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Australian Icebreaker Tries To Get Through To Stranded Antarctic Research Ship

The shipload of researchers and tourists stuck in the Antarctic ice are still stuck. A Chinese icebreaker, the Xue Long, or Snow Dragon, has gotten tantalizingly close but was hampered by "unusually thick ice." Now, an Australian vessel, the Aurora Australis, will attempt to rescue the 74 people aboard the MV Akademik Shokalskiy.

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  1. Vague News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I love how the NYT and BBC reports on this story completely neglect to mention that the stuck ship is full of climate scientists out to gather global warming evidence. Just a complete oversight I'm sure. Also: consensus.

    1. Re:Vague News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25540040 ...
      Seventy-four scientists, tourists and crew are on the Shokalskiy. ...
      Despite being trapped, the scientists have continued their experiments, measuring temperature and salinity through cracks in the surrounding ice. ...
      The goal of the modern-day Australasian Antarctic Expedition is to repeat many of the original measurements and studies of the Mawson expedition to see how facets of the environment have changed over the past century. ...

      Completely neglected? Are we looking at the same BBC reports?

    2. Re:Vague News by dbIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even if we are totally uninteresting and irrelevant there's quite a few people from there reading this site and adding stuff while your part of the world is asleep. That's why.

  2. Aurora Australis by bloodhawk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Web cam for Aurora, hopefully will be on when they are getting close http://www.antarctica.gov.au/webcams/aurora '

    1. Re:Aurora Australis by XaXXon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was wondering why they only operate in the northern hemisphere.

      It's because it requires cold water to cool its reactor. Tropic water is apparently not cold enough, so it can't get to the southern hemisphere without exploderating. Or something.

  3. Re:Send the American icebreaker! by growingtedium · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I do wonder who is going to be paying for these rescue attempts.

  4. Copyrighted materials of the Church Of Warminetics by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Naturally, the appearance in the middle of the summer of ice so thick that the icebreakers of multiple polefaring nations cannot penetrate it is proof of anthropogenic warming. You criticize our teachings in any way, and we will beat you to death with our sacred hockey sticks in the East District of Texas. Meanwhile, our last hope is to send in Chuck Norris with a shipload of thermite.

  5. Re:I thought that... by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, of course: Because when the average temperature in December rises from -18 C to -16 C means that it's impossible for water to even consider freezing.

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  6. How is ice forming in the summer? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am aware Antarctica is one of the coldest places on earth, yet when I lived 60 degrees away from the equator in Alaska it never got down to 7F (the degree in which salt water freezes) by summer. It would not even hit freezing until September or October?!This is not 90 degrees on the dead center of the geographic south pole or anything and is surrounded by water which moderates the climate.

    The ice should be rapidly melting?!

    1. Re:How is ice forming in the summer? by GumphMaster · · Score: 5, Informative

      The ice-strengthened vessel is within 100nm of Dumont D'Urville with a typical December daytime temperature hovering around freezing (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDT60803/IDT60803.89642.shtml). This ice did not suddenly appear in clear water because it got cold, the ship was sailing through broken ice floes when weather conditions pushed the ice and the ship into tight formation. The water between the sheets froze and the rest, as they say, is history.

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    2. Re:How is ice forming in the summer? by CrankyFool · · Score: 3, Funny

      At that kind of distance, is it really even worth mentioning? If I'm 100 nanometers away from something, I don't say "I'm 100nm away from X," I say "I'm right next to X." Why don't they just disembark now?

  7. I hope by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope they don't get eaten by the polar bears

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  8. Re: Send the American icebreaker! by BancBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

    As regards US Maritime law, I can offer this -

    Copy and pasted from http://www.maritimeinjurylawyersblog.com/2013/02/rescues_at_sea_the_united_stat.html

    According to federal law, 45 USC Section 2304, the master of a vessel must aid anyone at sea who is in danger of losing their lives, as long as such rescue can be performed without serious threat to the master, the master’s vessel, and those on board. However, maritime law is in agreement with common law in that an individual, including a vessel master, has this statutory duty to assist those in peril at sea only when a certain relationship exists, such as carrier/passenger, vessel/seaman, and employer/employee; also, whoever has caused a danger at sea must aid any persons or property they have endangered. Further, whether because of an established relationship or as a Good Samaritan, if an individual attempts a rescue which results in further harm due to negligence, recklessness, or wantonness, he or she may be held liable for damages.

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  9. Two standard deviations more by jamesl · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Antarctic Sea Ice Extent is currently more than two standard deviations greater than the 1981 to 2010 average according to the NSIDC.
    http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_stddev_timeseries.png

    Not what one would expect in a warming climate. Or maybe it is ... ex post.
    Antarctica Sea Ice Reaches Record High: Doesn't Refute Global Warming
    http://guardianlv.com/2013/09/antarctic-sea-ice-at-record-high-doesnt-refute-global-warming/

  10. Re:Vauge conclusions by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But scientists have been equating ice levels with climate for decades.....

  11. Re:Vauge conclusions by dinog · · Score: 4, Informative
    I'll help you finish that thought :

    But scientists have been equating ice levels with climate for decades.....

    ... and the average ice levels have been falling dramatically in most locations over the long term.

  12. Re:Antarctica ... Ice by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also why use ice area/volume as a standard of the global temperature?

    ..perhaps because for years we have been told that shrinking ice area/volume was a standard indicator of global warming.

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  13. Re:Send the American icebreaker! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think we need to pause and think about the what's really behind the story here:

    The Russians put our camera made by our German scientists and your film made by your German scientists into their satellite made by their German scientists.

    This rescue will end when the a US nuclear submarine pops up through the ice sheet, and a bunch of marines in snow gear jump out. But then a Russian airplane will toss out a bunch of paratroopers in snow gear will land.

    A suspenseful standoff is guaranteed . . .

    This stranded tourists and scientists story is just a cover for the public to hide what is really going on . . .

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  14. Re:Vauge conclusions by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Remember, boys and girls: melting ice proves that the climate is warming up; freezing ice in midsummer, on the other hand, proves that the climate is warming up.

  15. Re:I thought that... by dbIII · · Score: 3, Informative

    or antarctic

    No they did not. If that happens most of us are going to need really long snorkels. If you are going to suggest that others are lying it's best not to lie to do so - otherwise you come off as being dishonest.