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Chinese Icebreaker Is Stuck In Ice After Antarctic Research Vessel Rescue
New submitter Cochonou writes "In an unforeseen turn of events, the Sydney Morning Herald reports that the Chinese icebreaker Xue Long is now stuck in heavy Antarctic pack ice, just a day after its helicopter was used for the rescue of the passengers onboard the ice-trapped MV Akademik Shokalskiy. The Australian icebreaker Aurora Australis, which is now carrying the passengers of the Shokalskiy, has been placed on standby to assist. The Chinese vessel is waiting for favorable tidal conditions on Saturday to make another attempt at freeing itself."
We heard you needed an ice rescue, so we're sending you an ice rescue for your ice rescue.
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Yo Dawg, I herd you like to break ice, so I put an ice breaker in your ice breaker so you can break ice while you break ice.
You can't handle the truth.
could an icebreaker break, if it could actually break some freakin' ice!
He tried to kill me with a forklift!
...global warming is supposed to be melting all this ice.
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In Soviet Russia, missing ice find you!
The Irony of global cooling;)
If you send a ship to rescue another ship from ice, and that ship gets stuck in ice... I don't think that's exactly an "unforeseen" event. They knew the ice was there. And building up fast. It's a humorous turn of events, sure, but hardly unforeseen.
Thats all I have to say, China. Just lol.
"A mind reader? That sounds like sci fi." "Honey, we live on a space ship"
What a fiasco.
I just think it is cool there is such cooperation between Russia, China, and Australia on this "saving" of essentially Antarctic party animals, on a Russian drinking and discovery cruise.
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That's the problem with Chinese ice breakers. You get stuck again in an hour.
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Al Gore and his zealots said in 2008 all the ice would gone in 5 years.
No good deed goes unpunished.
How much ice would an icebreaker break if an icebreaker could break ice?
So, how many icebreakers would it take to form a continuous bridge back to Australia?
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How is this news? Sorry, but this sort of thing probably happens on a rather regular basis so this isn't exactly newsworthy.
Oh. Wait. It involves China and makes them look bad (for anyone eager to view something like this as a failure by China rather than just another day at the office for an icebreaker in the Antarctic) so it's obviously newsworthy, right?
Yawn.
Mainly climate activists and a few professors to observe the effects of global warming first hand. The "real scientists" started their annual research projects in October at the begining of Antarctic spring. (delayed a few weeks by the US government shutdown)
Both poles have been cooler than average the last year with a lot more ice. The long term trend at least in the north still appears to be warming.
Throw the Jonah overboard and the problems will be solved...
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We apologize for the icebreaker rescue. Those responsible for the rescue will need a rescue. An icebreaker ønce bit my sister.
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It's icebreakers all the way down
And I still can't get a goddamn ice cube for my gin & tonic. WORST ECOTOUR EVER!
The reduction in the polar ice packs is critical. Should have listened to Al Gore.
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I do not think that word means what you think it means
Instantly thought of this. Ok, so the second crane didn't actually go in the water, but still funny nonetheless!
If you'd like to read more about the Antarctic ice and how hard it is to survive down there, I highly recommend the book Endurance. It's about the voyage of Ernest Shackleton and crew in 1914. Their purpose-built ship got stuck in the ice for months then ultimately crushed. They survived on the ice floes for many more months before finally escaping. It goes into lots of detail and is a fascinating read.
Ok, so the 72 passengers believe people are evil, are ruining earth, are defeating Gia, are causing global warming. That the 72 passengers, "scientists", only consider their belief, not prudent weather predictions is a given. Problem is the Captain must have believed in global warming also, must have ignored maritime weather wisdom & charts. Willfully ignoring normal Antartic December conditions, endangering passengers and ship, is not in captains job description.
Yes, but what about the problem of Global Tilt -- Caused by the mass of all the icebreakers stuck in the Antarctica
In Soviet Antartica ice breaks you!
Why do they keep using that term? I do not think it means what they think it means.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Thats the probrem with liberals they don't believe in the Markets!
It's Xue Long time!
I suggest you watch THIS instructional video.
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Never been known to fail..."
This is where the IPCC chairman and his bobbleheads need to be. Is there any way to fly them and leave them on the abandoned ship? I realize that Climate Change is a reality however these guys are not the experts we're looking for.
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We have the start of the ice breaker equivalent of the La Brea tar pits. Millennia from now scientists will carefully peel away the layers of ancient ice breaking vessels and revel at the pre-anti gravity era technology. (or we just wait until the ice melts in a few months, but where's the fun in that?)
Apparently these "climate scientists", their families and friends on this tour of Mawson’s camp site can't tell the difference between weather and climate. It appears they so believed in declining Antarctic ice they forgot to look at the weather and recent trends. There's an unprecedented amount of ice down there and these fools ignored that and went ahead and tried to complete their tour of a historic site. Exactly who are the idiots here?
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I'll go with:
I don't think "unforeseen" means what you think it means...
Of course this is Australia, up is down, black is white, and sending a ship to rescue a ship stuck in ice and by doing so also gets stuck in ice is unforeseen.
That's what happens when you send a snow dragon to do an ice dragon job.
Ideally you would think they would have a Fire Dragon that might be a lot more effective.
BTW if China ever builds a nuclear icebreaker they totally have to name it Fire Dragon, which Google translate tells me is: Hulóng.
What's needed: Now get a name tag and put your name on it. The person at the front will give you a number. If you are a boy you have to find a girl with a number larger than yours (the first one you find), tell her your name, and dance with her one dance. Then you have to find a girl with a number lower than you, introduce yourself, and dance one dance. It might seem like Jr. High, but it sure does break the ice. If that doesn't work, mount a large chain saw to the back of a skidoo, and put a 48 inch (deep) cut into the ice. 4-5 sleds doing this will weaken the ice enough for it to break.
What'r the chances of getting stuck in ice in Antarctica during the summer months of 2013-2014, when global warming is at it's peak (tongue in cheek) - not once, but TWICE? Imagine having to be carried by a helicopter over all that ice, just to set down on another ship that's stuck in the same ice.
On a side note, I live in Alabama (USA) and where it's generally been, for the past 8 years or more, 70+ degrees in January, it's 35 today. I wonder if the last 8 years or so have been hotter due to the sun's cycle. Because supposedly it just ended (last summer was the coolest it's been in 8 or more years) and now it's cold as shit this year.
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That's still a more desirable state than being from Errmurrrika.
The whole climate Warming or Change issue reminds me of the old story of four blind men meeting an elephant for the first time. One feels its truck and says "An elephant is a snake", another man feels the leg and say "An elephant is like a tree trunk". The third feels an ear and exclaims "An elephant is like a leaf and the fourth, having not moved in time says, just before getting crushed by its feet, an Elephant is like a huge rock". What they perceive is just a part of the whole and when put completely together becomes something quite different.
I will accept that mankind has effected the overall climate of the planet. I say this not as a Scientist, but as a reasonably intelligent human that understands when you shit in your own house, something stinks. How bad it sticks is not the issue. The issue is why keep shitting in the house if there are better alternatives like using an outhouse or bathroom. The Earth is very big, very complex and we have only scratched the surface of what we understand about how it works. We are the four blind men and I think it may take time to get the complete picture of what is in the room.
In the mean time, is it so bad to think we could just stop shitting in our own home, do something about the stink and maybe make living here a more pleasant experience? I would think Capitalistics could figure out all sorts of ways to make money cleaning up our shit instead of just making more air spray to cover up the smell.
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Isn't it ironic, don't you think?
I'm shocked at the comments from people who don't realize it is summer down there; who really should have enough shame to keep their ignorant mouths shut.
Climate Science deals in long term trends, they are not meteorologists. Just as it doesn't cause bad weather it contributes to the severity of it (since weather is the result of temperature differences.) Also embarrassing are the people who don't realize winter is caused by the tilt of the earth, not how close we are to the sun (right now, in the winter we are closer to the sun.)
It doesn't cause boats of mostly tourists (plus some desperate scientist guides) to not get stuck when being reckless in one of the most dangerous areas of the ocean. The rescue ship has no choice but to take risks they would not otherwise to reach them, no surprise they risked getting trapped.
This news story was brought to you by BP, Exon, etc. It's not really a big news item; there is so much more important news.
To freeze ocean waters takes a lot of COLD, which has to come from somewhere... Ice cubes melt in your drink but it gets colder... point is, to assume that the surrounding area is nice because it's warmer is rather simplistic-- the relative warmth of the top of the ocean is going to dissipate quickly as cold flows into it or the ocean current shifts direction. One should expect more extreme conditions in that area with an increased temperature difference... If it wasn't being impacted by global warming it would be more predictable and less active.... because the energy input to the system down there IS the temperature difference it's obvious that more input energy is going to be expressed (before you say wind and water currents also input energy into the system down there, think about where those two come from.)
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Proof of concept.
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Grandparent clearly stated it was summer in Antarctica....
Put some lasers on those things and cut a path out.
They'd have been able to do a u-turn and just drive off, but some say the ship was Xue Long
Come on! It's "made in China"
Good thing it's summer down there, otherwise all those ice breakers would be stuck in the ice.
So much for AGW, which, BTW, almost caused a hurricane during the hurricane season last year.
Circle the wagons and fire inward. Entropy increases without bounds.
I'm shocked at the comments from people who don't realize it is summer down there; who really should have enough shame to keep their ignorant mouths shut.
Who are you talking about? I didn't read every comment on this topic, but I didn't see anyone that seemed confused about this fact. If you're talking about me (you are responding to me) then you may need to re-read my first sentence. Either way, you seem like you're having a bad day. lighten up bro, it's Friday.
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Just another dose of the traditional American mid-winter P.R. flashes that look like "funny news" so we think the planet is not really getting hotter. I've seen them coming right on time for the west coast snow season.
What other explanation could apply for such long time standing headline? ...global-warming deniers = oil cartels.
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We now have two ships locked in ice, many helicopter trips... who pays for all that mess?
The epic fail for the science deniers trying to use this as an excuse to push their luddite barrow is that all that pack ice is trapped by a huge iceberg that has broken off the ice sheet. If anything it's an argument for warming if you want to stretch as far as the science deniers are with their ice in summer "proof" of no warming. I'd recommend not - see weather as weather and climate as the long term, just like the experts do.
So I suggest listening to them instead of economists and sudoko puzzle writers.
That's how the media is skewing it. A dumbed down "lie to children".
A lot of it was really about redoing stuff from a century ago in the same place to see what is different. Ice has moved, the magnetic pole has moved a lot to almost on top of the site, there's a huge glacier tongue that was next door that is gone which is likely to have changed a lot in the sea there, and probably the weather as well.
Seeing what has happened over a century is more about increasing understanding what is going on than specifically about global warming. Considering that Antarctica has a huge effect on weather as far north as California it's a place that's worth understanding (and the magnetic stuff has a global effect).
One article that got into the mainsteam press (because it was unusual) and was rejected by the scientific community is not "settled" in comparison to the report on climate change that was dumped onto President Johnson's desk at around the same time.
Try a different article.
The pack ice is trapped by a huge iceberg so the science deniers shouldn't be using this as "proof" that the sort of warming that speeds up iceberg calving is not happening.
No, not you. you were just the one near the top. I didn't have a score filter on and was moderating until I posted this reply. You don't have to live around people who are willfully ignorant (because their faith is threatened) and I do - I'm still hearing their BS about global dimming they haven't read a thing about. The amount of unjustified confidence in this society is disgusting.
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Translation: The mark did not fall for the petty trick so here is an appeal to authority (about not apealing to authoity no less!) just in case the next mark decides they will not fall for the trick either.
You disgust me. A petty luddite attempting to use the authority of Einstein to justify you appeal against authority shows how little you think of the readers on this site.
I'm going to bookmark your post above that one and use it as an example of an appeal to authority.
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if they make a movie of this it could be brutally funny with dry humor. if anybody dies it could be dry and dark but still funny as a movie. even if it's not funny that those people died in real life. there's nothing wrong with me, i'm comPLETEly normal.
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[whispering] Global Warming. That's what the "scientists" on the Shokalskiy were doing down there. But, shhhh, we don't want the average Joe to know about the real reason for their mission. It's really hard for the typical unscientific mind to understand how there could be *that* much more ice than ... than ... there should be ... in the *summer* ... if the sky is really falling.
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I think it is a big and arrogant assumption to say that man is affecting the environment enough to affect it fatally. Yes I do think there is more that we could do to build closed systems that dont leak excrement or energy, and that these may have some effect on the ecosystems in our immediate vicinity. It always amuses me that the environmentalists seem assume that man and his effects are somehow unnatural and outside natural systems instead of being just another part of them. I recall a book title about soldiers in the malaysian jungle which was simply "The Jungle is Neutral". Man just another player in global affairs and to assume we are superior enough to outweigh natural tides and forces is just a little bit arrogant and in the scheme of things, to my mind , quite amusing.