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UK Town To Get Driverless 'Pods' Mixing With Pedestrians

Bruce66423 writes "Milton Keynes is the most successful new town in the U.K., being built on a green field site from the '60s onward. Initially famous for concrete cows, it is the home of the Open University, which offers college-level courses at home. Now, the U.K. Business Secretary has announced plans to have small driverless cars shuttle people around parts of the town starting in 2015. There will be about 20 of the pod-like vehicles to start, each capable of holding two people. They will have their own pathways and move at about 12mph. The plan is to continue developing and testing the vehicles, and by 2017, 100 of them will share walkways with pedestrians."

111 comments

  1. Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mobile sex pods, just what I've been waiting for!

    1. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      These are for two people though.

    2. Re:Awesome! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure, the back seat doesn't seem particularly spacious for that purpose.

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    3. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No more wasting time in the phone booth, I'm a busy man with places to do!

    4. Re:Awesome! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's boring indeed. It would be more fun if they hosted at least 5...

    5. Re:Awesome! by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      You're not very creative then.

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    6. Re:Awesome! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      Paris has these too (autolib), but with special programming that prevents them to be driven to "interesting" areas such as the Bois de Boulogne...

    7. Re:Awesome! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      That's what she said!

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    8. Re:Awesome! by zlives · · Score: 1

      dont worry it will be live broadcast so many willl share the experience.

    9. Re:Awesome! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I couldn't help but think of the "Johnny Cab."

  2. Just be done with it. by retech · · Score: 3, Funny

    With the chronic obesity issues modern societies face, you may as well just put large scoops on the front of these to make it easier to pick up and drop off their human cargo.

    1. Re:Just be done with it. by Xicor · · Score: 1

      the UK isnt anywhere near as fat as the US.

    2. Re:Just be done with it. by Tx · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to the chart on this page (direct link to chart), we (UK) are in third place behind the USA and Mexico. It is a big jump up to US levels though, but we're working on it.

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    3. Re:Just be done with it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your lack of understanding of how people lose weight or gain it is showing in your comment.

    4. Re:Just be done with it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the chronic obesity issues modern societies face, you may as well just put large scoops on the front of these to make it easier to pick up and drop off their human cargo.

      And eventually they'll be installed on a spaceship.

    5. Re:Just be done with it. by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Why? Are you craving for Soylent Green?

    6. Re:Just be done with it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YEAHHHHHH!!!!!!! USA #1 suck it losers fuck yeah!

    7. Re:Just be done with it. by blackraven14250 · · Score: 1

      There are some more recent numbers than those.

    8. Re:Just be done with it. by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

      According to the chart on this page (direct link to chart), we (UK) are in third place behind the USA and Mexico. It is a big jump up to US levels though, but we're working on it.

      OT, but Japan was also top in the international intelligence poll. A couple more years of language study and this American and his wife are moving west.

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  3. Really? by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the benefit of non-UK residents:

    Milton Keynes is the butt of every joke going.

    You could put free money in it, and people would still drive around it to avoid it.

    1. Re:Really? by Manic+Miner · · Score: 5, Informative

      While that's a fair comment - it is the butt of jokes. However it is usually from people who've never actually lived there, and those who are such bad drivers they can't cope with a roundabout ;) It's build on a grid system, so would be familiar to US readers, only instead of traffic light intersections it has roundabouts. What this means in practice is that using the major roads it's possible to get everywhere quickly and easily, even in rush hour you don't get caught for too long. Because these grid roads are also isolated from the housing areas, usually by banks or trees the road noise is not too bad either, and it has lots of parks open space and water. Yes it's a bit soulless but practically it's very well thought out.

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    2. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I lived there for a few years and hated it. But then I'm a Wimbledon AFC fan.

    3. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's build on a grid system, so would be familiar to US readers, only instead of traffic light intersections it has roundabouts. What this means in practice is that using the major roads it's possible to get everywhere quickly and easily, ...

      ...if you only ever need to make left turns.

    4. Re:Really? by MiggyMan · · Score: 1

      It's like they took a town and sucked out all of the joy and soul.

      And added roundabouts.

      I do like the train stations though.

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    5. Re:Really? by somersault · · Score: 1

      I think you mean if the people to the right of you only need to make left turns.

      But you're still incorrect, because they seem to work fine in general.

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    6. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what explains the quarter million population?

    7. Re:Really? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      ...and added roundabouts.

      Doesn't that apply to all of Britain? (... and all of Europe nowadays, for that matter...)

    8. Re:Really? by andyjb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...stealing a great line from Terry Pratchett: Note for Americans and other aliens: Milton Keynes is a new city approximately halfway between London and Birmingham. It was built to be modern, efficient, healthy, and, all in all, a pleasant place to live. Many Britons find this amusing.

    9. Re:Really? by noh8rz10 · · Score: 2

      sex

    10. Re:Really? by mrbester · · Score: 1

      If you really like roundabouts, you'll love the roundabout of roundabouts in Hemel Hempstead...

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    11. Re: Really? by Suferick · · Score: 1

      The roundabout of roundabouts is the M25. Also doubles as a car park.

    12. Re:Really? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      only instead of traffic light intersections it has roundabouts. What this means in practice is that using the major roads it's possible to get everywhere quickly and easily, even in rush hour you don't get caught for too long.

      Roundabouts break down in high traffic. When a roundabout is at full capacity, you have to throw yourself into moving traffic without regard for safety. At least traffic lights give everyone a chance to go.

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    13. Re:Really? by cognoscentus · · Score: 1

      Well, I lived there six years, and for the first four I couldn't wait to leave, but grew very fond of it in the last two. Not the architecture or the public transport hostile, spread out grid system, but the cultural side of Milton Keynes appeared to be flourishing in that time, and appears to continue to do so.

      Numerous art centres, live music venues and leisure facilities, an active centre of business of commerce, and engulfing and adjoining various very pretty, but relatively affordable towns such as Stony Stratford, Woburn Sands and Newport Pagnell. But perhaps that's a grass-is-greener view now that I'm stuck in a sleepy town in South Bucks. If nothing else, you could get the hell out of the place really quickly using the express train on the Euston line.

      I think part of the cultural expansion is the financial vortex effect of London, pushing prices up throughout the home counties. It's about the first place outside the London ring of property inflation that the unsavoury artistic classes can afford. But I guess I shouldn't say any more, lest it becomes the next Hoxton...

    14. Re:Really? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      What's really needed is for municipalities to produce high-quality real-time traffic data and broadcast it for free to anyone in the area in which it is relevant. Commercial and/or volunteer services can relay it to interested far away parties. Then your GPS can make intelligent decisions about where you should go so as not to bog down the road network.

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    15. Re:Really? by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Roundabouts break down in high traffic. When a roundabout is at full capacity, you have to throw yourself into moving traffic without regard for safety. At least traffic lights give everyone a chance to go.

      I'm assuming that's why the larger roundabouts have traffic lights. This seems to be better than the alternative, which is to have more than a single digit percentage of road users who know how box junctions work.

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    16. Re:Really? by nukenerd · · Score: 2

      While that's a fair comment - it is the butt of jokes. However it is usually from people who've never actually lived there, and those who are such bad drivers they can't cope with a roundabout ;)

      You don't need to live there to encounter the roundabouts, and you do not have to be a bad driver to dislike them. The first time I drove my son to uni my route (A421) took me through that area. Every roundabout caused a luggage avalanche, and they were every few hundred yards for no apparent good reason. Perhaps they came into their own in the rush hour, but this wasn't. Found a different route next time.

      The place looked so dreary that I asked my son (who was map-reading) where the heart of the city was. He said he believed it didn't have one - which sums up all I have heard about it.

    17. Re:Really? by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      what explains the quarter million population?

      It was cheap to buy a house there, at least when it was first built. I knew several people who moved there for that reason.

    18. Re:Really? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1
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    19. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even knowing how box junctions work doesn't help much with longer vehicles, crossing traffic has to start crossing in front of each other and the rules break down and only judgement and cooperation help ... which are in even shorter supply than knowledge.

    20. Re:Really? by Sketchly · · Score: 0

      I've never been near the place, but I dislike it intensely. You have to, if you're English, don't you?

  4. The reason this will fail isn't the technology by Rande · · Score: 2

    It's that unsupervised, these things and things like it will be vandalized, stolen, and used as public toilets.

    1. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by Xest · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You could say the same about Boris bikes in London but I don't think that's really been the case to date, though I haven't followed their story closely so maybe I'm wrong.

    2. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Isn't that what they said about Boris Bikes?

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    3. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      You could say the same about Boris bikes in London

      It's harder to have sex on the privacy of your bike...

    4. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      They are built like tanks. You should need a welding torch to damage one. Yet still, they are constantly being destroyed and replaced.

    5. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      It's that unsupervised, these things and things like it will be vandalized, stolen, and used as public toilets.

      They could mitigate this problem by requiring a credit card to enter, and keeping a video camera trained on the occupants. People misbehave less when they know they'll be held accountable.

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    6. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by sa1lnr · · Score: 1

      You do know that the so called Boris bikes were in fact instigated by Ken Livingstone?

    7. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      It's that unsupervised, these things and things like it will be vandalized, stolen, and used as public toilets.

      They could mitigate this problem by requiring a credit card to enter,

      You're telling me that vandals need a credit card to vandalise something these days? I must be falling behind the times.

    8. Re:The reason this will fail isn't the technology by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      ... and copied from the Velib bike system in Paris.

  5. Sounds like PRT by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    To me it sounds a lot like an implementation of 'Personal Rapid Transit', and it's hardly 'mixing with pedestrians' if they're getting their own dedicated pathways.

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    1. Re:Sounds like PRT by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      it's hardly 'mixing with pedestrians' if they're getting their own dedicated pathways.

      Aren't these dedicated pathways just for a limited time transition period, until the system will be fully debugged...?

    2. Re:Sounds like PRT by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Doesn't say so in the article, making me think they'd have to be more or less permanent.

      Besides, you can't really debug 'safe around people/crowds' unless your vehicle actually encounters them. One would have a better shot at 'until technology allowing them to coexist with pedestrians is developed', but that's likely long enough that at that point you'd deploy a new solution entirely.

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  6. Milton Keynes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Milton Keynes is an awful, car-dominated dystopia

    It's like what someone living in the 1970s thought a nice new town would be like

    1. Re:Milton Keynes by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

      BTW, the term "new town" in this context is from a development plan to create more urban areas, not simply a reference to its age.

    2. Re:Milton Keynes by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      I also live in one of the towns on that list. While it's not Milton Keynes - thank God - it is still, nevertheless, a shithole.

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  7. Good Omens by burning_plastic · · Score: 2

    "Note for Americans and other aliens: Milton Keynes is a new city approximately halfway between London and Birmingham. It was built to be modern, efficient, healthy, and, all in all, a pleasant place to live. Many Britons find this amusing." -- T. Pratchett and N. Gaiman, Good Omens

    We used to go bowling there when I was little as it was the only place within an hour's drive with a bowling alley... I mostly remember parts being very empty and then almost never-ending lines of roundabouts (although at least they were in straight lines unlike Swindon)...

    1. Re:Good Omens by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      and then almost never-ending lines of roundabouts (although at least they were in straight lines unlike Swindon)...

      Well where's the fun in that?

      - A Swindonian.

  8. Best "driver-less" innovation: no huge windshield by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    I live in an area where there are a lot of road-crossing deer. I can't wait for the day when there are driverless cars so we can retire the idea of using a huge piece of glass to protect us from road hazards. Looks like they're on the right track with this gizmo. (However, if they deploy it on a UK campus, it'll only take about a day before someone covers the bottom with black half-sphere and slaps on an eye-stalk.)

  9. Bike & bikepaths anyone? by captainpanic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Netherlands has built a dedicated infrastructure for vehicles moving at around 12 mph on average, for one or two people. They are bike lanes, and it totally rules. The Netherlands has by far the highest percentage of cyclists, and a very low number of accidents.

    So, I applaud the initiative to build some pathways where cars are banned, but I hope that these people do themselves a favor and allow cyclists to use these paths too. At least with a bike you don't have to wait for some pod to pass by, because it is already parked in front of the door. And in case of a hurry, you can just bike a bit faster.

    Special pathways without cars: good idea.
    Slow small expensive pods: probably a useless idea.

    1. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rain, Snow & Ice anyone?

      Just sayin...

    2. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      yes but MK is car central the pedestrian crossings from one side of main shopping center have big signs saying that cars have priority on a pedestrian crossing FFS.

    3. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by royallthefourth · · Score: 1

      It's no problem for people in Copenhagen. Minneapolis also has a pretty big modal share for bikes, in American terms. The infrastructure and vehicles are cheap to build, take up little space, are far less deadly, and cause no air or noise pollution. I'd love to see bike infrastructure built up everywhere.

      http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/11/copenhagen-cycling-in-snow.html

    4. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Milton Keynes already did this with the Redways. Complete separate system of parts for bikes. Which, according to cycling expert John Franklin, turned out to be utter crap. Two decades of the Redway cycle paths in Milton Keynes.

    5. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by louic · · Score: 1

      Slow small expensive pods: probably a useless idea.

      Except for a pub crawl.

    6. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      I wish. They used to have that but they took them down. Now presumably I'm expected to stop for those pesky pedestrians.

    7. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      Double points for a blind person remember "drive offensively"

    8. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by Miletos · · Score: 1

      Dutch guy here.

      Rain:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkgKYjrNLwg

      Snow & Ice:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rETLfzQrIw

      I'll admit it can be dangerous when it's been snowing. It really requires a culture of cycling, where governments try to keep roads (incl bikepaths) clear of snow at all times & traffic participants are considerate to other road users.

    9. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by Sperbels · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see bike infrastructure built up everywhere.

      Agreed. I think a lot of people see biking as too much trouble. But as a 40 year old smoker who recently started biking. It's really not as bad as you think. I'm still amazed at how fast and easy it is to bike several miles across the city (Denver) on a dedicated path. If only the dedicated paths went to more places (especially my office and the grocery store), I'd have little reason to use my car (except in the winter).

    10. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      II'd love to see bike infrastructure built up everywhere.

      Disagreed. Bike infrastructure is generally designed by people who do not have a clue about cycling, or who's cycling experience is done at slow jogging pace. Like putting Give-Way lines across the cycleway even where private driveways emerge. These "facilities" are also considered fair game for siting street furniture (just Google images for the book "Crap Cycle Lanes"), as well as unofficial stuff like parked cars, roadworks dumps and broken glass.

      The idea of bike infrastucture was once vigourously opposed by cycling groups, at least until about 1970. The reason for the change is in the general lowering standard of bike riding. Most present-day cyclists seem to regard the pedals as like a switch to make the bike move, not something to put effort in. My bike riding speed is 18-20 mph, faster than a car can average in a city, and I would rather mix with cars than with pedestrians who are nearly stationary and totally unpredictable.

    11. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      Rain, Snow & Ice anyone?

      What are you, a pussy?

      Wait, no, those actually like the concept of 'ploughing' and getting wet. Or so I've been told.

    12. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Sounds to me like the people having cycle accidents on redways are people that are cycling too fast for the conditions.

      Just like with cars, a percentage of people seem oblivious to the way more speed adds more risk.

    13. Re:Bike & bikepaths anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Netherlands the VAST majority of cycling is done at a slow jogging place (from your perspective) and has always been done at that pace ... that said, on roads with bike lanes cyclists now have the same right of way as car traffic.

      Racing cyclists are completely predictable BTW. If they can find some way to not have to come to a stop which doesn't result in their death with a 100% certainty, they will take it.

  10. From rail station to shopping centre...(and back?) by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Funny

    Initially the driverless cars will ferry passengers from the town's rail station to its shopping centre just over a mile away – currently a 20-minute uphill walk.

    Both ways?

  11. Alternatively by rossdee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You could get safer road with (I)Pod-less drivers (And iPadless and iPhoneless too of course)

    Milton Keynes ? Wasn't he an economist?
    and maybe a poet...

  12. Re:From rail station to shopping centre...(and bac by bosah · · Score: 1

    and what hill ? It's a slight incline in places if it's anything, the use of the word hill is stretching it a bit.

  13. concrete cows by noh8rz10 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For those of you who don't know, the concrete cows of milton keynes. How could the summary not include this link?

    1. Re:concrete cows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks. Now, why did they give a town a name that brings to mind (A supply side economics and (B red Swingline staplers?

    2. Re:concrete cows by noh8rz10 · · Score: 1

      how come nobody modded this up? I thought it would be great karma-bait.

  14. Similar system in 2001 by krouic · · Score: 1

    A similar system was demonstrated in Switzerland 10 years ago, but was considered as not viable and never implemented since.

    http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serpentine.ch%2Fp_realisations%2FPilote_Ouchy.html (sorry original site only in french)

    1. Re:Similar system in 2001 by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      The same system they are going to use in Milton Keynes is already on use at Heathrow airport ferrying passengers between terminals.

  15. I was born a few miles from MK by Skiron · · Score: 0

    ... but never lived there. It is a terrible place to live. For you Yanks, think 1960's NY City + Chicago combined with a touch of muslims (no offence).

    1. Re:I was born a few miles from MK by DexterIsADog · · Score: 1

      And 60's NYC was bad how? I lived there, it totally ruled! It got even more fun in the 70's. Now Times Square is an antiseptic hell hole of Disney and other plastic megacorps.

    2. Re:I was born a few miles from MK by Skiron · · Score: 1

      If you lived there in the 60's then you wasn't there.

    3. Re:I was born a few miles from MK by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      but never lived there. It is a terrible place to live.

      But how would you know?

      combined with a touch of muslims (no offence).

      Just because you say it in brackets, doesn't make it true.

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    4. Re:I was born a few miles from MK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the quote is, "if you remember the 60's then you weren't there"

  16. Law of unintended consequences by DrXym · · Score: 1

    I wonder how long it will take for the locals to devise ways of griefing these pods - forcing them to stop dead if they detect a plastic bottle in their way, slapping a burger wrapper over the sensors or something similar. I could see the entire system failing right there. It's a problem that self driving cars would face assuming they ever moved beyond a pipe dream.

    1. Re:Law of unintended consequences by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Sure, what's to stop a punk from knifing the tires on your car at any time? Nothing.

    2. Re:Law of unintended consequences by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      Sure, what's to stop a punk from knifing the tires on your car at any time? Nothing.

      Psychology. They know there would be a shitstorm which can make them uncomfotable even if not caught and convicted. However, people generally seem to regard vandalism to communal property as something inevitable, just a matter to shrug off as part of modern life.

    3. Re:Law of unintended consequences by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Knifing tyres is criminal damage. Throwing a coke bottle on the line is littering. It's easier to get away with. It's also easier to retreat to a safe distance and watch as a stupid system fails to safe over a coke bottle (or a strategically placed wrapper) and backs up all the way down the system. If the designers of this system don't don't anticipate this they don't understand human nature.

  17. I understand they won't allow Americans in them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that should up the number of posts!

  18. 2 passengers? Should be 3. by rreay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pod systems like this should always carry three passengers. If you are traveling with a group, 2 passenger pods can force part of your group to ride alone. Carrying 3 lets people ride with the group for groups any size.

  19. Re:From rail station to shopping centre...(and bac by mrbester · · Score: 1

    In the snow. And it's dark.

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  20. Re:From rail station to shopping centre...(and bac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not well known but Milton Keynes was designed by M. C Escher.

  21. War on Pedestrians? by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 2

    Let's put motorized carriages on the walk ways to harass, annoy and run over those on foot.
    Don't like it? Get in a pod or get in a car or take the bus.

    Even here in America we aren't as hostile to pedestrians.

  22. Cover your nose. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

    They shall soon acquire the scent of urine and vomit.

    1. Re:Cover your nose. by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

      They shall soon acquire the scent of urine and vomit.

      Yes, when the doors open. This is Milton Keynes we're talking about after all.

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  23. Number 6 by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

    Just as long as the pods are not giant white balls

  24. Re:2 passengers? Should be 3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously? ... 7 MOD 3 = 1

    Woosh

  25. Re:2 passengers? Should be 3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Woosh indeed.

    7 MOD 3 assumes you are going to pack each pod to capacity and then shove the remainder in the extra car.

    What GP is suggesting is that since 7 / 3 requires 3 cars anyway, people will arrange into a 3/2/2 configuration instead of 3/3/1.

  26. Re:From rail station to shopping centre...(and bac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever happend to the conspiracy group which claimed there was an underground bunker in MK, and that building it caused the incline?

  27. Re:From rail station to shopping centre...(and bac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would be great for skateboarders. I've often thought about building a town on a hill for skateboarders, with a ferry/ski-left style 1-way transport. I suppose you could do the same for skiers. But... who wants to lug around ski gear? And what to do in summer?

  28. Re:2 passengers? Should be 3. by rreay · · Score: 1

    Exactly.

  29. Done before... by TheSync · · Score: 1

    Morgantown Personal Rapid Transit entered operation in 1975. The PRT system includes 73 vehicles resembling miniature buses. It has five off-line stations that enable non-stop, individually programmed trips.

  30. This has been done before, move along folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Morgantown, WV, People Mover, since 1970:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgantown_Personal_Rapid_Transit

  31. More pork for car makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The taxpayers are being taken for a ride by this boondoggle.

  32. Aramis [Re:Done before...] by Rob+the+Roadie · · Score: 1

    Aramis was the high tech automated subway developed in Paris in the 1980s. After its sudden demise an investigation was requested into the reasons of this failure. Bruno Latour. While writing about Aramis's demise Latour describes ANT (Actor-Network Theory). In this book he argues that Aramis failed not because any particular Actor killed it but because it was not sustained through negotiation and adaptation to a changing social situation.

    See http://www.bruno-latour.fr/node/106

    I guess I'll be able to write the same about this project in a few years time.... and HS2... etc.......

  33. Finally. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the solution to public transportation woes.

  34. Most successful new town? by kriston · · Score: 1

    Most successful new town in England? If so, that's pretty depressing. Over a few visits I was struck by the sheer number of empty office buildings and shuttered storefronts both in the city center and on the outskirts.

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    Kriston

  35. Pedestrian by ralphaostrander · · Score: 1

    Kick that thing over on its side.

  36. Biased bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Most successful new town in the UK"? Says you? Did you run it through your successometer and get a really high reading? I guess you're a Milton Keynes PR man, wrapping up a hard days work of synergizing high-return growth opportunities.

    This article should have been rejected straight away just for the first sentence.