pop PMITA prison (whilst we are still in his) means he wins.

  19. Mr. Alexander by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    may you rot in hell.

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  20. Re:Presidential candidate? by asylum_street_blues · · Score: 1

    Putin was a hood, too (though not the head of the KGB).

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  21. The State is cannibalizing its mandate. by supervirus · · Score: 1

    Just as the State will destroy DNA evidence that can exonerate prisoners already put to death - to prevent "undermining of the death penalty system", drones rain down down terror on largely innocent populations and bystanders - in the name of the war on terror, now the NSA is seeking to persecute Snowden for espionage, theft and conversion of Government property (data) - data which revealed that the NSA is doing exactly those things on as large a scale as their technology allows. Justice, liberty, privacy, peace and security are but fuel for the State's burning ambition for supremacy.

    1. Re: The State is cannibalizing its mandate. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      It is interesting times. You have the two reports from the US nuclear side too:
      http://rt.com/usa/us-nuclear-general-suspended-495/
      and then:
      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/11/air-force-general-in-charge-nuclear-missiles-to-be-fired-officials-say/
      Was an item transferred from a US base without the correct paperwork?
      Was an item not transferred from a US base without the correct paperwork?
      Now 2 top people from the NSA too (civilian deputy will step down too).
      Someone is replacing staff around the nuke command and the domestic surveillance system. What does history tell about the politics of such changes?

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  22. Re:Well by aralin · · Score: 1

    Modded Funny? Where is the +1. Scary mod?

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  23. I am applying by paiute · · Score: 1

    I just sent in my application by emailing it to one of my other accounts.

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  24. NSA = No Such Administrator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "The spook you are trying to reach is no longer in service. Please hold while, and another bureaucrat will soon pretend not to be monitoring the line."

  25. Do What All Retiring General Officers Do by jasper160 · · Score: 1

    Form a consulting company and overcharge the government to provide more bad advice at the highest price.

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  26. I don't want to know who's stepping down... by Rozzin · · Score: 2

    the news comes in the midst of a global public backlash over the NSA's widespread surveillance programs

    I can't find a reliable source for this now, but I seem to remember someone saying recently (on another, less significant matter): "I don't want to know who's getting fired, I want to know who's going to jail."

    Of course, we're not even talking about someone getting fired--we're talking about someone retiring....

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  27. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No he is more like the Ferengi, he has all this technology but doesn't quite know how to use it or what to do with it. but it is shiny.

  28. Re:Running away by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Bzzzt wrong. A pardon is given to a guilty person. Even to pardon them would be to admit their guilt.

    What would happen is the attorney general would substitute the government itself as the defendant for them, since they worked for the government, and thus would shield them from real prosecution.

    Then they would declare that none of the evidence can be shown for national security reasons, and once the dust settled on that, the case would be dismissed.

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  29. anonymous US officials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who finds this a little amusing?

    "anonymous US officials told Reuters today"

    Nice to hear US official can maintain anonymity.

  30. Too little, too late, end the NSA by erroneus · · Score: 1

    The NSA has demonstrated government out of control. The whole agency has got to go. The US, my country, has not only created terrorism where it is the primary target (If the "they hate our freedom" is the cause, then why aren't other free countries targeted as well?) but has managed to lose its trust and influence all over the world due to the NSA's behaviors. Worse, it is also affecting American business as they have been shown to be extremely complicit and so also cannot easily be trusted. I'd like to say we never saw it coming, but we did. I have seen other people saying this would happen. I have said it myself. No one believed it would happen to the great and powerful USA... but it's happening

  31. Re:Running away by mdmkolbe · · Score: 2

    Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he "might" have committed, so I don't think it requires admission of guilt. (Though there might be a perception of guilt and political fallout from that.)

    Even if it did, Obama could just pardon him on his (Obama's) last day of office. If they delay the trial with pre-trial motions for a couple of years, the pardon would come through before anyone does any time.

    (Of course, given that there isn't any real suggestion of an actual trial, this is all academic speculation.)

  32. Re:Running away by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    > Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he "might" have committed, so I don't think it requires
    > admission of guilt. (Though there might be a perception of guilt and political fallout from that.)

    so did you catch the more recent news? Nixon was KNOWN to have committed treason before he was elected. LBJ's spies had a senior person in his campaign, on a recorded phone call to South Viet Nam, urging the South Vietnamese to pull out of peace talks, promising a better deal under a Nixon administration.

    Clear collusion with a foriegn party to affect US elections, not just in a trivial way, but but pulling out of peace talks against US foriegn policy interests. This information was not made public until sometime in the past year or two.

    > Even if it did, Obama could just pardon him on his (Obama's) last day of office. If they delay the
    > trial with pre-trial motions for a couple of years, the pardon would come through before anyone does
    > any time.

    However, why would they allow that to even happen? http://www.atra.org/legislation/federal/federal-employees-liability-reform-and-tort-compensation-aAct

    ...Act to provide for the substitution of the United States as a defendant in any action where one of its employees is sued for damages as a result of an alleged common law tort committed by the employee within the scope of his or her employment. Congress enacted the Westfall Act to respond to the United States Supreme Court's decision in Westfall v. Erwin, 484 U.S. 292 (1988), which limited a federal official's absolute immunity from tort claims to situations where the official's actions were "within the outer perimeter of an official's duties and . . . discretionary in nature."

    Or this article on how it is being used to shield the members of the Bush Cabal: http://rt.com/usa/bush-amnesty-iraq-war-847/

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  33. The real reason he's stepping down... by ChainedFei · · Score: 1

    ...Is so that he can work on the review board that is set to investigate the NSA. At least, that's what I imagine will happen.