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Interview: Ask Richard Stallman What You Will

Richard Stallman (RMS) founded the GNU Project in 1984, the Free Software Foundation in 1985, and remains one of the most important and outspoken advocates for software freedom. He now spends much of his time fighting excessive extension of copyright laws, digital restrictions management, and software patents. RMS has agreed to answer your questions about GNU/Linux, how GNU relates to Linux the kernel, free software, why he disagrees with the idea of open source, and other issues of public concern. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one question per post.

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  1. well,..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm playing spot the shill on this story. Bonus points for who paid them.

  2. Oh c'mon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why are these interviews always for some dude trying to sell his latest crappy software? Yet another way Dice has ruined slashdot.

    1. Re:Oh c'mon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I gather you are some sort of fucking genius, possibly brighter than Einstein was!

  3. What 100% free distribution do you recommend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been trying to switch for a long time, but gNewSense has never worked for me. Are there any distributions you can recommend?

    1. Re:What 100% free distribution do you recommend? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Fedora is 100% free and they have good quality assurance.

    2. Re:What 100% free distribution do you recommend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    3. Re:What 100% free distribution do you recommend? by cupantae · · Score: 2

      My only question about gNewSense is why did they choose a name which reads "gee, nuisance"?

      Even if that's not the intended pronunciation, it's a remarkable oversight that a lot of people will read it as such.

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    4. Re:What 100% free distribution do you recommend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are people so sensitive to such occurrences that they'll immediately dismiss the project because of a coincidentally similar name? Maybe such people should grow up.

  4. Erotic Novel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you write an erotic novel featuring yourself?

    1. Re:Erotic Novel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      If he ever did, you know it wouldn't have a shower scene.

    2. Re:Erotic Novel by PenguSven · · Score: 1

      No, but probably a barn yard scene, a nursery scene, and a graveyard scene.

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  5. Do we still have a chance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Inbetween Google, Apple, Samsung, NSA, GCHQ, ... can we still make it?

  6. I'm intrigued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    What do your feet nibbles taste like?
    And what do you think of people who question your personal disgusting hygiene?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ

    1. Re:I'm intrigued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you have to bring up that issue again? I bet that he has been punished about that enough already.

    2. Re:I'm intrigued by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 2

      "It's not what goes inside of a man that makes him dirty, but what comes out of him."

      - Jesus Christ

    3. Re:I'm intrigued by WWJohnBrowningDo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Give the man a break. He's just trying to promote open sores food.

    4. Re:I'm intrigued by andrewa · · Score: 0

      Nice try, RMS....

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    5. Re:I'm intrigued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus doesn't exist. End of. Longest running hoax in history.

    6. Re:I'm intrigued by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 0

      I'm not a fan of the church... or any organized religion for that matter... but I do see wisdom in many words attributed to Jesus Christ.

    7. Re:I'm intrigued by x_t0ken_407 · · Score: 1

      There's actually ample evidence that a man named Jesus Christ existed. That he had supernatural powers and produced many miracles, etc. is what atheists are usually disagree about. Just saying...

    8. Re:I'm intrigued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because he's miserable and thinks he's cool by bullying a successful guy on the net.

    9. Re:I'm intrigued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did ample evidence become synonymous with no evidence?

    10. Re: I'm intrigued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woah, that's some chewy toenail...eek!

    11. Re:I'm intrigued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      (Posting this after logging out so my moderations on actual questions directed to RMS don't disappear.)

      This is actually a common mistake. There isn't "ample evidence that a man named Jesus Christ existed". Quite apart from the fact that he wasn't named Jesus Christ, of course.

      There is a large amount of evidence about the history and thought of people who claimed to follow Jesus, who recorded what they purport to be this person's sayings and deeds. There is a consistent theory (which could be thought of as a family of theories), which fits all the known facts, which explains this considerable amount of evidence. The theory is based on a historical Jesus (or Yeshua) figure having existed, having said and done things, having had followers, having been executed by the Romans, and so on.

      There is, however, no consistent theory which explains the considerable amount of evidence and does not posit a historical figure. The conclusion, held by all mainstream secular historians of the Ancient Near East, is that Jesus almost certainly existed. This is the simplest (and at the time of writing, the only) theory which fits all the evidence.

      I'm not going to go through all the evidence, since there are plenty of books on the topic (such as Bart Ehrman's latest), but a simple illustration can show why historians have come to this conclusion.

      Let's suppose that the canonical gospels as the only evidence we have. This isn't even close to true, but let's just run with this for the sake of illustration. The gospels exist, and now we have to explain how they came to be.

      There are, broadly speaking, three possible positions.

      The first we will call the "fundamentalist" position. This is the position that the gospels are 100% journalistically accurate. This is a big claim, because it is a claim about all of the evidence. If a single saying or deed is better explained by being mythical or fictional, then this position is wrong. As such, the burden of proof for this position is high.

      The second we will call the "mythicist" position. This is the position that the gospels are 100% fictional or mythical. This is also a big claim, because it is a claim about all of the evidence. If a single saying or deed is better explained by having come from a historical figure, then this position is wrong. The burden of proof is, once again, high.

      The third we will call the "mainstream" position. This is the position that the gospels contain a variety of material of differing veracity. Some of the stories are more accurate than others. This is a weak claim, because it allows for some of the evidence to stay in the "unknown" category and still remain consistent with the position. It also allows for repair of the theory as new evidence comes in. The burden of proof for this is comparatively low.

      It doesn't help that theories which purport to explain the evidence and posit no historical Jesus tend to rely on other fringe historical positions, such as ancient conspiracy theories, or the prevalence of ancient "dying and rising gods" (which is isn't really a thing). Those who advocate these theories also tend to engage in other fringe academia which can only be called "crankery" (e.g. Richard Carrier and his Bayesian statistics nonsense). Now I don't want to suggest that a crank can't come up with a good theory, but it helps your case if you can convince an expert who isn't a crank.

    12. Re:I'm intrigued by torsmo · · Score: 1

      Blegghhh!! (as if there could be a more emphatic and appropriate response...)

  7. Who put the bomp by korbulon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?

    1. Re:Who put the bomp by click2005 · · Score: 0

      Showaddywaddy

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    2. Re:Who put the bomp by korbulon · · Score: 1

      Why has this been downvoted Offtopic?! Maybe he knows.

    3. Re:Who put the bomp by QRDeNameland · · Score: 1

      I don't know about that...but I'd like to know who upgraded the memory in the RAMALAMADINGDONG server.

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    4. Re:Who put the bomp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whomever it was, I'd like to establish a communications protocol with him. He made my server fall in love with me.

  8. NSA/GCHQ by click2005 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What are your views on the recent NSA activities and how do you think it will change free software & the internet?

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    1. Re:NSA/GCHQ by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      What are your views on the recent NSA activities and how do you think it will change free software & the internet?

      Along those lines, I've casually followed Richard's advocacy of open hardware for a while. I didn't truly understand the need until I started to read some of the Snowden briefings on things like SWAP, which is almost as terrifying as the undetectable router exploits they've been deploying for five years or more.

      This leads to the inescapable conclusion that one cannot have a secure computing system unless the entire stack is open, possibly right down to the CPU. I long ago learned not to dismiss Richard's ideas, but this one took an example to understand.

      But still, now that we're just getting people to understand that in order to have secure software, it has to be free and open, very few appreciate that the whole thing is still vulnerable to secret hardware, and yet, secret hardware predominates the market and perhaps even owns the entire middle and high-end.

      Question, then: how do we get from here to a free hardware ecosystem that can compete in the market with secret hardware?

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  9. I've always wanted to know by Lord+Kano · · Score: 0, Troll

    What did you eat off of your foot in this video?

    LK

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    1. Re:I've always wanted to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flamebait my ass, that's what i wanted to know too.

    2. Re:I've always wanted to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    3. Re:I've always wanted to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1

    4. Re:I've always wanted to know by sexconker · · Score: 0

      Seriously. This is the ONLY fucking thing I want to know.
      Only AFTER he answers this will I give a shit about other things he says.

    5. Re:I've always wanted to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, stop it, RMS. Everytime someone here posts a question like this you don't like it. Suck it up, cupcake, you ate something off your foot in the middle of a talk.

    6. Re: I've always wanted to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1
      I'm voting scab but I was going to vote toenail. Maybe it's like aged cheese?

    7. Re:I've always wanted to know by pedantic+bore · · Score: 1

      I want to know, but I also don't want to know.

      Whatever it was, I can tell that it was chewy. And that I've lost my appetite.

      --
      Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
  10. Who let the dogs out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who, who, who!?

  11. Opinion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is your opinion on cryptocurrencies?

    1. Re:Opinion? by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      Please choose this one; I suspect he has something interesting to say about it.

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      Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
    2. Re:Opinion? by thebryce · · Score: 1

      My vote for this one, too.

    3. Re:Opinion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's certainly a lot better than all the reduncant toe jam questions above, I was wondering when someone would get around to not being a sick fuck. If I were moderating, all commants above the cryptocurrencies would be modded either troll or flamebait. Some of them were just SICK and got modded up anyway.

      Damn... 4channers have overrun slashdot. It's sad what's become of my beloved formerly nerd site.

    4. Re:Opinion? by madwheel · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Curious on this as well!

  12. Shave, damn you! by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Okay, just kidding... but my question is this: How do you see the FSF remaining relevant 10 years hence - in other words, what is the FSF doing to keep from being obviated by the evolution of technology at large?

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    1. Re:Shave, damn you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I think he definitely needs to shave. The joke goes that emacs is missing everything except a good text editor. We might just find that the good text editor is hidden in his beard.

    2. Re:Shave, damn you! by jcoleman · · Score: 2

      emacs is missing nothing except a good text editor.

      FTFY

    3. Re:Shave, damn you! by Zalbik · · Score: 1

      emacs has everything except a good text editor.

      FTFY

      FTFY.

      When you can't stop preventing yourself from not using double-negatives, it's confusing.

    4. Re:Shave, damn you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Education for freedom and cooperation with our communities are the only things to do. Our activism deals with the ethics and politics of software users, software developers and software publishers. We believe that proprietary software owners cause a social problem through proprietary software and we won't force anyone to stop participating in this problem. We want to teach the idea that society's freedom is important and we hope to convince you the same. The other thing we can do is write free software to replace proprietary software. If we cooperate and share the software, we can have our own world of free software where nobody has to live subject to proprietary software. This is the list of high priority projects that will help us achieve that goal:
      https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/

  13. Free Software for Smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How close are we to obtaining a truly free phone given that MWC 2014 has shown us a once proprietary Nokia running Android and do you have any further ideas as to how we can finally free the hardware firmware and what would be timescale until we see a truly free smartphone?

    1. Re:Free Software for Smartphones by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      The FSF position:

      F-Droid - instead of google play
      Replicant - 'tinfoil hat' stuff to remove binary blobs
      PowerVR drivers - drivers for Mali and Adreno have independently emerged, even if OMAP is no longer a major player.

      AFAIK, none of the competing platforms (Ubuntu, Tizen, Sailfish, Firefox OS) have integrated lima or freedreno, falling back to the Android drivers via libhybris

    2. Re:Free Software for Smartphones by paxcoder · · Score: 1

      If I may, a related question:
      Mobile computing will never be free as long as there is no free GSM/UTMS/LTT stack. Why doesn't the High Priority List feature a project to develop this?

  14. plan9 by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What are your thoughts on the gpl'ing of plan9 recently? What affect do you think this could have the gnu/linux ecosystem?

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    1. Re:plan9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean effect.

    2. Re:plan9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there any possibility that GPLing Plan9 might make it more popular?

    3. Re:plan9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I support this Question. Since GPL'ing Plan9 I investigated it. It's great and beautiful. I'd love to see more Development going on and FSF supporting it.

    4. Re: plan9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plan9? I thought that died years ago. It is more 'beautiful' than Linux or Windows, but so was BeOS. It certainly is dead in terms of mindshare.

  15. GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can the GPL version 4 become the 'Good Public License'? One which forbids use of the software for weapon systems and invading privacy? A committee by the FSF could for example determine what is 'evil' enough to prohibit its use.

    Do you think that's a good idea?

     

    Jasper Internet

    1. Re:GPLv4 by gQuigs · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Evil" uses should be forbidden by law, not by the license.

    3. Re:GPLv4 by Java+Pimp · · Score: 1

      Words like "forbid" and "prohibit" seem to go against the idea of "free software".

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      Kull: She told me she was 19!
    4. Re:GPLv4 by PenguSven · · Score: 0, Troll

      A committee to decide on what's "evil", by the organisation founded by a man who thinks necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, incest and pedophilia should be legal.

      Next: CEO of McDonalds named Director-General of the World Health Organisation

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    5. Re:GPLv4 by Microlith · · Score: 1

      Why do all the people incapable of anything other than off-topic, ad-hominem arguments come crawling out of the wood work whenever RMS comes up?

    6. Re:GPLv4 by PenguSven · · Score: 2

      How is that off topic?

      The parent asked about the FSF forming a committee to define "what is evil". The founder of the FSF has made numerous comments arguing against the criminal status of the topics I mentioned, some of which are generally considered "worst of the worst" crimes.

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    7. Re:GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you also looked at his actual arguments? You know, lots of things were once considered worst of the worst crimes until someone actually thought about it and discovered that it's bullshit (death sentence for being gay, anyone?), so the fact that something is considered worst of the worst by current public opinion is not exactly a reliable measure of something actually being bad.

    8. Re:GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GPL focuses on the rights of the developer. With version 2 and 3 (I am unfamiliar with v1) the developer basically states that he/she thinks that it is immoral to make sourcecode secret. A licence stating that the developer thinks that privacy invasive software is immoral is an interesting concept. I would very much like to hear Richard Stallman's view on this.

      Your view of "free software" seems to be more along the BSD lines, which is about the freedom of the person receiving the sourcecode (rather than the developer). The perspective is different, and it's interesting to debate about the benefits of each, but it's not the GPL way.

    9. Re:GPLv4 by Chemisor · · Score: 1

      A committee by the FSF could for example determine what is 'evil' enough to prohibit its use. Do you think that's a good idea?

      Please direct your question to the committee.

    10. Re:GPLv4 by Java+Pimp · · Score: 2

      Actually, the GPL focuses on neither the developer nor the user but only on the software itself. You are free to use the software so long as the software remains free.

      My point was that free software has never had any kind of restriction on the "use" of the software. The licenses grant permission for modification/distribution and the terms that apply. The license provides what didn't exist before, forbid and prohibit takes things away.

      Currently it's perfectly fine for me to use GCC to build weapon systems or use LAMP to put up a pro-software patents website if I so choose. It's also fine to incorporate GPL code into a new P2P software geared toward distribution of anti- propaganda so long as the sources are available. (Or any number of uses that may be controversial or objectionable in certain groups)

      When you start adding arbitrary prohibitions left to the discretion of the individual developers you lose all freedom in a nightmare of restrictions.
      e.g. I can use this library in my code as long as I don't eat meat. But now, my code can also only be used by vegetarians. But then to use this other library I have to also hate gays.

      I've seen software with restrictions on military applications or use in government organizations. But I don't think they could be considered free.

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      Kull: She told me she was 19!
    11. Re:GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you prepared to say that necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, incest and pedophilia are not bad? No? Then, shut the fuck up, moral relativist.

    12. Re:GPLv4 by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      One which forbids use of the software for weapon systems

      As an exercise, write a sentence that bans Lockheed Martin from using your software ("in defense of the country, even if the war takes place in Iraq") while allowing a hacker in Syria to use it in a security system protecting a school for orphans. Weapons aren't inherently good or evil; than can be used to invade or to protect from invaders. How do you draw a line between those in an unambiguous way?

      and invading privacy?

      What does that even mean? Installing a keystroke logger on my wife's laptop so I can keep tabs on her would sure as hell be a privacy invasion. The police doing the same under warrant to a suspected criminal probably isn't. Again, your challenge is to succinctly describe an algorithm that permits the second while denying the first.

      I'll save you the trouble: both are impossible, and no two groups are likely to agree on what is "good" and "evil". I love the FSF but I'll be damned if I want to make them the sole arbiters of what uses I can put GPLed software to.

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    13. Re:GPLv4 by gIobaljustin · · Score: 1

      Are you prepared to say that necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, incest and pedophilia are not bad?

      Absolutely.

      No?

      What's the point of asking a question if you're just going to answer it for them yourself? Why not just make the entire conversation take place in your own little imagination?

      Then, shut the fuck up, moral relativist.

      You use the term "moral relativist" like it's a bad thing. You must believe in magical moral fairies.

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    14. Re:GPLv4 by gIobaljustin · · Score: 1

      The police doing the same under warrant to a suspected criminal probably isn't.

      Incorrect. It is still an invasion of privacy; it's just a legal invasion of privacy.

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    15. Re:GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am prepared to say anything that is empirically supported. In order to figure out whether something is empirically supported, I have to look at the arguments, not at what public opinion currently favours. Note that I am not saying what my position in the end will be, just that I will decide only after I have investigated, not the other way around. (And in general, RMS's arguments tend to be very well thought out and often with non-obvious insights, which is why I would not discard them without having tried to actuall understand them.)

      You have to understand that not too long ago the general reaction to homosexuals was quite similar to yours above - it was a generally well-known fact that homosexuality was unnatural and that homosexuals seduce children to become homosexual and that that posed a risk to society and all that and people were disgusted at homosexuals and would never even consider thinking about whether homosexuality was actually bad. Meanwhile, we have managed to figure out that that was all bullshit, that there is nothing to be feared from homosexuals, and it's perfectly natural, too. We never could have figured that out if we only ever had insisted on the current public opinion being right, and we would still be driving the Alan Turings of the world into suicide - which would obviously be bad for both the affected people and for the society as a whole, if you consider what more Turing might have been able to do for humanity, had he not been killed by this irrational fear and/or hate of homosexuals.

      Also, there is nothing other than moral relativism, at least in the sense that you probably mean here. It's quite easy to get an objective basis for morals, but it's most likely never going to be an unchangable absolute. You can not avoid that problem by simply declaring some (more or less) random set of morals to be the absolute basis, as you would first need reliable morals to decide which absolute basis would be the right moral basis/to distinguish god from the devil. That may be unfortunate in some ways, but as far as we can tell, that is how it is.

    16. Re:GPLv4 by 3dr · · Score: 1

      The GPL is a license on the software source code controlling its distribution policies, not on the software's end-use. The GPL is not an EULA.

    17. Re:GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds good to me.

    18. Re:GPLv4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      different AC
      Yes, actually. I am not going to be the one to start throwing stones about someone else's sex life. Necrophilia doesn't hurt anyone, bestiality doesn't hurt anyone, possession of child porn doesn't hurt anyone, incest is hopefully consenting and generally is far less harmful than you seem to believe, and paedophilia has been a pretty common thing at various times. All of these things the species has survived, and no one can show that criminalizing these things has done anything but create a class of criminals.

      One man's prude is another man's libertine. I have bigger concerns than whom or what my neighbors are fucking.

    19. Re:GPLv4 by smash · · Score: 1

      Bestiality and child porn involve beings unable to reasonably deny their consent. Slavery used to occur regularly too, are you going to argue in favour of that next? How about lynching and persecution of people based on race? We've got a history of that as well.

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  16. Déjà Vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
  17. Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read a little on your website about your take on technology that uses non-free software. Do you still not own a cell phone? If not, I'd love to hear your perspective on life without one these days, where its just assumed that people own one.

    As a follow-up, where exactly do you draw the line concerning openness of source and whether or not you use software. For example, do you toast bread in a toaster that runs proprietary code? Obviously we're talking about different things here, but I'm curious to know at what point you say "no thanks!" when it comes to locked down technology.

    1. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      On a related note, does he go out to eat at restaurants? Because just like with non open source software, he would be consuming something that does not come with the recipe. How does he trust even the groceries that he buys hasn't been tampered with?

      This is why the free software movement is garbage. It makes no sense outside the world of software.

    2. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > This is why the free software movement is garbage. It makes no sense outside the world of software.

      That's why it's called the Free *Software* movement, not the Free Stuff movement.

    3. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people who care a lot about software freedom draw the line at appliances, with an "appliance" being anything that can't get a firmware upgrade.

      Currently, toasters can't get firmware upgrades (if they even have firmware) so nobody would care.

      However, your computer's BIOS, while in the past was usually impossible to change, can today be upgraded easily. That's why we now have Coreboot.

    4. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not the Free Stuff movement.

      AKA the Racist Democratic Party of America.

    5. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the Civil Rights movement is garbage because it makes/made no sense outside the world of racially-diverse territories of the United States?

      Your logical fallacy is that you assume that, in order for any socio-political movement to have any value, it has to be universally applicable to absolutely anything. You don't hear us talking about "de-segregating" green bell peppers from red ones on the store shelf, instead mixing them all together in the name of civil rights, do you?

    6. Re:Cell phones by Coeurderoy · · Score: 1

      He does not really trust them, and if you put him together with people like this http://www.grain.org/ or that http://www.semencespaysannes.o... (in French)
      You'll find that they have lots in common...
      Of course he (and other Free Software activists) also use things like planes for instance that are full of "non free" stuff, the position is to use
      free software when ever it's possible (and not just "convenient").

      Moreover your sentence

      This is why the free software movement is garbage. It makes no sense outside the world of software.

      makes no sense: many useful things are only useful in their specific fields it does not make them garbage...

      And transparence, independence from vendor lock-in, freedom ... makes sense in many "worlds"

    7. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why the free software movement is garbage. It makes no sense outside the world of software.

      Hmmm.

      This is why the free software movement is garbage. It makes no sense outside the world of software.

      Hmmmmmm.

    8. Re:Cell phones by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Free software doesn't have to make sense outside of its niche. German brewing laws don't apply outside of Germany or beer making but they still serve a tasty purpose where they do apply.

      The problem with the free software movement, at least as RMS and his followers present it, is the assignment of guilt to those who would hold their code proprietary. What about the developers freedom? Do they not have the right to make money if they chose off their work? I think the developer should have the choice to provide whatever license they chose too. If it is truly such an essential piece of technology that society demands "free" access to it then they can change patent laws, use tax payers money to develop an alternative, etc. What they definitely shouldn't be able to do is say: "oh that thing you made and we now realize is a really good idea: give it to us for free or you are a really bad person.".

    9. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For example, do you toast bread in a toaster that runs proprietary code?

      Why in the hell would a toaster have any code at all?? That's just idiotic. It's just a box, heating elements, rheostat, thermostat, and springs. You'd be better asking him what kind of car he drives (probably one made before EFI).

    10. Re:Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His choice to fly instead of talking an alternate, truly open form of travel is most certainly choosing to use open source when it is convenient, rather than when its available.

      --BitZtream

    11. Re:Cell phones by smash · · Score: 1

      I had a look at the coreboot supported motherboards page. It's a non-starter. Pretty much the only hardware newer than say, 2010 (i.e., EOL) is from Google, which has its own set of problems.

      --
      I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
  18. fuck beta!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck beta!!!

    1. Re:fuck beta!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try beta its quite good already

    2. Re:fuck beta!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only it was Free...

  19. GPL by sunderland56 · · Score: 0

    If you truly want free and open software, not "open source", then why not do away with the GPL? That license is a primary reason that many companies, and many developers, want nothing to do with anything 'open'; the terms of the GPL greatly restrict what you can do with the software. So why continue with GPL?

    1. Re:GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html

      Any more questions?
      Or was your question retorical?
      Because surely we can ask Mr. Stallman questions that are more interesting than just the same stuff he's been asked for decades now.

    2. Re:GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your link is mostly RMS wanking over the advertising clause in the original BSD license, and ends up recommending the Apache 2.0 license.

      Duh.

      As someone who works in an actual company and wants to use open source, I can tell you that MIT/Apache 2.0 licensed software is (just barley) possible to get past the Lawyers. GPL open source is a non starter.

      _That_ is the issue that the GP raised. Not some food fight over a mistake made in the original BSD license, and corrected 15 years ago.

    3. Re:GPL by tibit · · Score: 0

      If GPL is "impossible" to get past the "lawyers", then perhaps your lawyers are stupid. Didn't you think of that?

      --
      A successful API design takes a mixture of software design and pedagogy.
    4. Re:GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes. Respond to any suggestion that the GPL might cause problems in some situations with an ad-hominim.

      This must be an RMS thread.

    5. Re: GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The GPL is for the benefit of the end user, not you, or your company, or your lawyers. If it does not suit your needs do not use it. We won't care.

      And, open source != free

    6. Re:GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GPL open source is a non starter.

      That's probably one of the reasons RMS calls it Free Software and not Open Source.

    7. Re:GPL by smash · · Score: 1

      Or, alternatively, the lawyers/company in question have a legitimate concern about protecting hard-won IP that provides them with a competitive advantage in the marketplace.

      --
      I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
  20. How do you feel about Bitcoin? by tom229 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Do you think it's necessary, or even a good idea? Do you own any?

    --
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
    1. Re:How do you feel about Bitcoin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you think it's necessary, or even a good idea? Do you own any?

      It's like he has never answered that question before.

  21. Facebook and Internet.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How do you view Facebook's internet.org initiative? In my opinion, it's even worse than DRM, because today I can opt out of DRM content. What if someday internet access that doesn't pass through Facebook become so expensive I can't afford it? How can we fight to keep the internet away from such corporate control?

    1. Re:Facebook and Internet.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Start companies based on closed source forks of open source software, and then use the proceeds to fight the corporate control and contribute to non-business-critical development of the free codebase?

      Oh wait - we're talking GPL here - nevermind.

  22. GTK future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dear RMS, I for one am very interested in what your view is concerning the future of GNOME and specifically GTK. In the past there were concerns over licensing between GTK and Qt and there seems to be a rise in uptake of Qt. My question is whether you see there being a future in GTK and should developers consider moving their projects to Qt?

  23. Question by The+Cat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Which site would you recommend for grown-up adults who used to visit Slashdot and who want to talk about computers, GNU/Linux and technology?

    1. Re:Question by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 1

      maybe hacker news?

      --
      never bring a twinkie to a food fight.
    2. Re:Question by JustinOpinion · · Score: 5, Interesting

      SoylentNews is a new site (based on SlashCode, in fact) that is complementary to Slashdot in that it seems to be targetting sci/tech discussions.

    3. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh goodie, lets all go over to it and flood every story with "SoylentNews sucks!" comments.

    4. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't ask him here! I don't want the redditers finding the new site.

    5. Re:Question by vivek7006 · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Looks promising

    6. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that glaring red hurts my eyes....

    7. Re:Question by shrodingerscat · · Score: 1

      Current top stories at SoylentNews:

      Singapore's Nativist Problem
      Document from GCHQ Details Disinfo Tactics
      Florida woman forced to connect to city water
      Chicago Pre-Crime - Racism Cloaked in Science

      None of this sounds technology related.

    8. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pipedot.org and technocrat.net are also up and running.

    9. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do I have to register to comment as an anonymous coward?

  24. Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the recent Clang thread, you seemed to say quality of software either isn't important to you, or at least is less important than the software being free software.

    As someone who writes software for a living, this seemed like a "jump the shark" moment. (But maybe you jumped this particular shark long ago.)

    Does it do your moment a disservice to say things like to, and also to have software that isn't of the up-most quality?

    1. Re:Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it do your moment a disservice to say things like to, and also to have software that isn't of the up-most quality?

      If software is bad and open source, you have the freedom to make it better. If software is open source, it can be improved indefinitely by future generations of users. If software is closed source, no matter how good it seems today, future developments, or future OS patches, are likely to degrade that software, and you will have no recourse to improve it.

      Open Source/Free Software is for programmers.

    2. Re:Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it bother you that your choice of words is not of the up-most quality?

    3. Re:Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why do you prefer living in an average quality apartment instead of a deluxe prison cell?"

      How can you still try to make people understand your stance on Freedom of Software after all these years, and always have to answer the same basic questions, hearing the same misconceptions again and again, and keep explaining all of it in speeches, books and web pages, and not go crazy when someone asks again a question like that one?

      I am not that patient.

      How does it feel to spend your whole life trying to help / save people that do not understand at all what you are trying to prevent from happening? If you "succeed", they will still never understand what you did, and by not understanding, will eventually fall in the traps of non-free software.

      If you "fail", people will "get it", but it will be too late. And probably that free software will be an idea of the past.

      How do you do it? I could not. Thanks for trying all those years and still having faith that people will one day "get it".

    4. Re:Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems like the free-ness or lack thereof would be part of the "quality" of the software.
      After all, what good is the right to make one phone call if you can't speak?

    5. Re:Quality by smash · · Score: 1

      How about software that is deliberately "bad" in an attempt to not integrate with other programs? Like GCC, and it's IDE-hostile development for example?

      --
      I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
    6. Re:Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GCC wasn't deliberately bad. GCC is a very mature project and over its life, the structure of the system meant that it naturally grew more and more difficult to make extensions to the system. The system was becoming too complex for outsiders to come in and make non-trivial improvements to it. RMS felt that refactoring the structure of the system to be modular (like how LLVM is modular and cleaner to study for each division) would help the proprietary software writers too much so he told the GCC team not to refactor GCC to be more modular and to continue working within the existing GCC structure. Eventually, the GCC team did make GCC more modular but by the time they approved this direction, the mindshare for open source development in compilers were focused on LLVM rather than GCC.

    7. Re:Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing about free software is that if the quality isn't good enough, then all users will have freedom to improve it and transform it to be good quality. So the quality of free software today isn't a critical issue - if it's free software, we can always change it to be better.

      Before anyone says, "users have no technical aptitude to read source code", I say that users don't need any aptitude to have freedom. Whenever a user needs help, that user should be responsible enough to find a helper. This might mean asking a friend for a favour, joining a community of software enthusiasts and petitioning for their help, or it could mean hiring a computer programmer to write and modify software.

  25. How many by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

    How many times have you been attacked by ninjas?

    --
    Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
    1. Re:How many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More than I expected but less than I'd like.

    2. Re:How many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A more appropriate question would be:

              How many times have you attacked ninjas?

    3. Re:How many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those that don't get it:
      http://xkcd.com/225/

  26. GNU/Hurd by mrflash818 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please share your vision for where you would like to see GNU/Hurd, and GNU software over the next 25 years, and what people would be doing with it.

    --
    Uh, Linux geek since 1999.
  27. Do you forsee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hurd ever being relevant?

  28. 100% Free distro, Fedora is not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fedora has non-free firmware thus it is not completely free.

    1. Re:100% Free distro, Fedora is not by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      That seems to be correct. Binary firmware is their only exception.

    2. Re:100% Free distro, Fedora is not by kthreadd · · Score: 1

      Debian moved all their non-free firmware out of main a couple of years ago, but because they are still present in non-free despite that is not part of Debian itself the FSF won't recommend it. They are fairly strict about their definition of free.

  29. Free hardware? Why not? by jkrise · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my experience; it is far easier to obtain; install and work with Free Software than with Free Hardware. I asked you about this in person 2 years back; but you brushed it aside saying hardware is not trivial to copy.

    Recent events have proved me right; I feel. We simply do not have access to Freedom Hardware at low cost - even the Raspberry Pi has proprietary components in its hardware.

    Why can't the FSF pool resources; license technology from ARM Holdings; and build a truly Free Tablet, Free Cellphone and Free PC running Free GNU/Linux instead of the pseudo-free Android? I am sure the community will pay any money to buy truly free Hardware from the FHF.

    --
    If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
    1. Re:Free hardware? Why not? by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      Fast free video would be nice too. Hate having to choose between awful performance or proprietary binary drivers.

      --
      Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    2. Re:Free hardware? Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      license technology from ARM Holdings

      Unless you want "free as in beer" charity hardware, any licensing of proprietary hardware would immediately render the hardware as non-LIBRE. Not to mention it would be very hard to design anything with the current insane patent system that would not be sueable for infringement by some patent holders, therein likely requiring some licensing agreement. IANAL, but anyone attempting such a project probably needs to talk to one or more specializing in IP law.

      Too often, freedom is an illusion.

    3. Re:Free hardware? Why not? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      How does one verify that the hardware they designed to be free is implemented in the proper way? Since the FSF doesn't own any fabs, they'd have to commission someone else to build the chips. If you'[re talking about tablets and phones, they usually consist of a SOC (System on a Chip). How do you verify that they didn't place any back doors in the hardware when manufacturing the hardware. With software you can read the source, and compile it yourself (and even write your own compiler if you're paranoid). But once a chip is built, it's difficult or impossible to verify what's actually going on inside the chip.

      --

      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    4. Re:Free hardware? Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once code is compiled to machine code, it becomes reasonable difficult to reverse engineer as well.

      With a child, you just x-ray it and verify it matches the die you provided in the first place.

      Its only expensive and time consuming, not really difficult. Its certainly doable if you're that paranoid. Its the same way many chips are reverse engineered and stolen.

    5. Re:Free hardware? Why not? by jrumney · · Score: 2

      You seem to start with an assumption that ARM Holdings would license their technology under a Free license to the FSF. If they don't, then you're back to what Stallman told you 2 years ago - hardware is not trivial to copy.

  30. What do you suggest to do about wifi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've had issues with my built-in wireless and I know this is a big issue in the community. My system shipped with an intel card and it doesn't work with free software. I was told this is due to digital restrictions. So when I tried to replace it there were digital restrictions that prevented me from doing so. My laptop is a Lenovo. Are there any USB wifi adapters you can recommend that might work? The two I've bought in local stores haven't worked. I did look up adapters in h-node that supposedly worked, but did not. I think h-node is not that reliable.

    1. Re:What do you suggest to do about wifi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't necessarily need a USB WiFi adapter. The internal WiFi adapter is a mini-PCIe card that can be replaced. Those cards work much more reliably than USB WiFi adapters.

    2. Re:What do you suggest to do about wifi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GP: "when I tried to replace it there were digital restrictions that prevented me from doing so" ie Lenovo acting like Apple.

  31. The PSTN isn't Free Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why do you encourage people to call you with the telephone instead of using Skype? Both rely on proprietary software.

  32. All alone by Cheeze · · Score: 1

    What do you foresee happening to GNU in the next 20, 50, and 100 years?

    --
    Why read the article when I can just make up a snap judgement?
  33. cloud and freeness by GPLHost-Thomas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hi, Richard!

    In the debian-cloud list, we had a long discussion about wordings, which I also think is very important. It stroke me that you felt cloud was in essence non-free, and that you wanted everyone to stop using the word "cloud" which you (rightly) thought was too vague. But since there is also private IaaS (Infrastructure as a Service), I do think we may have fully free cloud systems.

    I never knew if I was able to convince you that a completely free IaaS software was very important to keep our freedom, and would like to know what is your current feeling about it.

  34. Computer Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mr. Stallman, do you ever play computer games (video games)?
    If so, which ones?

  35. What's your take on our perennial debate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A frequent argument on Slashdot centers on the flexibility granted by the BSD license vs. the restrictions of the GPLv3, especially with regards to CLAs. Both sides have good arguments for their way of doing things and both sides also have excellent counterpoints about ways each license can be misused. Is free software truly free if copyright has to be invoked to enforce it?

  36. Surviving off the GPL by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live a modest life, how ever I do need to pay the bills. For the most part I make my living doing stuff against the ideals of the GPL.
    Here is why.
    1. I am not charismatic enough to gain peoples attention, so I will not make a living off of speeches and publications.

    2. The software I write tends to fill a small niche, so it will not gain mass popularity outside that niche. So my products won't make a good resume item. And the owners of the niche mostly will not donate to my efforts, if they can get it for free. As well wouldn't be distributed on most systems.

    3. The software I write tends to be user friendly and intuitive to use. So consulting off the product or service isn't a good way either.

    4. The ease of Internet Download makes shipping of media seem barbaric.

    Now I would love to make all my stuff open source, however I do need to live, and I prefer if possible not to live off of government handouts. I am a software developer by heart and nature, doing it as a hobby would be a waste of my talents.
    So how would a 100% GPL developer operate in a small business settings?

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    1. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have heard many things about Stallman, 'charismatic' is not one of them. You can knock item 1 off of your list.

    2. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This seems to be THE main question that people that are first introduced to free software ask. If Stallman manages to provide a compelling answer to this, it absolutely HAS to be published on GNU.org as one of the primary articles, it would make it much easier to convince people to accept free software ideals.

    3. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Warbothong · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So how would a 100% GPL developer operate in a small business settings?

      The same way most other people in the world do: get paid for your time.

      Plumbers don't spend months installing pipework in the hope that someone might pay them at the end of it. They also don't lock the valves away and hold the key to ransom in an attempt to force such payment. They also don't meter your usage of the pipes they installed and cut you off if you don't pay (water utilities charge you for *fresh* water, but they don't charge you for recirculating the same stuff through your pipes).

      Why should software developers think any differently?

      PS: I get paid for writing Free Software, I have done at several companies. It's not difficult.

    4. Re:Surviving off the GPL by twocows · · Score: 1

      I think I might be able to provide a bit of an answer to this. I know of two ways (I'm sure there are more) to monetize production of free software. First, there's the Red Hat way: monetize support. If your product is sufficiently complex, this is probably the obvious choice. Otherwise, there's been a recent trend toward crowdfunding new features and certain lower-priority bugfixes. This might be an option for you if your program is something you anticipate a decent number of people using.

      RMS might have something more to say, but this is just my two cents on the issue.

    5. Re:Surviving off the GPL by twocows · · Score: 1

      I guess I should finish reading the post before responding. I missed that you said that support is out. So I think in your case, I can recommend maybe trying crowdfunding for features additions and possibly some bugfixes.

      (was going to post this one AC, but I'm still on cooldown)

    6. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally charismatic, no. But in front of an audience with a speech prepared, the man is a firecracker.

    7. Re:Surviving off the GPL by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      This seems to be THE main question that people that are first introduced to free software ask. If Stallman manages to provide a compelling answer to this, it absolutely HAS to be published on GNU.org as one of the primary articles, it would make it much easier to convince people to accept free software ideals.

      I've heard him answer the question in the Q&A section of a couple of his talks on Youtube. I don't want to speak for him, but let's just say that I think his answers so far to that question, if they were more widely know, would not make it easier to convince most people who work in the software industry. That doesn't say anything about whether or not he is right or wrong in principle it just says that he probably will never have things his way.

      I guess maybe Stallman is playing the "take the idealistic extreme position, leave the pragmatic compromising to others" game.

    8. Re:Surviving off the GPL by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      yes he does have that for some people: "exercising a compelling charm that inspires devotion in others"

    9. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      Shared source commercial source code licenses have often been mentioned as an option that would allow programmers to charge for the ability to access their software but at the same time would provide sources to the consumer of the software. This could also allow the consumer to upload changes they make to the software to a revision control system provided by the programmers who own the software. Free software is not the only way that users of software could be granted access to source code, a commercial source code license is another means.

    10. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you made any plans to open source your work after our death or are you just listing things you wouldn't do anyways?

    11. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      based on previous interviews I've seen with RMS, I'm pretty sure he would have no practical advice to offer in your case. At best, I believe he would respond with the following:

      1. restate his philosophy about free software
      2. tell you that you are robbing your users of their freedom, which is immoral
      3. recommend that you get a different job writing software that does not compromise the freedom of its users

    12. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Do you honestly expect anyone to expend time and effort on a serious answer, when you'll just come back to the next Stallman interview with "5. I suck too much to do $answer, how is anybody supposed to make money off of FOSS?"

      Now I would love to make all my stuff open source

      Good joke; was this supposed to be posted AC?

    13. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having had the pleasure of attending one of his speeches, I can confirm his stage presence. The man can deliver his points very, very well, to the point of having a full auditorium hanging to every word of his. Never seen that before with any other speaker. He is, for lack of a better word, intense when on stage.

      I wasn't invited to the after-talk party, so I can't comment on his personal charisma.

    14. Re:Surviving off the GPL by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I have his answer for you already, don't bother, here is his answer and I quote:

      Well, the most simple alternative was to leave the software field, do something else. Now a lot of programmers say to me, 'the employers hiring programmers demand that I do this -- if I don't do this I will starve.' Now, that's silly. Anybody can leave the field of programming. Even in the US, there are millions of people who make a living not by writing software. I have no other special skills, nothing else that I'm particularly good at. But I'm sure I could have become a waiter. (Now, maybe I couldn't be a waiter at one of the fanciest restaurants.) There is nothing unethical about being a waiter. And there is one thing -- you are not going to starve.

      - so become a waiter, RMS tells you so.

      AFAIC RMS can go fuck himself with a big broomstick. My freedom to do business the way I see fit is only about 100Trillion times more important to me than ALL of RMS's musings about morality and his version of 'freedom'.

    15. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Java+Pimp · · Score: 1

      OT but I agree it's near impossible to make money from niche open source projects but I'd argue it would still make a good resume item. Anything you've done that you are proud of shows passion, dedication, commitment and says a lot about you as a candidate regardless of how relevant it is to the position.

      --
      Ascalante: Your bride is over 3,000 years old.
      Kull: She told me she was 19!
    16. Re:Surviving off the GPL by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Who will pay you for your time? If the software that I write is free?

      Your model works if you are going to build software for a particular end user, but if you are trying for a group of people, than who is going to be the one that pays the bill.

      Organization X, Y, and Z needs a product to do something. I expect other similar organization would want this too. The work will take me 5 months to complete. I have a relationship with X but not with the others. I build for X they pay me for their time. Now normally for that they own the software and can choose to give it to the others or sell it or just hold onto it. Organization X who had paid me a lot of money to make the product usually doesn't want me to give it away to their competitors. So their competitors get the advantage at companies X expense.

      For plumbers you can't duplicate your work at near 0 cost. So your analogy is faulty.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    17. Re:Surviving off the GPL by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      To make my money, I sell my time to the organization and they own the rights to the code, they can do whatever they want with it (Sell it, offer it as a SaaS, etc...). Most of the time they will not make it open source.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    18. Re:Surviving off the GPL by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      That is a stupid answer.
      I have worked hard, studied and got a college degree, so I can do such work.
      That is like saying a Doctor after 4 years of med school, should work for free, and make a living tending bars.

      I write software during business hours, after this time, I have other things in my life I like to follow. Working an other job, will mean I will not have much time to work on software. Thus I will not get much work done.

      So I am working at a sub-optimal job for my skills + I am not working optimally at what I am good at. All in all a net loss.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    19. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Who will pay you for your time? If the software that I write is free?

      Who pays journalists who write for free newspapers?

      > Your model works if you are going to build software for a particular end user, but if you are trying for a group of
      > people, than who is going to be the one that pays the bill.

      One of them. Who cares? The guy you're replying to writes free software (which anyone can copy) for a customer (or customers) who need(s) it.

      You're looking at it the wrong with with all competitors and everything. Sure, most companies won't want you to do that, but then again, some companies don't like you even using free software, let alone writing it. If you write free software there's a good chance you'll be using free software with licenses which force you to release your code anyway; the guy paying for the software will know this and - unless you believe the OP is lying - is totally cool with it.

    20. Re:Surviving off the GPL by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      Well the ideas that came to mind for me is that,

      1. You could charge for labor eg; software by commission.
      2. You could, depending on the audience of you codes technical abilities, charge for compiled binaries.
      3. You could go the java route and put ads in the installer.
      4. Your complied binaries could come with ads in the program if it a mobile app it seems to have become an accepted practice :-\
      5. You could duel license the code, haveing proprietary branch and a open branch.
      6. Modify it to be a cloud service? Not knowing what field your software is for this may or may not work.
      7. if a game or such like you could have in app purchases.
      8. kickstarter to fund development.

      Thats 8 ways I thought up in a few minutes their are probably more.

      --
      ---Saying gnome 3 is better than windows 8 not so much a compliment as it is damning with light praise.
    21. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Creepy · · Score: 1

      Not only stupid, INCORRECT. Before I was a programmer I worked in a high end restaurant. I made minimum wage (plus tips) and had to pay for any food I ate, the cheapest entree being right around my take home pay for any given day. Getting caught even eating a breadstick while on the job could get you fired, since they were $8 a basket (or two free with a pasta entree). Stuff like steak and lobster was a week's pay.

      I did not spend 5 1/2 years in a University racking up $30000 in debt to continue to work for minimum wage in a restaurant. That is what Philosophy majors do, not Engineers.

    22. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If people weren't concerned with making money, then there would not be any opposition to free software.

      The only other counterargument, besides money, that ever really happens is the security-by-obscurity argument, and both totally open source projects and totally proprietary groups have generally agreed that something is only secure if an attacker who knows the whole algorithm and still can't break in. The only secrets that work are things like passwords and private keys.*

      Companies close their source because they think it gives them a competitive advantage which gives them money. They hire people to write this software, and those people do it because it gets them money. Individuals write closed-source software because they hope to sell it and are worried about undermining their sales when any joker could compile their source and redistribute it for free -- competing with themselves. Nobody is really making closed-source software for any other reason. So yeah, I'm sure he'd love to make all of his stuff open source if he didn't perceive a financial incentive to do otherwise.

      * There is another approach that isn't talked about as much, which I'll call "security by legality", that forces any attacker to violate some law that would not have been broken without the mechanism in place. This is how copyleft code stays copyleft -- it's simply illegal to steal it and redistribute it in closed form. I've seen a company generate a security system that was attempting to solve a theoretically technically unsolvable problem. The technically correct solution was to disable certain boneheaded functionality, but that functionality was legally required. The "hole" that was theoretically necessary was instead covered by a software patent which should be good for the useful life of that software. It's one of the few cases where I think some anti-software patent slashdotters might actually have been on board with it. Maybe.

    23. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Warbothong · · Score: 1

      Who will pay you for your time? If the software that I write is free?

      Software is not free. It takes time and money to write, so get paid for your time. Once it's written, you've already been paid, so why not give it away for free?

      Your model works if you are going to build software for a particular end user, but if you are trying for a group of people, than who is going to be the one that pays the bill.

      Do it iteratively, eg. charge for making a basic framework and charge for adding features. Let each customer choose how far they're willing to go.

      Organization X, Y, and Z needs a product to do something. I expect other similar organization would want this too. The work will take me 5 months to complete. I have a relationship with X but not with the others. I build for X they pay me for their time.

      Sounds sensible.

      Now normally for that they own the software and can choose to give it to the others or sell it or just hold onto it.

      That's where you're going wrong. If you maintain copyrights over the code you write, you can release it however you want. Make it clear to the customer that they have free, perpetual access to the code, but so does everyone else.

      Organization X who had paid me a lot of money to make the product usually doesn't want me to give it away to their competitors. So their competitors get the advantage at companies X expense.

      Most software is for internal use (bug/issue tracking, reporting, HR, calendars, server admin, etc.) which don't give a competitive advantage other than allowing the business to operate. If X makes an inferior product to Y but Y fails due to bad internal software, then consumers are left with an inferior product; hence it's in everyone's interest to have mundane, internal software work as well as possible. Companies pay for solutions to their problems; if a company has an issue-tracking problem and they pay someone to fix it, and that person just-so-happens to solve it by writing an issue-tracking application, why would the company care who else uses the application? As long as they get what they paid for, their problem is solved.

      If, on the other hand, an organisation like X has built their business model on exclusive access to software, then they're a proprietary software company and should be left to fail. They clearly don't care about sharing or cooperation. This applies to Web/cloud/*aaS stuff too. Although it's more rare, I've found work writing Free Software with a network-use clause (specifically ocPortal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O... , which is under the CPAL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C... ).

      For plumbers you can't duplicate your work at near 0 cost. So your analogy is faulty.

      Quite true, but at least it didn't involve a car ;)

    24. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Jungle+guy · · Score: 1
      It seems he has a smal business or is a self emplyed developer. You are tellling him to quit it and instead get a job at a company and become an employee (like a journalist) or become a freelancer for companies or individuals (like a plumber).

      Im am not sure if these are valid options for this guy: he wants to keep his small business, and asks if he can develop free software instead of closed softare – and still make a living.

    25. Re:Surviving off the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't do any development work before you find a customer who is willing to pay you for your software. You have to go to the marketplace, ask them what sort of software they need and then you have to calculate a quote to deliver the software. "I can deliver a system that achieves your requirements. It will cost you $70000 and it will take me 10 weeks to deliver it, do you agree to this?" When you find a customer willing to pay your price, then you can start working. Do not do the work before you find a customer who will pay for it.

      Put another way, if you're selling software for $300, then you shouldn't be doing more than $300 worth of development for that software. Let's say you value your time at $300 per hour, you shouldn't invest more than one hour's worth of development time into that software. If you happen to sell the exact same software to a different customer, then it's fine, it's simply extra money for the work that you've already profited from.

  37. Slashdot Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What do you think? Does it look nice? Would you use it? Do you support those of us who gate its guts?

  38. Organizational decrepitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How do you reach people whose salaries depend on them remaining unreachable?

  39. What do you think about the Neo900? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://neo900.org/
    Would you maybe want to own one? Why?

    They seem to go different way than FSF does with "Respects Your Privacy" program - instead of modifying the modem to either be free or act "as a circuit", which both may be not feasible given their limited resources, they seem to go with the "sandboxing" way - giving the user a way to control and monitor what does the modem do. They want to achive the same result, but with different way than proposed by FSF. What is your take on that?

  40. Who is your hero? by korbulon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And if not hero, then perhaps mildly inspiring personage (real or otherwise)?

  41. Why you are not active? by kifcaliph · · Score: 1

    for me what you really did in the software field is like what Katniss and Peeta did to end the fight in the hunger games by writing free software. but I feel now you are not active as before. so can you tell me why??

  42. I just want to say Thank You! by megalon · · Score: 2

    I appreciate what you have done. I understand your ideology and wish you the best.

    Thank you.

  43. GTK vs Qt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What is the future of GTK given the issues we currently face with GTK3. Is Qt the future of the GNU/Linux desktop?

  44. Follow up Question: Recommend Talky.io now? by gQuigs · · Score: 2

    https://talky.io/ AFAICT is a fully free software video chat system. Have you used it? Would you recommend it to others?

    It uses http://simplewebrtc.com/.

  45. Can Free Software restore our privacy? by exa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Dear RMS,

    Many users have fallen victim to spying software such as facebook, and have willingly or unwittingly surrendered their privacy rights to corporations which sell their information.

    Can Free Software salvage this situation and make the Internet a more private, a more free place for the common user? And what must we do about it?

    Regards,

    --
    --exa--
  46. Wireless communication in various forms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are your opinions on medium- to short-distance wireless communication in its various forms, i.e., cellular carriers, WiFi, Bluetooth? Issues could include privacy, protocols, access to source, etc.

  47. Semi off-topic by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    Not a question for RMS, but a question about /. interviews. What happened to the one with Limor Fried, aka LadyAda of AdaFruit? Questions were asked but no response ever posted.

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    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    1. Re:Semi off-topic by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I have also seen many of the question sessions pass by without any responses posted ever.

  48. "locking/unlocking" of devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Sir,
      I recently read that there might be new legislation making it illegal to "unlock" a telephony-capable device (PDA/Smarphone/etc.).
    What is your opinion on obstructing effective and efficient use of technology?

  49. Trying to monetize an open standard by Billly+Gates · · Score: 0

    RMS

    I am trying to use GNU code to put in my product where I will patent and trademark it and then charge A LOT of money in return. My hope is to poison some open standards so they can use my other standard which I will have free, but all closed sourced instead in my evil plot. From there a new EULA will be introduced where upon a certain metric of time after my standard takes over the free one, I will have IP rights over anything on their computers.

    I feel the need to dominate others and would love nothing more than to have my users sell all their children into slavery for my master vision of a new world order. I need to do this to feel better about myself since I am all jealous of my friends who have actual jobs and lives. I have an army of master robots on hand and plan to take the whole world hostage unless they bow to me and sign an EULA saying they only have the right to pursue their lives as their lives are a copy and not a real one. I own the real one just like Windows where you only have a copy. MS has the real one etc.

    My question is which editor should I use to perform this? Vi or Emacs?

    Thank you,

    Sincerely,

    Patrick Bateman

  50. Plant breeding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could you imagine that you'll get active in the area of plant breeding? You could create new species of e.g. potatoes (out of "public domain potatoes") and allow people to create new ones of those only if they are willing to make them available under a "free license", thus bringing the concept of "share-alike" to plant breeding.

    You could call it OTL = OpenTuber License

  51. 4chan's /g/ technology board by snarfies · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You are an idol on 4chan's technology board, /g/, including an iconographic picture of you in that board's sticky. At one point you've even addressed us, or at least some common misconceptions circulated on 4chan (http://stallman.org/to-4chan.html).

    Do you read 4chan at all? How did we come to your attention? Are you okay with your demigod status there?

    1. Re:4chan's /g/ technology board by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /g/ (and 4chan) is garbage and full of know-nothings, and it takes two seconds of visiting the website to figure that out. Go back to 4chan.

    2. Re:4chan's /g/ technology board by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      Ah so that is why this thread gained so many trolls so fast. 4chan does have a weird way of showing the affection for tech/web figures. I remember a talk moot gave about the odd way 4chan denizens showed him their appreciation towards him.

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      ---Saying gnome 3 is better than windows 8 not so much a compliment as it is damning with light praise.
  52. Staying positive? by chrisl456 · · Score: 1

    Do you have any advice for keeping a positive attitude in this screwed-up world of government surveillance, software patents, and DRM?

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    -chris
  53. Beards by pr0nbot · · Score: 1

    How do you feel about the current popularity of beards, and what can I do to make sure my own beard style is not incorporated into a proprietary system?

  54. how is the 'weather' where you live? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we must like ours? http://www.geoengineeringwatch... so we can keep us cool? stay safe dude

  55. Llieonuvxr1994 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd jsut lkie to icnrjetet for a mneomt. Waht y'roue rifeernrg to as Lunix, is in fcat, GNU/Lunix, or as Iv'e retlecny tkaen to cinllag it, GNU puls Lniux. Luinx is not an oatipnerg ssyetm utno iltesf, but raethr ahnteor fere cneomopnt of a fluly ftcnoiunnig GNU ssytem mdae uuesfl by the GNU celbiors, slhel utiiletis and vtial sseytm ctonenomps crniopmsig a flul OS as dniefed by POISX.

    Mnay cmotuepr uress run a mioifedd vseiorn of the GNU steysm eevry day, wotiuht rleiazing it. Torhugh a pluiacer trun of eevnts, the visoern of GNU wichh is wieldy uesd tdoay is otfen caleld Lniux, and mnay of its uress are not arwae taht it is bialcalsy the GNU stseym, dopelveed by the GNU Pojrcet.

    Trehe ralely is a Luinx, and teshe pleope are unisg it, but it is jsut a prat of the seystm tehy use. Lniux is the knreel: the paorrgm in the sestym taht aacltoles the mec'naihs reucresos to the otehr prormags taht you run. The krneel is an esineatsl prat of an oetirpang sestym, but usslees by iesltf; it can olny fotcnuin in the cxontet of a cmotlpee oatprneig ssytem. Luinx is nlmlraoy uesd in cioonmtbian wtih the GNU onpieatrg stesym: the wolhe sestym is baasiclly GNU wtih Liunx adedd, or GNU/Lnuix. All the so-caelld Lniux disotibriutns are ralely dbtotirniusis of GNU/Liunx.

    1. Re:Llieonuvxr1994 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pro tip: use spell checking.

  56. Error in summary by simplypeachy · · Score: 1

    "digital rights management" should read "digital restrictions management". I don't need software to manage my rights.

    1. Re:Error in summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're not your rights. They're the corporations' rights..... but rights nonetheless.

  57. Time to stop fighting for GNU/Linux by jaiyen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Isn't it time to let this go? Fair or not, 'Linux' has won even if only because it's a more marketable name. Isn't encouraging community infighting over this distracting from many far more important free software issues?

    1. Re:Time to stop fighting for GNU/Linux by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      Isn't it time to let this go? Fair or not, 'Linux' has won even if only because it's a more marketable name. Isn't encouraging community infighting over this distracting from many far more important free software issues?

      I would say Linux is the better name because Linux is now and probably has always been more than just GNU/Linux, there is BusyBox/Linux, Dalvik/Linux (aka Android), Dis (plan9 like vm)/Linux (aka Inferno), and more. So referring to the whole ecosystem as Linux is the most apt decryption. Besides there is already a GNU operating system, it happens to be called Hurd. Hurd also just happens to be unstable and nearly unusable. I would probably say though we have all been to tribal in our community, as many of use use other Kernels some use one of the BSD's, some use OpenSolaris derivatives, Others use Darwin (the open source core of OSX also known as the bastard child of Freebsd, the Mach microkernel, and NeXTSTEP). There are even some Minix users out there still. I would say that we should instead look at it as the Open Source Unix/POSIX ecosystem. Although that would probably sound even worse than liGNUx that Stallman recomended as an alternative to GNU/Linux.

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      ---Saying gnome 3 is better than windows 8 not so much a compliment as it is damning with light praise.
  58. When does "free" become "not free"? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Let me just state up front, I think the new versions of the GPL are becoming exactly what the GPL was originally used to protect agains, another intrusive EULA, restricting usage because someone doesn't like that usage. I personally use BSD style licensing, because I create for others to use, and I am not concerned with how they use it. My source is open, free, to use as you (end user / repackager / thief) see fit. By keeping my source pure, at my point, forks become the one-offs that are abandoned, while mine remains (i've already seen this). I truly believe that what goes around, comes around.

    My question is, when does "free" stop being free? My reading of the GPL3 is such that it is placing restrictions on use, simply because of how it is being used, not because of anything else. Using GPL 2, or better yet, BSD, one is not restricting its use, and isn't that better for everyone? Restricting use, is not "free" in my definition of "free".

    On the other hand, I admire your zealotry. People like you(and me??) drive the conversations we need to have, even if we disagree.

    --
    Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    1. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by Microlith · · Score: 1

      I think the new versions of the GPL are becoming exactly what the GPL was originally used to protect agains, another intrusive EULA, restricting usage because someone doesn't like that usage.

      The GPL does not restrict usage, not even GPLv3. It continues to apply only in the case of redistribution.

      My reading of the GPL3 is such that it is placing restrictions on use

      Redistribution goes beyond use, and is specifically the scenario the GPL was designed to have an impact in. You can continue to use software however you see fit, even in ways that would violate the GPL if redistributed.

    2. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 0

      Actually, the GPL restricts you from making use of, say, a library in your software. If you link against the libreadline headers, then your software must be GPL. If you don't distribute readline and people have to get it themselves, your software still must be GPL.

      I have often considered writing a readline-bsd header that only serves as a linkage target, allowing you to link to non-readline and then use readline.

    3. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the GPL restricts you from making use of, say, a library in your software.

      That's not "use"; that's what copyright law refers to as "creation and distriubution of derivative works".

    4. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where does it say this? Give the wording which supports this assertation.

    5. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by Microlith · · Score: 1

      the GPL restricts you from making use of, say, a library in your software.

      Technically, you restrict yourself.

      If you link against the libreadline headers, then your software must be GPL.

      No, your software remains whatever license you prefer it be under. It must be GPL if you redistribute it. From the libreadline site:

      Readline is free software, distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 3. This means that if you want to use Readline in a program that you release or distribute to anyone, the program must be free software and have a GPL-compatible license.

      So even if you wrote a bsd header, you'd still be linking to a GPL readline and thus subject. But that, again, only matters if you release your software to other people and don't swap the GPL libreadline out.

    6. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      Actually, the GPL restricts you from making use of, say, a library in your software. If you link against the libreadline headers, then your software must be GPL. If you don't distribute readline and people have to get it themselves, your software still must be GPL.

      I have often considered writing a readline-bsd header that only serves as a linkage target, allowing you to link to non-readline and then use readline.

      A library shim... could work. Would probably eat extra cycles but unless speed is a issue that would not be to big of a problem otherwise.
      Though I wonder at the situation the made this a necessity I mean why was the library was not licensed with the LGPL which is meant for libraries to prevent this being a issue while still protecting the free/open source nature of said code.

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      ---Saying gnome 3 is better than windows 8 not so much a compliment as it is damning with light praise.
    7. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by smash · · Score: 1

      No, the GPL restricts me. If i have a project that borrows/licenses non-GPL code, and there is GPL3 licensed code that I could make use of in my project, the viral nature of the GPL prevents me from including it in my project as I have no authority to re-license the other included code that I do not own. So i need to reinvent the wheel. BSD has no such restriction - and I am free to include BSD licensed code, release the code I am authorised to release (without tainting the rest of the project), etc.

      --
      I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
    8. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can use GPL software as much as you wish in your project, the GPL is not a usage license, it doesn't restrict your usage. The GPL is a license that permits software conveyancing. If your project uses GPL software and you wish to distribute the resulting combined program, then you will have to follow the rules of distribution as stated by the GPL (and copyright law). If you do not distribute the program, the GPL has no effect on you.

    9. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Technically, I restrict myself to Comcast as well.

      I can release my software to others and not send them gpl libreadline, and the system they run it on dynamically links it to libreadline. That's what I was getting at with getting out from under readline.

    10. Re:When does "free" become "not free"? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Not a shim. Think about how Microsoft Windows apps run with Wine: Wine implements WindowsAllocMemory() and such, and then they just load their library to supply that. So I'd write a Readline header, compile against it, and ship the binary. The target system has GPL readline--which I've never touched in producing the application--so it works.

      Readline is GPL specifically to force software vendors to A) pay extra expense (labor, money, time) to write their own replacement; or B) release under GPL. RMS wants glibc to be GPL, but figured if he did that then people would just use freebsd libc instead.

  59. Why a gnu? by korbulon · · Score: 1

    Why not perhaps a more majestic creature?

    1. Re:Why a gnu? by PetiePooo · · Score: 2

      Why not perhaps a more majestic creature?

      Similar facial hair...

  60. Compiling, Linking and Embedding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There is a recent trend (as in ever since the smartphones came out, Mac/PC/Linux has been doing sandboxing/jails before then, but never to this extent) where it's now incredibly difficult to use third party libraries as external shared libraries because the sandbox prevents access to them, making them just huge wastes of code if 100% of the functionality isn't used. What changes could be made to a future GPL to allow developers to use statically compiled parts of free software without destroying it's purpose of the GPL?

    (Like IMO, many free software libraries are referenced in a credits/licences file that is accessible from inside the software, but that is not the same as sharing the source code to the software.)

  61. I'm done asking questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let him ask US questions

  62. Why Unix didnt provide a free kernel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi Richard, Reading about Unix, and the development of the Free Software movement, I learnt that nowdays:
    a) GNU-linux distros use the linux kernel.
    b) BSD distros, Darwin and comercial derivatives from Darwin use the Unix kernel given to some Univiersities some time ago.

    So my question is:
    Why the owners of the UNIX operating system never made open source the Unix original kernel?
    So today we are forced to emulate Unix using other kernels.

    regards Hector. hecalvar@yahoo.com

    1. Re:Why Unix didnt provide a free kernel by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 2

      The BSD kernels are descendants of the original Unix kernel by bloodline, though they do not contain any original AT&T code has it has been replaced. This was an issue with the USL lawsuit. It was once common for computer vendors to allow free copying of software, since the computer vendor made their money off the hardware and the software was bundled with the hardware in all cases. Computer vendors were getting money to develop the software no matter how much the software was being shared. There was a lawsuit from software only companies that required operating systems to be sold seperately from the hardware which changed that, though now we seem to be back to users being required to buy the OS with the computer but without the open sourceness being so common.

      The original Unix sources have been open sourced, in the early 2000s, long after they were reimplemented by Linux and expunged from BSD.

  63. Re:Denommus by dugancent · · Score: 0

    I don't care if he is the founder of modern civilization. His holier-than-thou, my wayor the highway attitude leaves with me with a bad taste. I have little respect for the man.

    --
    SJWs are the new boogeyman. -Me
  64. Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you think about /. Beta?

  65. Airport security and agencies by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

    In the aftermath (well we're still in the middle of all this...) of the current whistle-blower cases (Snowden et al.) many people related to them have been detained/questioned/.. by various agencies especially at airports. Have you yourself experienced more scrutiny towards your person this past year, have you ever been the subject/victim of questionable interaction with agencies in general, and how did you tackle these events?

  66. Shorter copyright by oneandoneis2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I believe you're in favour of much-reduced copyright terms - a few years rather than the endless decades of today.

    If copyright were reduced to, say, five years, then the vast majority of GNU code would become public-domain - copyleft depending on copyright as it does, this would mean anyone could create a closed-source fork of, say, emacs. How do you feel about that?

    --
    So.. it has come to this
    1. Re:Shorter copyright by ChiefNX · · Score: 2

      That's interesting. Wouldn't the copyright / licensing on emacs be renewed with each new release though? IANAL - which of these is true? Emacs would become public domain Source code from versions of emacs released up to 2009 would become public domain Emacs would not be public domain at all, since it is still actively developed

    2. Re:Shorter copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this would mean anyone could create a closed-source fork of, say, emacs.

      And within a 'few years' it too would be in the public domain.

    3. Re:Shorter copyright by Pausanias · · Score: 1

      If the source code is never published, then the source never needs to go into the public domain at all. Once the GPL becomes unenforceable, then there is nothing there to force you to publish your source code. So:

      1) Emacs vXX is released in 2014.
      2) Copyright expires in 2019 and it goes into public domain.
      3) Company downloads vXX as public domain code and makes a sells a source program based on it.
      4) In 2024, the Company's binaries become public domain, but since it never released source, its improvements never do.

      So, in summary, while the binaries will eventually be public domain, this does not replace the GPL's current function of forcing the sharing of source.... the Company's source code improvements to emacs can be kept private forever.

    4. Re:Shorter copyright by Pausanias · · Score: 1

      Mod this one up everyone... the ONLY question out of all of these that we can't guess Stallman's answer to.

    5. Re:Shorter copyright by Pausanias · · Score: 1

      I meant "closed source," not "sells a source"

    6. Re:Shorter copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Answered here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html

  67. Is Linux becoming Windowized? by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 2

    I remember when compiz was new, demos of it running effectively on 7 year old machines.
    Recently I replaced the had drive in an old laptop with an SSD despite meeting the minimal requirements for Mint KDE I had many problems installing.
    I kept running into out of memory problems when the LiveCD used the ramdisk it created. Finally I created a VM on which I installed a basic copy of the distro, I then rsynced the files to the old laptop drive. There I tweaked a few thing installed grub, made the drive bootable. Then I booted from a USB dock installed ubiquity on the old drive and installed Mint to the SSD. This seems like a very exhausting process to go through to install Linux.

    In doing this I see a lot of defects in linux: growing memory requirements, drowing disk space requirements, inefficient sytems. In this sense Linux and free software seems to be becoming Windowized. Good archotectural decisions are been forsook for the sake of expediency, even to the point of exposing the systems to malware writers. Is this a concern for you?

    1. Re: Is Linux becoming Windowized? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ask Linus this, not RMS

    2. Re: Is Linux becoming Windowized? by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

      Actually, even better, ask the people at KDE, Gnome, Ubuntu, Red Hat, freedesktop.org, etc., from whence most of what is running atop Linux on a typical desktop system actually originates. The kernel itself still is, or at least can be made, fairly lean and robust. And you do not *have* to use all the other stuff. It makes life easier for end-users accustomed to Windows, but if you want to rip out pulseaudio and udev and dbus and all that stuff because you genuinely do not want or need it, you certainly can.

  68. Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by bussdriver · · Score: 2

    How about relating how OS have failed to the point where users are running virtual machines. (We all know restricted software makes this worse, but it is not exclusively their fault.)

    GNU/Hurd does not seem like so much overhead today given the huge amount of waste a VM creates. Perhaps GNU/Hurd is better suited to address where things have been progressing?

    Multics doesn't seem so "bloated" anymore either.

    1. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "How about relating how OS have failed to the point where users are running virtual machines."

      Non Sequitur much? You should probably learn about Virtual Machines and why people use them. I'll give you a hint: VMs mean more Operating Systems, not less, ergo concluding that VMs are an indication that "OS have failed" is phenomenally ludicrous. (Also, I have no idea what the hell that is even supposed to mean)

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    2. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by swb · · Score: 1

      Density is probably the principal reason for VM adoption, but part of the need for density is the desire to segregate applications/services from each other even when resources are available because operating systems have done a historically poor job of providing in-OS segmentation of them from resource, security, etc perspectives, as well as easing maintenance so a reboot/restore/rebuild of app system X doesn't take out other apps/services in the process.

      They also gain significant portability across hardware platforms, easing disaster recovery, hardware migrations, fault tolerance/high availability, etc.

    3. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by Burz · · Score: 1

      I agree to some extent. But today's mass-market PC hardware may not be the platform for a microkernel revival.

      And as Rutkowska points out, an OS like Qubes can play both hypervisor and microkernel roles, and throw in extras such as isolating you from compromised hardware devices.

    4. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by smash · · Score: 1

      Actually, VMs with a proper hypervisor can SAVE hardware resources via memory sharing, memory compression, etc. I've replaced about 50 servers with 5 physical machines for example.

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    5. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "Density is probably the principal reason for VM adoption"

      No, but it would explain your assertion.

      " but part of the need for density is the desire to segregate applications/services from each other even when resources are available because operating systems have done a historically poor job of providing in-OS segmentation of them from resource, security, etc perspectives"

      That's ridiculous. The reason is that hardware and OS technology have advanced to the point where it possible to run many instances of an OS on a single piece of hardware. There are many advantages to VMs, including the ability to migrate running instances from one piece of hardware to another and easy re-use of installations and rollbacks to known good machine states. They don't provide isolation any better than just having two machines does, so the idea that having multiple OS instances running seperately is an advantage is a completely ludicrous Red Herring.

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    6. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by bussdriver · · Score: 1

      Multics was too complex so we got Unix which eventually ended up being more complex than the winning argument being made at the time. For HURD / microkernels, the argument is that it is too much overhead for the added stability and security it provides; but now we are running VMs with more total overhead to get SOME similar benefits. VM's add features beyond those obviously...

      The point being made is that microkernels are attacked on overhead but here we are adding tons of overhead in various places that leave those complaints coming up empty... Hypervisors make me think of microkernels, in a general sense; obviously they are not the same.

      On the topic of VMs being a sign OS have failed to do their job. The leads into a direction GNU/Hurd should be moving towards and my comments along those lines are to try to open eyes and bring up ideas. More than most OS, Hurd is situated to do some big actually innovative things to address the short comings of modern OS which fuel the desire for VMs. There isn't a feature that VMs provide that an OS couldn't do.. and I think they should be doing them instead of obsessing within the same problem space.

    7. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0

      "There isn't a feature that VMs provide that an OS couldn't do.."

      Do you know what a VM is? A VM is a feature the OS provides, so it is pretty redundant to say that, and makes me think you either don't understand VMs or haven't thought things through very well.

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    8. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by bussdriver · · Score: 1

      Well I can't expect everybody to understand what I'm trying to say. Whether or not I am to blame doesn't matter, you don't understand and I don't have the time to spend on a minority. If you are just playing a academic style definition game then just go to hell; I deal with enough of that crap.

    9. Re:Rise of VMs and failure of the OS by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "Well I can't expect everybody to understand what I'm trying to say. "

      Perhaps not, but it would be nice if you understood what it was you were trying to say ;-)

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  69. People like apps by thetagger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is an entire generation of people out there for whom mobile apps, mostly on iOS and Android, are the way in which they do their computing. The more successful apps are usually very well-designed with incredible user interfaces, an area where free software has not achieved much success, and sold at very low prices and, in many cases, also monetized through stolen personal data.

    It appears to me that the GNU project is mostly ignoring this important area - I am aware of Replicant and F-Droid but these are well behind their proprietary counterparts at the moment. What should we do? Ignore mobile and hope it goes away, try to get onboard with Replicant and F-Droid, try to bring in a new generation of free software developers that is native to the mobile environment, or avoid the mobile "ecosystem" completely and try to work on the hardware side and try to make free hardware that is not inherently trackable/centralized and then run free software on top of that instead?

    1. Re:People like apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free software is incompatible with the Apple app store. Heck, common sensibilities are incompatible with the Apple app store:

      Imagine the outrage if owners of GE refrigerators could only buy food purchased at GE owned grocery stores.

  70. Open-source government tools by StripedCow · · Score: 1

    In this day and age, where social media are ubiquitous, don't you think that governments need to catch up?
    Why don't you create an open-source set of tools that allows governments to start dialogues with their citizens, and allows concerned citizens to make their voices louder?

    To be more concrete, I'm thinking of one or more of the following:
    1. An _official_ moderated forum to host political discussions.
    2. Moderation of issues/comments on this forum should be hierarchical and based on a fair voting scheme, such that no unjustified censoring can take place.
    3. Online polls, created by citizens or MCs, could provide valuable insight.
    4. Governments could require their MCs to spend at least X hours per week answering questions.

    Of course, once installed in Congress, you could use this software to have your favorite issues (software freedom, etc.) more broadly addressed :)

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    1. Re:Open-source government tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a design on the way - not RMS

  71. DRM is one thing, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...A major problem is the proliferation of formats for ebooks. First, an author/publisher needs to produce multiple versions of the same thing. Second, will anything be readable in the future? In this case, "future" may just be ten years hence. I actually wrote to NIST suggesting that there should be a standard ebook format. I got a polite reply from the NIST director saying that "it's not our job." The US standards agency saying that standards making is not its job? LOL!

  72. Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean I'm not free to dump my used motor oil down the drain?

    Most software projects are behind schedule and many are cancelled, so that portion is not a GPL issue but a software engineering issue.

    The idea of freedom is that you cannot infringe upon others. If someone chooses to participate in a GLP'd project then they have that freedom to choose.

    1. Re:Freedom by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I would just duck up my septic tank if I dumped my used motor oil in it. It is just the same for, you, though there might be different scaling effects.

    2. Re:Freedom by smash · · Score: 1

      Giving away IP for free is entirely different to polluting the environment.

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  73. Game development by wangstabill · · Score: 1

    Why does the game community not understand the benefits of Free and Open Source software [0], even though they've probably read the source code to various titles from id Software [1]?
    [0] https://twitter.com/therealcli...
    [1] https://github.com/id-Software

    1. Re:Game development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Why does the game community not understand the benefits of Free and Open Source software?
      Because we're not stupid.

      >even though they've probably read the source code to various titles from id Software?
      Carmack is a stud for sure but there's more than one way to write a 3d engine.

    2. Re:Game development by wangstabill · · Score: 1

      If you're not stupid, can you post an intelligent response to why Free and Open Source Software is not beneficial?

    3. Re:Game development by tepples · · Score: 1

      You mean the same Id Software who issued a cease-and-desist to Mozilla? Besides, Id Software has historically waited around five years after first publication of a game to distribute the source code of its engine as free software.

    4. Re:Game development by tepples · · Score: 1

      If you're not stupid, can you post an intelligent response to why Free and Open Source Software is not beneficial?

      Alexey Pajitnov, creator of Tetris, has explained why he thinks free software destroys the market.

    5. Re:Game development by wangstabill · · Score: 1

      Id Software did not issue that cease and desist, ZeniMax did. And that's over copyright. Mozilla enforces it's copyright over Firefox, that doesn't mean Firefox isn't FOSS. If the five years figure is accurate, it is somewhat disappointing, but also understandable to prevent competition. To me, released 5 years later is better than never.

    6. Re:Game development by wangstabill · · Score: 1

      I mean, yes that's my point. Game developers, including Mr. Pajitnov, think they'll go hungry if even one smidgen of their code is open source or they contribute back upstream.

  74. Where does 'free' end? by darronb · · Score: 1

    Why only software? (or hardware) Why not building architecture, art design, books, the complete design of say your car or an airplane? Isn't that the same? Wouldn't "society" benefit in similar ways if EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT made by man was open for everyone to copy and modify as they wanted?

    Where does this not just turn into flat out socialism? Now, I'm not a knee-jerk "socialism is bad" type... but I don't think it's naturally better or 'more ethical'.

    You might say "we've never seen quite my kind of socialism", but EVERYONE says that about their perfect form of society.

    Why not everything? Why just the fruits of my labor, as a software developer?

    As far as I can tell, you're essentially demanding that I 'take one for the team'... calling me unethical if I don't.

    1. Re:Where does 'free' end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The FSF is not against selling software for whatever amount you can.

    2. Re:Where does 'free' end? by darronb · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are... just indirectly. That's kind of like saying I'm free to charge whatever I want at our cookie stand.... only my super secret grandma recipe has to be shared with all the other cookie stands. Now, you've forced grandma to give up her family secret and now we as a family have lost value. We can't charge $5 a cookie for the best-cookie-ever, only $0.50 because Timmy next door is selling our recipe too. Society gains, maybe... at our expense.

      So far, nobody's coming after Grandma's recipes... but why not? You're coming after mine (software)

      The effort I put into a work has value, and it is not unethical to charge you a fee if you want to benefit from my work by using it. Sure, maybe someday you want to use my printer with some new OS you're playing with and you can't and that pisses you off... but I don't see why that's much different than saying that by buying a printer you should have the rights to the entire design and be legally able to build your own and sell them. Sorry... that wouldn't work, would it?

      By saying non-free software is unethical... he's saying the novel, unique parts of what make my work valuable should be freely given away to everyone to copy and use as they want... just like Grandma's cookie recipe.

    3. Re:Where does 'free' end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go read the FAQ at fsf.org, and get educated.

      He is absolutely not against making money with software.

      The fact that free software is a mulit-billion dollar industry shows that you are wrong.

      The fact that tens of thousands of programmers get paid to exclusively write free software shows that you are wrong.

      Their is nothing novel or unique in the software that you write. If you actually believe that, you are incredibly uneducated.

  75. Re:Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot the rhinos :D

  76. Free software lagging behind? by godrik · · Score: 1

    Dear RMS,

    First of all, thank for your contributions to the world of software and agreeing on making that interview.

    In the world of software, I am often under the impression that the "proprietary" world develop the game-changers and that the free software follows. Because of that lag, free software appears to always be in position where it has to adapt to the world around it, which diverts lots of efforts or causes lots of frustration. The only parts where free software appears to pioneer is the infrastructure kind of software. Do you have a similar impression? What are your suggestion to try to bring free software to a leadership position?

    Erik

  77. Re:Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait, wait....are we talking about Stallman or Jobs?

  78. Mister Stallman by Kremmy · · Score: 3

    While I agree with your mission and am a fan of the work you have done, I can't help but feel you've managed to shoot yourself in the foot with how you've handled your beliefs. I recently commented about how I felt your insistence of free software purity has made it so your organization was unable to appropriately evolve with the technological environment. GNU/Hurd is a failure. I see Apple and Microsoft trying their damnedest to bring us back into the walled garden world of proprietary UNIX, without the benefits of UNIX. I see Unity, I see Metro, I see the app store commercialization of the package manager, I see you calling LLVM a tragedy. What I don't see is you and your organization having done the footwork necessary to make it so we have a choice. Those of us who value our computing freedom, I feel, have been let down by the lack of a reasonable solution from GNU. My assertion is that in 2014, the GNU Free Software Foundation has failed to provide us an 'out' from proprietary computing platforms.

    My question is thus: What do you feel can be done to allow yourself and the Free Software Foundation to move forward and solve this problem of failure?

    1. Re:Mister Stallman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^^^^ this

    2. Re:Mister Stallman by Burz · · Score: 1

      GNU actually did the footwork with Hurd, and I've seen people run Hurd-based stuff off and on since the 90s. It just didn't catch on, I think because people were afraid of sluggish performance from a microkernel.

      Nowadays, VMs are almost mandatory for secure environments so an even higher performance penalty is paid.

  79. Do you forsee a viable Free Car OS? by Medievalist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Automobile user interfaces have become increasingly complex and de-standardized as computerization reaches into the driver's seat. The major vendors don't seem to care about possible legal liabilities of designing inherently dangerous UIs.

    Google has enticed Honda, GM and Audi to join the Open Automotive Alliance, but that project seems more oriented towards selling android and nVidia products than providing an objectively better car OS.

    Do you see a future where a real Free (or at least Open Source) car operating system is a reality, or do you think the car makers will just continue to create unsafe and unstandardized vehicle UIs indefinitely?

  80. Have you ever thought of changing your name? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Have you ever thought of changing your name?

    For example to Egon?

    (what, you said "any question" ...)

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  81. An ignoramus asks... by TDyl · · Score: 1

    what, Mr RMS, in your office/home is your preferred OS and software collection? (And yes, I'm waiting for the down votes.)

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    1. Re:An ignoramus asks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually this is the start of a great question...

      Mr. RMS how diligent are you in your day to day activities of only supporting "free" solutions?
      Do you only use "free" software?
      Do you only use "free" hardware?
      For non-computing related items, do you make sure all design, development and manufacturing aspects use "free" tools.

  82. Time to change conventions in articles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Currently many articles in academia are locked in proprietary journals whose access costs restrict readership unnecessarily (and immorally). The tradition in academia is that one should cite original sources, even those bound in proprietary journals, with the consequence that as an author following this practice one is enabling this unethical situation. What do you think of the idea of creating a new paradigm in which a new class of articles only allows citations to sources that are free? In this way authors who wished their work to be cited would have to take responsability for where they published it and the world could begin to move out of the current Dark Ages in which advances in technology have rendered traditional practices no longer ethical.

  83. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you feel about the Slashdot Beta?

  84. Re:My Question by davester666 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Toejam

    Condiment, topping or main ingredient?

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  85. arms reach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you specify exactly what arms reach means?

    GPLv2 and the FAQ leave it woefully unexplained.

  86. Photo with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi, I heard you are charging money when people want to take a picture with you. Is that true? And why?

  87. LLVM by vilanye · · Score: 2

    Given that compilers are something that very few programmers can realistically work on, why is your objection to LLVM so strong?

    Its licensing also means that the GNU compiler projects can use whatever advancements LLVM makes freely.

  88. Gaining or Losing fans.. by sqorbit · · Score: 1

    One could say that Linux has gained popularity but many of the distros do not follow your idea of free software. Since 1984 when you began, do you feel the free software movement has gained or losing fans and supporters?

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  89. Re:Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His opinions on those things are a lot more insightful and a lot less emotion-driven than most people's half-baked, freedom-hating opinions.

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  90. systemd by zdzichu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How do you find systemd/linux? Systemd's success could decrease relevance of Hurd, as systemd is Linux only.

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    1. Re:systemd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The architectual capabilities of systemd are second class compared to GNU Mach and the Hurd servers. If there is some software with a dependency for systemd fucntions, it should be easy enough to replicate that function into a Mach server program with a trivial amount of effort.

  91. He's a strange person allright by Bengie · · Score: 1

    He's trying to enforce his Utopian dream via laws with which he disagrees. Copyright tells people who they can/can't copy information, yet he uses those laws to make sure people can't continue to copy information. It just seems so contradictory and idealistic.

    1. Re:He's a strange person allright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      make sure people can continue

  92. What is your favorite non-free software by postmortem · · Score: 2

    and when we are already there, favorite version of Windows?

  93. Mixed GPL/BSD license by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you support a license model (called X for discussion purposes) that is a "best of both worlds" mixture? The conditions would look something like:

    "Any software (the Product) built using code licensed under X (the Library) must release part of its own code, which may consist of improvements to the Library, original parts of the Product, or any combination of the two, under license X; furthermore, the total `value` or `usefulness` of the improvements/new code which are release under X must match, if not exceed, the `value` or `usefulness` of the Library to the Product. If the entire `value` of the Product is not sufficient in this regard, the Product must be released entirely under license X."

    Basically, it perpetuates the creation of free software.

  94. ease of use. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are best known for working on software that is horrifically difficult to use, like emacs. As one of the great unwashed with an abysmal short term memory, If you wanted to make gnu/linux become more popular among the uneducated you could make a point of including menus or signposts (like how pico or mp, minimum profit text editor is designed). Will you give me your word that you try and show compassion to those like myself?

  95. Projects not being done by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ignoring preference of open source license for a minute, the open source landscape has lots of software to satisfy a wide range of users.

    What piece of software is still sorely missing from the open source landscape that isn't yet being seriously attempted by any project?

    Short version; what open source projects still need to be started?

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    1. Re:Projects not being done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/
      PS. Stallman doesn't want to be associated with the open source movement. Open source is the ideal that opposes the political ideas of free software and instead, promotes the practical benefits of free software while avoiding the political ideas.

  96. Critical areas of development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What would you say is the most important single area of software (e.g. web servers, operating systems, games, etc) to focus on bringing free software to, in order to further the overall movement?

    Captcha: ascender

  97. Culinary question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What wine would you suggest to pair with toe cheese?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

  98. nature vs nuture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Were you born a natural dick or did something happen to you as a kid to make you one?

  99. Birth of the Hurd by Cronopios · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Peter H. Salus, in his book `The Daemon, the GNU and the Penguin' quotes Thomas Bushnell (the initial Hurd architect) as saying:

    My first choice was to take the BSD 4.4-Lite release and make a kernel. I knew the code, I knew how to do it. It is now perfectly obvious to me that this would have succeeded splendidly and the world would be a very different place today.
    RMS wanted to work together with people from Berkeley on such an effort. Some of them were interested, but some seem to have been deliberately dragging their feet: and the reason now seems to be that they had the goal of spinning off BSDI. A GNU based on 4.4-Lite would undercut BSDI.
    So RMS said to himself, "Mach is a working kernel, 4.4-Lite is only partial, we will go with Mach." It was a decision which I strongly opposed. But ultimately it was not my decision to make, and I made the best go I could at working with Mach and doing something new from that standpoint.
    This was all way before Linux; we're talking 1991 or so.

    In hindsight, do you regret that decision, or are you happy about Linux being the usual kernel in GNU systems (and the subsequent misnaming)?

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    1. Re:Birth of the Hurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still with the name thing?

      Get. The. Fuck. Over. It.

    2. Re:Birth of the Hurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm assuming that was directed at RMS, and I entirely agree!

    3. Re:Birth of the Hurd by Cronopios · · Score: 1

      Furthermore:
      Have you considered restarting the Hurd again, using Minix 3 instead of Mach?

      MINIX 3 is a free (BSD license) operating system designed to be highly reliable, flexible, and secure. It is based on a tiny microkernel running in kernel mode with the rest of the operating system running as a collection of isolated, protected, processes in user mode. It is POSIX compliant and can run bash, emacs, gcc, gdb, the X Window System, etc.

      The Debian project showed that it's possible to have a GNU system on top of the FreeBSD kernel. Would producing a GNU/kMinix system be more realistic than the Hurd becoming a production-ready, superior kernel?

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  100. I don't want my free software to be used for evil. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Mr. Stallman. I would like to release software which I have written for others to benefit from. However I am worried that some will use it in ways that I would consider immoral, like killing innocent civilians or advertising cigarettes. Is there way to craft a license that would realistically work to prevent my software from being used in such a way? We put a lot of work and made many personal sacrifices to produce the software. We would love others to benefit from it, but don't want it to be used for evil. It's a serious question to me and I would love your feedback and insight into this problem. Can we craft a license that could help us with this problem? Why or why not?

  101. Re:Denommus by PenguSven · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Kiddie fucking, child porn and fucking apes and dolphins. That's insightful?

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  102. FOSS by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    Do you object to the use of the term 'Free/Open Source Software' (FOSS)?

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  103. Old Unix is free by Cronopios · · Score: 2

    Caldera open sourced Ancient Unices 12 years ago: http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Ca...

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  104. Irony and Assange by ikhider · · Score: 1

    Dear RMS, Assange was quoted as saying 'banish all Stallmanist thought' while developing for NetBSD, yet according to your website, you remain one of his defenders. Do you not find that a little ironic? Good sportsmanship!

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    1. Re:Irony and Assange by jbn-o · · Score: 1

      If that's the case (no source is provided) that would indeed suggest better things about Stallman than Assange. Something to remember the next time someone tries to downplay software freedom by pointing out how uncomfortable they are with Stallman. What is the source for this?

    2. Re:Irony and Assange by ikhider · · Score: 1

      Look up something called "netbsd' and you will find Assange's comments on the Stallman.

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  105. Why? by Bizzeh · · Score: 1

    You claim to be this morally upstanding guy who "fights the man" and lives a "bohemian lifestyle". Why are you of such a large physical dimension (fat)?

  106. Telegram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is your opinion on Telegram? Do you think FOSS will finally invade social networking?

  107. Slashdot Beta? by d33tah · · Score: 1, Troll

    What do you think about Slashdot's Beta?

    1. Re:Slashdot Beta? by kobach · · Score: 0

      COMPLETE shit, soylentnews.org is WAY better

    2. Re:Slashdot Beta? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you think about these sites?

  108. free software into law? by paulpach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You argue that it is unethical for someone to distribute software in a way that limits any one of the 4 freedoms to users.

    If you had the option, would you make it illegal to do so?

    In other words, if you had the option would you make it so that software developers were forced by law to use a free software license? or would you leave the option to the developers and try to convince them (without coercion) that it is the right thing to do?

    1. Re:free software into law? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1, Informative

      Stallman has already advocated coercion: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy...

    2. Re:free software into law? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see any mention of use of law/force in the linked statement. It's asking for cooperation.

    3. Re:free software into law? by paulpach · · Score: 2

      Stallman has already advocated coercion: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy...

      Thank you for the article, but it does not really address my question.

      In that article he tries to convince people to chose GPL over LGPL for libraries. At most, the consequence here is that someone is unable to use the library in question because he does not agree with the terms.

      What I am asking is different: I would like to know if he would make it a crime to use a proprietary license.

    4. Re:free software into law? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      At most, the consequence here is that someone is unable to use the library in question because he does not agree with the terms.

      I've acquired all Internet service providers in the US Northeastern region. At most, the consequence here is that someone is unable to get on the Internet because he doesn't agree with the terms. He is, of course, free to bulk purchase an OC48 at $40,000/mo from a tier 1 provider and start his own ISP.

      In the article, Stallman is trying to convince people that libraries should be GPL so that, eventually, it becomes prohibitively expensive to make useful software without making said software GPL. Imagine if the entire Windows API core library set was GPL. You can either A) create Wine; or B) make your app GPL.

      Compare as well to food freedom: high fructose corn syrup is in damn near everything, and all milk in the US is pasteaurized. I havea $50,000 house. I could buy a $400,000 house on 10 acres of land and get/feed/annually breed a cow and milk said cow, or I could buy pasteurized milk.

      That's Stallman freedom: If you're incredibly rich, you're free.

    5. Re:free software into law? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stallman has answered this already. He basically said that it should not be a crime because society at large would not support it.

  109. TOECDN - The Open Edge Content Delivery Network by fredan · · Score: 1

    What do you think of The Open Edge Content Delivery Network as a concept?

    http://www.toecdn.org/

    1. Re:TOECDN - The Open Edge Content Delivery Network by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anything that begins with "toe" must be tasty. Yum!

  110. On "Free Software" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've often thought the term "Free Software" was a classic bait-and-switch. When most people first hear that they think of no-cost software and are attracted to that. Then, as they learn more about it they get told, "No, it's really about freedom - *that's* the important part of what were doing."

    The popularization of this misleading term has caused a lot of confusion, leading to other terms to clarify various similar or different categories of software, including "libre software", "freeware", and even "open source".

    Do you now regret having originally chosen the term "Free Software" for the confusion it has caused? Or, do you think that your bait-and-switch tactic has been instrumental in the success of your movement, thereby making whatever confusion resulting from this term worthwhile?

  111. Support for free software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In your view, which is more important; supporting/contributing to "free" software or NOT supporting/contributing to proprietary software?

    As a followup, if the best tool for the job is proprietary and the "free" alternatives have no chance of meeting the needs(at least in the given time constraints) do you support people pirating the proprietary tool to avoid providing funding to the company?

  112. Rumors regarding rib removal surgery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Stallman. Is it it true that you have had several ribs removed so that you may more easily eat your own toejam?

  113. Medium of exchange by smartr · · Score: 1

    rms, I recently read you were interested in developments for anonymized digital currency. Currency in its current form is the primary rational for restricting the sharing of information. All currencies I am aware of are based on the currency being scarce, which encourages artificial scarcity of information. Have you seen any attempts at creating digital currencies that are not scarce, but reflect value based on usage and distribution? Search engine tracks ratings of websites. Users get more individual value out of certain information. Perhaps this is all just a pipe dream, but philosophically speaking, what do you think about creating a better carrot as opposed to relying on sticks like the law?

  114. Gnu Free Documentation Licence by ISayWeOnlyToBePolite · · Score: 2

    The Gnu Free Documentation Licence (GFDL) has not been embraced with nearly as much love as the GPL and numerous issues have been raised:

    *Non compability with GPL (both ways).
    *Non-freeness (as deemed by Debian) of invariant sections.
    *Cumersomeness of having to print the full licence when distributing physical printouts.
    Etc.

    Wikipedia for example does not accept contributions licenced under the GFDL only.

    What do you see as a way forward in adressing the issues raised regarding the GFDL?

    1. Re:Gnu Free Documentation Licence by nullchar · · Score: 1

      Follow-up: Are any Creative Commons (CC) licenses an answer to the GFDL issues illustrated above?

  115. Do you have any tips on beard maintenance? by atari2600a · · Score: 2

    Mine grows with some bald spots & I want to obtain neckbeard status.

  116. on this topic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On this topic, what's his take on the Blackphone? Or even more open, Replicant, would a cellphone running Replicant be something suitable for him, or is he waiting for something else?

    1. Re:on this topic. by nullchar · · Score: 1

      Or even Firefox OS?

      Is it even possible to avoid firmware blobs?

  117. Terms of Endearment by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    If, as you say, "Open source is a development methodology; free software is a social movement." in your article: Why Open Source Misses the Point of Free Software, why do you advocate not using the term 'open source', particularly if it is being used in a technical/development methodology context only?

    --

    Lodragan Draoidh
    The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
  118. Re:Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 0

    Sure, why not? Most people just have a knee-jerk reaction against these things because they're irrational and despise individual liberties. At this point, I do not believe that you're any different, which leads me to question why you're on Slashdot.

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
  119. Basic Copy-Left Philosophy by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 0

    I have always wondered about the large logical disconnect in the copyleft argument. My understanding is that the GNU GPL has always been touted as "Guaranteeing Your Freedom(TM)", yet there are blog posts explaining that the purpose of the GPL is to force others to provide their software under GPL terms.

    My issue is thus: How do you reconcile that "Freedom" means "Forcing everyone to give everyone else free access to the products of their labor"? I feel that the overreaching goals, as expressed, are for "Free Software" to gain such a critical mass that it is impossible to provide "Software" without a prohibitive amount of effort, unless you provide that software under the specific licensing terms everyone else has forced upon you. In other words: the final goal is that I may not provide my software as a closed-source, licensed, non-GPL binary unless I write an entire operating system and supporting libraries, as all supporting libraries are GPL and force me to GPL my code or not produce code at all.

    Is that not the opposite of freedom? That is, are you not technically free to write your own Microsoft Windows, since Microsoft will not give it to you; and in the same way, in the ideal GNU world, you are technically free to write your own Readline and LIBC and Libgtk and QT and audio libraries and small linker bits and compiler tool chain, since using any of the existing means using GPL software and releasing your software under GPL in turn?

    1. Re:Basic Copy-Left Philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My issue is thus: How do you reconcile that "Freedom" means "Forcing everyone to give everyone else free access to the products of their labor"?

      How do you reconcile that other people's "freedom" means hiding away the source code and not providing users with the four freedoms, while also imposing draconian restrictions?

      Please realize that there are multiple types of freedom, and the GPL guarantees certain freedoms that some people believe are important. These freedoms certainly benefit me as a user.

    2. Re:Basic Copy-Left Philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is this semantic identification of Freedom with their side. The FSF doesn't just say they value this freedom over others, they actually call their competitors unfree. Stallman has called it "user-subjugating software". This is a one-dimensional view of freedom.

      Frankly it's unnecessary. It distracts *both* sides to argue about what is "Free" and what is not. Copyleft software has certain properties you may or may not want.

      However, the FSF makes the argument that copyleft is an ethical imperative, hence the framing of the issue.

  120. Socialised Health Care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This question does not address technology, or copyright, or licensing.

    In 2000, I had the pleasure of hosting you to deliver a talk on the "Do's and Don'ts" of using free software in commercial products at Teradyne, in Deerfield, IL. Over lunch we had the opportunity to discuss social issues and politely disagreed about whether medical care should be socialized.

    Given the current administration's efforts regarding the Affordable Care Act, do you think it is a move in the right direction, or not?"

  121. Do you do even lift? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey bro, do you even lift?

  122. New hacker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi Mr. Stallman.

    I'm a yound aspiring hacker that wants to get into free software. Which projects do you see most interesting for someone like me to work on?

  123. Wow such an insightful question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you also going to ask him what color is the sky?

    1. Re:Wow such an insightful question by ynp7 · · Score: 1

      Of course not, it's obviously "clear" color.

  124. Have you tried modern computing paridigms? by Irick · · Score: 2

    I've often heard it levied that some of the FSF's goals are a bit out of touch, and it's often been speculated that one of the root causes may be inexperience with the modern computer interface. Reading over even how you search for web pages, the pipeline is very unix but it would be nearly entirely alien to a modern computer user.

    Do you think there is any value in trying to switch paradigms for a while?
    (please disregard any loaded language that may have slipped through, i'm tired, but this question has been eating at the back of my head for a while)

  125. ubicity creator: ditched in spite of or b/c FOSS by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    At the institution where I currently work, AIT / Austrian Institute of Technology, in 2013 I started ( believe it or not ) the first fully-FOSS project in the 45+ year history of the institute: ubicity, a social media aggregator. Although senior management applauded the initiative in the beginning, and although the thing was nothing short of a sheer success, fear crept up soon after: people did not know how to deal with it, especially not the many elder guys ( "elder" here meaning: "close to retirement and not willing to learn anymore" ). Result: in spite of resounding success, my contract got terminated. I do not mourn about it, having found a very nice contract through which I can further develop ubicity.

    Question: have you seen this pattern before, and how do you interpret it ?

    --
    Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
  126. MIT-like licenses by Daniel+Hoffmann · · Score: 1

    Are MIT-like licenses hurting more than helping the free software movement? While I agree that GPL is better for the end user, the existence of MIT-like licenses did increase the adoption of open source software by a large amount. But the way that some big players in the field play with open source licenses discuss me (like android and its closed-source ASOP).

  127. Forbidding/prohibiting user subjugation is fine. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    The GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) is a strongly copylefted Free Software license which uses the word "prohibit" for multiple things. I'd hardly think an organization would put such language in their license if they objected to the use of the words as you think they do.

    For example, Section 2 of the GNU GPL version 3 does what it can to clearly prohibits proprietarization: (emphasis mine)

    You may make, run and propagate covered works that you do not convey, without conditions so long as your license otherwise remains in force. You may convey covered works to others for the sole purpose of having them make modifications exclusively for you, or provide you with facilities for running those works, provided that you comply with the terms of this License in conveying all material for which you do not control copyright. Those thus making or running the covered works for you must do so exclusively on your behalf, under your direction and control, on terms that prohibit them from making any copies of your copyrighted material outside their relationship with you.

    This prohibition is a good thing because proprietary software subjugates the user to the developer's control; that's why proprietary software is developed and distributed. Proprietary software is often malware and thus a mechanism for spying on the user, removing programs the user wants to keep installed, and more anti-freedom activities that deny users complete control over their computer. This all happens to any user regardless of how skilled they are with computing, or how willing they are to take advantage of their software freedom.

    Section 3 of the GNU GPL version 3 prevents conveyers from exercising legal power to forbid circumvention of technical measures:

    When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to forbid circumvention of technological measures to the extent such circumvention is effected by exercising rights under this License with respect to the covered work, and you disclaim any intention to limit operation or modification of the work as a means of enforcing, against the work's users, your or third parties' legal rights to forbid circumvention of technological measures.

    Section 7c of the GNU GPL version 3 "prohibits" misrepresenting material from upstream conveyed copies ("Prohibiting misrepresentation of the origin of that material, or requiring that modified versions of such material be marked in reasonable ways as different from the original version").

    Section 11 of the GNU GPL version 3 includes a prohibition to make sure certain patents don't lock users out of exercising the freedoms the license grants.

    The details matter: To understand what's going on you have to understand what is being forbidden and prohibited, why these allowances and restrictions are necessary, which users are affected, and how and then evaluate if those causes and remedies are right and proper.

  128. Preferred Nomenclature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux?

    1. Re:Preferred Nomenclature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux + GNU.

  129. Restrictions on use are non-free. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    The FSF's comments on the Hacktivismo Enhanced-Source Software License Agreement (HESSLA) are informative here. HESSLA:

    tries to put restrictions of ethical conduct on use and modification of the software. Because it restricts what jobs people can use the software for, and restricts in substantive ways what jobs modified versions of the program can do, it is not a free software license. The ironic result is that the community of people most likely to feel sympathy for the goals of the HESSLA cannot contribute to HESSLA-covered software without violating its principles.

    This issue apparently comes up often enough and is important enough where the FSF has published an essay on why programs must not limit the freedom to run them which is also linked to the aforementioned HESSLA commentary.

    Considering the FSF's document pointed to above dates back multiple years, I'd say RMS has long answered your question.

  130. The Tree-hugging Hippie License version 1.0 by Misagon · · Score: 1

    If I were to publish my own software using a license that was like the GPL v3 except for a clause that said "This software may not be used by the military, the police or by any paramilitary or intelligence organisation, including the NSA", would that be a bad thing? If so, how and why?

    (The subject line is just a joke. I'm a vegetarian and climate activist in real life and have been called "tree-hugging hippie" on more than one occasion.)

    --
    "We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
  131. Why did you decide to record an album... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...in a communist country where the entire populace is deprived of basic human rights and people are tortured by the government at will?

  132. Dear Mr. Stallman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you help me find a girlfriend?

  133. World benevolent dictator by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    If you were made ruler of the entire earth, what would be top on your list of things to change?

    --
    You're a temporary arrangement of matter sliding towards oblivion in a cold, uncaring universe
  134. Blackphone? by Misagon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You (RMS) have said on numerous occasions that you don't use a cell phone because of privacy issues - that it can be used as a tracking device and underhandedly, for spying on its user.

    What do you think of the "security-oriented" Blackphone? Secure enough for RMS?

    --
    "We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
    1. Re:Blackphone? by kthreadd · · Score: 1

      It's not just the phone itself, it's the radio that is usually running its own firmware. It can technically spy on you even if the computer part of the phone is turned off.

  135. Why not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not Zoidberg?

  136. Future directions for evolution of the GPL? by daboochmeister · · Score: 1

    What changes do you see becoming important or necessary in the GPL, if any? What future evolution of the GPL do you anticipate occurring, beyond v3?

    --
    "Ahh! I see you're in that indeterminate Schrodinger state where - oh, uh ... never mind." Dave Bucci
  137. GPL focuses on user's rights as should we all. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    No, the GNU GPL focuses on the rights of the user. Developers and distributors (now "conveyors" in GPLv3) are restricted from exercising powers governments grant them in favor of letting users exercise their rights granted under the GPL (including section 3 aptly named "Protecting Users' Legal Rights From Anti-Circumvention Law", exercising patent powers as described in section 11, and various freedoms and responsibilites for conveying copies in sections 4 through 6).

    Perhaps you are confusing the free software movement with the younger open source movement which does frame the issues it addresses in terms of a developmental methodology. The two movements aren't the same and the two movements don't always agree—sometimes reaching radically different results like when faced with powerful, reliable proprietary software.

    Stallman has long stated that it is unethical to hold power over the user, and that proprietary (nonfree) software (no matter its purpose) subjugates the user to the developer's control. The free software definition itself says " The nonfree program controls the users, and the developer controls the program; this makes the program an instrument of unjust power.". As we learn of ever increasing uses of this power (many stories carried on /., the ongoing NSA scandal) we learn that software freedom is more important than ever before. Looking at these issues simply as a developmental methodology (throwing out ethical consideration as the open source movement is designed to do) simply won't fix the problem. There are other related issues involved as well, and Stallman has addressed them for years in talks. I recommend any of his talks about "A Free Digital Society". He is, as usual, way ahead of the corporate press and their repeaters on /. regarding these issues.

    1. Re:GPL focuses on user's rights as should we all. by Creepy · · Score: 1

      Free software makes sense if someone is paying you to develop the hardware the software runs on and you can make it proprietary to the hardware, but once you take away the hardware, how do software developers get paid? In the RMS model, the hardware providers pay for software development, but for most real world software houses, this doesn't happen anymore. The next level down would be customers pay for software development, but my experience is customers don't know what they want until they have it.

      As a compromise, the company I work for publishes all of our data formats (at least in my division) and nearly everything exports to XML. That means competitors and free software can create their own implementation, and people have. I even know of some GPL3 implementations of parts of our software. They're pretty crappy and very buggy, but they're free. We also use software like Solr and pay for Solr support, which shows non commercial vendors and commercial vendors can coexist - but we could never do this with GPL.

    2. Re:GPL focuses on user's rights as should we all. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

      for most real world software houses, this doesn't happen anymore

      Source? Evidence? Cygnus didn't seem to have trouble finding customers for GCC support.

      As a compromise, the company I work for publishes all of our data formats (at least in my division) and nearly everything exports to XML. That means competitors and free software can create their own implementation, and people have. [...]

      I don't know if that's supposed to mean the program is free software or not. If the software is nonfree, then there's no compromise that is a substitute for software freedom. Getting data out of the program won't give users an idea of what's going on when the program runs. If the program is nonfree, malware may be running. Or maybe features the users want aren't implementable by people they trust.

  138. Re: Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 1

    Fucking children is not about personal liberties.

    Sure it is. Whether rape occurred should be determined on an individual basis. The problem is that you're so emotional, irrational, and relying on "protect the children" instincts that you can't see that this is not how our justice system works in a grand majority of other cases. Not really a surprise.

    Again, the real question is, what are you "for the children" people doing on Slashdot?

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
  139. Open hardware by Burz · · Score: 1

    Do you see more interest in open hardware now that large corporations have been shown to secretly cooperate with mass surveillance? Do you think that projects like Fairphone and Qubes OS will lead to a trend of pushing openness down through the software stack and into the hardware?

  140. copyright assignment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is your attitude toward copyright assignment practice in Free Software world. Copyright assignment was considered as bad aspect in recent upstart vs systemd debate. Is it so? It makes simpler to change license of project to non-free. Is it a treat to freedom of software?

    I know that some FSF projects (like GCC) use copyright assignment for FSF. Can it happen that 100 years later the management of FSF will change license of FSF projects to proprietary?

    1. Re:copyright assignment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/treat/threat/

      sorry.

  141. Right to Read story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you feel about so accurately predicting the future in your Right to Read story ?

  142. question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm guessing you got a lot of pussy in the 70s and maybe even into the early 80s. Do you still get a lot of snatch? More than Eric Raymond? I know they said only one question per post, but have you and ESR ever double-teamed a chick? RMS + ESR = Messr. Coincidence?

  143. Re: Denommus by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 2

    Well I think for child porn the other side of it is that having the pictures is criminalized even if they can't prove you did the act, know the person that did, that it wasn't consenting, that you were aware at the time of download that it was going to be someone underage you got or just that "young girls" means to you first year university students. The actual criminal assault | guilty mind part of the case isn't proven just the position of evidence that someone somewhere might have done something naughty (assuming it is illegal where they did it) is enough. Very few other areas of the legal system are so clearly thought crimes.

  144. Free Software adoption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What can we (those who share ideals of GNU) do to boost adoption of Free Software. What can hinder the adoption of Free Software and what is the biggest threat to Free Software?

  145. RMS has been quite clear on his lines for years. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    Stallman has said in numerous talks that he doesn't own a cell phone because not only due to lack of respect for his software freedom but also because they are (more properly identified as) trackers. He rightly objects to handing over data to track his location, as is part of a cell phone's normal operation. As with so many of these issues, his precience in looking out for his own privacy predates the headlines—Jeremy Scahill and Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept report that the NSA has been using SIM cards (commonly used with cell phones) tracking data to target drone attacks: "What's more, he adds, the NSA often locates drone targets by analyzing the activity of a SIM card, rather than the actual content of the calls. Based on his experience, he has come to believe that the drone program amounts to little more than death by unreliable metadata.".

    As for "openness of source", you'd do well to read the summary /. provided on this story and the links contained therein. One of those links pointed you to a long-published article about how Stallman is not a spokesperson for "open source" and he has pointed out significant differences between his older movement—the free software movement—and the younger open source movement which focuses on development methodology (and is therefore willing to install and recommend nonfree software). That newer essay updates an older essay which has been published in print as well as online.

    Stallman has also long pointed out that code in unchangeable hardware (code in ROM, for example) is equivalent to hardware in that the user and the developer are facing the same hurdles to modify that code. So I'd imagine that a toaster with code in ROM would be a candidate toaster for him to own. But so many devices these days have updateable code. If the code can be changed the user and developer might not be on an equal footing with regards to who is allowed to change that code (free software grants you the freedoms nonfree software does not grant). Thus this more common occurrence raises all the issues he's been talking about, writing/publishing software for, and organizing against for decades.

  146. Did you see the Respects Your Freedom campaign? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    I imagine the FSF doesn't have the resources to manufacture and distribute their own hardware, and it is still true that hardware is manufactured not copied. But perhaps you were not aware that the FSF runs the "Respects Your Freedom" campaign which currently endorses the Gluglug X60 laptop computer since December 18th, 2013 along with a 3D printer and a couple of wireless adapters one can connect to a computer via USB.

  147. Slashdot and soylentnews.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you think slashdot beta is a complete crap and soylentnews.org is a way to go?

  148. Open ended ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do the questions have to be open ended ?

  149. Re: Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking children is not about personal liberties.

    Just to be clear, we're talking about _underage_ children now, right? I mean over here it's perfectly legal to have sex with a child as long as he or she is at least 15 years old.

  150. abrasiveness is unbecoming by dirtyhippie · · Score: 1

    techies are abrasive. i am abrasive. you are abrasive. but it just doesn't work for the head of the FSF to be abrasive to the point of rudeness. will you please step aside and let someone who isn't afraid to play nice take the helm, or at least handle the PR-type functions of your position? a LOT more good could be done this way.

  151. Septic Tank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

  152. 'it's not a goat's head' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    remember that 'conversation' prof.? you helped me out,, thanks

    Slashdot only allows......

  153. GitHub by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's your opinion about GitHub and that more and more free software development is moving there?

  154. University and Free Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am currently studying a degree in Computer Science, at a UK university, which is more like a Microsoft training course. I have thought about forming a Free Software Society at my university to help spread the philosophy and values of free software, and to promote the use of GNU/Linux. However, when I speak to my fellow students they don't understand or are not familiar with these ideas, and they don't seem to care, and instead value short term convienience over freedom. How can I best promote free software in my university and to my fellow students and friends, especially those who seem oblivious to the ideas of freedom, both in software and society?

    P.S. I currently only use free software on my own computers (Trisquel & gNewSense), but I am forced to submit my code as a Visual Studio solution, which I do after I have implemented on my own machines.

  155. Free Firmware Movement by psydeshow · · Score: 1

    It has become increasingly difficult to purchase any general computing hardware that does not rely on proprietary software. Even if one installs a Free OS with 100% Free drivers, there is likely to be proprietary firmware all over the place: keyboard controller, network card, usb controller, video card, etc. -- that the OS doesn't have control over and the end user doesn't know about. To the best of my knowledge, there is no easy way to discover, verify, and manage these firmwares over time. And yet, there they are, just waiting to be exploited.

    Do you know anyone who is working on this problem? How can we trust our computers when we have no idea what is lurking under the hood? Why isn't there a GNU Firmware tool that can ferret these things out and at least checksum them so that we can know if they've been tampered with, and/or replace them with Free editions?

  156. Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What distribution do you use, and why?

  157. Source Code vs Binary vs Service - Transparency? by psydeshow · · Score: 1

    I write Free Software (GPLv3), and also open source software (Apache license) that implements various web services.

    The servers where I deploy the software run vanilla Debian with no non-free packages. As a responsible developer and web host, I make all of the source code available to my customers and others.

    The question is, how can my customers know that the code on my servers was actually built from the source code that I publish? Short of telling them to build it themselves on their own server, is there any way to guarantee that when they log into one of my web applications, they are using the same code that I have published?

    I was intrigued on using a Chomebook for the first time that Google had managed to do something like this -- it wouldn't boot unless the kernel (and presumably all other software) was signed by Google. Do you know of any toolchains that would allow us to apply this to servers, and also make the signature and verification process transparent to end users of a service? Otherwise, how can we possibly trust any online service provider?

  158. Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I honestly don't care. But he is not "trying to sell his latest crappy software".

  159. Where is the freedom for the .EH domain? by kazemat · · Score: 1

    The .eh domain is reserved for Western Sahara. Unfortunately, Western Sahara is a non-self governing territory according to the United Nations. It is partly occupied by domainholders of .MA, Morocco. And they don't want to share. What can we do to liberate .EH?

  160. GNU HURD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looking back now, would you have liked to have focused more on the HURD before the Linux kernel was released so you were more likely to create a complete GNU OS?

  161. Isn't it your job to make your business plan? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    There are some confusions in what you're asking. It isn't Stallman or the FSF's job to supply anyone with a business model. It's the FSF's job to lay out the ethical argument to defend their case that nonfree software is unjust and that we all deserve software freedom. Put differently, and not to equate nonfree software with slavery (slavery is more oppressive than nonfree software), but ethical arguments against slavery don't have an obligation to provide alternative labor sources to exploit. Ethical arguments against slavery have to lay out why people should be treated with human dignity as equals and not as slaves. With that, there are some approaches you should consider:

    1. You can learn to be more charismatic, if you think it necessary, but plenty of speakers with important messages (including talking about issues of life and death) are not charismatic (charisma being an eminently subjective quality). Speakers including Noam Chomsky and Jeremy Scahill get large standing-room-only audiences of engaged listeners while delivering their ideas in a perfectly reasonable way because of what they have to say and write. I find this approach to be far more respectful to the audience than that of a charismatic speaker who delivers horrible messages like US President Obama who charismatically tells the world that he'll continue George W. Bush's wars against terror, or deflects serious discussion of what he does every Tuesday when he picks whom to assassinate (sometimes referred to as "Terror Tuesdays"), or when he delivers content-free acceptance speeches like he did in Grant Park spouting vague platitudes about his forthcoming presidency (as Adolph Reed Jr. pointed out on an interview with Bill Moyers, Obama gave "evocative statements" with "no real content"), and more).
    2. You can learn to write other software. You can learn to do other jobs besides writing software.
    3. All software needs support, regardless of user interface. There are also features businesses will pay for that need to be added to extant free software, such as directory service-related features desired for easier mass deployment within their organization. You can learn to write software that is sold based on its support; other organizations have charged large sums of money based on software they did not initially write; Cygnus which, until it was bought by Red Hat, provided GCC consulting services.
    4. Apparently other people find ways to develop and distribute software via Internet download, make money, and do loads of other jobs all while not exploiting people.

    Stallman is not going to address your reference to "open source" in the way you expect because he is not a representative of the open source movement, nor has he ever been. Perhaps you would have done well to read the summary /. provided on this story and the links contained therein. One of those links pointed you to a long-published article about how Stallman is not a spokesperson for "open source" and he has pointed out significant differences between his older movement—the free software movement—and the younger open source movement which focuses on development methodology (and is therefore willing to install and recommend nonfree software). That newer essay updates an older essay which has been published in print as well as online.

    Also, developing and distributing free software doesn't always mean publishing GNU GPL-covered programs. There are lots of other free software licenses from which to choose depending on the details of the program and one's goals in distributing the program.

  162. Freedom for all ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our computers are build by people who lives in a dictatorship, can't organize themselves to get safer work conditions, the right to talk, meet the people they want, and have no time to simply live their life.

    What's the value of our freedom with computer when people are deprived of it to build the hardware we are using ?

  163. Re:Denommus by ericloewe · · Score: 2

    You hear that sound over your head? It means you missed the joke.

  164. Charisma is a distraction, the message is key. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    I think a good speaker's charisma is a distracting issue; to frame the value of a good speaker in terms of charisma is to not spend time focusing on the veracity and importance of the message that speaker has to convey. Charisma is too often used to hide a hideous message; metaphorically candy-coating anti-social messages. Charismsa is also used by the lazy listener: why bother parsing what the speaker actually says when one can get away with superficially evaluating charisma in a 5-second sound bite?

    It's easy to get around this distraction by reading a transcript of what the speaker has to say instead of hearing or watching their performance. Reading their books or papers is also very informative because that medium affords a writer the time to consider what they want to say, a luxury one doesn't have answering questions in realtime.

  165. How do you sleep at night? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your little group has helped turn the software industry from one where passionate experts develop good software, to one where the software is slammed together using the cheapest and stupidest people possible so that services can be sold to make it actually work. How can you sleep at night knowing that your group promotes this mentality, and has done more damage to hard working professionals than anyone else?

  166. The next big thing by Chainsaw · · Score: 1

    As it is now, GNU project can only be described as a huge success. My computer runs a completely free operating system, from the kernel to the desktop environment. It's all compiled with GCC (free) and edited with Emacs (free and awesome). With all of those components in place... Is there a big, new project in the pipeline for GNU? A free social network - GNUbook, Gnitter, GNUedIn?

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    1. Re:The next big thing by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Maybe the FSF and movement could come up with their own idea for a change instead of being a shitty knock off of a commercial application.

      FSF chasing everyone else ideas them about on the same level as Zynga.

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  167. Programs by kthreadd · · Score: 2

    Which programs do you use on a daily basis?

  168. Pick me pick me! by nurb432 · · Score: 0

    "How can you be so delusional that you think you are still relevant in 2014?"

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  169. What is your typical weekend like? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Greetings Mr Stallman. What is your typical weekend like? What sort of things excite your interest... do you surf the net (what topics do you enjoy), maybe you like to sleep in late like me, or perhaps you watch TV, what constructive things do you do with your spare time? Have you got a list of favourite things to share? It would be interesting to know more about RMS.

  170. Re: Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some things are wrong even if they are legal.

  171. RMS knows surveillance is bad for user freedom. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    I don't know about "Internet.org" specifically but as for using anything tied to Facebook, Instagram, and similar services: Try watching any of his recent talks, from the most recent talks to the talks dating back about a year or three. He tells you right at the top of the talk what he thinks of Facebook, Instagram, and the like—he dares to call them by their proper name: surveillance engines—and he asks users to not participate by not uploading copies of his talks and photos with him to these services. You can also read his personal website on Facebook detailing many reasons to avoid Facebook. I imagine any other service that works similarly ("Google+", for example) will receive a comparable critique.

    It seems unlikely to me that any program started by these organizations will be anything other than come-ons to lose one's privacy to these data collection companies.

    There are free software web browser add-ons you can install on your free software web browser: Priv3, NoScript, and various cookie editors/filters which will help you deal with the monitoring various services use when you get an offer to be tracked with a "like" button or similar thing. There's more work to be done on this ground, to be sure, but this is a good start.

  172. Artificial Intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You were working in AI laboratory on MIT.
    Do you still follow progress on this subject?
    What are freedom respecting AI projects that we should be aware of?

  173. Ubuntu Licensing Travesty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Richard, what do you think of Ubuntu's new "unified" "intellectual property policy", which started out as a trademark policy and has now become a Free Software blight ?

    I've ranted about it at http://rodent.za.net/because-ubuntu/ because I think Canonical and their lawyers are being dicks.

    Regard,
    Roelf.

  174. Question seems to be already answered. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    Mod this one up everyone... the ONLY question out of all of these that we can't guess Stallman's answer to.

    Sorry, but there's no need to guess what he'd say because he has published his thoughts on this long ago. Perhaps his position has changed, but if it had changed I'd expect an update to the aforementioned article at its current location, not an announcement of anything new on /..

    How would the Swedish Pirate Party's platform affect copylefted free software? After five years, its source code would go into the public domain, and proprietary software developers would be able to include it in their programs. But what about the reverse case?

    Proprietary software is restricted by EULAs, not just by copyright, and the users don't have the source code. Even if copyright permits noncommercial sharing, the EULA may forbid it. In addition, the users, not having the source code, do not control what the program does when they run it. To run such a program is to surrender your freedom and give the developer control over you.

    So what would be the effect of terminating this program's copyright after 5 years? This would not require the developer to release source code, and presumably most will never do so. Users, still denied the source code, would still be unable to use the program in freedom. The program could even have a "time bomb" in it to make it stop working after 5 years, in which case the "public domain" copies would not run at all.

    Thus, the Pirate Party's proposal would give proprietary software developers the use of GPL-covered source code after 5 years, but it would not give free software developers the use of proprietary source code, not after 5 years or even 50 years. The Free World would get the bad, but not the good. The difference between source code and object code and the practice of using EULAs would give proprietary software an effective exception from the general rule of 5-year copyright — one that free software does not share.

    He also proposes a reasonable fix:

    So I proposed that the Pirate Party platform require proprietary software's source code to be put in escrow when the binaries are released. The escrowed source code would then be released in the public domain after 5 years. Rather than making free software an official exception to the 5-year copyright rule, this would eliminate proprietary software's unofficial exception. Either way, the result is fair.

    I can only guess neither you nor the original poster tried looking up keywords in a search engine (like "stallman copyright pirate party") to find the article. Also, perhaps neither of you understand that Stallman is not a member of the open source movement nor has he ever been. Thus it is not his interest to frame this issue in terms of a "closed source" anything (to use the original questioner's words). Stallman explains his position on the difference between his movement, the free software movement, and the younger proprietary-friendly open source movement in a pair of articles which have been published for many years (older article, newer article) and in just about every talk I've ever heard him give. In fact, the intro to this /. story pointed you to one of these articles.

    1. Re:Question seems to be already answered. by Pausanias · · Score: 1

      If Stallman thinks that it is a "reasonable" proposition to force companies to put their source code in escrow, he is further removed from reality than I thought. It is more reasonable to leave things the way they are.

      He also proposes a reasonable fix:

      So I proposed that the Pirate Party platform require proprietary software's source code to be put in escrow when the binaries are released. The escrowed source code would then be released in the public domain after 5 years. Rather than making free software an official exception to the 5-year copyright rule, this would eliminate proprietary software's unofficial exception. Either way, the result is fair.

    2. Re:Question seems to be already answered. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

      It seems reasonable to me to expect that any proprietor who wants to withhold software freedom from users give up that power when the program enters the public domain; code escrow as Stallman describes sounds like a viable solution to me and a perfectly fair exchange for the public. What's not reasonable is the status quo which is endless power over the user.

  175. Is LibreOffice a disappointment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While LibreOffice could have stayed with the LGPL of moved to full GPL, they chose MPL.

    Is this a valid alternative for free software that have to compete with less restrictive open-source alternatives or yet another source of disappointment?

  176. Not as significant as considered ethical behavior. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    RMS isn't in this for popularity, he's pushing to get society to respect user's software freedom because that's what's ethical. Besides, relative to ethical observations and considered ethical thought, systemd is a minor technical change. Software changes come along from time to time and will continue to do so even replacing systemd. For all we know GNU/Hurd will offer something comparably suitable for everyday use.

  177. Re: Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is a true statement. But it does not apply here, and it is wrong only in your own imagination. Fortunately, cretins like you don't have much power to screw up the world's countries any more than they already are, all so you can make laws that enforce your precious little morals.

  178. F/OSS using obsolete architecture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why isn't the F/OSS world updating its technology?

    F/OSS reminds me of the Soviet Union, and its old copies of western equipment. Unix was invented in the early 70s. In the 80s, effort was put into creating copies of the unix kernel and userland. Technology has continued to advance, but the unix Desktop stays muddled in the past. X11 is inferior to the newer graphics systems in Windows, or OS X. Sound and scanners still have problems. Visual Studio left vi and emacs behind decades ago in features. Printers have become more sophisticated, but F/OSS printing is stuck in the 1980s.... For everyday use, I prefer to use Windows 7. Microsoft programmers and system architects take care of the details and many different architectures I don't care about.

  179. Ample Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only contemporary mention (Josephus) of Yeshua ben Yosef is known to be falsified. Nazareth probably didn't exist then. Arguments for the existence of such a man rely on the "principle of embarrassment", that is, that certain aspects of the narrative would be embarrassing to the early church and so are more likely to be factual. No unbiased person could uphold such a thing as evidence, and this is the only field of knowledge where it might be admitted as an argument.

    I can only wonder what you must believe if that is what you call "ample evidence".

  180. Thoughts? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

    What are your feelings on Slashdot Beta?

  181. Mr Stallman sir... by DrPBacon · · Score: 1

    Two questions... Why is QBASIC still the most fun piece of software on my computer? And when can X11 die?

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  182. GNU/Linux vs. Linux/GNU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had the option between OBSD vs. Linux for a commercial project and the Linux kernel gave me options that OBSD's didn't so I started using Linux as my first Unix-like OS. That was my first exposure to GNU tools. Do you ever attribute GNU tools' success partly to the Linux kernel's success as opposed to your outspoken opinion that GNU tools are primarily what boosted Linux adoption?

  183. Crowd Funding by nullchar · · Score: 1

    Do you see crowd funding as a means to economically provide for the development of Free Software and even Free Hardware?

    Have any small projects grown to a critical mass where only a few funding rounds bootstrapped them into having a sustainable Libre/Free product?

  184. How long did it take to reach where you are? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Were you born this disgusting and lame or did you have to work for it?

  185. How do you stay positive and hopeful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The world is moving further and further towards a closed, locked-down technological society rather than the open, free one you envisioned. People prefer to communicate using Facebook rather than email, people overwhelmingly prefer walled-gardens and app stores compared to fully open systems. Microsoft is still dominant on the desktop and still have their fingers in pies of every domain. GNU/Linux is getting more popular but at the expense of the traditional values people used it for (e.g. it's gaining attention due to things like Steam, a DRM, vendor-locked app store, which traditionally would be considered unconscionable to see on Linux, must less accepted). People consider you a hippie from the past, assuming people should stick to a 70's style of computer use and forgo the benefits of modern technology and physically portability.

    How the heck do you remain positive, focused and hopeful despite all the push-back against what you've campaigned for? How do you continue despite the fact there's too much money and lobbying and lack of people giving a shit for there to be any chance of reaching a point where you can finally say "I've won"?

  186. Is the gcc losing relevancy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the push by certain companies to dump gcc in favor of a non-GPL compiler. Do you see gcc losing relevancy in the modern world?

    1. Re:Is the gcc losing relevancy? by Thanosius · · Score: 1

      If people use something in sufficient numbers, it's not losing relevancy. I use gcc because it's extremely well supported, well known, well understood and compiles well. All the software and toolkits which rely on gcc aren't going to just change over to the current "in" thing just because Apple/Google/whoever are pushing LLVM like crazy with their cash and influence to make people believe that gcc isn't relevant anymore.

      Fuck I hate the tech world sometimes, particularly since people get swept up in (paid) hype so damn easily when they should know better.

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  187. Technical capability is not what freedom is about. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    However, your computer's BIOS, while in the past was usually impossible to change, can today be upgraded easily. That's why we now have Coreboot.

    You make it sound as if technical difficulty in changing BIOS software is the issue, and I'm not sure if you realize that is not so. Software freedom has to do with an ethically based argument about giving permission to legally inspect, share, and modify published software (and, ideally, securing those freedoms to make sure nobody takes them away later). With BIOS code, as with any proprietary software, the distinction is not technical capability. The distinction centers on who is legally allowed to do what.

    BIOSes prior to the arrival of Coreboot weren't all "impossible to change". BIOS distributors demonstrated that by making BIOS changes and distributing new proprietary BIOS software packages. Users were offered proprietary binaries that they could run—an ordinary installer program that allows non-technical users to easily install a new BIOS on the system.

    But users were not given a copy of BIOS source code, users were not given permission to distribute the BIOS, and users were not given permission to modify the BIOS software. These users were subjugated to the BIOS developer's rule so long as they ran that BIOS code: users had no freedom to help themselves or their community. Coreboot changes this because Coreboot respects a user's software freedom, but the difference here is one of licensing. With Coreboot any user willing to learn what Coreboot does may inspect, share, and modify Coreboot; freedoms those same users don't have with a proprietary BIOS.

  188. Re: Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A child is a child because they are incapable of making choices for themselves.

    Any adult having sex with a child should be locked up and the key thrown away.

  189. Assets never become free by tepples · · Score: 1

    Id Software did not issue that cease and desist, ZeniMax did.

    They're the same company.

    Mozilla enforces it's copyright over Firefox, that doesn't mean Firefox isn't FOSS.

    Except that the assets that the game program reads, namely the textures, maps, audio, and event scripts, never become free under Id's policy.

    1. Re:Assets never become free by wangstabill · · Score: 1

      Zenimax is enforcing copyright over a company they acquired, over games that were made before they were acquired. Id in fact released the source to Quake years before they were acquired. Not having the assets does make it difficult to build the entire game in a playable state, but the point of OSS is not that you entire product has to be free of charge, it's that what's running on your box is transparent.

  190. On open source by oldgunpraa · · Score: 1

    Do you think all software should stick to the idea of free software? Do you think free software would gain more success if they are applied to certain bussiness models and let the free market decide? Like android, which is quite successful as open source?

  191. Re: Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A child is a child because they are incapable of making choices for themselves.

    That is simply incorrect. Children make choices for themselves all the time, and they also make mistakes. Likewise, adults do the same. Adults have sex with people and then later regret, and sometimes severely. Most adults are only a little bit less shortsighted than children, and yet they're allowed to have sex.

    But the bottom line is this: In each individual case, the prosecution should have to prove that rape took place. We should revise our nonsensical consent laws and such, as well. This is all mainly caused by irrational "for the children" people like you who spew forth circular arguments and then make moral judgements and pretend as if their morals should be enforced through the law.

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  192. Name-calling or serious misunderstanding? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    In the recent Clang thread, you seemed to say quality of software either isn't important to you, or at least is less important than the software being free software.

    I'm not sure what post of Stallman's you're referring to because you linked to nothing and quoted nothing. Your statement is without a clear basis in anything he said, and therefore seems specious. I'll assume you're referring to his post on the GCC mailing list in which he says:

    For GCC to be replaced by another technically superior compiler that defended freedom equally well would cause me some personal regret, but I would rejoice for the community's advance.

    So when you follow up with:

    As someone who writes software for a living, this seemed like a "jump the shark" moment. (But maybe you jumped this particular shark long ago.)

    you seem to have no serious issue to raise, just name-calling. What part of what he said to the GCC list convinces you that Stallman "seemed to say quality of software [...] isn't important" as if that was to be a seriously considered alternative? For many years, GNU programs have been known as considerably powerful, GCC being one of them. Given the totality of what Stallman has been saying since 1984 it seems so much more reasonable to conclude that Stallman believes software freedom is more important than technical superiority that I suspect you're trolling.

    Code quality is an achievement won with hard work, to be sure, but the fight for securing software freedom has historically taken considerable time in addition to any technical improvements needed. When people's attention is diverted away from ethics, the community suffers. This is true in every field of endeavor, software development is no exception. As the open source movement was designed to not talk about how people treat each other (1, 2), we need a careful and thorough rejection of the notion that programmers can afford to ply their talents without regard for how helping proprietors hurts our community. The free software movement gives us that ethics-based critique and it also gives us practical software with which to further improve our community.

  193. Re:Source Code vs Binary vs Service - Transparency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What you're looking for is UEFI secure boot.

    Seriously, what box are you living in?

    --BitZtream

  194. Linking to GPL code by gnupun · · Score: 1

    Why is non-GPL code prohibited from linking to GPLed code? Linking (i.e. using) does not restrict the freedom of the GPLed code. People who accidentally link their non-GPL code to GPL code risk converting their (often proprietary) code to GPL.

    In summary, all types of free software (like BSD) and commercial software should be able to link to GPLed code without affecting their license. They should also be able to redistribute the GPL code provided it is used as-is and not modified (or the modifications published).

  195. Prick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are you such a giant fucking prick? No one cares about your fat beard GNU shit. FUCK YOU.

  196. Real questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "When did you last bath?"

    "Why do you still live in your mother's basement?"

  197. Software that pretends to be free, but isn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you feel about software projects where the authors pretend that the source code is free software, but never releases any of their updates to the code base?

    For example Slashcode, the code running Slashdot, claims to be free software using the GPL version 2 and the Slashcode FAQ says that the version running on Slashdot is within a week of the version available on CVS, but not only did they apparently forget to update the FAQ when they switched to git in 2009, you'll also get an error, if you try to clone their git repository.

    I know that the GPL can't be used to force the authors of Slashcode to release the updated version of the source code, so my question isn't from a legal standpoint, but more from a moral standpoint. How do you feel about the lack of updates to the public release of the Slashcode source?

  198. What exactly was that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thing you appeared to eat off your foot in that famous youtube video of you?

  199. Re: Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, but you're wrong by the simple fact that most people would see you as a sicko, not me. The reason there are laws governing when a person is considered an adult are precisely because children are not capable of making serious choices for themselves, or would you equally apply your batshit insane logic to allowing children to purchase guns and sign up for the military?

  200. When did you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... last have a bath?

  201. Debian and GFDL by wispoftow · · Score: 1

    Dear Dr. Stallman,

    I am wondering if the rift between Debian GNU/Linux and the GFDL could ever be healed. For example, the Emacs documentation (GFDL) is deemed to be outside the bounds of the Debian Social Contract.

    This leads one to have to enable the non-free repositories in order to install the Emacs documentation, unless one has to resort to compiling from source.

    What steps must Debian take in order to come into compliance with the FSF? Would the FSF modify the GFDL to remove the objections of the Debian community? I wish that the FSF could come to complete terms with a community who actually acknowledges their lineage.

    Thanks,
    An Anonymous FSF Associate Member

  202. Re: Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, but you're wrong by the simple fact that most people would see you as a sicko, not me.

    Appeal to popularity. Nice try, but it's a fallacy.

    And as usual, you people assume (most of the time, incorrectly) that anyone who questions your stupid logic must be a pedophile. I defend people's right to mountain climb, but I'm not a mountain climber. I defend gay marriage, but I'm not gay. I may question your "for the children" nonsense, but I myself am not interested in children.

    The reason there are laws governing when a person is considered an adult are precisely because children are not capable of making serious choices for themselves

    Strange, because many adults don't seem to be able to do that either! If you're going to argue that people should be forbidden from making choices because they may make mistakes, then you should go all the way. Just admit that you're a freedom-hating authoritarian and be done with it.

    or would you equally apply your batshit insane logic to allowing children to purchase guns and sign up for the military?

    I don't really care what they do.

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    Thank you Dave Raggett
  203. Why Only Engineers? by shrodingerscat · · Score: 1

    All other professionals work to protect their profession and careers. Lawyers have the bar that you have to join. Doctors need licensing and board accreditation. Musicians have the RIAA. Most professionals have lobbying groups fighting in their best interest. But engineers...not only do we shun unions and standardized licensing, but we go that extra special step to give away our services for free and turn it into a moral crusade. So my question is, with so many unemployed and underemployed engineers, how do we grow quality jobs in our industry? Do we all get jobs at universities and make money off speeches?

  204. Essential-freedoms in other contexts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are your thoughts about the applicability of the 'four freedoms' to non-software contexts?

    For example, someone in an impoverished country could be handed an apple. This apple is like proprietary software - one has no idea what malware it contains until it is eaten (executed). It would be amazing if a person could independently verify the contents of this binary.

    Another example; there are regulations surrounding a person's ability to modify and understand their own non-software property. My car did not come with source code or schematics, and even if it did i would not have the ability to rebuild parts of it (c.f. GPLv2/GPLv3 tivoization distinction).

    With some thought, there are many cases in the modern world where a person is restricted by inessential complexity. I think there would be a lot of benefit to society in general if the 'four freedoms' concepts could be extended past the reach of software.

  205. Favorite hardware by twistedcubic · · Score: 1

    Can you describe the best hardware you have ever owned or used?

  206. Video Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is your take on video games, any form of digital recreation actually?

  207. open hardware by smash · · Score: 1

    Given the complexity of modern CPUs and the widespread use of updatable microcode to hide bugs in, how do you think the open source world will be able to deal with this and remain competitive on performance? Actually, that goes for hardware in general - unless we can trust the firmware in our devices, we're screwed irrespective of OS. Given the average person can't just spin up their own hardware manufacturing plant (and even if there is documentation for driver development, firmware is typically closed), how do you propose we solve this problem?

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  208. I'll see myself out by musclorr · · Score: 1

    Have you ever played Candy Crush ?

  209. Re: Denommus by smash · · Score: 1

    Society's laws are decided upon by elected representatives of the masses. If you don't like it, petition for change and get public support. Or leave. I doubt you'll find much public support for legalizing pedophilia.

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  210. Re: Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 1

    What, exactly, is your point? To point out the obvious? To point out that, even in our republic, we're still subject to the tyranny of the majority? I'm already aware.

    Rather than me leaving, I wonder why all these people live in a country that's supposed to be "the land of the free and the home of the brave" to begin with?

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  211. GNU OS by koavf · · Score: 1

    Is the glacial pace of the GNU operating system disappointing to you? Is actually completing this OS a priority for you personally or the FSF movement at large? Thanks for all the good work you do.

  212. Re: Denommus by smash · · Score: 1

    My point is that if you want to live in a society and make use of its support structure (currency, public services, etc.) then you ned to abide by its rules. Whether you agree with them or not. Just because you think pedophilia is OK, does not mean that you are free to prey on other's children who do not think it is OK.

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  213. Re: Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 1

    My point is that if you want to live in a society and make use of its support structure (currency, public services, etc.) then you ned to abide by its rules.

    There is something called "civil disobedience," so at the very least, this is not always true. Me? I recommend that people not be mindless drones.

    Just because you think pedophilia is OK, does not mean that you are free to prey on other's children who do not think it is OK.

    First, the sort of thing I'm talking about has nothing to do with preying on anyone. Second, just because they think it's not okay doesn't mean that it's wrong for someone to do it.

    For example, I encourage people to treat copyright law as if it doesn't exist. It is unjust, and to me, might as well be nonexistent.

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
  214. State of the Union? by valles · · Score: 1

    Mr. Stallman, The open software movement is proposed as an endeavor to save humanity from constantly reinventing the wheel. How close or far is the reality from the ideal? The entire open source community cannot be composed entirely of altruists. I imagine the community is primarily composed of programmers who wish to retain their source code and skill set if they change employers. If the open source community were to make the transition to a "technological singularity" what are the major and minor roadblocks you see in transitioning toward this endeavor?

    1. Re:State of the Union? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might not want to call it "Open Source" when RMS himself makes a clear distinction between "Free Software" and "Open Source".

  215. Juan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I am a software developer by heart and nature, doing it as a hobby would be a waste of my talents."
    Nop! do it with balance! One that make ur living and bring food to ur house and the other u share!

  216. systemd assimilating everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have any concerns about the way that systemd has been assimilating many formerly independent packages--does this work against software freedom?

  217. Do you still work on AI related material? by decapolis · · Score: 1

    Reading Sanjoy Mahajan's Street-Fighting Mathematics, he references a paper you published with Sussman about constraint propagation, the paper being about computer-aided circuit analysis. Do you still work on AI-ish topics like that? Or is it FSF-turtles all the way down?

  218. Libre firmware by bug1 · · Score: 1

    Libre software is used in many embedded devices, however there are very few devices that do not also use proprietary software seperately on the same device.

    Manufacturers will often embrace Libre software, then extend it with own essential proprietary binaries, making the whole non-free and difficult for the community to liberate.

    How would you feel about a GPL like licence that didnt not tolerate distribution alongside prioprietary code (no mere agregation) ?

    1. Re:Libre firmware by bug1 · · Score: 1

      How would you feel about a GPL like licence that didnt not tolerate distribution alongside prioprietary code (no mere agregation) ?

      Duoh, meant to say 'licence that did not tolerate'

  219. Whats the point of this thread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know you can email RMS at rms@fsf.org and he will always answer granted your email was serious.

    RMS Intercourse

  220. RMS, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why parrots?

  221. Open Source is Free but Free is not Open? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I disagree with the idea of Free Software as Open Source is truly Free! More Free than Free Software!

    1. Re:Open Source is Free but Free is not Open? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually Free is Open Source, but Open Source isn't free.

  222. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Indeed, why should your (or lister's) opinion be foisted on any other, just because you say so?

  223. Other projects you have - unknown to us by advid.net · · Score: 1

    Mr Stallman,
    Do you have some projects unknown to the public that you would really like to gave birth to ?

    We all know about GNU, is there something else you didn't had time to start or to finish that we are unaware of and that would really please you to see completed ?

    This is one question, paraphrased.

  224. Re: Denommus by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    It's interesting that in places where they have a problem with teenage pregnancy the only thing that fixes it is education. Preaching or trying to control children so strictly they can't have sex with each other is like trying to herd cats. If you give them the facts to make an informed decision and access to contraception they prove themselves able to act responsibly.

    --
    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  225. Just email him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He more often than not will respond in a serious manner.
    4chan.org/g/ (or, according to him, a place filled with inane comments) does it all the time.

  226. Re:Source Code vs Binary vs Service - Transparency by psydeshow · · Score: 1

    Thank you for your polite comment, but no I'm not looking for UEFI secure boot -- or at least, not JUST that.

    With UEFI secure boot, the OS loader is signed, and that's a great start. But not necessarily the kernel, or OS drivers, or any other software.

    So let's rephrase the questions: do you know of any Free Software toolchains that would allow developers to sign whole server OS configurations, and also make the signature and verification process transparent to end users of the server?

  227. Re:Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am sorry to know that you suffer for such an impairment.-Ignacio Agulló

  228. A difficult one: What about remote services? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can control the software in our machines, choosing what we install and also rewriting the content of flash memories. But what about the software in remote machines? I mean web services such as the website from the Free Software Foundation, or backup services such as SpiderOak. We only get to see the output of it. We may be told it's free software, we may be shown the source, but the fact is that the service is unauditable to us. We are left to rely on trust exclusively, and trust isn't security.

  229. Re: Denommus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure it is. Have you ever heard of the term "might makes right"? Well it's true, no matter how much childish whining you do. If you don't like the conduct of society, feel free to purchase an island in the middle of nowhere and start your own child molesting country.

  230. Re: no, GPL is about software not weapons by lagi · · Score: 1

    Let's admit it, in 2014 restricting usage of software in weapon systems is another way of saying: "I want new enemies".
    It is wrong, but true. I think GPL is not about weapon usage, it's about software, basic freedom, and the combination of both.
    It's up to us humans if we are 'evil' or 'good', involving a software licence into this just seems wrong to me.

  231. After you're gone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The FSF has achieved some significant successes, the GPL3 license is quite popular, and the idea of "free software" has its many fans. However, the only notable evangelists of the cause of "software freedom" seem to be you and Eben Moglen. After you two are gone, the licenses and the software will remain. But what will become of the movement without evangelists? Are you two making any efforts to hatch any replacements for yourselves?

  232. Re: Denommus by gIobaljustin · · Score: 1

    Have you ever heard of the term "might makes right"?

    Have you ever heard the term "bandwagon fallacy"?

    You're just a "protect the children" loser with no capability of making logical arguments.

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
  233. creative uses of copyleft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the concept of copyleft a lot. I'm just curious if there are any particular cases where copyleft has been used in a creative way that really stand out for you. What are a few of the coolest non-software uses of copyleft that you have seen?

  234. Free software Vocabulary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the article - Why "Open Source" misses the point of Free Software. I noticed that a vocabulary word was used "tyrants" which described devices that came with executable but only one special company has the power to modify them. Is there a list of these vocab words somewhere ? like a free software cheat-sheet.

  235. My Yeelong Lemote 8089_B black netbook Awaits. by StackedAgainstDivest · · Score: 1
    Dear RMS,

    I bought a Yeelong (as above) after a five year long search on ebay, using the saved search option. I would like to Upload the Hware details to www.h-node.org , as it is the last netbook left in that category that is undetailed. Is that desirable ? Please contact me at my hub. happy hacking..

  236. Groupies! by garnetlion · · Score: 1

    Realizing most nerds are men, do you ever have she-nerds (or, why not? he-nerds) throw themselves at you? Has anybody met you after a talk and invited you up to their hotel room? Do ever get fan mail offering wild sex or proposing marriage?

  237. So where's the interview at? by jaq1an · · Score: 1

    anyone? I don't see it.

  238. Who controls what happens on your computer? by bbsalem · · Score: 1

    I have known about Richard Stallman for a long time and have seen some recent interviews down by Russia TV, whose interest is suspect, given that at least one interviewer did his utmost to twist what Stallman was saying.

    I have always felt that Stallman's views are a little doctrinaire including the distinction between the kernel being totally free and the applications not being totally free. The way I understand it, the hook non-free tools have on users who install them is convenience, if not market share, but that is the hook any main market player has on consumers of any products. So, people are more than willing to sacrifice freedom, as in total control of their systems, to non-free convenience. It is not simply that closed standards are supported by non-free software, but that lots of content uses non-free standards and in some cases that is to the advantage of the content owner. It would be interesting to hear what Stallman thinks of efforts to enforce ownership on content.

    I ascribe to the theory that ownership has to be enforced, that the reason why copyright protection is a losing battle in digital media is that it is predicated on the expense of making copies, which digital technology has made practically zero, and so the enforcement of property rights is at best a game of picking low hanging fruit, not stopping it. These are two distinct problems, content producers have reasons to pick closed standards, but in the face of any real ability to enforce ownership and against the possibility that they may see the advantage to publish in an free standard for wide desemination of samples of their work, if not all of them. "Free" is not the same as "Open". An open standard might just be a published API that uses a non-free core, for which a licensing fee had to be paid or at least the owner does not publish the source for.

    So, this raises an interesting idea, to the extant that so-called open-source programs are undocumented or poorly documented are they free or not? Yes, you can get at the source and read it and if you are smart you can figure out what it does. If there are no documents, or they are poorly written, as is often the case, then if there are no useful comments in the source, is having the source really any different than if the code were not free?

  239. I'd like to ask him why he hates Jews so much... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    serious question for anybody that has read his views about Zionism and Israel.

  240. Artificial intelligence DeepMind/Google ethics boa by alf63 · · Score: 1

    Hello mister Stallman, I really appreciate the rules that you have set up for free software, notably by the GPL, that enable us to enjoy the use of non-proprietary software everyday. My question is about what I think is an emerging new dimension in software power, impact on society, and licencing. Concerning the recent acquisition of the very secretive artificial intelligence company Deepmind by Google, I read that DeepMind required that Google create a joint Google / DeepMind ethics board as a condition of the deal, which would create rules for what Google could do with the technology. It seems to me that most artificial intelligence software today (Siri, Cyc, Watson, DeepMind, ...) are proprietary software, even if they massively use free resources like Wikipedia. Do you feel concerned by the ethics of possible artificial intelligence software usage? Given the possible dangers of this kind of software (see Kurzweil's Singularity) and the fear it inspires to most people (see most of the science fiction literature - except Asimov), do you feel the need for a new kind of licencing for this kind of software? (Sorry for my mistakes in English, I'm not a native speaker)

  241. Deo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What open source deodorant would you recommend? Or are you a shining example of why there is a gap in the market?

  242. News Flash: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, about that...recipes aren't eligible for copyright protection.

    Sorry... that wouldn't work, would it?

    Argumentum ad ignorantiam.

    You're also, as the other poster noted, confused about the difference between gratis and libre. There is nothing in the GPL that says you can't make money off of it. Red Hat makes millions selling open-source software. Similarly, many people earn substantial sums by selling recipe books.

    Aside: Your analogies suck. Your whole argument is pretty bad, really. If you can't avoid making logical errors in writing three short paragraphs, how much value can your code have?

    Let's continue picking this apart. Your hypothetical kid next door is engaging in competitive behavior, commonly held to be a good thing. It more efficiently allocates resources, ya? And if we're going to continue thinking about this in economic terms, increased competition drives the price of some good towards the marginal cost to produce that good. The cost to produce n+1 units of software is nonzero but almost immeasurably low. You may feel that that your software is worth a certain amount, but market forces rarely take personal feelings into account; the world does not owe you a living. Selling software is by that standard a sucker's game.

    But if you happen to be in that market, you are not going to be working from the bare metal, using your own syntactic structures. Accomplishing any non-trivial programming task requires using and building on the work of many others. If I have been able to code more than others, it is because I have grep'ed the code of giants. We can hold up gcc as being a essential tool for many people for many years. How novel is your code, compared to that which has been given freely? And what good is that novelty if it will be lost to the bit bucket in a handful of years?

    Using the free work of others to create a closed-source product is somewhat immoral, but the real harm is to the poor bastard who gets stuck with a printer that he can only use with one OS. Or the end-user who can't export his recipes out of the proprietary software that he's been using to manage them. As a developer you exercise a great deal of power of your end-users, and it is almost inevitable that this will become to some degree abusive. The one-sided power balance inherent to closed source software practically guarantees abuse, especially when the number of users is large.

    Novel or unique parts of a program, lol.

  243. Where do I find Stallman's answers? by henrikba · · Score: 1

    I've read through this thread, and I've read through the previous Stallman interview ( http://interviews.slashdot.org... ), but I fail to find any of his answers. Am I just plain stupid (bait!) or are the answers posted somewhere else? Does he answer under a slashdot ID or as AC?

  244. Nonfree+spying versus spying alone = bad options by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing that, of the two, one can't easily avoid being spied on either way. So there's no need to take on the unethical, user-subjugating proprietary software of Skype as well. But the software involved in a traditional phone call isn't under the user's control and doesn't require the caller to take on nonfree software. There's no need to restrict our consideration to just these two options, however. As Skype is perceived as a viable alternative to the traditional phone call, Skype shows us that a free software program that respects our privacy could supplant Skype. What we need is an easily-used totally free software calling program that can encrypt calls at the ends of the call so even if the call data is recorded it can't easily be decrypted for a very long time. It would be even better if there was some way of masking the parties involved the call as well so the data describing the call is unclear as well.

  245. Free software for nonfree OSes? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    I'd like to read what you have to say about free software programs for nonfree operating systems. Do you find that free software programs for nonfree operating systems help migrate users to freedom, reinforce a user's dependency on nonfree operating systems, or something else?

  246. Food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is your favorite food for breakfast?

  247. Open Automotive Software/Firmware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The automotive industry blatantly has no regard for security https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqe6S6m73Zw
    and the attack surface continues to grow linking your very vulnerable personal devices to your very critical control systems
    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9246695/The_next_wave_of_cars_may_use_Ethernet

    If I am to purchase a vehicle I should have ownership and control over all hardware included in the vehicle. And the firmware which runs on it that comes from the OEM is far from acceptable. It seems like open source would help solve the afore mentioned issues but this is a difficult problem since each system differs so much across make/model.

    How do you think we can get open firmware and software deployed in the automotive industry?