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PM Calls Facebook Irresponsible For Allowing Beheading Clips
An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt: "David Cameron has attacked Facebook as irresponsible for lifting a ban on videos of beheadings being posted on its site. The prime minister said the social network must explain its decision to allow images showing decapitations to worried parents. Facebook has said users should be free to view such videos and then condemn the content. Cameron wrote on Twitter: 'It's irresponsible of Facebook to post beheading videos, especially without a warning. They must explain their actions to worried parents.' Facebook introduced a temporary ban on such videos in May but has since decided to remove the block on the grounds that the site is used to share information about world events, such as acts of terrorism and human rights abuses."
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/10/21/239219/facebook-lets-beheading-clips-return-to-its-site
why not just add a post in there
who where what when now?
There's a bunch of countries in the world with PMs. I have no fucking idea which one David Cameron runs. How bout throwing us a bone and just telling us which country we're talking about?
Unfortunately this will likely help him in his quest for web censorship...
This is wonderful news. Facebook will now be blocked by default in the government porn filters, and thus far more people will opt out of them. Turns out Facebook is actually useful for something.
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'It's irresponsible of Facebook to post beheading videos, especially without a warning. They must explain their actions to worried parents.'
So much fail...
Facebook doesn't post any beheading videos. It's users do.
I thought we were allowed to be irresponsible as long as it's legal?
If my Facebook friends don't like the content that I may or may not post, then they can hide it or unfriend me.
Looks like he's trying to win Family Votes, and slashdot is helping to peddle this crap.
Shame on you timothy. Shame on you.
Irresponsible, yes, but it sure does help sell the whole war on terror. Look, this could be you if your country does not bend over and contribute to the world war on terror (Icelands experience).
Of course.. because David Cameron wants to ban and censor everything.
There was also a beheading in Expendables movie...
They must explain their actions to worried parents.
UK PM "Won't someone think of the children" Cameron can just explain that his opt-in internet policy will naturally prevent children watching YouTube. Or he could ask why those parents aren't supervising their child's internet time.
If the PM really wants to turn the internet into a babysitter, he can fund a law to rent appropriate content and create a walled garden.
I suppose it is OK to post rape videos and snuff films on Facebook now as well.
The prime minister said the social network must explain its decision to allow images showing decapitations to worried parents.
I would strongly advise worried parents not to watch decapitation clips.
The prime minister said the social network must explain its decision to allow images showing decapitations to worried parents.
I would strongly advise worried parents not to watch decapitation clips.
Excepting Muzzy parents who are worried that fellow Muslims are being too soft on the Kaffirs of course
Facebook calls PM sissy fop for censoring what the children already see in games, on t.v. and in the backyard with a Barbie and Ken execution playset.
" Who is this irritation and why does he not realize that "I" govern more people than his silly little country and the Catholic Church combined?" said Zuckerburg, wiping the powder from beneath his nostrils and grabbing another turkey leg. " Off with his head!"
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
...I wish the British would leave by their concept of "No sex please."
That way, they'd stop contaminating the gene pool and eventually die out...
sounds like a twit.
That is all.
The Taliban doing the beheadings are the tea party of the muslims. The majority aren't like that and prefer to get on with their lives in peace.
...Facebook doesn't even allow to "dislike" content....
If you're not confused, you're not paying attention
so what happened last time the British tried to enforce their morality across the pond....
...i'd be more concerned to show my kids (a video of) the likes of David Cameron than (a video of) a beheading (as tasteless as the latter might be).
Is there any part of the internet (aside from its utility for dystopian surveillance) that hasn't caused David Cameron to open his horrible, gormless, marshmallow-face and drone on about 'the children' and 'irresponsibility'? It's as though his government has entirely run out of substantive policy or something...
Don't worry, it's halal.
A lot of comments in the news article seem to be pro-censorship.
You know what, fuck it. Maybe the British deserve to live in the pro-censorship cesspool they've created for themselves.
Don't get me wrong, videos of beheadings are disgusting and don't interest me in the slightest, but how much more retarded can you be?
As pointed out elsewhere, Facebook has the same odd puritanical streak as found throughout the USA. You can watch people being beheaded, but they still firmly forbid pictures of breastfeeding moms. The sight of a female breast might excite prurient passions, whereas watching a murder is just spiffy.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
One thing to keep in mind is that these are videos of crimes. That is certainly the case in the Mexican excample that I saw cited.
I'll leave it up to you whether you support the posting of videos of crimes, but I don't see a good reason for it. Even in the cases of political speech and exposing human rights violations, you rarely need to resort to messages that are so graphic.
I'm thinking of like: a web application, where you can upload a picture of some random politician of your choice.
And then the site will create an animation where there is a fake beheading, and, through the power of computer graphics; a plain color background is displayed, with the head replaced with a stub.
These fake beheadings could then be virally shared on FB
Facebook went too far, and has crossed the line by placing behavior that is either amoral or immoral on public display.
Civilized society can no longer permit this, Cameron is correct.
In my country, during socialism, the majority also wasn't like that. They wouldn't imprison or hang people for political reasons. But they didn't do anything against it either.
Ezekiel 23:20
That's one way of looking at it. Another is that they're the "Organizinag For America" for the Islamic world.
You mean they stand for limited government and obeying the constitution?
Start posting CGI videos of beheading Mark Zuckerberg, I have a feeling he will change his mind
Repeat after me: We are all individuals
I'm actually coming down on the side of facebook.I never felt so dirty.
Fuck Cameron. With a rake. Sideways.
Why are parents worried? You have to be 13 to have a Facebook account. Surely parents aren't letting their children who aren't old enough to meet the ToS of Facebook to have a Facebook account?
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
We should behead Zuckerberg and see if they carry that.
These videos are horrific but that doesn't mean we need to "omg think of the children. censor, protect, etc". The real world is horrific sometimes and that's the reality of it. If you don't want your kids affected by the harsh reality of the internet, then get off your ass, turn off the tv and parent. Going for censorship because your too lazy to watch your kid will leave a very sad future for them and in the meantime, d-bags like Cameroon will take whatever liberty they can to construe these edicts into legal activity far-reaching into areas you never though possible.
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Why they let their kids use facebook unsupervised?
Every year following the gay pride parade in Toronto, there are a bunch of articles from "shocked" parents who's children were just exposed to such horrible sights as men kissing.
Every year I wonder WHY THE FUCK DO YOU TAKE YOUR KIDS TO THE GAY PRIDE PARADE?
Yeah. Cameron. Calling out "irresponsible"? Don't make me laugh.
Look at the shitfest of the Badger Cull. The tranwreck that is HS2, "the greenest government ever" and the new nuke plants operated by government, but just not ours. Or the deliberate shitting on any renewable projects because if they're as successful as elsewhere, their claims of doom-and-gloom if we don't go Big Power will be shown to be as full of shit as they are.
How are we to remain in denial if we allow the lowly common public to see the atrocities, the inhumanity?
No brain, no pain.
"I'm not convinced they're actually capable of being principled on these things"
Doesnt look to me like they even tried to pretend otherwise. Rather than taking a stand to censor or allow these videos, they seem to be saying they will censor them - but only if they dont like the reactions that are being posted. I believe that's the least principled stand they could possibly have taken here.
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Eye on the the TV
'Cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be, like...
"Killed by the husband"
"Drowned by the ocean"
"Shot by his own son"
"She used a poison in his tea, and kissed him goodbye"
That's my kind of story
It's no fun 'til someone dies
Don't look at me like I am a monster
Frown out your one face, but with the other
Stare like a junkie into the TV
Stare like a zombie
While the mother holds her child, watches him die
Hands to the sky crying, "Why, oh why?"
Cause I need to watch things die...from a distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all need it too, don't lie
Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
That's rather like holding the majority of Christian responsible for the actions of the Westboro Baptists Church.
Limited Government and the Free Institution of the Church As State. Exactly as the Tbaggers, just a different sect of the same religion.
Obeying the Koran. Just like the TBaggers, just they want the constitution and bible as Holy Book, with the bibble being the first source and only the bits they like out of both (in that sense being just like these taliban).
Cameron's power ends at the border of the UK.
The web extends all over the world.
And what runs Facebook is not some whining government cunt
like Cameron, but MONEY.
So good luck with your efforts, Cameron, you stupid twit.
a politician only interested in power. Additionally, facebook doesn't have to do shit.
It is totally permissible for an Englishman (or anyone else, really) to post an opinion like "The US should keep its drug prohibition laws as-is." But if you post the predictable consequences of people deciding to use government force to create a black market for certain commodities, thereby concentrating wealth (and power) in the hands of criminals, somehow that's crossing the line?
You have it backwards. The guy saying "keep drugs illegal" is the person who is actually partially responsible for the murders, by endorsing the occasional murder (justified by it being balanced out by the positive effects of centralizing drug profits, so that the speaker's donors keep contributing). The person who says "hey, look what the prohibitionists accomplished here, [thunk goes someone's head]" is opposing murder.
It's by publicizing how government policy nurtures Al Capones and what happens as a result of having a bunch of Al Capones, that we end that nurturing. This is how each of us moves from using our political power to accomplish murders, toward using our political power to protect freedom.
By speaking out against the anti-murder side, and silently approving the pro-murder side, it looks like the PM is taking a pro-murder position. If Cameron is so worried about Britain's children, maybe he should worry about them hearing that message! "Please, may the beheadings continue! Just stop showing us, please."?!? WTF dude!!
(BTW, I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to politically endorse murders, thereby sometimes occasionally causing them to happen. I'm just saying we should acknowledge it and own it: we want some occasional drug murders, for the greater good. (In this instance, the "greater good" seems to be to line drug dealers' pockets instead of letting Wal-Mart have these profits (at a lower margin) with the economy reaping the savings. (That seems like a dubious benefit to me, but this is your opinion, not mine, so .. whatever floats your boat, dude.)) If you can't admit what you're advocating, or if you find it repugnant and shameful, the problem isn't with saying it; the problem is with the pro-prohibition opinion itself. Deal with it, coward.)
Icelands [PRIVATELY RUN BANKS] got themselves in trouble because it lost other people's money and refused to pay it back [THEN TRIED TO PASS ON THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE ICELANDIC TAXPAYERS].
Unlike other countries, they thankfully mostly failed...
Cameron is looking more like a cynical pandering buffoon each day. This is the dope who said the Guardian must be guilty over NSA leaks because they obeyed his jackbooted thugs and destroyed the computer the files were on under threat of prosecution and in the presence of MI-5. A moronic bit of theater to pander to dopes like Cameron if ever there was one.
The big difference is the majority of Muslims are closer to doing what the Talibans do than say the majority of the Buddhists. This is because it's easier to use the Quran and the Hadiths to justify Taliban style acts than it is to use Buddha's teachings.
So I'd say the Muslims are provably more dangerous by the POPULAR interpretations of their scriptures AND their track record so far.
You can make claims that Buddhists are terrorists and everyone will ignore or laugh at you except people in Sri Lanka.
Don't believe me? Go make some Buddha cartoons and see what happens. Count how many mosques, temples, churches are burnt down as a result, how many people killed, how many death threats.
Try it with various religions and compare the results. This can be done fairly scientifically.
And half a boob is not ok on facebook...
this makes sence...
Facebook is a piece of shit. Like Cameron. Mystery solved.
David Cameron is just vile.
We should allow people to see the actions of these mentally ill psycopaths. This is the lesson that should have been learned from the northern european approach to terrorist trials. Let them speak. Let people see them for what they are. There will be only revulsion. It will do more to damage their cause (which is generally totally so twisted, as to be completely incomprehensible to modern civil society anyway), to paint a graphic picture of their vile actions, than to quietly censor, and to hide.
It will only spread opposition to these groups, and to the regimes that support them.
David Cameron is, to me, in the same category as these people. He is a man that seeks to take our liberties, and to instil an authoritarian, and frankly rather nasty kind of government.
By the looks of it, they're determined to bring the world back to the Victorian period.
Why else would they still make Victorian period costume dramas?
Oh yes! Warning: NSFW :-)
Well thank god for that, how could terrorists spread their message of hate and terror without Facebook's cooperation, thank you Facebook, from terrorists everywhere.
And that goes for the politicians and the news media too, thank you for scaring the shit out of people, rather than pointing out the low odds of being killed by terrorists, the terrorists would be nothing without you. You help to put the 'terror' in to terrorism.
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TSIA.