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GNOME 3.12 Released
New submitter Sri Ramkrishna writes: "Like clockwork, the next version of GNOME has been released with updated applications, bugfixes, and so forth. People can look forward to faster loading times and a little better performance than before. A video has been created to highlight the release! Check it out!"
The release features "... app folders, enhanced system status and
high-resolution display support. This release also includes new and
redesigned applications for video, software, editing, sound recording
and internet relay chat. Under the hood, support for using Wayland instead of X has progressed
significantly." There are a bunch of new features for programmers too.
Meet the new boss: same as the old boss.
The KDE and Gnome people have decided that they are going to cater for the most unsophisticated users alone. Thus, they have come up with desktop environments with lots of eye candy that take up a nontrivial amount of resources, that make it difficult to work in ways that are not exactly those that these people espouse, and that make anything but the most perfunctory use of the computer well nigh impossible.
As far as I am concerned both KDE and Gnome can rot in hell. Thank goodness, under Linux we have other desktop choices that don't treat the end user as a moron.
... related to gnome already sounds negative
And I see they're still jumping on this Unity-ish sidebar UI bandwagon... ugh, I guess I'll be using xfce for a while longer so I can actually have a normal top and bottom panels. Running apps and workspace picker along the bottom, Application (etc) menus along the top with various system controls... its worked well for over a decade, yes some people might like the newer Vista/OSXy way to set things up, and fine that can be the (annoying) default, but at least give us the *option* to set up our workspace as we like. Saying "we don't support user customization anymore" is simply arrogant and not an option for open source software which was supposed to be all about the user having control.
It looks nice, and I commend them for all the hard work, I'm sure a lot of hours went in to it, but I won't be in any rush to upgrade if I still can't even do something simple like move my panels around.
Jezus, I've been on this site since Malda was still using it as a tab on his website. It took them this long to actually accept a submission of mine.
After a few missteps, Gnome is now a pleasure on the desktop. The window management is intuitive and functional - the first desktop since the late 1980s that isn't a morass of windows. The applications menu is well laid out instead of a wobbly tree of menus. Overall it's quick and stable.
I do miss the dual pane in Nautilus, but I just installed the alternate file browser from the Mate/Cinnamon project. After all this is Linux, we have choice. Here's hoping that they put those features back, as they have done with the other features they "took away" in app rewrites.
I tried KDE for a few weeks, it claims to be ultimately configurable. But you can't even do simple stuff like assign the meta key as a shortcut, or have a menu to the left of screen that works well. KDE is too much like the familiar but difficult Windows desktop paradigm.
âoeGNOME is the desktop environment of choice for many Yahoo developers..." so That is the reason Yahoo went to hell! When Gnome2 was abandoned the "team" showed its true colors, a big Fail
Wonderful, the unusable interface of 'evince' (Print is hidden under a sun icon or a gear, or something -- with no known way to open the menu from the keyboard) now comes to gedit. Now editing a file becomes impossible too! Please, folks, follow CUA , the Common User Access protocols, with named menus we can access with Alt+keystroke or F10. Arrrrrgh! Stupid! Make it stop! Give us back our File, Edit, View menus and all the rest!
But mostly because just about every extension is really something that should be a preference and is every way inferior to a checkbox.
Because it winds you up?
After watching the video I find I have been pronouncing Gnome incorrectly for all these years. Ga-nome, I've been saying Nome..
Gnome 3.12: **slighltly** more user friendly than Windows 8, which is like saying it is slightly more user friendly than a rabid zombie wolverine in a kindergarten playground.
I watched the video. Gnome 3.12 still sucks. It is an embarrassment to Linux; it is one of the reasons why after 10 years we still don't have "the year of the Linux Desktop". This is a continuing example of the developers deciding how the users should work, not thinning about how the users are used to doing things. Yecch.
Thank goodness for XFCE. XFCE's developers seem to actually have the user experience in mind.
there are 3 kinds of people:
* those who can count
* those who can't
...
Goodness. It's worse than Microsoft Bob.
Sorry to say that but with every new version of Gnome 3 the Desktop is getting sluggisher and sluggisher.
I compre here my experience of Fedora 18 vs Fedora 20.
I know all these tasks in the background like tracker, pulseaudio, journald, packagekit make the system crawl but gnome-shell still feels slow.
I also don't understand why the entire desktop gets grayed out and modal once I get a dialog where I only need to click cancel or ok. I't not possible to reach other features and other applications (time critic ones) once put into background. Stupid idea!
Does this release include the "search my hard drive every time I try to open an app" feature? I'm sure the people with SSD drives think it's great but it sucks on magnetic drives whenever you want to open a program you have to click on a search bar and the machine slows to a crawl while it searches the hard drive while you type in the program name
beta or not:
gnome 3 is like portal 2 on steroids but without the white portal panels : }
At first I had major issues with Gnome 3, but I kept an open mind. After a little while, I became more productive with it than with a traditional desktop UI. My favorite thing is that I don't have to point and click anywhere near as much as I did before. I can do almost anything with my keyboard.
I watched the video. She says it as "Gah-nome". I always pronounced it Gnome (that is, nome). I had to replay it several times to get past the Gah! There are other reasons why I worry about them breaking the traditional desktop experience, but if the Gnome group don't ruin the desktop for the user, there is always Ubuntu. So long as my USB mouse works after booting up, and I get rid of the 13 and counting error message popups when I first start X, I will be happy.
i like cheddar :)
thank you and the horse you rode in on for the most useful news i've had here in a while.
gnome is driving me nuttier than i thought i could get at the moment, but am sticking with it, is better than nothing.
which about sums up the alternatives, when they're not trying to be everything.
-- dear linus, who is git, and to what is he objecting? --
No? Didn't think so... Here's looking forward to Gnome 4. I'll give this one a miss.
"Is the Chief Priest an Offlian? Do dragons explode in the wood?"
terrific! That's so wonderful~
I too have been here a long time.
Not as long as you Sri but longer than inode_buddha.
rgds
Why is it that every single time GNOME has a new version, it gets greenlit on /.? It's certainly not news; there are plenty of other desktop managers, GNOME's not even really the leader anymore, and this seems like it was a relatively minor release anyway. It's definitely not the discussion because the same three posts with minor variations are in every single article about the damn thing (it's a mess, it's not a mess, [thing] sucks more). I guess it might be news for a subset of a subset of nerds, but I don't really think it matters that much. Are we going to start posting stories about every single release of 7zip, too? Or Chrome?
It requires systemd, ergo I could care less.
I tried Cinnamon for a bit, and then finally settled on MATE. Gnome is irrelevant, and KDE I haven't used since 4.0
There are 2 groups of people you can make fun of on the Internet without fear of attack. The illiterate, and the Amish.