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Military Electronics That Shatter Into Dust On Command

First time accepted submitter MAE Keller writes "Two U.S. companies are joining a military research program to develop sensitive electronic components able to self-destruct on command to keep them out of the hands of potential adversaries who would attempt to counterfeit them for their own use. From the article: 'Last Friday DARPA awarded a $2.1 million contract to PARC, and a $3.5 million contract to IBM for the VAPR program, which seeks to develop transient electronics that can physically disappear in a controlled, triggerable manner.'"

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  1. BUCK FETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also, fuck beta!

    1. Re:BUCK FETA by richlv · · Score: 2

      oh, maybe it could shatter into DUST

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    2. Re:BUCK FETA by arth1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Beta is to Classic as Jar-Jar Binks is to Boba Fett.

    3. Re:BUCK FETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      C'mon now, that just isnt fair. Jar Jar was at lest better looking and more informed then Beta. Also Jar Jar added some value, unlike Beta.

    4. Re:BUCK FETA by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Boba Fett* was horrible at his job.

      *BOBA FEETS!

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    5. Re:BUCK FETA by ixidor · · Score: 2

      target practice.. has to be worth somehting greater than 0 ?

    6. Re:BUCK FETA by CCarrot · · Score: 2

      Seriously no button to Post as Anonymous Coward. What the fucking fuckity fuck?

      Try no login at all...yes, I'm using IE8 (stuck with it at work, don't ask), but still.

      No login, no options to switch to 'classic view' because none of the fancy new menus show up...at least if I log in via the classic site, posts on the beta site are identified (as you said though, with no 'post anon' option), but as soon as the classic site goes away for good, I'm hooped. And yeah, the flow and readability is a joke on the new site, and an especially bad one at that with IE8...

      Guess my coffee breaks will get boring... :( Or, I suppose, I could actually go out and talk to ppl...hmmm...naah.

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  2. beta sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    just saying the obvious

  3. Shatter to Dust on Command by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So...slashdot's user base is set to shatter when beta goes live?

  4. Car analogy time by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 4, Funny

    Car analogy time:
    I have gotten rid of vehicles that sucked less than the Slashdot beta. Seriously even that '85 Bronco II where everything was rusty, none of the body panels matched, and that had bad compression on the #5 cylinder sucked less than beta.slashdot.org.

    Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust on command

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  5. Already One Step Ahead... by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I write code like this all the time. Oh wait, you mean on purpose?

    Ob note: uck-fay eta-bay

  6. I thought this was already perfected by TigerPlish · · Score: 3

    Electronics that smoke themselves? Have had plenty of them.

    They all spewed magic smoke shortly after warranty expiration. Coincidence? I THINK NOT! BWAHAHA!

    Just like Slashdot will spew magic smoke when its bitch daddy Dice pulls the plug on classic. All that will remain is a box full of bad smells and no life.

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  7. Slashdot Does A Digg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No doubt about it Slashdot beta sucks and everyone hates it. But, the Slashcrew, like Digg of old, refuse to listen.

    Show them the error of their ways, boycott Slashdot 2/7/14.

  8. Re:What can go wrong with this by thinkingrodent · · Score: 2

    Can I fire some at beta?

  9. Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust on command

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    1. Re:Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Maybe we're just not using the right one.

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    2. Re:Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust by kencurry · · Score: 2

      Maybe we're just not using the right one.

      no, you're just holding it the wrong way.

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    3. Re:Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust on command

      Well, it was clearly designed by some kind of weapons grade stupid. This could be the prototype for it... it just failed to deploy as intended and so we're stuck with this digital Exxon Valdeez puking up mangled content and terrible design all along the shores of our global networks as it's drunken pilots sing "We're gonna beeeeee rich! da da do do de daaaa...."

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    4. Re:Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust on command

      Actually, the "beta" is nothing but the result of DARPA testing this technology on Slashdot server circuitry.

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  10. Beta Sucks by JWW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep classic /.

    oh and does anyone else hear the crickets??

  11. Closing my DICE account by anthony_greer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have used dice to find many jobs, including the one I have right now, but I will not use Dice again if this beta isn't reversed.

    Dice makes way more off of a placement than some silly adverts, if the technical professionals who read this site want to make a stand, kill your Dice profile - want to find a job? target your goal city and call head hunters, they will get you good jobs if you have a good skill.

    1. Re:Closing my DICE account by byronivs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This. Close your account. There are many other options out there.

  12. blind leading the blind? by dciman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure why the editors think that simply continuing to blindly post stories is going to change things here.

    We aren't talking about the news!

    Respect your users!

    1. Re:blind leading the blind? by JustinOpinion · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What really scares me is the thought that the editors haven't really even noticed.

      One of the things that has always surprised me (even bothered me a bit) about Slashdot is that the people running the site do not appear to actually use the site. The editors don't routinely participate in discussions. We occasionally see a comment from an editor, but they are certainly not among the top commenters. (Even CmdrTaco's comment history was surprisingly thin...) These are people who are paid to be involved with the site. I know they have other duties, and perhaps being an employee makes participating in the community less fun. But on the other hand, if your job is to manage an online community, I would expect to see more involvement.

      I sometimes wonder whether the editors actually read through Slashdot comments at all, or whether they just queue up some stories and then work on something else.

      I'm guessing that by now they've noticed the firestorm of hate, since it's being injected into the comments, firehose/story-submissions, polls, via email, etc. But even so, I feel that ultimately the disconnect between what the Slashdot community wants, and what the powers-that-be are planning to provide, is that the people running Slashdot are not Slashdot users (much less contributors). So they do not even realize why we hate the beta so much. To an outsider, one commenting system and another might seem pretty much the same. It might seem like we're complaining over minutia. But to someone who is trying to participate in the fast-paced and highly technical discussions that erupt on Slashdot, the commenting system is paramount. Ruin it, and you've killed the site.

  13. Make Beta mandatory by mccotter · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've been looking for an excuse to reclaim some time in my day.

  14. Fuck Slashdot Beta Fuck Dice by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fuck Slashdot Beta Fuck Dice

  15. Things that shatter into dust on impact. by girlintraining · · Score: 2

    1. Military electronics
    2. Dice Holdings, Inc.'s bottom line.

    That's pretty much the sentiment. But here's an idea: Rob Malda (may God bless him in our time of ultimate need) gave us a tool to fight off our oppressors: The source code that powers classic slashdot. The kryptonite of the Overlords. Let us come together now with a kickstarter project, crowdsource our way into the amazon cloud, and free ourselves of these idiot fucktard web 2.0 morons. We have the technology! We can build it faster. Better. Stronger.

    And free of Dic--Derp Holdings. Discuss.

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  16. OPFOR by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How long until adversaries get the codes to remote destroy US military equipment while it is in use?

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    1. Re:OPFOR by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My thoughts exactly ... knowing how to make military hardware keel over on command is going to be a very valuable thing.

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  17. Kill Beta! by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.

    On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

    Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

    If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this in a new tab. After seeing that, click here to return to classic Slashdot.

    We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
    We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott


    Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
    Commentors - only discuss the Beta - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

    Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

    Discussion of Beta
    Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live
    Alternative Slashdot

  18. Here's my POV on Beta by excelsior_gr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I got a message urging me to try it, so I clicked on it, looked at the Beta and thought: oh, this looks like Slashdot on my phone. And clicked back to the original interface after only a short while. Learn a lesson from Win8: Interfaces that look good on a phone, are crap for a desktop.

    I mean, you have people on this site that actually believe that a CLI is a superior interface. And you try to impress them with eye-candy that takes functionality away? Goodluckwiththat.

    What were you guys thinking?

  19. Re:E-Fuses? by DaHat · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's not always enough...so long as you have the surviving chips, with a bit of polishing off of the layers & an electron microscope, it's very doable to create a schematic of the part... from that you can learn how it does certain things internally, as well as identify attack points (within the IC) that with a focused ion beam can be attacked for when next you acquire a less damaged part.

  20. Can't wait for it to reach the private sector by Shag · · Score: 2

    Miss enough payments, and all the circuitry inside your computer, your car, the home theater you got from Rent-A-Center, or whatever... *poof*

    Of course, it'll put a lot of repo-men out of work...

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    1. Re:Can't wait for it to reach the private sector by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking games consoles. A self-destruct-on-tamper device to prevent reverse-engineering and modding, perhaps triggered by a firmware image that matches the integrity hash but not the signing key. It would mean anyone trying to reverse-engineer the device would probably burn through a great many of them before they learned enough to avoid triggering the auto-destruct, which would price many out of the attempt.

  21. Re:Sorry, I just don't get what you are ranting ab by Goaway · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No way to see replies to your comments, no way to link to your comments to check by hand. Discussion is impossible.

  22. Re:Sorry, I just don't get what you are ranting ab by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I prefer the beta, it's clean and works just fine. Seriously, what is it that's making it so horrible for you?

    Threaded conversations where you can choose ahead of time to see all replies. But you likely won't see this reply, if you use beta.

  23. BETA - I command you! by stenvar · · Score: 4, Funny

    BETA, I command you: turn into dust NOW.

  24. Here today, gone tomorrow. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, we're here generating traffic. Today.

    Piss off your users, and they first get loud and tell you what you're doing wrong. Then, they get quiet. REAL quiet. As in, no longer visiting your site. And, for Slashdot, if people aren't visiting, then they aren't posting, they aren't submitting stories, and they aren't looking at your ads.

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  25. Re:Sorry, I just don't get what you are ranting ab by TWiTfan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's one of the real nasty bits of it. Any kind of long-lasting discussion is out of the question. Some of the best threads I've ever seen on /. came from deep, ongoing discussions between knowledgeable people. The beta makes it difficult to have any real back-and-forth.

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  26. This would be useful for more than just military by jonwil · · Score: 2

    This could be used by dissidents in various countries worried about the government seizing their computers and using the information contained therein against them. Or heck, criminals would be interested too, if the feds come a knocking, they just hit some buttons and turn all their criminal record data to unreadable dust.

  27. Re:Kind of like slashdot by Soulskill · · Score: 2

    Alice Hill does not work for Dice, and hasn't for a while. She has nothing to do with the Beta. Put down the pitchfork.

  28. Re:E-Fuses? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    Destroying parts on demand isn't hard. Just takes a small explosive charge. I'm guessing they want pre-stressed instead because it would be lighter, more compact, and safe to trigger in proximity to a soldier's body. I'm thinking less of top-secret radar equipment and more of field radios and other communication gear. I know that DARPA is very keen on the 'connected soldier.'