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Declassified Papers Hint US Uranium May Have Ended Up In Israeli Arms
Lasrick (2629253) writes "Victor Gilinsky and Roger J. Mattson update their story on the NUMEC affair to take into account the recent release of hundreds of classified documents that shed additional light on the story. In the 1960s, the Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation (NUMEC) was found to be missing about a 100 pounds of bomb-grade uranium. Based on available evidence, Gilinsky and Mattson are convinced that the material ended up in Israel nuclear bombs. The newly release documents add more to the story, and Gilinsky and Mattson are calling on President Obama to declassify the remainder of the file."
I think this has been known for many decades
I thought this was well known, just unofficial.
Hell, it even made a Tom Clancy novel!
I mean, how do you report that to your insurance agent anyway?
You sure that's not missing a few 0s?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Theres a lot of evidence linking the Israelis to the South African nuclear weapons program with a lot of people thinking it was a "legitimatised" nuclear program that would only get SA into trouble internationally while Israel could walk away with a lot of improvements scot free, so if US technology and material ended up in Israeli hands, then I have no doubt equally that some of it then made its way on to apartheid South Africa.
Around 2000 there was a huge fuss about a top secret US tank fire targetting system that was stolen from the hardware that was donated to Israel, sold to China and then on-sold to Iran. Apparently even the thieves were pretty upset about that outcome.
However nuclear stuff makes people a bit more careful about keeping tabs on things.
Yes there's been official disclosure from the South African end.
No need to make a big deal about apartheid. We still put up with Israel doing it.
The US government is run by jews.
No, the reality is that the US government as well as the Israeli government are run by criminals.
And since the Israeli are alway protected by their sugar daddy, they can commit the most heinous acts without repercussions on the international scene. Yeah it's almost a given they have nuclear weapons. Israel is as bat shit crazy country as they come (some of it justified, most of it not).
Maybe the US should ask that uranium/plutonium back. And while they're at it impose the kind of economic sanctions they they impose on another country THAT DOES NOT HAVE the bomb. Hypocrisy all around.
This is quite disgusting of Slashdot to be spreading bigotry and hate in this day and age. This article should be removed immediately for spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories.
The Israelis would use a nuclear bomb as a last resort to keep what they have, a tiny strip of land.
Their adversaries and a few other rogue states and groups are not above using a nuclear bomb to get what they want, a tiny strip of land or even the whole western world.
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Actually, I have two oppinions on this matter
1.) if a country is in possession of nuclear weapons,
they should join the nuke arms test & proliferation ban
Israel should join this treaty.
No army and nobody should own nuclear weapons.
And Mordechai Vanunu should be given the chance to go exile.
2.) Israel is a special case
a.) The country is actually nothing more than an airstrip, from north to south it's approx. 200km wide. If aggressors try to invade it's a really short walk.
Or just four thermonuclear devices to split a country.
b.) Israel would never use the nuclear bomb as a first strike option. This can be seen as it never officially admitted having nukes, but everybody knew. It's a much critized politic style - but it worked - and choses nukes as a means of mutually assured destruction or retaliation.
So actually I'm ok with Israel having nuclear weapons and german fuel cell drivin subs to launch them.
But to be clear on the other point when it comes to Israel:
I'm absolutely not ok with the politics Israel undertakes towards the palestineans, the actual worst enemy for peace in Israel( In my count Gaza and west jordan area are part of Israel) is the whole politics of blame and shame.
I agree that the Israelis would only use the bomb as a last resort - just don't see how they could do that and still keep their strip of land. Besides, if the issue is preventing Israel's enemies from getting their own nukes, and one of the primary reasons those enemies can cite for pursuing them is "Israel has them, so why can't we", then the best way to end the middle east arms race would be for israel to give up its nukes in exchange for a US promise to retaliate against any nuclear strike against them.
Perhaps Israel didn't trust the US as an ally in the 60's, but they have no other reliable friends now - so they better start trusting us.
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Why bother trusting the US when they can simply use AIPAC to bribe our representatives into doing what benefits them?
...we're seeing that, when push comes to shove and certain people are in charge, the "promise" of the United States doesn't mean squat.
Nukes in the hand are worth an infinite number of promises and strongly-worded letters...
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The Israelis have a long standing relationship in trading military hardware with the Chinese. Another example is their air-to-air missiles the Rafael Python-3 which is manufactured in China under license as the PL-8.
I do not know exactly why the Israelis do this thing. If it is strictly for profit or if it is because they want to have a backup in case the US for whatever reason stops supporting them. Probably both. At one point their major weapons suppliers were the UK and France but after the Suez Crisis botch up the UK withdrew support. France kept selling them weapons until their other major costumers, the Arabs, said they would no longer buy weapons from them if they also sold to the Israelis. So they became reliant on the US for most weapons systems.
In the long run, there are no allies, just business relationships.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
This happened almost 50 years ago, seriously, who cares?
Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it.....
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Their adversaries and a few other rogue states and groups are not above using a nuclear bomb to get what they want, a tiny strip of land or even the whole western world.
The construction of this statement is priceless if not vague, inaccurate and worthless. The intersection of adversaries of Israel and lunatics particularly is quite laughable.
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South Africa gave up its nuclear program after the fall of the apartheid regime.
This land was taken by force, and the natives (continue to be) interned and executed. The surrounding areas do not pick on Israel because the people are Jewish, but because those who call themselves Israeli commit both crimes and crimes against humanity. Start with this book bt prof Chomsky:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fateful_Triangle
I would say there is a slight difference.
The Israelis would use a nuclear bomb as a last resort to keep what they have, a tiny strip of land.
Their adversaries and a few other rogue states and groups are not above using a nuclear bomb to get what they want, a tiny strip of land or even the whole western world.
Which strip of land? Israel or the West Bank? I agree that Iran has said some worrying things and Israel seems a nice place to live filled with generally pleasant people. But they are without a doubt the aggressors in the current conflict and having nukes is one of the factors that has emboldened them to adopt such an extreme strategy. Now their enemies having nukes is a really scary proposition because Israel has adopted an extremely aggravating position predicated on the idea that their enemies are powerless to harm them.
I stole this Sig
Ukraine's current predicament was created by the the US government. They orchestrated and funded the coup. Here's a leaked phone call of Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, and Geoffrey Pyatt, US Ambassador to Ukraine, discussing which puppet they're going to install in the new Ukrainian government, and worrying about when Russia will respond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
That's it just skip away from the facts that the world trusts the Israelis not to do crazy things with nuclear weapons and we don't trust Iran, etc in the same way.
Just skip into backbiting.