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Online Skim Reading Is Taking Over the Human Brain

Hugh Pickens DOT Com (2995471) writes "Michael S. Rosenwald reports in the Washington Post that, according to cognitive neuroscientists, humans seem to be developing digital brains with new circuits for skimming through the torrent of information online at the expense of traditional deep reading circuitry... Maryanne Wolf, one of the world's foremost experts on the study of reading, was startled last year to discover her brain was apparently adapting, too. After a day of scrolling through the Web and hundreds of e-mails, she sat down one evening to read Hermann Hesse's challenging novel The Glass Bead Game. 'I'm not kidding: I couldn't do it,' says Wolf. 'It was torture getting through the first page. I couldn't force myself to slow down so that I wasn't skimming, picking out key words, organizing my eye movements to generate the most information at the highest speed. I was so disgusted with myself.'

The brain was not designed for reading and there are no genes for reading like there are for language or vision. ... Before the Internet, the brain read mostly in linear ways — one page led to the next page, and so on. The Internet is different. With so much information, hyperlinked text, videos alongside words and interactivity everywhere, our brains form shortcuts to deal with it all — scanning, searching for key words, scrolling up and down quickly. This is nonlinear reading, and it has been documented in academic studies. ... Some researchers believe that for many people, this style of reading is beginning to invade our ability to deal with other mediums. 'We're spending so much time touching, pushing, linking, scrolling and jumping through text that when we sit down with a novel, your daily habits of jumping, clicking, linking is just ingrained in you,' says Andrew Dillon."

224 comments

  1. Meh by Mateorabi · · Score: 5, Funny

    tl;dr

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    1. Re:Meh by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can someone summarize the summary, it's too long to bother skimming.

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    2. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to the era of the [extremely] temporary...

    3. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "people are a problem"

    4. Re:Meh by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      tl;ds

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    5. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      brain broke

    6. Re:Meh by similar_name · · Score: 1

      You didn't even skim it?

    7. Re:Meh by bug1 · · Score: 1

      If you RTFA you would realise that tl;dr is for inter...nubs.

    8. Re:Meh by LookIntoTheFuture · · Score: 1

      tl;dr

      I was a bit disappointed that this wasn't the first post. :)

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    9. Re:Meh by geekmux · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Can someone summarize the summary, it's too long to bother skimming.

      I find this comical, and yet it was flagged as Insightful.

      I guess we know how the masses feel. Goodbye bookstores and movies theaters, hello Twitter and Vine.

      Seriously, think about that. What happens when this mentality involuntarily leads society to continue to shrink their ability to be attentive to anything?

      Will Hollywood react and install POS scanners on every theater door so patrons can "swipe" to see the next 3-minute micro-movie? Will they even bother selling popcorn and soda?

      Will Stephen King give up on novels and start writing really scary comic books 12 times a year?

      When everything in life warrants no more than 30 seconds of peoples precious time, good luck finding value or reward in anything you do. Even something fun.

    10. Re:Meh by peragrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      another moron posted another moronic theory of how the brain works based on their own personal experiences of stupidity, laziness, and lack of focus. These used to be published by quick magazines called tabloids. Now they look legitimate.

      I personally felt stupider just reading the summary. I am online at work all day. now I can't watch tv without doing something else but I have gone through a dozen books(usually ebooks but not always) since christmas without any kind of issue.

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    11. Re:Meh by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      Comic books? Too long! Three panel comic strips!

    12. Re:Meh by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Will Hollywood react and install POS scanners on every theater door so patrons can "swipe" to see the next 3-minute micro-movie?

      Hollywood has been reacting for years. Just look at a movie from 50 years ago compared to today. Lawrence of Arabia was considered the greatest action movie made. Today it would be a drama at best. Most movie goers want an hour and a half to two hours of explosions, choreographed kung-fu dance fights, and physics defying car/plane/spaceship chases. There's a reason Michael Bay movies do so well. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I enjoy the occasional explosion-fest too. Just look at the original Matrix movie. They spoon fed what the Matrix was to the audience, and there are still people today who don't know what it was supposed to be about.

      Will they even bother selling popcorn and soda?

      As long as movie theaters are in business, yes. That's where they make their money after the studios get done shaking them down.

      Will Stephen King give up on novels and start writing really scary comic books 12 times a year?

      We can only hope.

      When everything in life warrants no more than 30 seconds of peoples precious time, good luck finding value or reward in anything you do. Even something fun.

      Congratulations, you are starting to get the same type of mindset your grandparents have/had. Now get in front of a mirror and start working on your "get off my lawn" face. ;-)

    13. Re:Meh by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I hope you know where your towel is.

    14. Re:Meh by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      t;d

    15. Re:Meh by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 1

      I think it's more of a personal evolution thing. My wife, and the parent poster, still read lots of long books, so they can still do it just fine. Those of us who only read five or six novels (or less!) a year may tend to agree with the original summary. I still have times when I like to get back and re-read my favorite books, but I've found that I can keep the attention better by listening to it in audiobook form than by paper-book reading. Maybe I just need a good reading chair again and I'd be able to re-brain-plasticity my way back to being a long-book reader, but for now, I'm fine with audiobooks.

    16. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, your joke isn't too far from the truth:

      http://www.npr.org/2014/04/01/297690717/why-doesnt-america-read-anymore?

      http://gawker.com/npr-pulled-a-brilliant-april-fools-prank-on-people-who-1557745710

    17. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most movie goers want an hour and a half to two hours of explosions

      Think about it: When that's what they show, those are the people who will be going.

      Then remember that those movie goers are actually so few people that the cinemas and MPAA continuously complain about lack of income.

    18. Re:Meh by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Hollywood has been reacting for years. Just look at a movie from 50 years ago compared to today. Lawrence of Arabia was considered the greatest action movie made. Today it would be a drama at best.

      It was always a drama, with some action. There was no "action" movie per se until the 60s starting more or less with the Bond movies. Everything prior to that could be more or less described as a story with action sequences rather than an action movie tied together with story sequences. The Michael Bey variety could be said to be just a series of action sequences with not much else...

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    19. Re:Meh by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      3? Pfft, ill take my comics the way they were intended, single panel and political in nature

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    20. Re:Meh by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      Most movie goers want an hour and a half to two hours of explosions

      Think about it: When that's what they show, those are the people who will be going.

      Then remember that those movie goers are actually so few people that the cinemas and MPAA continuously complain about lack of income.

      You'd have a point, but the top 20 highest grossing movies says otherwise. There are still movies that are not 2 hours of gun shots and explosions, but they rarely do well.

    21. Re:Meh by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Congratulations, you are starting to get the same type of mindset your grandparents have/had. Now get in front of a mirror and start working on your "get off my lawn" face. ;-)

      An Egyptian legend relates that when the god Thoth revealed his discovery of writing to King Thamos, the good King denounced it as the enemy of civilization. "Children and young people," protested the monarch, "who had hitherto been forced to apply themselves diligently to learn and retain whatever was taught them would cease to apply themselves and would neglect to exercise their memories."

      Kids these days. Seems like the next generation has been ruining civilization since civilization began.

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    22. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personnally think this is a direct result of advertisements and marketing... we keep having to improve these skimming skills to separate the content from the garbage.

    23. Re:Meh by machineghost · · Score: 1

      What if we start overreacting and drawing conclusions that are in no way supported by any scientific research (in the original article or elsewhere)?

      Please. Old people have been fearfully complaining about the youth doing things differently since the dawn of time. And human society hasn't ended, nor have we all turned in to gibbering idiots. Nor will we ever.

      Get over it grandpa, technology does not mean the end of rewarding or fun activity.

    24. Re:Meh by wulfhere · · Score: 1

      +1000, Insightful

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    25. Re:Meh by guises · · Score: 2

      I guess we know how the masses feel. Goodbye bookstores and movies theaters, hello Twitter and Vine.

      You seem to have interpreted the summary as another "our attention spans are shrinking!" article, that isn't how I read it. This is talking about how people approach lengthier bodies of text, it has nothing to do with Twitter or Vine on the surface, and I don't see it as necessarily a bad thing. What the article is saying is that we are adapting to adsorb information quickly rather than thoroughly. My claim: both things are valuable.

    26. Re:Meh by Johann+Lau · · Score: 1

      No matter how excited or stupid you may be, you're still just one person, so no.

    27. Re:Meh by slickwillie · · Score: 1

      "Seriously, think about that. What happens when this mentality involuntarily leads society to continue to shrink their ability to be attentive to anything?"

      Someone made a documentary film on this subject a few years ago. IIRC it was called "Idiocracy".

    28. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ancient Egyptian civilization fell, so I'm not sure the point you're making is what you want it to be.

    29. Re:Meh by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Indeed -- I took this to be the same skill as the primitive who glances at a vast prairie, immediately gets all the information he needs from it (not enough game to be worth the trouble to hunt, too big to search for scarce water) and moves along to something else.

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    30. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      all but two of those films were released in my lifetime. I've seen both of them.

  2. Too long.. by Travis+Mansbridge · · Score: 0

    Didn't read

  3. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't apply to me. Perhaps because I don't skim articles and read the entire thing.

    1. Re:Hmm... by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      Doesn't apply to me. Perhaps because I don't skim articles and read the entire thing.

      You're on the wrong site.

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    2. Re:Hmm... by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      I can do both with no problem. I suspect that the ability to easily switch is a learned skill also.

      It may also have something to do with your background. The ability to skim large quantities of text and pull out relevant information was a useful skill long before it became digital.

    3. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you are. You don't belong where intelligent conversations occur, troll. Especially here on slashdot. Everyone knows you're just some troll that lurks around here causing trouble with your lame 1 line trolling replies.

  4. Re:Its called evolution.. by kruach+aum · · Score: 4, Informative

    No it's called neuroplasticity, here's a wikipedia link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...

  5. Efficiency by Jenerick · · Score: 0, Insightful

    As a culture have improved our speed-reading skills? I don't see how this is a problem, especially as a student who can apply these concepts and skills to textbooks. Disclaimer: I skimmed this summary and TFA may address this.

    1. Re:Efficiency by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a culture have improved our speed-reading skills? I don't see how this is a problem, especially as a student who can apply these concepts and skills to textbooks. Disclaimer: I skimmed this summary and TFA may address this.

      The summary makes it clear that the 'problem' is that the improved skim reading may come at the expense of in-depth reading.

    2. Re:Efficiency by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      As a culture have improved our speed-reading skills? ... Disclaimer: I skimmed this summary and TFA may address this.

      Judging from your question and disclaimer: no.

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    3. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The summary makes it clear that the 'problem' is that the improved skim reading may come at the expense of in-depth reading.

      It is also the other way around.
      Since neither is natural it is also not necessarily the case that you can only be good at one. It just happens that it is easier for the brain to adapt the part of the brain that already does the reading into a skimming or an in-depth part. If you are brought up with both alternatives and learn to read in-depth at the same time as you learn to skim you might not get this problem at all.

    4. Re:Efficiency by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      ... improved skim reading may come at the expense of in-depth reading.

      TANSTAAFL

      If you want to be a really good visual reader, make yourself deaf, not temporarily with earplugs - though that helps a little, permanently, so the auditory processing centers atrophy and make way for development of other systems.

      I'm not saying it's a good trade overall, but it is one way to enable enhancement...

    5. Re:Efficiency by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I disagree, skimmed milk is not better than regular milk.

    6. Re:Efficiency by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      No, the summary made it clear that it appeared to be the case for one particular person. I, am I am sure, many others have no problem switching between the two.

      In particular, research may mean skimming many articles in a shallow manner to find the most relevant ones and then in-depth study of appropriate items.

  6. Ltetres odrer by x0ra · · Score: 5, Informative

    Acocdrnig to an elgnsih unviesitry sutdy the oredr of letetrs in a wrod dosen’t mttaer, the olny thnig thta’s iopmrantt is that the frsit and lsat ltteer of eevry word is in the crcreot ptoision. The rset can be jmbueld and one is stlil able to raed the txet wiohtut dclftfuiiy.

    1. Re:Ltetres odrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This age old internet legend is not exactly true.

    2. Re:Ltetres odrer by tommten · · Score: 5, Funny

      Acocdrnig to an elgnsih unviesitry sutdy the oredr of letetrs in a wrod dosen’t mttaer, the olny thnig thta’s iopmrantt is that the frsit and lsat ltteer of eevry word is in the crcreot ptoision. The rset can be jmbueld and one is stlil able to raed the txet wiohtut dclftfuiiy.

      Accordian to an elkish un-visitry, subtle the oreo of lettuce in a wood doesn't mate, the owl-thing hates iops-rant, is that the fist and salt litter of every word in concrete poison. the rest can be a jumbojet and one is slit able to dear the extew king tut in a flurry. Sure thing!

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    3. Re:Ltetres odrer by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Acocdrnig to an elgnsih unviesitry sutdy the oredr of letetrs in a wrod dosen’t mttaer, the olny thnig thta’s iopmrantt is that the frsit and lsat ltteer of eevry word is in the crcreot ptoision. The rset can be jmbueld and one is stlil able to raed the txet wiohtut dclftfuiiy.

      In other words, Spelling Nazis have no more a justified job these days than real Nazis.

    4. Re:Ltetres odrer by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wrote a script to do that:
      http://dexsoft.com/wordscrambl...

      Thing is, once you start throwing lots of more robust text in there (excerpt from a book, etc), it becomes very apparent that it really only works with simple, common words. Once you start using proper nouns and more diverse vocabulary, it becomes very difficult to read the scrambled text. Also, the way the words are scrambled makes a big difference too. I ran your text through my scrambler a few times, and some of the results were harder to read than others.

      Here's the summary scrambled, and there are parts that can be read pretty easily, but then there are words that simply can't be read "automatically" and you have to sit and think about them.

      Meiahcl S. Rlwosnead rtoreps in the Wnasitgohn Psot taht, adrnioccg to covniitge ntesenucoiirtss, haumns seem to be dopnvileeg daigtil binras wtih new crtiuics for simnkimg torhguh the trneort of irfianoomtn oinlne at the eespnxe of taadinrtiol deep ridneag ctucirriy... Mraaynne Wlof, one of the wlrod's fsmoroet exptres on the stduy of rnadieg, was stretlad last yaer to divseocr her bairn was aertpnalpy antiadpg, too. After a day of srincollg tghoruh the Web and hdedruns of e-malis, she sat dwon one enenvig to raed Hearmnn Hsese's ciannlhgleg nvoel The Galss Baed Gmae. 'I'm not kniddig: I cdluon't do it,' syas Wlof. 'It was troture getitng touhgrh the fisrt page. I cdouln't fcroe msyelf to solw down so taht I wsan't siknmmig, pciinkg out key wdors, ognranizig my eye moetvnems to geantere the most ifianotromn at the hsiehgt seped. I was so digsutsed wtih mylesf.'

      The bairn was not dseengid for riaendg and trhee are no geens for radenig lkie three are for lauaggne or vioisn. ... Bfeore the Irntneet, the barin raed mtlosy in leianr wyas — one pgae led to the nxet pgae, and so on. The Inntreet is deneiffrt. With so mcuh iorfainomtn, hpyernilked txet, vedois asldgonie wdors and ireittntavciy eewvhrerye, our branis form suothcrts to dael wtih it all — snnicang, sinhcaerg for key wdros, srlclnoig up and down qilkcuy. Tihs is naneoilnr rnieadg, and it has been dmteucnoed in amcadiec sduetis. ... Some rseahrcrees bilveee taht for mnay polepe, tihs sytle of rneaidg is bnngiieng to idnave our abiltiy to dael wtih otehr mdeuims. 'We're seinpndg so mcuh tmie tincohug, psuinhg, liinnkg, sinlolcrg and junipmg toughrh txet taht wehn we sit dwon wtih a nveol, yuor daliy hbatis of jpmuing, ccilnikg, lniikng is jsut iareingnd in you,' syas Anerdw Dloiln."

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    5. Re:Ltetres odrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When loose things get lost you'll be grateful to us.

    6. Re:Ltetres odrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The next person who deliberately misspells a word is going to get a taste of concrete poison, and no mistake.

    7. Re:Ltetres odrer by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 2

      Faaitnstc Psot! Thkans for bnieg one of the poelpe who add vluae to Ssdlaoht!

    8. Re:Ltetres odrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe scrambled words within sentences these days may actually help individual's with this problem understand what's being read. It requires skim readers to be alert and aware of what they are reading, enforcing their understanding of the material while being read.

      Our minds are huge hash tables.

    9. Re:Ltetres odrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This breaks down the moment you start using words like "Mississippi".

    10. Re:Ltetres odrer by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Pfft! In the old days when someone posted the text of the article to the comments it was called karma whoring...

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    11. Re:Ltetres odrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for demonstrating the flaw in this argument.

    12. Re:Ltetres odrer by cavebison · · Score: 1

      Acocdrnig to an elgnsih unviesitry sutdy

      This is interesting... as a programmer, I read every word of that smoothly, but stumbled on the word "rset", which my brain interpreted as "RESET". I had to go back and read it again, because the phrase "the reset can jumbled" didn't make sense. Interesting. Makes me wonder if there's something specifically about English which makes this work for us, or if it also works in other phonetic languages.

      And does it work for everyone, or just with people who read by "sounding" the words in their mind as they read? Do some people read by visual mapping instead?

  7. Moving from Ebooks to Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've found that as I read older, non-digitized books, I want to touch the page to click on an obscure word to find its definition. I teach, and it's interesting/surprising/disappointing to see how many of my students never learned how to use a paper dictionary because they could always put a word into a search field.

    1. Re:Moving from Ebooks to Paper by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Most of them will never learn to ride a horse because they can always use a car, is that also interesting/surprising/disappointing?

    2. Re:Moving from Ebooks to Paper by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 1

      I very rarely used a dictionary as a kid, and when I took my college entrance placement exam, they gave me this huge obscure vocabulary test and I got 100% on it. I think just having good context-clue-finding skills can really be a huge benefit to vocabulary acquisition. I remember my elementary school teachers harping about context clues every time someone asked what a word meant, and now I'm super glad that they did, because it's caused me to learn a lot of words just from reading a lot. I've been living in a Spanish speaking country for the past 6 months, and those skills have been a huge help in learning a foreign language as well.

    3. Re:Moving from Ebooks to Paper by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 1

      sorry to reply to my own post, but I just thought of another anecdotal piece of information. I had heard of kids with terrible vocabulary and spelling skills who spent a Summer Vacation reading lots of books coming back to school with fantastic writing skills. Just seeing and hearing correct usage can build the patterns in our brains for correct usage and grammar. Many foreign-language-learning experts (not the Rosetta Stone people -- the people actually learning all kinds of language) recommend high quantities of almost-comprehensible input in order to stretch your language abilities.

    4. Re:Moving from Ebooks to Paper by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      It helps, though I've also had moments where someone asks me about a word and I can say, "Well, I can give you three sentences that use it in ways I see a lot, but I'm a little fuzzy on the precise definition." Context gets you close, but not always all the way there.

    5. Re:Moving from Ebooks to Paper by Ziggitz · · Score: 1

      They'll also never use a slide rule.

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  8. I've been doing it the other way by Leuf · · Score: 2

    All that moving and whatnot gets adapted real quick with NoScript. I can still read books just fine but looking at cnn.com without NoScript I can't do.

  9. Skimming is part of the Graduate's life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many of you actually read each and every word of the tens, if not the hundreds of books and journals that are in the "must read list" hand to students by the professors in our graduate studies ?

    Learning how to skim through the thick tomes while picking up useful info was the first thing I learned.

    That was before Al Gore announced his "Information Superhiway".

  10. newspaper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is this really something that's only been occurring with the advent of the internet? It might have exacerbated things, but we've already been doing this for ages with newspapers.

  11. The world is changing. by drolli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    get over it.

    I am a fast reader (>400words per minute), and when i skim a screenful of information or code I exceed this significantly.

    There are some things which you need to understand:

    * Reading may be fast, but comprehending may be tricky. If a page of code contains a tricky algorithm, it can take a week

    * Classic literature (for which my speed drops below 200 word per minute) is not structured for being read quickly. If may be structured to model a thought process, or even a pattern of spoken language. Take your time to read it, and accept it.

    * Literature often has dialogues, or reflections of dialogues. keepign two viepoints necessarily disrupts your reading speed. Books which have a lot of decription of though processes or viewpoints of characters contain more information. The more brilliant of these books manage to refer indirectly to the processes and let you infer a large part of what is going on (e.g. "Midnights Chrildren"). Obviously the limiting factor is not reading, but understanding.

    1. Re:The world is changing. by axlash · · Score: 2

      "Reading may be fast, but comprehending may be tricky."

      But what really is reading without comprehension? That's just like moving my eyeballs across a page and having my brain register black glyphs on a white background.

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    2. Re:The world is changing. by drolli · · Score: 1

      Well. In very structured matter (e.g. scientific articles) you can actually skip the introduction if you are from the field. In code you can skip organizational code which dont need to understand. And in newspaper articles you can often turn of the brain for 80% of the article if you already know the context,

    3. Re:The world is changing. by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am a fast reader (>400words per minute), and when i skim a screenful of information or code I exceed this significantly.

      I'm always skeptical of people clamining superhigh reading speeds. I mean, yeah I can skim easy text to and just "float" above it, but what about when comprehension and understanding are required; like when you read a biology or math text and other such material you haven't encountered before? What good does reading speed help there if it goes in one eye and out the other, so to speak??

    4. Re:The world is changing. by RDW · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I took a speed reading course where you run your finger down the middle of the page and was able to read 'War and Peace' in twenty minutes. It's about Russia."

    5. Re:The world is changing. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Merely reading at 400 words per minute is trivial. Reading *some kinds* of materials at 400 words per minute is a problem. I guess Amdahl's law is sort of universal.

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    6. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're not reading fast then -- but skipping, liberally.

    7. Re:The world is changing. by drolli · · Score: 2

      Yes. Thats the distinction i make. Some written material is for "really skipping" some material is for "skimming for infromation" and some material is for reading. Not confusing one with the other is important and will save you frustration.

    8. Re:The world is changing. by drolli · · Score: 4, Informative

      400 Words per minute is by no way "super-high".

      From http://www.forbes.com/sites/br...

      Third-grade students = 150 words per minute (wpm)
      Eight grade students = 250
      Average college student = 450
      Average âoehigh level execâ = 575
      Average college professor = 675
      Speed readers = 1,500
      World speed reading champion = 4,700
      Average adult: 300 wpm

      From my education i am roughly at "Average College Professor". And 400 wpm was a conservative estimation of mine.

      You could ask my colleagues about me regularly correcting semantic and syntactic mistakes in pages of code which i never saw before in minutes without running the program.

      You could ask my boss about me analyzing typical presentations in about 5-10seconds per slide and yet remembering more of the specific content than people who sit for half an hour in front of it and never even penetrate the surface.

      You could ask my coworkers about me reading abstracts of scientific papers in less than 5seconds and classifying them as interesting or not (did that when i did a group-internal rss feed on our topic).

    9. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We could, but I don't think anyone gives a shit.

    10. Re:The world is changing. by clickety6 · · Score: 1

      Average Ãoe high level exec à = 575

      From my education i am roughly at "Average College Professor".

      regularly correcting semantic and syntactic mistakes in pages of code which i never saw before

      did that when i did a group-internal rss

      Doesn't seem to work for spelling mistakes and typos though ;)

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    11. Re:The world is changing. by impossiblefork · · Score: 1

      I remember reading Rudin's little analysis book and reading it on the principle that it was appropriate to stay on each page for about 30 minutes, or until all proofs were remembered and could be reproduced at will, following a recommendation of some famous mathematician whose name I can't recall (but for some reason I think that it was Hardy or Littlewood).

      There's also apparently such a recommendation in Axler's linear algebra book, but there the recommendation is that one should take no less than an hour per page. I think that this recommendation may be excessive though and I don't think that either of these should be followed strictly for all pages, but they're a good warning for seeing that one is trying to read too fast.

    12. Re:The world is changing. by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      Average Ãoe high level exec à = 575

      Doesn't seem to work for spelling mistakes and typos though ;)

      To be fair the high level exec thing looks more like Slashdot barfing at Unicode, it was copied and pasted from the linked website.

    13. Re:The world is changing. by drolli · · Score: 1

      Wow. I presume another English native speaker picking on spelling mistakes in a quickly typed comment in a foreign language?

    14. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could ask my coworkers about me reading abstracts of scientific papers in less than 5seconds

      You need 5 seconds to read an abstract? Pfff, I do it in 1 second.

    15. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Had a teacher which tested our class repeatedly in 11th grade. I read at 735 wpm with 90% comprehension. Two other people in the class read at 715 wpm with the same or higher comprehension. Of course that was with the fluff texts provided. Yes the speed slows down with complex material but even reading complex material I still read very fast.

      Having a fast reading speed even if it goes in one eye and out the other allows you to skim material for the relevant section you need then slow down and comprehend it. There was an incident in English class where we were taking a test on Heart of Darkness. The test question was: What is the significance of the pit outside X (cant remember the name, thats the kind of thing lost in reading fast, the actual name doesnt matter to the meaning) town? I had read the book but completely missed the pit. Started at the beginning and skimmed the first hundred pages or so in about 15 minutes till I found the 2 line paragraph that mentioned the pit. Read it and the text around it and wrote the essay. Without being able to read the preceding text in one eye and out the other I would have had nothing to write about.

    16. Re:The world is changing. by asylumx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hate to say it, but if you're going to post about how great you are, you should expect people to pick you apart on any internet forum, including Slashdot.

    17. Re:The world is changing. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      We need RSVP. RSVP allows for reading at 400wpm with full comprehension, 800wpm with full comprehension after 1 hour of training. 1000wpm is a normal target, and speeds as high as 1200-1600wpm are doable. Some modified algorithms have produced 1800+wpm reading speeds, including Spritz and Sprint Reader methods where they align based on word length and provide context pauses. I've envisioned some more advanced techniques myself for the interleaving of information and context sensitivity, for example to show diagrams or to slow down when introducing new concepts or covering recent ones.

      The future is not skimming. The future is high-speed immersive full-comprehension sequential visual presentation.

    18. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or I could just ask you about your propensity to get in dick-waving contests on the Internet.

    19. Re:The world is changing. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      400 wpm is not high. Last speedreading test I took I hit 6-something. And I'm not that fast a reader.

      But yes, that's English text, conveying possibly new ideas and/or facts. When I read a math text I don't achieve that speed.

      I do wonder whether it's new paradigms that build on one another or the equations that make a difference. I have a few old Calc books around, maybe I should try speedreading them.

      But in general, you can retain what is written if it's the kind of writing in a newspaper.

      I can rip through a John Grisham novel in no time, but I'm currently reading "The Count of Monte Cristo". That is taking some time.

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    20. Re:The world is changing. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Merely reading at 400 words per minute is trivial. Reading *some kinds* of materials at 400 words per minute is a problem. I guess Amdahl's law is sort of universal.

      Reading TMZ at 400 words per minute is seriously absorbing the material.

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    21. Re:The world is changing. by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      I remember being assigned 40 pages of reading. Per class. Due in two days. With four classes, that'd be 160 hours of work every 48 hours. Perhaps my texts weren't as dense as Axler's?

    22. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You said you can correct mistakes at extreme speed while proving that you cannot. In native English, that is called lying.

    23. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could ask my colleagues about me regularly correcting semantic and syntactic mistakes in pages of code which i never saw before in minutes without running the program.

      You could ask my boss about me analyzing typical presentations in about 5-10seconds per slide and yet remembering more of the specific content than people who sit for half an hour in front of it and never even penetrate the surface.

      You could ask my coworkers about me reading abstracts of scientific papers in less than 5seconds and classifying them as interesting or not (did that when i did a group-internal rss feed on our topic).

      You could ask your mom about my regularly correcting her use of the gerund.

    24. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I took a speed reading class in college and what follows is my experience. Your speed reading rate is calculated by raw words per minute reduced by how well or poorly you do on a quiz at the end of the time period. Subjects that require more concentration will result in a lower overall wpm. Consuming alcohol during the break in a three-hour class, (who would do such a thing?), allows your raw wpm to increase but this is more than offset by loss of comprehension.

    25. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to have problems with typing too quickly, or rereading, though. All your posts have mistakes in them.
      -- Letter order Nazi

    26. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW I took it 3 times and got 740-860 when I took that a few weeks ago. I've read a lot (books and online) but consider myself to be pretty average intelligence compared to my colleagues (software developers).

    27. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still remember a page on a calculus book, it took me an entire week to read it 20 years ago

    28. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could ask my colleagues about me regularly correcting semantic and syntactic mistakes in pages of code which i never saw before in minutes without running the program.

      You could ask my boss about me analyzing typical presentations in about 5-10seconds per slide and yet remembering more of the specific content than people who sit for half an hour in front of it and never even penetrate the surface.

      You could ask my coworkers about me reading abstracts of scientific papers in less than 5seconds and classifying them as interesting or not (did that when i did a group-internal rss feed on our topic).

      This is the difference between reading books and reading structured information. You don't actually have to process the code because your brain is already wired to give you the most likely answers, but if you're reading a book your brain in general does not have enough clues to "fill in" the blanks.

    29. Re:The world is changing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow >400 wpm!! can i suck your cock?

      -said nobody ever

    30. Re:The world is changing. by Jmc23 · · Score: 0
      Why skeptical?

      In high school we had a reading class and while your speed was tested so was reading comprehension. Anyways, 400 words per minute is peanuts. That's about where I would slow down to get scores of 95% or higher on comprehension, usually having to do with irrelevant details. I found 3000wpm at ~80% comprehension ideal for skimming works to find the interesting bits.

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    31. Re:The world is changing. by Jmc23 · · Score: 0

      I remember reading Dianetics and L. Ron warning everybody not only to not read too fast but to not continue reading until every word and sentence was understood.

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    32. Re:The world is changing. by drolli · · Score: 1

      To my experience:

      not all pages in a single linear algebra book are created equal.

    33. Re:The world is changing. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      On a personal level, I once tried reading "Daughter of Fu Manchu as fast as I possibly could. I at least thought I was reading the whole thing (at about 1200 wpm), but when I'd finished I remembered that it was a story with some Chinese bad guys, and not much more.

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    34. Re:The world is changing. by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I max out at about 800wpm with full comprehension, but can skim much faster -- a skill learned in high school history class, where the trick was to pick out the highlights from the wall of uninspired text. Conversely, I may read a book with a leisurely pace at a similarly relaxed speed. And yeah, I've found that people who read slowly do not grok that some people can process print that fast.

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    35. Re:The world is changing. by Reziac · · Score: 1

      That's another good point, and I've known people who did not distinguish. One function of skimming is to find out if it's worth your while to read carefully... read everything carefully and you waste a lot of time and effort.

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  12. I have this "problem" by linuxguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been doing this since usenet days. I got hooked to newsgroups early. I was about 18 years old and this was 1990. I have not been able to read ordinary books since then. I can read technical books just fine. The kind that pack a lot of information. I have tried several times, but have utterly failed to read fiction. Something inside me tells me that I am wasting my time. Not that I don't waste time. I do that a lot. I watch plenty of movies, TV, hang out with friends and family etc. etc. and I "skim the Internet" a tonne. I have a good job, wife and two kids. It is not entirely clear to me how this "problem" is hurting me.

    1. Re:I have this "problem" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have a very similar thing. I can read a technical book all day long and not get bored or annoyed. With a fiction books it is different, I just feel I'm wasting my time and I can't understand people who go through many books a week. I've been using the Internet since I was very young and have always read a lot online. I remember in school I could never get into fiction and would always do my book reports on factual books and loan factual books from the library. I don't feel like I'm being hurt either, my life is satisfying and I have everything I need.

    2. Re:I have this "problem" by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      I have the exact same "history" as you do (18 years old in 1990), and starting when I was 16 I got into dialing up BBSs and reading lots of messages in that kind of format. Then of course on to usenet and email in college and prolific reading of thousands of messages a week. My ability to read "books" hasn't been affected at all. I don't know if it was because I was already a prolific reader (I read the Hardy Boys books as fast as I could get my mom to buy them for me when I was younger - she made the mistake of saying she would keep buying them as long as I kept reading them, but eventually had to limit me to 2 a week). I still read a fair amount (just finished the Dark Tower series), and again, I've not had any ill affects from my daily large consumption of online fragments of information.

      So this must affect different people in different ways.

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    3. Re:I have this "problem" by Pollux · · Score: 1

      It is not entirely clear to me how this "problem" is hurting me.

      George Burns was believed to have smoked 10-15 cigars every day of his life for about 70 years. He died at the age of 100. I'm sure it's not entirely clear to him how this "problem" of smoking was hurting him. (And he commonly joked about doctors advising him to stop smoking, often with a punchline like, "And the last doctor died 20 years ago.")

      George Burns is just one anecdote, and one not representative of the common whole. The question we need to ask is not, "how is this problem hurting me." We should be asking, "how is this problem hurting us." And I would agree with the author; we stand to lose a lot.

      If you are able, though it sounds like you may not be, I suggest you read Fahrenheit 451. Bradbury imagines a world incapable of deep thought resulting from the absence of books. I found it very enlightening.

    4. Re:I have this "problem" by nblender · · Score: 1

      I had to check the username to make sure I didn't post that... Except I got hooked on Usenet in 1985... But alas... I haven't "read" a book in probably 15 years... I do miss those days.. My wife and I used to vacation at a cabin on a lake... We'd pack a bin-box full of books and plow through the entire box in a week... Then I developed hobbies, we had a kid, bought our own cottage, and now if I'm not working on something, I feel like I'm wasting time... I'm trying to re-learn how to relax and hope to be able to read a book again soon. I'm also forcing myself to really _read_ long articles instead of skimming them...

      Problem I have when I read something long, is my mind wanders and I don't realize that's what's happened... I suddenly find myself 2 chapters beyond what I can last remember and I've been thinking about the oil leak on my truck, or what pattern I'm going to layout the kitchen backsplash....

    5. Re:I have this "problem" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay... what is it losing us?

      I see some enormous benefits here (lots of people able to take in much more information much faster, and hence become better at what they enjoy), but I don't really see what the downside is.

    6. Re:I have this "problem" by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I read tons of internet stuff and still get through 2 or 3 fiction books a week (at least). Speed depends on interest level.

      I do have trouble reading straight through technical stuff, I tend to use them for reference instead of reading straight through.

    7. Re:I have this "problem" by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I read on my phone when I am eating breakfast, or standing in line at the store. I can handle breaking a book into small sessions. Many people can't, but I find it works for me.

    8. Re:I have this "problem" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The assumption that reading a small number of long documents is required for deep thought and reading a large number of short documents can't produce deep thought is required to make your position true and has not really been established.

      It seems just as likely that the skills of creating short to the point documents as well as quickly evaluating documents for their content is being developed to deal with the larger amount of documents available, and that the skill of reading long documents may be increasingly obsolete (there exist shorter documents with the same content and a brain optimized for finding and reading them quickly them may be able to absorb more content in a period of time by discarding the longer ones in favor of the shorter ones).

      Most of the "we lose a lot" argument seems to be rooted in the idea that "the classics" are objectively good and that any aesthetic framework that evaluates them poorly is therefore flawed, which is at its core an appeal to antiquity.

  13. Not me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always pore through anything I read. I remember learning speed reading around middle or early high school and hating it. If something is worth reading, it's generally worth fully processing and thinking about while you read it. It's no wonder I frequently find myself having better recall of things I read and more fully grasping what the writer was trying to convey than those around me if everyone else is just skimming and speed reading.

  14. PARSE ERROR by BlackPignouf · · Score: 1

    PARSE ERROR:
    "Michael S. Rosenwald was so disgusted with myself.'
    The brain was not designed for reading Andrew Dillon."

    Wait, what??? Could you please write shorter paragraphs?

  15. look ahead by shamim063 · · Score: 1

    well, look ahead.

  16. Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She could have just picked a book that is not boring.

    1. Re:Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Glass Bead Game was the most challenging book I've ever attempted to read, mostly because of that: it's boring a shit, and half of it is written as a joke perpetrated on the reader. As a novel, it's a piece of shit. If you understand the context of the book, and the obscure references, and the author's personal struggle for whogivesashit, it is more readable, but still not entertaining.

      Occam's Razor says that the way we read is not changing; the book just sucks.

  17. Evelyn Woodhead speed reading by bigtreeman · · Score: 2

    Are you old enough to remember this

    http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Ev...

    I did the speed reading course when I was 14, still couldn't read Shakespeare, ah well.

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  18. synopsis by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

    skim, reading, brain, wolf, circuit

  19. Designed? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The brain was not designed for reading

    It wasn't designed for anything.

    And who's to say the invention of writing hasn't already had some impact on human evolution? I know it hasn't been long in the grand scheme of things, but moths didn't take long to adapt to the industrial revolution.

    there are no genes for reading like there are for language or vision

    Well, there are genes which have an impact on language development if faulty or missing, but are they necessarily "genes for language"?

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    1. Re:Designed? by kruach+aum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Moths also had a much harsher selection pressure. Maybe we would see similar results if we killed anyone over the age of 10 who couldn't read at a 12th grade level.

    2. Re:Designed? by gargleblast · · Score: 1, Troll

      The brain was not designed for reading

      It wasn't designed for anything.

      Beg pardon but the brain was designed for survival of the genotype, just like the rest of the organism. It just wasn't designed by who-you-think-it-wasn't.

      There are genes which have an impact on language development if faulty or missing, but are they necessarily "genes for language"?

      You betcha. A rather well-established survival strategy among humans is spoken language. A newer and less-well-established strategy is written language. It's those new things that undergo the most rapid natural selection. So yeah, "genes for language".

    3. Re:Designed? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    4. Re:Designed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beg pardon but the brain was designed for survival of the genotype, just like the rest of the organism. It just wasn't designed by who-you-think-it-wasn't.

      Saying that it was "designed" is ridiculous in and of itself.

    5. Re:Designed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, i much rather enjoy the euphoria of being so lucky as to have been born in the one 10^32 parallel universe where i actually enjoy reading slashdot.
      Well, posting i mean.

    6. Re:Designed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News flash: we already hashed out the early, crude, violent versions of the eugenics debate, and the public has spoken. Hitler lost.

    7. Re:Designed? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Careful! I got his newsletter. It had a complex paragraph on the front cover and almost self-destructed if I didn't read it fast enough!

    8. Re:Designed? by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      digital brains with new circuits

      Frakkin Cylon Toasters

    9. Re:Designed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are brain pathways that evolved specifically to handle vision processing. If they don't receive any vision input they can partially take over sound processing and similar, but they're highly optimized for vision. As far as I know, there are no naturally grown brain areas optimized for reading. As you learn to read part of your brain will end up specialized at reading, but that's not the same as having that area specialized from the start like vision is.

      So yes, the brain is designed (evolved) for vision but not for reading. Luckily, it's evolved for adaptability so we can learn to read. While babies' vision is blurry at the start, we don't have to study to learn to see.

    10. Re:Designed? by Art3x · · Score: 1

      The brain was not designed for reading

      It wasn't designed for anything.

      It is preprogrammed for learning spoken language. You might read Stephen Pinker's The Language Instinct.

    11. Re:Designed? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      It is preprogrammed for learning spoken language. You might read Stephen Pinker's The Language Instinct.

      Or I might not. I'm well aware that the brain has evolved in such a way as to facilitate the development of language skills.

      It still wasn't designed to do it. It's just a positive feedback loop.

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    12. Re:Designed? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      It wasn't designed for anything.

      Similarly, it's not quite correct to refer to something we're observing a kiloparsec away as happening now. We're trying to avoid saying things like "3.26 millenia ago last Tuesday the luminosity peaked" - except that that's only from the reference frame we usually use, meaning that other observers would have different observations, and we're ludicrously combining a date not specified to a given year with one given to single-day accuracy. The luminosity peaked last Tuesday - is that a problem?

      We could say "the brain evolved in ways that did not specifically favor reading", or we could say 'the brain wasn't designed for reading". The second is clearer. The brain does have a design, of sorts, even if there was no designer. Alternatively, you could say the design was created by a stochastic process.

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  20. No its not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the fact most people have not read a book since school and then they only read books because they were forced to.

  21. Speed reading by schreiend · · Score: 1

    I had been learning it about 20 years ago; developing ability to cherry-pick key words and to absorb the _rough_ meaning of the whole page in a couple of seconds was one of the keystones of the technique. They promised it won't hurt when reading fiction, but it actually turned into inability to enjoy the reading itself. On the other hand, it did help to digest tons of technical books, so I'm not complaining.

  22. "Digital" by rebelwarlock · · Score: 1

    That word doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

    1. Re:"Digital" by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Funny

      That word doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

      He's developing brains in his fingers

    2. Re:"Digital" by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Hey, I read braille, you insensitive clod!

  23. Purposefully slowing down by Ozoner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I notice this as well.

    I enjoy recreational reading very much, but notice that I must make a definite effort to slow down so that I better appreciate the book.

  24. SYNTAX ERROR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    SYNTAX ERROR

  25. Not a significant test ... by Rudisaurus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I read Hesse's "The Glass Bead Game" long before the Internet even existed, and it was completely fucking opaque even back then.

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    1. Re:Not a significant test ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit. I just tried to Favourite this twee...uhm, post.

    2. Re:Not a significant test ... by turp182 · · Score: 1

      I've read everything by Hermann Hesse but The Glass Bead Game. I have never been able to get more than 50 pages into it.

      He does have a nice collection of short stories which are easier on the brain.

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  26. I couldn't agree less by go-nix.ca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It depends on the book. I for one started reading Arthur C Clarke's Rama series, and I couldn't put it down.

    1. Re:I couldn't agree less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never could for the life of me understand why the Rama books got a relatively bad rap. They're at least as good as his Odyssey books. Maybe not a patch on Foundation for theme and plot or Heinlein's sparkling dialogue, but still. Clarke was the happy medium of the future.

    2. Re:I couldn't agree less by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      His Rama book is pretty good. It's the travesties that were written by other people that followed which are the problem (III much moreso than II)

    3. Re:I couldn't agree less by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      There was a Rama video game in the mid-90s which seemed to suck. I had it. A bit pretentious, lifeless and too many CD-ROM reads for its own good ; I never got far then forgot about it.

  27. glass bead game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They played marbles, then made a necklace with those beads.

  28. It's not taking over "the human brain" by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's taking over the brains of those who participate 24/7 in, for lack of a better word, might be called the Twittersphere. I'm not condemning Twitter in general, but the entire weltanschauung of the situation that people like Maryanne Wolfe live in. Anyone who doesn't exist in this false world (i.e. most of humanity) doesn't have this experience at all. They're able to read deep texts, and you bet your ass they'll be ready to supplant these feeble minds in the future.

    The really scary part is that these Twitter minds lack the ability to see outside themselves. If it happens to me, then it happens to all of humanity. After all, all the people I know are in the Twittersphere, and that's the whole world...or at least the world worth knowing. Because if Maryanne Wolfe can't do it, that means the human brain is changing. Sad...but then again I find myself understanding why civilizations that have everything fall. It comes from taking it all for granted and neglecting the first principles that got us here...like realizing the world has an independent existence outside of you and your little buddies.

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    1. Re:It's not taking over "the human brain" by ReeceTarbert · · Score: 4, Informative

      The really scary part is that these Twitter minds lack the ability to see outside themselves. If it happens to me, then it happens to all of humanity.

      Worse yet, the article uses the plural "researchers" but quotes none except Mrs Wolf who, in turn, is just relating her own experience rather than any factual research. Examples:

      Researchers are working to get a clearer sense of the differences [...]

      Before the Internet, the brain read mostly in linear ways [...] researchers said.

      Some researchers believe that for many people [...]

      Researchers say that the differences between text and screen reading should be studied more thoroughly [...]

      But, hey, who needs to refer to any research when you can fill an article with anecdotal evidence from Claire Handscombe, Brandon Ambrose, and Ramesh Kurup? I mean, that should plenty to convince anyone, no? ;-)

      RT

    2. Re:It's not taking over "the human brain" by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Then again, everything is relative.

      Let's remember that the OP is a person who would willingly pick up and read The Glass Bead Game in the first place; this isn't light, popular reading - not like it was a choice "Do I read Twilight or something from Hermann Hesse?"

      For the twitterverse that you comment on, this may sound patronizing but: these morons wouldn't ever have been readers ANYWAY. Ever. It's not like the twitter-morph has prevented them from being deep-thinkers.

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    3. Re:It's not taking over "the human brain" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pot, kettle, black. This has nothing to do with "the Twittersphere" but it does have a lot to do with a selection bias that "because if [person] [does/doesn't] do it, that means [some group/some thing] is [changing/different/isolated]". Your attitude of "us vs them" doesn't help things. Certainly, there are plenty of people in "the Twittersphere" who are so self-absorbed to take their own experience as a model of what all of humanity is going through, but that's because *those* people are of that nature regardless of where they are or what they're doing. Just like you (and admittedly I as well) tend to want to generalize and berate others for being that way.

      In any case, your vitriol of the situation just undermines the situation because it misplaces the issue as if it's the time, place, or technology that matters. Well, that's Maryanne Wolfe's argument in a way too, and you're both wrong.

    4. Re:It's not taking over "the human brain" by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      "But, hey, who needs to refer to any research when you can...."....find an anecdote of someone who has trouble reading a boring, difficult book?

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  29. It's called Intelligent Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    God wanted us to read faster so we don't remember as much so we don't question his authority as much.

  30. This is not special to the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Even before the internet, there were books and magazines you typically skimmed through. You read a pulp romance and Ulysses at different speeds..

  31. Re:Its called evolution.. by master5o1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dammit man, you made me break from reading the comments and into the Wikipedia article. Throwing my brain around like that gets confusing.

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  32. Does it matter? by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1
    Maybe we are adapting to skimming, filtering, and jumping from source to source of information.

    Given that this is the way the (modern?) real world works, I don't see it as a problem.

    The only drawback is the sentimental loss of no longer being able to sit down and be completely focused on a single thing for any length of time. Whilst this may be a shame, the fact is that such an activity these days is purely recreational and probably impractical for most people anyway. Time has moved on and so should we.

    File this under "buggy whips".

  33. Do both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Skim first to get the gist and then deep read to really grok it and then I'll skim again sections I really want to retain. Trying to deep read the same material again within a few months just doesn't happen with me - my mind wanders.

    That's why it helps me to read different authors on the same topic and deep skim and deep read each if I REALLY want to master a topic.

  34. Skimming is nothing new by Misagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was surprised when I was a kid back 25 years ago, that my dad could skim through text very fast.
    He worked as a journalist, and as such he was used to skimming through a lot of text to find the good bits that he could use as leads and sources for his articles.

    The difference to the Internet today, is just that more people are exposed to larger amounts of many different types of text, just like "text-workers" like my dad was back then.

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    1. Re:Skimming is nothing new by geekmux · · Score: 1

      I was surprised when I was a kid back 25 years ago, that my dad could skim through text very fast. He worked as a journalist, and as such he was used to skimming through a lot of text to find the good bits that he could use as leads and sources for his articles.

      The difference to the Internet today, is just that more people are exposed to larger amounts of many different types of text, just like "text-workers" like my dad was back then.

      No the real difference between "back then" and today was the fact that your Dad's requirement to skim through text was limited to his job.

      Now you come home and you're inundated with 400 cable channels, of which there are a dozen of each for sports, news, music, and movies.

      You open up your email, and you're bombarded with targeted ads and spam, along with two dozen emails to go through. And that's before you even start digging into your social media and its entire skimming culture.

      It is this very hyperexcited environment around us 24/7 that is the real difference today. You're right, speed reading or skimming is hardly new. Where we are being forced to use it, is.

  35. Re:Its called evolution.. by einyen · · Score: 3, Funny

    I caught myself skimming the wikipedia article, and suddenly realized the irony.

  36. Hmm... Guess my brain is weird. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 2

    I've always been able to switch it on and off just fine, even after spending the vast majority of the past 15 years sitting at a computer, on the internet.

    I skim through things at great speed when they don't really interest me, or I'm mostly looking for specific pieces of information, but it's never prevented me from being able to change gears and linearly read something...

    And I'm not by any stretch of the imagination a patient person (or particularly disciplined, for that matter) so it's certainly not because I'm making a conscious effort *not* to skim when I read linearly.

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    1. Re:Hmm... Guess my brain is weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In the case when I do read something I'm interested in too hastily and don't fully comprehend what's it's trying to tell me I just read it again.

      And again, and I'll grind my gears until I can't process it.

  37. Movies as well by Catmeat · · Score: 1

    It's not just reading.


    I think I only ever sit through a movie from beginning to end at the cinema. I can't remember the last time I watched something on a computer without dragging the progress-bar cursor past a bit I found less engaging.

  38. Re:Its called evolution.. by similar_name · · Score: 1

    Online Skim Reading Is Taking Over the Feline Brain

    Better title.

  39. Why, yes it does. by Camael · · Score: 1

    Maybe we are adapting to skimming, filtering, and jumping from source to source of information.
    Given that this is the way the (modern?) real world works, I don't see it as a problem.
    The only drawback is the sentimental loss of no longer being able to sit down and be completely focused on a single thing for any length of time. Whilst this may be a shame, the fact is that such an activity these days is purely recreational and probably impractical for most people anyway. Time has moved on and so should we.

    Amassing more data from diverse sources is in no way superior to gaining deep insight/understanding by focusing on, and thinking through a particular topic. Have you ever had an argument over the internet with someone who doesn't even understand the fundamentals of what he's arguing about, whose response is to blindly regurgitate what others have correctly or wrongly posted elsewhere, whose stock reply is "But this website says..."? That is a product of this skimming culture.

    When you skim sources, do you remember the details of what you read a day later, a week later? I know I don't, and I'll wager many others don't either hence the popularity of keeping bookmarks, saving files, apps like Pocket etc.

    If we don't even remember the details, how can we ever formulate anything beyond a superficial understanding of what we skimmed? It's a safe bet that Newton would not have been able to write the Mathematica Principia if he skimmed mathematics texts. I'm certain you would not like it if your doctor skimmed his medical texts in med school. I don't think you will be happy if your lawyer skimmed through law journals while preparing for your case.

    Skimming has its uses, but loss of focus is not the 'sentimental loss' you claim it to be. There will be times when you want yourself, and the people you deal with, to be focused like a laser.

    1. Re:Why, yes it does. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a product of this skimming culture.

      It's a product of stupidity, and similar things have been happening for a very long time.

      Kids these days...

      When you skim sources, do you remember the details of what you read a day later, a week later?

      Understanding and memorization are often different things. I remember only crucial details (such as my understanding of why some math equation works), but don't spend my time memorizing details like a memorization monkey; that's a complete waste of time, but the public schools system wants you to do exactly that. Plenty of information simply does not need to be memorized, and you're wasting your time if you do it.

      It's a safe bet that Newton would not have been able to write the Mathematica Principia if he skimmed mathematics texts.

      Maybe if it was skimmed improperly, but if you know how to look for important information, that's just not going to happen.

      I'm certain you would not like it if your doctor skimmed his medical texts in med school. I don't think you will be happy if your lawyer skimmed through law journals while preparing for your case.

      If done properly, I wouldn't really care. All I care about is whether or not they can do the job, and do it well.

  40. Yep, already noticed it. by Bruinwar · · Score: 1

    I was skimming through some blogs the other day & realized I hadn't actually read any of them. No great loss, they were just blog posts. Another thing I've noticed is my book consumption appears to be lower than it was once. No I did not rtfa but I did carefully read the summary, carefully. It took direct effort to do it. All said & done, I am still reading complete books & now I am planning to make more of on effort to take more time to read.

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  41. Neural flaw called "disinterest" by IriArendt · · Score: 2

    Yeah, me too I would have chosen to read a second time The Glass Bead Game if I wanted to make that point, or maybe Musil’s The Man Without Qualities. Don’t misunderstand me, I love Hesse and I read it all, ten years ago. Here is the flaw: anyone here used to read a lot and still reading a lot of novels or essays would have suffer attention troubles trying to get through that book, as “challenging” it may be, if his or her actual interests and questionings don’t merge with theses of the book. Yes the brain is rewiring itself when we’re browsing fresh news on the internet, jumping from “Nature” to “Io9”, checking “IEET page” on Facebook while writing a comment on some Singularity blog, yes we are constantly creating new neural pathways, adapting to our (virtual and “high frequency trading” environment), but maybe she would have better tried to measure her remaining attention skills upon some essay or novel she’d never have read before and which’d have presented some direct interest. For instance, I never read Bilbo the hobbit, I admit it, don’t kill me. I tried once I had eleven yo and I didn’t like it, and it’s still just not my thing, even if I “know” it’s a huge cultural piece blabla. I still would not get through it if I had to try now. And it’s not because of my new adapted skimming neural circuits wired for the internet. It’s just because I don’t care, as challenging it may be. I recently devoured Henry Miller’s Rosy Crucifixion and made a second reading of Cioran’s All Gall Is Divided, without trouble focusing, even if I’m a huge and daily “internet resident.” I suggest she repeats the experiment reading an actual challenging novel/essay which could catch her interest and only If she did not read it once yet.

  42. Choose Your Own Adventure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The internet "reads" like one of those Choose Your Own Adventure books you find in childrens' libraries. You dont read those like you do novels. If you're having problems reading a novel after some exposure to the internet, the problem is most likely with the material being shitty, rather than "the intarwebz chanjed mah branes!"

  43. Funny by Adam+Jorgensen · · Score: 1

    All these people who can't read fiction because they can't skim it...Hilarious.

    And yet sad as well. Makes me think of Mockingbird by Walter Tevis...

  44. Re:Its called evolution.. by Cryacin · · Score: 4, Informative

    You may laugh, but I won't read novels by authors like Cormack McCarthy on anything but my kindle. Why? Because if there's a word I don't know, I push on it for a bit, and get the dictionary definition. Nothing has aggrandised my lexical ability as this humble feature.

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  45. Skim researching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems a bit ironical, the "research" on how people don't slow down to comprehend what they are reading is based on annecdotal evidence of someone's experience

  46. TLDR by Dave+Whiteside · · Score: 1

    NC

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  47. Confirmation bias. by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    Cognition ordinarily normalizes fragmented images, resolves meaning, and transfers information of nature between intelligences and surroundings. All reading is "skimming". We recoginze words as collections of letters not individual letters, considering the beginning and ends of the words more strongly, and this leads to our inability to see spelling mistakes easily, as in the second and last words of this sentance. The slower you "skim" the deeper the information you may be able to extract. There are patterns in words which skimming misses. Wordplay, alliteration, meter, even subtle repetition of concepts or phrases in different contexts, esp. for ironic or humorous effect; These do not lend themselves to skimming quickly. In fact, did you not skim the first sentence of this comment as one ordinarily does in reading, and miss the message the first letter of each word spelled out? One who frequently "skims" for such hidden messages would have recognized them. Point being: You are always "skimming" the information pool of reality, and humans can do so in many ways.

    The brain structures and visual systems of humans were not expressly designed for reading, but they do lend themselves to it otherwise we wouldn't write thus. The development of written (physically encoded) language is an emergent process. Were our vision very blurry up close perhaps we would all be reading and writing in braille. There are no genes for language. As a cyberneticist the problem I have with such genetic reductionist statements is that they ignore that life is full of emergent processes at every level. Consider that the brain was not designed for verbal language either. There are structures of the brain at various scales which are described ultimately by genes (and their emergent process of tissue shape forming) which happen to be suited for verbal language. As was with verbal language, given time and evolutionary pressure (eg: selection favoring the more literate and wealthy) the human genome will express complex emergent structures favorable for written language too. Evolution itself is an emergent process.

    While it is true the brain is good at quickly pattern matching among a field, the brain along with resolution of the eye and its near field focus are also very good at slowly picking out differences and concentrating on details. We are good at seeing movement of contrasting colors or brightness, and then zeroing in on the area of movement and picking out increasingly more detail to determine if said motion be wind among the trees, a prey, predator, or friend. If you skim a dense technical manual you will miss much of the pertinent information, just as ancestral hunters who only "skimmed" the plains, may find themselves on wild goose chases, or being hunted themselves instead. One could skim a manual or web page to discover the area one needs to focus, but in that subsection of data skimming isn't going to be useful so the other slower mode of detail comprehension will be employed. Furthermore, in "skimming" you may miss a critical detail and fall victim to a gotcha, like your ancestors may have missed the crouching camouflaged lion among the grass.

    Graphic designers know much about your cognitive vision systems, and they exploit them. Drawing in the eye first with contrasting brightness of shapes, adding subtle curves, color, and increasing detail to draw the eye deeper or in the desired directions. You find the gaudy jittering "You've Won!" ad to be annoying because you can't help but "skim" for movement between high contrasts in your visual field and have your attention drawn to it... Yet there is no singular gene for this essential evolutionarily advantageous behavior. See?

    Unlike when I "skim" a technical manual, fact heavy news feed or ramble heavy social statuses to zero in on information worth digesting, When I read novels when I read novels rich in artistic expression I do so for leisure and thus read at "slow" pace AKA normal verbal rate, or slower. I don't "skim" quickly then. Instead I

  48. I skimmed the article title. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Skyrim reading *is* changing the human brain. You can't be subjected to the language of dragons without developing the ability to shout people off a cliff.

  49. some people cannot read by umghhh · · Score: 1

    40ya most of us had only some other gray mass owners to talk to over whatever subject we worked on. the world has changed and now everybody has access the pipes - the result is that the average user of the pipes is well average (with or without a degree). The average human being cannot read with understanding anyway and does not see sense in going trough volumes of prose. It is not bad only different.

    1. Re:some people cannot read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people can't write either.

  50. It's called Intelligent Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Which is why the Bible is so long. I guess I don't get atheist humor.

  51. This is how I've always read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could never read the classics in school for this very reason (pre-Internet, even!). I do enjoy reading, but it is often a struggle because I get into scan/skim mode. Reading stuff on the Internet hasn't required much change in my reading style. :/

  52. It's making following instructions more difficult by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    I wrote up the instructions for assembling the Shapeoko (an open source / hardware CNC machine) and a recurring theme on the forums is people suggesting that such-and-such a hint / suggestion should be added to the text instructions --- and said text was already there:

    http://docs.shapeoko.com/zaxis...

    I did make the diagrams interactive, which at least cut eliminated the complaints that ``there are supposed to be 2 of part X in assembly Y, but only 1 is shown'':

    http://docs.shapeoko.com/conte...

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  53. Re:Its called evolution.. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    Nothing has aggrandised my lexical ability as this humble feature.

    But you still click "post" too soon... Would have preferred

    Nothing has aggrandised my lexical ability as this humble feature has.

    or, mayhaps:

    Nothing has aggrandised my lexical ability as much as this humble feature.

    You might argue preference of style, but life is too short to dwell on such trivia, isn't it?

  54. Skimmed to "Hugh Pickens",,, by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

    ... then skipped the rest of the bullshit.

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  55. True. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tru dat. I'm done reading books. Max I read the summary on Wikipedia and I'm done.

  56. Interesting . . . by Kimomaru · · Score: 1

    Ironically, I couldn't finish this post. I think this is what tl:dr was created for.

  57. Why I switched to Audio books by Danathar · · Score: 2

    I've been ADHD since the 8th grade in the 80's. I simply can't read a book without skimming and turning pages when I come upon a section that seems boring. Since moving to unabridged audiobooks I'm actually hearing the whole novel.

    1. Re:Why I switched to Audio books by swillden · · Score: 1

      I've been ADHD since the 8th grade in the 80's. I simply can't read a book without skimming and turning pages when I come upon a section that seems boring. Since moving to unabridged audiobooks I'm actually hearing the whole novel.

      I notice the same thing. However, I think that switching to audio books (primarily for the convenience of being able to do other things while "reading") has also further decreased my ability to read without skimming. This sometimes gets to be a problem when I need to read technical documentation. I've begun to think I really need to make sure that I spend at least 15-30 minutes per day reading text which I don't want to skim.

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  58. I feel like I read this somewhere else, recently. by AnontheDestroyer · · Score: 1

    ...anyway, back to work.

  59. Féck off beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you give us a link to turn off beta on an article, direct the link to the god damn article....I've re-clicked the link to this article, from my RSS reader, and it gives beta every time - even after I click the link that returns the site to no-beta.

    Fix the site and get rid of this 'screw up articles randomly with beta' crap - I'm not going to look around to search out, how to properly and permanently fix this crap - I have cookies enabled and everything, what would it take you guys to just store a 'beta/no-beta' cookie?

    How long has this beta garbage been around now, and it's still not fixed?

  60. Re:Its called evolution.. by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    No; GP was right, should have looked it up:

    to change or develop slowly often into a better, more complex, or more advanced state : to develop by a process of evolution

    http://www.merriam-webster.com...

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  61. Your point? by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

    The brain was not designed for reading and there are no genes for reading like there are for language or vision.

    Nor was it designed for high speed, non-linear scanning of electronic data. It would seem that all this article is really saying is that the brain adapts to the input stimulus it receives. We already knew that.

  62. Interesting read, probably by paysonwelch · · Score: 1

    I just skimmed the Slashdot description it looks interesting. It looks really interesting I'll come back to read it later ;) /sarcasm & irony.

  63. Re:Its called evolution.. by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 1

    I used to always love reading long books. Now, I do have to admit that I have a harder time keeping with reading for extended periods of time. It'll take me two or three weeks to read the Hobbit, when it took me about as many days to read it the first time. However, with the always-connected Internet and all, I find myself "reading" the classics, like the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings, by listening to audiobooks while doing something that doesn't require verbal focus, like playing video games with the sound turned off. I can perfectly pay attention to the story I'm hearing, while playing video games, and in a couple days, I'll listen to the entire audiobook.

  64. Re:It's making following instructions more difficu by WillAdams · · Score: 2

    How perfect --- the quote of the day:

    Order and simplification are the first steps toward mastery of a subject -- the actual enemy is the unknown. -- Thomas Mann

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  65. Citation needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The brain was not designed for reading and there are no genes for reading like there are for language or vision.

    Reading is language. It's the visual component of it. In MRI studies of blind people reading Braille they find that the brain uses the visual cortex to read no matter what activity you choose to use to do it.

    As for the "genes" comment -- if you know of a gene for language, please, tell the cognitive scientists of the world, who are still desperately trying to figure out why we are genetically predisposed to acquiring language before we even leave the womb.

  66. I noticed this 40 years ago, with Reader's Digest by Thagg · · Score: 1

    At the time, one of the most popular magazines was "Reader's Digest", which edited long articles into short three-page summaries. They did a pretty good job of it. They would often have a "condensed book" as well.

    After reading the Reader's Digest versions of articles, though, it was difficult to go back to long-form reading. There's really nothing new here!

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  67. authors not quite on the same page... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Before the Internet, the brain read mostly in linear ways "

    Author obviously never had a job (or understands the concept) where things called technical papers or refernece manual are employed...

    Sorry mac, that predated the internet, the PC, and even computers

    Ignorance is not a sin. Propagating it to others, is.

  68. Automate the skimming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm retired, and I start my day by spending two to three hours reading stuff on the web. I have definitely noticed the effect described in the summary and have been a bit concerned that reading at a normal pace is so difficult now. I find that reading books aloud to myself helps slow everything down, allowing me to savor the stuff that qualifies as literature. I just finished The Silmarillion that way, mangling countless names along the way, but retaining much more of the book's stories than I did the first time when I read it silently.

    I attribute the skimming technique (perhaps obviously) to a desire to find interesting nuggets amidst a vast pile of waste (or simply uninteresting nuggets). Now if we had software skimming agents that did that for us, we could have custom newspapers or journals that we could dive into knowing that the content was the stuff that we wanted to spend time on. Or perhaps simply have some kind of rating agents that went through the articles in front of us to communicate likely interesting.

    Such agents would be fooled, gamed and even perverted by corporate giants for a while, but once created, the battle to make them work for the users would be under way.

  69. TLDR by oscrivellodds · · Score: 1

    TLDR

  70. Re:Its called evolution.. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    I can perfectly pay attention to the story I'm hearing, while playing video games, and in a couple days, I'll listen to the entire audiobook.

    AD(H)D anyone?

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  71. Re:Its called evolution.. by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

    I hope you eventually stopped to look up the definition of "irony."

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  72. How about both? by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure why people can't do both. I tend to be very non-linear when I'm online and probably skim more than I should. But I can still sit down every night and read a novel or non-fiction book. I don't feel like I need to readjust myself or anything. If there's a day where I can't read it's more due to my mood than because I've spent the day skimming.

    That said, I do think lack of focus and patience is a problem. It's frustrating at work to have coworkers gloss over an email and miss important points, even when I've set up a bulleted list for easy reading. Sometimes skimming works, but often it doesn't. And I think many people have gone beyond that to where they just read a headline and nothing more. Crap like Twitter certainly encourages that, as it's nothing but headline spam.

  73. Re:Its called evolution.. by Calydor · · Score: 1

    Isn't that pretty much what the article is about, that we're all getting a touch of ADHD because of our online habits?

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  74. Re:Its called evolution.. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    Nah, the article claims that the internet is causing us to lose our ability to read deeply. It's pure nonsense. Anyone that dealt with writing reports and research papers in school using, gasp, dead tree encyclopedias certainly had highly developed skimming skills, jumping around through those pages looking for the pieces they needed to complete their papers with all the required footnotes and bibliography. And then they still had to read through more dead tree novels, if they were in the appropriate english classes, thus both skill sets were needed. I do both on a regular basis still, both on and offline.

    Now what might be happening is that schools today have declined to the point that students are no longer required to read those more challenging novels, and thus never develop the deeper reading skills in the first place. Given all the group-think "learning" now in schools, this is quite easy to believe, and the blight (and savior) that is Cliff notes and the like along with mostly average teachers. It takes a great teacher to get students to actually read some of the admittedly dredge crap (Dostoyevsky, I'm looking at you for one) which at best is unpleasant reading and write about something that cannot be gleaned out of those abridged notes. There's many others, but it will vary by reader, which is why literature is such a great thing. Someone will love the Canterbury Tales, others will not be able to tolerate reading it by choice, Beowulf? Steinbeck? Hemingway? Bronte (any of the three)? But without exposure to the actual works, and the effort to absorb them, most will never know. (FYI - I threw in a mixture of authors and works considered classics that should prove challenging to any student to read that's not already read other peer works, I make no voucher of my opinion of any but Crime and Punishment, of which I feel I was sentenced without committing a crime...)

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  75. Information density is the controlling factor by swm · · Score: 1

    My reading speed moves up and down to maintain a constant information density.
    In a low-density text, like, ummm, Slashdot comments, I skim.
    In a medium-density text, like a novel, I read every word.
    In a high-density text, like a math book, I *study* every word.

    And it's not something that I have to think about either: it happens automatically.
    My subjective experience is that I'm managing a tradeoff between boredom (too slow) and incomprehension (too fast).

  76. Reading papers or math or code *is* harder now by RandCraw · · Score: 1

    I don't tweet or text, but I skim through a lot of online news and articles. In the past couple of years, I've found it increasingly difficult to work my way through serious technical writing (e.g. research papers), math, or worse yet, my old code.

    Yes, science & engineering papers are notoriously tersely (badly) written, as are most math and eng books. But these days I find myself almost unable to slow down and step through difficult passages. I gloss over the sticky stuff much more than I did maybe 20 years ago.

    Maybe my brain is getting old. Maybe not.

  77. Could eds plz ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... keep articles to l.t. 140 chars. Thx.

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  78. long til writing by amigabill · · Score: 1

    we soon skimming addition readers internet

  79. MaryAnne Wolfe has another problem by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    she just hasn't been reading quality books, so abilities grew rusty. The issue has nothing to do with the internet. I still read large well-written books and have no such issues, everyone else should do the same, it's good for your brain 8D

  80. nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I skimmed through David Copperfield by Charles Dickens in the 1990s before I got a dial-up modem. Only thing I remember about the book is Pegoty and Betsy and Agnes. oh yeah, Clara died after she married Mr. Murdstone. He is a creepy and mean guy.

  81. sign of the times by monkey999 · · Score: 2
    Yes, it appears young people are becoming more impatient shallow, and frivolous, and have been for some time:

    The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them.

    - Peter the Hermit, 13th Century AD

    I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... the present youth are exceedingly impatient of restraint

    -Hesiod, 8th century BC

    The art of letter-writing is fast dying out. When a letter cost nine pence, it seemed but fair to try to make it worth nine pence ... Now, however, we think we are too busy for such old-fashioned correspondence. We fire off a multitude of rapid and short notes, instead of sitting down to have a good talk over a real sheet of paper.

    - The Sunday Magazine 1871

    It is, unfortunately, one of the chief characteristics of modern business to be always in a hurry. In olden times it was different.

    - The Medical Record 1884

    With the advent of cheap newspapers and superior means of locomotion... The dreamy quiet old days are over... For men now live think and work at express speed. They have their Mercury or Post laid on their breakfast table in the early morning, and if they are too hurried to snatch from it the news during that meal, they carry it off, to be sulkily read as they travel ... leaving them no time to talk with the friend who may share the compartment with them... The hurry and bustle of modern life ... lacks the quiet and repose of the period when our forefathers, the day's work done, took their ease...

    - William Smith, Morley: Ancient and Modern, 1886

    Conversation is said to be a lost art ... Good talk presupposes leisure, both for preparation and enjoyment. The age of leisure is dead, and the art of conversation is dying.

    - Frank Leslie's popular Monthly, Volume 29 1890

    Intellectual laziness and the hurry of the age have produced a craving for literary nips. The torpid brain ... has grown too weak for sustained thought. There never was an age in which so many people were able to write badly.

    - Israel Zangwill, The Bachelors' Club 1891

    The art of pure line engraving is dying out. We live at too fast a rate to allow for the preparation of such plates as our fathers appreciated. If a picture catches the public fancy, the public must have an etched or a photogravured copy of it within a month or two of its appearance, the days when engravers were wont to spend two or three years over a single plate are for ever gone.

    - Journal of the Institute of Jamaica, Volume 1 1892

    So much is exhibited to the eye that nothing is left to the imagination. It sometimes seems almost possible that the modern world might be choked by its own riches, and human faculty dwindle away amid the million inventions that have been introduced to render its exercise unnecessary. The articles in the Quarterlies extend to thirty or more pages, but thirty pages is now too much so we witness a further condensing process and, we have the Fortnightly and the Contemporary which reduce thirty pages to fifteen pages so that you may read a larger number of articles in a shorter time and in a shorter form. As if this last condensing process were not enough the condensed articles of these periodicals are further condensed by the daily papers, which will give you a summary of the summary of all that has been written about everything. Those who are dipping into so many subjects and gathering inform

  82. Stop joking... by Dareth · · Score: 1

    My company approved some technical training. So now I am watching the Ukraine news waiting for WW3 to breakout before I get to go!

    --

    I only look human.
    My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
  83. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought this was obvious. Other media (adverts) encourage DisregardBullshit agility, but the internet is a crossing point of sorts and you spend an awful lot of time doing mental filtering.

    5-10 years ago I was a little bit better at digesting things like college textbooks. I was still slow; I'd have to stop and digest thicker nuggets of context since they'd be established onto later. Reading a legal document is little better than reading computer code, half the shit in there is "variables" (not just the literally invented parties) that are referred to repeatedly.

    Nowadays I'd say that skill has diminished slightly, but still works the same, I just have to stop and chew. I suppose this MIGHT be of concern if your career includes reading thinks like sci/med/law journals/texts/research/idunno, and the time required is granted. However, most of us have jobs where The Man wants you moving along, wants quotas met and that memo or user manual or material safety data sheet read in 5 minutes so you get back to productivity. Even in our personal lives, where despite technological progress we must sell most our week, time is a premium and skimming is a valuable skill.

    Everything I've written is old news. What I'd find interesting would be the shift in /writing style/, where we line up thoughts in a concise or convenient way when we want them read quickly, when we want to reduce TLDR walkaways, when we want maximum digestion speed. The "folding" of modern GUIs (tooltips, submenus) has penetrated already, and we're trying to find ways to more directly insert interruptions (like these parenthetical) or footnotes. Exempli gratia: Randall's "What If" posts.

    -AC.Falos

  84. I thought I had this problem, but apparently not by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    I do a lot of reading on the internet, and have back before the WWW was popularized. I thought I had this very problem, since I just couldn't read large sections of text without skipping over much of it. It was genuinely worrying me. But then I realized it wasn't a fair test since I was reading Atlas Shrugged.

  85. It seems Marshall McLuhan was right after all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hint: The Medium is the Message.

  86. for example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in the article, which I will look at later, the feature that i most WANT TO see, is lots of pretty three-d graphs. graphs, that HAVE axis labeled in a clear, informative fashion. perhaps with color for the SEX of the subjects that were fmri'd. WITH labels on graph axis, even the most confusing graph, can become clear. YOU would certainly agree. human eyes are drawn not only to bright colors or rapid change -- other visual features can CALL and draw them in. a little offtopic, but ME is often on the upper-right of maps, almost AT a corner. further offtopic, benford's law says that most constants begin with 1. zero minus twenty-five squared plus eight is -617. a digital clock near me might read 1234, and the final digits of currenttimemillis might be 567.

  87. That's why I use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A text to speech program.

  88. Reading linearly is unnatural by kaapstorm · · Score: 1

    We don't think linearly. Ideas spawn new ideas, and branch (like hyperlinks, right?!) to form a directed graph (like a mind map ... huh?) sometimes meeting up with other ideas.

    Why would linear text be natural? It's not.

    And the way humans have taken to hypertext like ducks to water should be a hint; maybe our brains are better suited to being able to follow ideas in a non-linear way.

  89. Uh, Houston, we've got a problem. by FreedomFirstThenPeac · · Score: 1

    I'll bet this is why I can re-read a (fiction) book two days after I finish it and still find it interesting and fun. Not surprising (I remember the story), but interesting and fun because I am really reading it for the writing. Am I screwed or what?

    --
    "There is no god but allah" - well, they got it half right.
  90. More "Brain is a dumb piece of wiring" analogies by DickMardy · · Score: 1

    Brains have not been "designed" to be "wired up" to do anything. Thinking of them in such terms is a pointless over-simplification. If you're struggling to read a book because you've been skimming the web for too long, stick at it, and it'll soon adapt itself back again. That's what it does.

  91. This is ridiculous. by GaryGara · · Score: 1

    This article amazes me because these people think they have discovered the New World. In the early 60's, my middle school grades, we used the SRA Reading program. We were taught both comprehensive and skim (speed) reading techniques. It is frustrating for me when someone thinks that they have discovered the "ultimate truth" when it had been discovered long ago by someone else in a more comprehensive and elucidated way. In this particular example, these people think that comprehensive and speed reading techniques are mutually exclusive and will most surely lead to disastrous, irreversible genetic mutations. "You can't fix stupid." Jeff Foxworthy.

  92. Re:Its called evolution.. by balbus000 · · Score: 1

    Be grateful you made it back to this thread in under two hours. I am just now making it back after three days. Obligatory.

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