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Only 25% of Yahoo Staff "Eat Their Own Dog Food"
nk497 writes "Only 25% of Yahoo staff have obeyed the company's request to 'eat their own dog food' and switch to Yahoo Mail, a colorful internal memo has revealed. The leaked email, acquired by All Things Digital, implores staff to move over to the corporate version of Yahoo's webmail system, gently lambasting staff who refuse to part with Microsoft Outlook. The message goes on to take a swipe at what appears to be Yahoo employees' preferred mail client, Microsoft Outlook, describing it as 'anachronism of the now defunct 90s PC era, a pre-web program written at a time when NT Server terrorized the data center landscape with the confidence of a T-Rex born to yuppie dinosaur parents who fully bought into the illusion of their son's utter uniqueness because the big-mouthed, tiny-armed monster infant could mimic the gestures of The Itsy-Bitsy Pterodactyl.'"
Another reasonable approach from might be to task, "How does our service need to change, in order for our own employees to want to use it?"
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when NT Server terrorized the data center landscape with the confidence of a T-Rex born to yuppie dinosaur parents who fully bought into the illusion of their son's utter uniqueness because the big-mouthed, tiny-armed monster infant could mimic the gestures of The Itsy-Bitsy Pterodactyl.
I think that dogfood's gone bad and grown some mushrooms. Also, how does a T-Rex imitate a Pterodactyl... flapping its little arms vainly?
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web mail for enterprise?
I'm sure the employee's reaction was the same as everyone else's: Yahoo still has email?
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What is the point of this? When I log in to yahoo email it takes forever to search because the bing search takes forever to load. If you type too quickly, you just see your whole inbox. So they criticize their employees to leave outlook and use Yahoo mail?
Not that outlook search is any better (can't find parts of a word), but this whole dogfood is serious. Maybe they should stop using Windows at work or using Office while their at it.
"Microsoft Outlook, describing it as 'anachronism of the now defunct 90s PC era, a pre-web program written at a time when NT Server terrorized the data center landscape with the confidence of a T-Rex born to yuppie dinosaur parents who fully bought into the illusion of their son's utter uniqueness because the big-mouthed, tiny-armed monster infant could mimic the gestures of The Itsy-Bitsy Pterodactyl."
Individually the words make sense, but put them together and you can clearly see why Yahoo is where it is.
Most companies essentially mandate the use of Outlook and have MS Exchange as their back end.
As bad as Outlook is, it's still better than any webmail solution.
They'll discover quickly that those products hurt and they have an incentive to make them better.
FTFY. Yahoo mail. Abysmal.
Every time I go there on the web, I am told to upgrade to a Firefox that has been optimized for Yahoo, and then I get told to pick a new theme. Every damn time.
At least the quality is consistently 'neo', both for groups and email.
... why do I suspect it'll be the managers who are the last to be dragged, kicking and screaming, from Outlook?
I use Yahoo mail and Outlook. Outlook definitely has its place, especially in a business. Tell me though, because I haven't looked: can Yahoo's calendar let you see everyone else's free time when inviting people to a meeting? As easily as Outlook does?
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Email is just fucking email, all we want is to get messages from other people and respond. But since the powers that be have had their focus on setting things up to be so different, it's a pain in the ass to move things over. As if it's like that by design, hmm go figure.
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Most companies... except for IBM which mandates Lotus Notes. Which is the worst email program I've ever used (outside of BSD Mail).
I think most of Yahoo's problems stem from the fact that the hire programmers that use Outlook?
Outlook is terrible.
It's still leaps and bounds better than any other option for a workplace.
I don't know if YaHoo mail, Hotmail or Gmail is any good, I use Forte Agent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forté_Agent must copy and paste the é throws a loop.
and POP 3 my e-mail, everything to Gmail then to me. I use version Agent 1.93 (very old, very good).
I get no HTML mail, it's all in text unless I want to view it, I send no web beacons when
I read my mail. I send no it's been read replies.
It's the safest most secure e-mail system I've come across and been using it since Win 3.1.
None of my Email stays on a web service, and I have every email I've sent and received (for some reason).
Just saying YaHoo Pop 3 your email, you take the kool aide, yet they don't know of the outcome.
You use the YaHoo service but at your convince and in a secure fashion.
(Now I just hope Yahoo POP3's their Email, I got a Yahoo account when they were "Google" (before) but :} )
never use it
I think most of Yahoo's problems stem from the fact that the hire programmers that use Outlook?
Outlook is terrible.
It's still leaps and bounds better Ihan any other option for a workplace.
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @09:41AM (#45521113)
Yes, tons of people use Outlook. It's leaps and bounds better than Yahoo mail or any duct-taped together, freetard solution.
Trolling as AC as well, I see?
As if there is any difference whatsoever between '@yahoo.com' vs '@gmail.com'. Anyone who claims such is too superficial to take seriously.
I had been a faithful Yahoo up until about six months ago. MyYahoo was great, and I liked the classic version of Yahoo Mail. Then Marissa Mayer came along and wrecked everything, adding bling and fancy colors while stripping away everything I liked about Yahoo, including the fact that I had it set up to look the same for about the past 10 years. I guess some people think it was time to spruce up the place. Not me. It's Mayer's Mayhem now.
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I'll go one further and say Exchange/Outlook is better than anything other app in it's class. I always hear people bashing Exchange/Outlook in here, but I never hear anyone say product x does it better. For Enterprise Email/Contacts/Tasks/Calendar/Collaboration the closest product is Lotus Notes and that truly sucks arse. So before you label me a shill, I'd like to hear about your replacement candidate. I have no connection to MS, I've just been down that path of finding competition and found nothing but donkeys (in this space).
I liked the old version where I could see every reply I got in its own thread. This new version forces all replies into a single thread, so if you get more than one reply, you might not see the new ones. I'm a fan of yahoo mail. I liked the last version best. Too bad you can't go back to it. Yahoo has been doing a lot of pointless upgrades on things that already work and don't need new functionality. They pissed off their fantasy sports people that way too. I think corporations know they can upgrade and regress software at the same time so they can get you to pay more for something you already had. I'm not saying yahoo is guilty of this. Otherwise it wouldn't be a forced upgrade, and you'd have your choice of mail clients.
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Yeah, this is unfortunately quite true.
Our company would LOVE to migrate everyone away from Outlook and Exchange for multiple reasons. First and foremost, it encourages the use of the email system as an all purpose filing system, yet turns around and imposes severe limits on the number of objects it can handle before performance degrades and functions simply quit working properly. (I believe the speed and memory capacity of the client have some bearing on what the limit is for a particular user, but I've often heard recommendations to keep it under 1,000 or so objects per folder. That may sound like a lot until you realize people often have more than that in their Outlook calendar alone, if they've worked for the company for 4 or 5 years and never thought to try to delete any scheduled appointments or entries that happened in the past. Not only that, but recurring entries, such as "schedule my staff meeting every Wednesday at 1PM through the end of 2015" create separate entries for EACH occurrence!)
Regardless, there's really not much of anything out there that's provably better. Zimbra looks interesting as a possible web-based alternative? But mostly, people really like all of this data stored (or at least cached) locally on the computer running the client, for fast access and ability to work with everything even when offline. Combine that with the functionality Outlook/Exchange provides -- and it's a tall order to match or beat it with another product.
So I open up a bunch of FB notifications and they all appear in tabs. Once the horizontal of the tabs is filled, an arrow down tab appears, letting you access extra tabs, right? Wrong. It lists ALL the tabs, nd you have to scroll down to the end to find the most recent ones...
Now, over the years my eyes are not as good as they were, so I have to CTRL-+ a few times to be able to read stuff easily. So, the entire interface scales up and the stupid tabs and wasted space crowd out the text, leaving me with one or two lines of text to type into. Heck - I have the same mag here in slashdot, and I can see most of my post so far.
And then some times when I open Yahoo it barks at me that my screen res is too low (which is bullshit - it's 1920 x 1280 as usual).
And while I detest Google's threaded system, at least when you start typing someone's name in the search bar, it automagically finds the person you're looking for.
Yahoo would be better stripping down the UI - reduce the glitz and colours, ditch the tabbed UI, and just make something that WORKS.
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All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less.