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Declassified Papers Hint US Uranium May Have Ended Up In Israeli Arms
Lasrick (2629253) writes "Victor Gilinsky and Roger J. Mattson update their story on the NUMEC affair to take into account the recent release of hundreds of classified documents that shed additional light on the story. In the 1960s, the Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation (NUMEC) was found to be missing about a 100 pounds of bomb-grade uranium. Based on available evidence, Gilinsky and Mattson are convinced that the material ended up in Israel nuclear bombs. The newly release documents add more to the story, and Gilinsky and Mattson are calling on President Obama to declassify the remainder of the file."
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I think this has been known for many decades
I thought this was well known, just unofficial.
Hell, it even made a Tom Clancy novel!
The US government is run by jews.
I mean, how do you report that to your insurance agent anyway?
You sure that's not missing a few 0s?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Thank you Tom Clancy, for preparing us for this moment when we realize that we'll steal our own nuclear material and give it to our "allies" so the Israelis will "lose it" so it ends up in the hands of someone in the long list of people who'd love to target us using our own material.
There is no way the Israelis would give away or lose the material you say? Yea, that makes sense as well...
"If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet"
It was made at February, 1968, Savannah River, US. The stuff from K-reactor was stolen by US itself and given to Israelis. This is all common knowledge.
Shocked I say!
And now, here's Tom with the weather.
This happened almost 50 years ago, seriously, who cares?
This is quite disgusting of Slashdot to be spreading bigotry and hate in this day and age. This article should be removed immediately for spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories.
and who else A ) could have supplied and B ) could have supplied little isreal but greater isreal.. this is hardly a new theory and there is probably not enough left in classified stuff still to prove it anyway. there were even less places in them days to source from. the russians would'nt,uk coud'nt,france yes if price was right,so that only realy leaves greater isreal that could and would.and did.another international criminal act,carried out by americans with usa gov knowledge and help but we will never see even anyone charged let alone face an international court.
Wasn't this covered in a non-fiction book called "The PLUMBAT Affair?"
Actually, I have two oppinions on this matter
1.) if a country is in possession of nuclear weapons,
they should join the nuke arms test & proliferation ban
Israel should join this treaty.
No army and nobody should own nuclear weapons.
And Mordechai Vanunu should be given the chance to go exile.
2.) Israel is a special case
a.) The country is actually nothing more than an airstrip, from north to south it's approx. 200km wide. If aggressors try to invade it's a really short walk.
Or just four thermonuclear devices to split a country.
b.) Israel would never use the nuclear bomb as a first strike option. This can be seen as it never officially admitted having nukes, but everybody knew. It's a much critized politic style - but it worked - and choses nukes as a means of mutually assured destruction or retaliation.
So actually I'm ok with Israel having nuclear weapons and german fuel cell drivin subs to launch them.
But to be clear on the other point when it comes to Israel:
I'm absolutely not ok with the politics Israel undertakes towards the palestineans, the actual worst enemy for peace in Israel( In my count Gaza and west jordan area are part of Israel) is the whole politics of blame and shame.
You may have hit on something there, as 100 pounds of highly enriched uranium would constitute less than went into the Little Boy weapon that exploded over Hiroshima, Japan, in 1945; judging from various online sources, that weapon contained about 64 kilograms of HEU, and 100 pounds amounts to only 45 kg. On the other hand, the design of the Little Boy weapon was (again, judging from online sources) highly inefficient. My rough guess is that 100 pounds of HEU would be enough for two or three weapons that employed an efficient design.
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Actually it currently appears if you are an ally of the USA you will need nuclear weapons to protect yourself, because despite claims that the USA will help you they won't when it comes to it. You will have to endure harsh language from the USA if you choose this option
If you are an enemy of the USA, you are free to build nuclear weapons without the harsh language and the USA might even help keep other countries off your ass while you do so, see Iran.
If you have cattle in the west, that is unacceptable to the USA government and armed agents will be sent out immediatly to take care of the issue.
Yes, the USA government will treat its own citizens far harsher for having too many cattle then they will an enemy state making nuclear weapons. What does this get you? Russia invading Ukrane with no consequences.
Oh, wait. AIPAC! Anti-Semitic! Only democracy in the Middle East!
Saddam should have spent a few hundred million on lobbyists - he could still be in power. Just look at the Saudis.
...we're seeing that, when push comes to shove and certain people are in charge, the "promise" of the United States doesn't mean squat.
Nukes in the hand are worth an infinite number of promises and strongly-worded letters...
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Tom Clancy told us this in the Sum of All Fears, the great book; not the horribly butchered movie...
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I think you are speaking about Iraq and not Israel
When are we going to put sanction on Israel over their Nuclear Arms program?
Hell, a potato gun qualifies as a WMD under US statute.
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Nothing much has changed in the last 30 years. The US still has intrests in Israel and the middle east. Everyone knows Israel has nuclear weapons but can't prove it and that is just the way Israel likes it. Israel was on the brink of extinction in 1973 and no WMDs were used this proves remarkable self restraint. Accusing Israel of a 50 year old crime would serve no practical purpose. It would hurt relationships with Israel it will harm the peace process it would harm the fight against WMDs because it would show the truth we are much more concerned about dictators with WMDs then we are about democracies.
Note that uranium is extremely dense - 19.1 kg/liter - so we're not talking about a huge amount of material. 100 pounds is only about 2.4 liters - a little more than a half-gallon milk carton.
..and this is bad... why exactly?
How does weapons-grade uranium go "missing", don't they mean someone stole the uranium ..
To discover that one of the USA's middle eastern client states might have been provided with the materials for nuclear weapons just in case the USA had to throw a bomb or two at a particularly stubborn oil producing country without making the USA itself an immediate target for nuclear retaliation.
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OLLLLDDDD news that various entities including W.German intel, the CIA and MI6 participated in providing fully enriched yellowcake to Israel.
Part of the payoff for various assistance by Israel in providing Russian war equipment to the U.S. for ECM testing and training.
They never paid the 3.8 billion due for the ship and cargo that they stole for war purposes.
How does weapons-grade uranium go "missing", don't they mean someone stole the uranium ..
Um, hello..... half-life???
If it can be proven publicly, I don't see how there can be any choice, but to institute a regime of sanctions against this regime.
Israel is now far more dangerous than Iran, in that it probably now has nuclear weapons. How ironic, given the Israeli hypocrisy in accusing Iran of building nuclear weapons, that they should have illegally being doing so, themselves.
Given its history of ethnic cleansing and genocide, is probably the most likely regime to use them. So, it remains to be see, whether the ridiculous double standard of American foreign policy will persist, or if this nuclear armed expansionist ethnic cleanser regime will be punished for its assembly of an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction.
Eagle eyed readers who consume the entire article will note that it is 100 kilograms not 100 lbs. 100 kilos is more than twice as much material as 100 pounds.
You mean they don't weigh the stuff, tell me more, provide citations ...
-- "CIA’s conclusion at about the same time that Israel previously stole bomb-grade uranium from a US naval fuel plant" ref