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No Question: Snowden Was 2013's Most Influential Tech Figure

Nerval's Lobster writes "Lots of CEOs, entrepreneurs, and developers made headlines in 2013—but in hindsight, Edward Snowden will likely stand as this year's most influential figure in technology. In June, Snowden began feeding top-secret documents detailing the National Security Agency's surveillance programs to The Guardian and other newspapers. Much of that information, downloaded by Snowden while he served as a system administrator at an NSA outpost in Hawaii, suggested that the U.S. government swept up massive amounts of information on ordinary Americans as part of its broader operations. Whatever one's feelings on the debate over privacy and security, it's undeniable that Snowden's documents have increased general awareness of online vulnerability; but whether that's sparked an increased use of countermeasures—including encryption tools—is another matter entirely. On the developer side of things, when you consider the sheer amount of money, time, and code that'll be invested over the next few years in encryption and encryption-breaking, it's clear that Snowden's influence will be felt for quite some time to come—even if the man himself is trapped in Russian exile."

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  1. I Think I Was ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it was the guy mentioned in this article.

  2. Feel free to continue the recursion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it was the guy mentioned in this article.

    I think it was the guy mentioned in this article.

  3. You can smell the fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...that the federal government has. And it's not the muslim jihadists they're worried about. It's us.

    1. Re:You can smell the fear... by deconfliction · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...that the federal government has. And it's not the muslim jihadists they're worried about. It's us.

      Indeed, and since it seems so apropos to link to and quote slashdot today-

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4606965&cid=45806859
      "
      The insecurity is on the side of the NSA.
      They wouldn't go through such hoops if we didn't have the most powerful freedom tool ever, namely the Internet.

      Use it properly and they shall vanish.
      "

    2. Re:You can smell the fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "us" != slashdot posters.
      "us" == the entire American citizenry.

      In other words, the government now considers its own citizens to be its biggest enemy.

    3. Re:You can smell the fear... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Then I'd say we're doing our job as citizens. Now on to the next problem to solve, "Who's the asshole that started this?"

    4. Re:You can smell the fear... by alexo · · Score: 1

      ...that the federal government has. And it's not the muslim jihadists they're worried about. It's us.

      -1 delusional.

      The federal government does not fear "you".
      "You" have neither the will nor the means to effectively oppose them.
      Hell, "you" can't even inconvenience them.
      "You" are not even a blip on their radar.
      "You" are nothing but a resource to be exploited.

      The only thing Showden accomplished is reassuring the powers that be that they can get away with anything and don't even have to hide their misdeeds anymore.

    5. Re:You can smell the fear... by khallow · · Score: 1

      Just because someone isn't upset, doesn't mean that they can't be considered a threat.

  4. Slashdot linking to Slashdot by x_IamSpartacus_x · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why the hell is this here? There have already been like 50 other stories about how important Snowden was/is and now /. feels it's important to post a ridiculously redundant story of their own that is JUST A BUNCH OF OTHER LINKS to other news sites? WTF /.?

    Seriously...

    wtf???

    1. Re:Slashdot linking to Slashdot by deconfliction · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, it is getting ridiculous. All of this info has been suspected, and the paranoids were already taking steps to protect themselves. Most average people don't care and have much bigger issues to deal with that really will affect their lives.

      Thing is, "most average people" aren't the ones who shape human society for the next generation. Edward Snowden did that.

      It isn't like he invented something cool, advanced society through developing new technologies, or accomplished anything. He went in with an agenda and was able to hack the system from the inside, now he has some power and fame.

      I like to also think his Agenda was to "invent" a cool new world, where instead of NSA spook-community running completely rampant and rough-shod toward a dystopian neo-Stasi future, we now get to know and mitigate the threat to the 4th ammendment that they represent. That's is a freaking cool invention if you ask me. I'll take it over the crap that "most average people" like yourself churn out.

    2. Re:Slashdot linking to Slashdot by celle · · Score: 1

      "yeah, the average grade-school science experiment outshines Snowden's actual deed:"

            Except the average grade-school "" isn't life ending. And understand if Snowden had been caught it's most likely he'd be locked away by now for nailing the 'adults' playing their childish games.

    3. Re:Slashdot linking to Slashdot by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

      When your house is burning down around you, the topic may come up a bit more frequently than you'd like. But some situations are so dire, so tragic, that when they occur they eclipse all that surround them.

    4. Re:Slashdot linking to Slashdot by deconfliction · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know I shouldn't feed trolls, but...

      "You want to call him the most influential person in politics, fine... but tech? I think we can do better."

      Are you KIDDING me? He may not personally design the devices and write the code that we are using for the next 10 years, but *you can sure bet* that he seriously impacted those designs and that code by revealing the proof and scope, if not the existence of the insecurities that were rampant in the prior devices and code.

      We will be buying fundamentally more secure devices with fundamentally more secure programming in the coming years, due *primarily* to Snowden's revelations. Dinging him for being more like the tech-CEO who merely gets to decide the direction of development instead of writing the actual code seems just plain silly. Compared to the influence all the other tech-CEOs had in 2013 on the future of computing technology, I'd say Snowden wins hands down. No question. It's a different tech _landscape_ today because of him. What other tech person had a greater change on the nature of the technology we will use in the coming decade?

    5. Re:Slashdot linking to Slashdot by fido_dogstoyevsky · · Score: 1

      there is no need to use Google docs. Using those services is your choice

      I have as much choice about that as people who work in a Windows shop have about using MS Excel and Word.

      None, unless I want to find a new job.

      I worked in a "Windows shop" and had no problem keeping my job while using OpenOffice.org (from the time it was still Star Office).

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    6. Re:Slashdot linking to Slashdot by khallow · · Score: 1

      Pick any one of a number of IP lawsuits or tech mergers, and you can call out a dozen names that have been more influential in the past year, contrasted against what you say Snowden will influence.

      Please, carry out this exercise. And we'll explain why you're wrong.

    7. Re:Slashdot linking to Slashdot by khallow · · Score: 1

      So, you can't name someone? The rest of us knew that it wasn't possible, but I get that this is how you cope with making mistakes.

  5. NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Der Spiegel reported on the NSA’s access to smartphones and, in particular, the iPhone back in September. Today, these reports expand to the NSA’s apparent ability to access just about all your iPhone data through a program called DROPOUTJEEP, according to security researcher Jacob Appelbaum.

    The NSA claims a 100% success rate in installing the malware on iPhones. Functionality includes the ability to remotely push/pull files from the device. SMS retrieval, contact list retrieval, voicemail, geolocation, hot mic, camera capture, cell tower location, etc. Command, control and data exfiltration can occur over SMS messaging or a GPRS data connection. All communications with the implant will be covert and encrypted.

    It is unknown whether the backdoor was developed in cooperation with Apple, but Appelbaum doubts it. Video of Appelbaum's full speech is included in the article.

    1. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

      And yet you *still* can't do a selective backup/restore.

    2. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by Chaz12 · · Score: 2

      The NSA and any national intelligence forces have ZERO access to messages that are encrypted 256 at source and only decrypted using long (eg 25 character non-dictionary) passwords that have been exchanged manually. Even a SuperComputer would take hundreds of thousands of years or more to crack these, and paper messages exchanged manually bypass ANY security altogether! So either stone-age bits of paper or very high tech encryption will suffice. If there is an additional random insert of characters based on a further password, decryption is totally impossible!

    3. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      "The initial release of DROPOUTJEEP will focus on installing the implant via close access methods. A remote installation ability will be pursued for a future release."

      This is exactly why I don't let my NSA friends borrow my iPhone.

      Seriously, though, the private sector has been doing this for years. Do you really think the NSA can't pwn a phone, or any other type of computer, given physical access or a remote root exploit?

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    4. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Only if you're typing in the cyphertext and doing the encryption/decryption off-device.
      If they've got root on your phone, no amount of encryption will prevent access to the data (hint, your phone has to decrypt it at some point so you can use it).

    5. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by deconfliction · · Score: 1

      mod parent up

    6. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      Were you looking for this?

    7. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      That's been obvious for years since there must be a very good reason why Obama isn't allowed to have an iPhone.

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    8. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Apple actually responded to the issue today after it was reported again yesterday:

      Apple has never worked with the NSA to create a backdoor in any of our products, including iPhone. Additionally, we have been unaware of this alleged NSA program targeting our products. We care deeply about our customers’ privacy and security. Our team is continuously working to make our products even more secure, and we make it easy for customers to keep their software up to date with the latest advancements. Whenever we hear about attempts to undermine Apple’s industry-leading security, we thoroughly investigate and take appropriate steps to protect our customers. We will continue to use our resources to stay ahead of malicious hackers and defend our customers from security attacks, regardless of who’s behind them.

      Also worth pointing out: in addition to Apple, Appelbaum also leaked the fact that Android and Blackberry have been similarly compromised, and that the NSA is even going so far as to intercept new smartphones en route to their destination and then install this software, before sending them on their way.

    9. Re:NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone by Guru80 · · Score: 1

      Apple is, as of right now, denying any cooperation but that's status-qua.

  6. What about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    William Binney & James Bamford? They just aren't the media personality Snowden is?

  7. Most influential in Technology? by dfn5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most influential maybe in terms of politics, but technology? What was the technology he pioneered or employed? Copy? Not very influential in my opinion.

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    1. Re:Most influential in Technology? by sribe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most influential maybe in terms of politics, but technology? What was the technology he pioneered or employed?

      Nothing. But his actions will have a huge influence on the future development and use of technology, thus it is reasonable to call him influential ;-)

    2. Re:Most influential in Technology? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Exactly. The guys at Nest created the internet of things, or made it viable. That will be remembered for centuries, even after Vint Cerf and von Neumann are forgotten. They created a thermostat.

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    3. Re:Most influential in Technology? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      You're conflating "influential" and "innovative". You don't have to make something to be able to have a significant influence on it, and there's little doubt that Snowden's actions have influenced how the general population looks at and thinks about technology in a major way. They're asking the sorts of questions about—and demanding the sorts of things from—technology that many of us here wished they had been asking and demanding a long time ago, and most of that is thanks to his revelations.

  8. Re:So sad .... by Nyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So sad that a criminal is listed as an influential person. Especially one so cowardly and spineless as to flee instead of actually staying and working towards what he believed in. I hope he lives to a ripe old age and has to spend his life constantly hiding in the shadows in fear. In countries with worse personal liberties and freedoms than the one he fled from.

    I'm sorry you feel this way. Very few people here feel that way, in fact, the only people here that feel that way you do usually work for the NSA.

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  9. Applied crypto is back... by mlts · · Score: 1

    One of the few good things I can say about this mess is that applied cryptography is back... something that hasn't been really fundamentally worked on since the mid-1990s when SSL/TLS and SSH were hammered out. People seem to be interested in PGP again, and cryptocurrencies are the rage with preeve saying one Bitcoin is worth $760 at this time.

    Of course, one has fears about yet another Internet-related bubble... but this is a place where people coming in to build new stuff is a very good thing. In fact, re-evaluating virtually everything isn't such a bad idea, provided it doesn't mean a blind wheel reinvention.

    Some inventions (such as perhaps having SSL use multiple root certificates and a threshold of trust) will have immediate payback. Others (like using FPGA cores to flip to a Harvard architecture to execute security sensitive code) are less real-world, but can eventually become useful at mitigating various types of attacks.

    With CPU-level hypervisors, deduplication and copy on write, giving each application not just its own individual memory space, but its own filesystem and system libraries becomes doable. This can further keep things separated.

    Of course, this can go one of two ways. We can get actual crypto that works, or a new generation of hucksters selling us black boxes with "trust us, this is secure. No, really, it is secure." as the only proof, similar to how a lot of cloud providers have SLAs of "don't worry, we are secure. We have passwords and firewalls".

  10. Off-topic question by barlevg · · Score: 1

    Snowden began feeding top-secret documents detailing the National Security Agency's surveillance programs to The Guardian and other newspapers.

    Does anyone know how Snowden decides which paper to leak which document to? For instance, The Washington Post seems to get more than its fair share. IIRC a plurality go to The Guardian. Is there some strategy behind where he leaks what? A cynical person would assume there's a bidding war going on, but most (legit) newspapers view it as unethical to pay for stories. [PDF]

    1. Re:Off-topic question by HBI · · Score: 1

      Snowden was interested in leaking to somewhere that wouldn't turn him over to the FBI instantly, and was out of the subpoena/no knock warrant power of the United States government. That's why the Guardian. It would be idiotic to give anything harmful to US interests to a US newspaper. Even if they wanted to play ball, the feds would be all over them with "National Security" letters.

      Snowden played this excessively smart, and that's the only reason he's sort of free now.

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    2. Re:Off-topic question by Strudelkugel · · Score: 2

      Snowden played this excessively smart, and that's the only reason he's sort of free now.

      I don't think Snowden is that smart or free. Today he does what the Russian government allows him to do. But consider the Russians have protesters in Moscow, protesters in Kiev, and suicide bombers in their midst. How long will the Russian government tolerate an icon for freedom from surveillance, especially given their history? I believe Snowden is in considerable danger.

      Another reference: Sergei Guriev

      Also Mikhail Khodorkovsky

      As for Snowden, I still think we know 10% or less of the story. There is a lot that does not make sense.

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    3. Re:Off-topic question by HBI · · Score: 2

      I don't think there is that much more to the Snowden story. The guy seems to be an idealist. Snowden is at risk in Russia, but he's at risk anywhere in the world. The US would like nothing better but to take him into custody. That's the sum total of his protection - his freedom amounts to thumbing a nose at the US government and pointing out its powerlessness. Same as the Soviet defectors back in the Cold War era.

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    4. Re:Off-topic question by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      I think most (all) of the documents got handed over to Greenwald. At first, Greenwald pushed most stuff through his employer, The Guardian, with a few other outlets to increase exposure outside the UK. Now it seems they will be used to help bootstrap a new venture that Greenwald is starting.

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  11. Re:So sad .... by jeff13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, you say 'the only people who feel this way usually work for the NSA'? I disagree.

    Everyone at the NSA is aware of their "First Commandment"; “Thou Shalt Not Eavesdrop on Americans Without a Court Warrant.” Something that went out the window during the Bush Administration under Gen. Hayden (former NSA directors have stated publically he broke the (FISA) law. One even flat out said he should have been court-marshialed). Snowden isn't the first to blow the whistle over at the NSA in the last few years, Thomas Drake being one I can think of off the top of my head and he was a senior official at the NSA! So I think the people at the NSA rtake their jobs seriously, their directors not so much. I'd lay blame where it's due I think.

    Oh and what happened to Thomas Drake? Jailed! as were others (there were, what, like, 5 people from the NSA who have spoken out since around 2006? That's a lot!) I have to ask myself, if I were Snowden and watched senior officials being jailed for revealing the NSA is spying on everyone, would I skip town? You bet yer fat arse I would! I'd skip town, get all the docs to the newspapers, and make those rat bastards answer to the People!

  12. Every year it's the same thing by stevez67 · · Score: 1

    People are touted as being "the most influential" who are nothing more than drama fodder for the 24x7 news organizations. Snowden will soon be a memory, heck he's almost a memory now, and bitcoin and its ilk will fare no better over time. It used to be that people expected 15 minutes of fame, now with the pace of information flow they should expect 15 ms of fame at best.

  13. Don't forget "Persona Management Software" by rsborg · · Score: 1

    So sad that a criminal is listed as an influential person. Especially one so cowardly and spineless as to flee instead of actually staying and working towards what he believed in. I hope he lives to a ripe old age and has to spend his life constantly hiding in the shadows in fear. In countries with worse personal liberties and freedoms than the one he fled from.

    I'm sorry you feel this way. Very few people here feel that way, in fact, the only people here that feel that way you do usually work for the NSA.

    The NSA and their numerous sockpuppets enabled through Palantir technology [1] - that could be millions of "people" who "support" the NSA. They exist everywhere, even heavily moderated forums like /. and dailykos.

    Let's see if the sockpuppets mod this comment down - it's happened before when I brought it up.

    [1] http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-UPDATED-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All

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  14. Re:Confused by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2

    Because Slashdot has become a temple of the first Church of Snowden

  15. Re:So sad .... by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

    So sad that a criminal is listed as an influential person. Especially one so cowardly and spineless as to flee instead of actually staying and working towards what he believed in. I hope he lives to a ripe old age and has to spend his life constantly hiding in the shadows in fear. In countries with worse personal liberties and freedoms than the one he fled from.

    I'm sorry you feel this way. Very few people here feel that way, in fact, the only people here that feel that way you do usually work for the NSA.

    Right even one who has a different opinion than yourself is obviously in the employ of the Satan.

    It seems all one has to do here to get their post moderated as "insightful" is ejaculate some pro-Snowden commentary even as dumb, trollish, dismissive and broad brushed as the one above.

  16. Narrow scope. by h4x0t · · Score: 1

    The guy's only rival is the pope for most influential person of the year, period.

  17. Re:The was dumb the first time by geminidomino · · Score: 1, Troll

    As stated by a 14-year-old whose concept of "technology" obviously ends at the edge of his computer desk.

  18. Vocal minorities always think they're in the major by stevez67 · · Score: 1

    In fact it's likely the trolls and their bait that agree with you.

  19. Re:So sad .... by Milosch1 · · Score: 1

    Snowden is a poor excuse for a sysadmin, and he is a criminal. By saying that I don't condone the actions of the NSA. However, only the truly naive did not expect what was going on was actually going on.

  20. Re:So sad .... by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry you feel this way. Very few people here feel that way, in fact, the only people here that feel that way you do usually work for the NSA.

    That is intellectually dishonest demagoguery.

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  21. Re:The was dumb the first time by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    His actions have:

    * Influenced an ever-increasing number of governments', organizations', and companies' technology implementation decisions (hardware purchasing, location, routing).
    * Re-ignited interest in the long neglected field of user-end encryption and security
    * Revealed the widespread "false sense of security" in widespread encryption, in the form of an intentionally-flawed encryption standard, which affects everything from E-Commerce to Electronic Medical Records

    "Influencing" technology by creating new technology is possibly the *least* wide-spreading way of doing it. Even disruptive tech's influence is more based on how well it's marketed.

  22. That may be but. by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

    It is not for his technical prowess.

  23. Re:So sad .... by Nemyst · · Score: 1

    Do they really have worse personal liberties than the US, though? If he came back, he'd be jailed, most likely without a fair trial, and maybe even "disappear" mysteriously, all because he told the truth. Calling him a criminal is like calling the Founding Fathers criminals because they rebelled against Great Britain.

  24. Re:So sad .... by !-!appy_!!arnian · · Score: 1

    I think he signed an agreement not to divulge classified information. Heroic as his actions may look, there is a lot of real security provided to us by the NSA. Does the date 9/11/2001 ring a bell? There are actually people out there who hate Americans, and they don't care if you lean left, right, or sideways. We are still at war. Now Putin has Snowden. Good luck ever getting out of Russia Ed.

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  25. Re:Snowden & Satoshi Nakamoto are Tied by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    Are you sure that bitcoin is liberating? The block chain thing sounds awfully non-anonymous.

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  26. Re:So sad .... by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

    Same comment applies.

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