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Gaining On the US: Most Europeans To Be Overweight By 2030
An anonymous reader writes "Welcome to the club, Euro friends. A World Health Organization analysis concludes that within 15 years a majority of Europeans will be obese or severely overweight. In almost all countries the proportion of overweight and obesity in males was projected to increase – to reach 75% in UK, 80% in Czech Republic, Spain and Poland, and 90% in Ireland, the highest level calculated. Women fare a little better. In reviewing the results, the lead researcher said: "Our study presents a worrying picture of rising obesity across Europe. Policies to reverse this trend are urgently needed.""
I cannot think of a skinny person I work with who does not have a sugar-free diet. And I work in an industry where we work really really strange hours, over really really bad time-zone changes.
And collecting all its ills, too.
"If you can't eat 'em - join 'em"
As people live longer on average, the average symptoms change. Eventually, all these older fat people will get cancer. Nothing new here.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
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The formula for BMI is weight(kg) / heigth(m) * height(m). This formula only has two terms for height, but in reality I'm a 3d person. What I mean with this is that it is easier for a short person to be "normal weigth" in BMI. As people on average get taller and taller more and more people are going to be overweight. On the other hand many of my male friends are lifting weights and they are all "overweight" while clearly they are not fat.
So, while the problem is probably real and severe, I'd like to see a better way of measuring this stuff.
They'll make better targets for the next big war with Russia. Once their small, super-downsized professional armies will have been wiped out, the EU Commission will order every able-bodied male (and probably female) not part of the Ruling Elite or their servant workforce to the front where they'll be cut to shreds by machine gun fire, blown to bloody chunks by artillery and burned to death from the inside out by thermobaric weapons. It will be the show of a lifetime, watching a generation of unemployed youth exterminated in the name of Yoorop. All for naught, of course, but that's in tune with the rich Euro-nazi cultural heritage.
Consider this:
http://www.pcrm.org/images/gm/autumn2007/pyramid.jpg
Present economic policies in western countries actively encourage companies, fast food chains and restaurants to make unhealthy food products. Since these companies want to sell their products, they will also push unhealthy eating habits in advertising, movies and TV-series and so on. There is basically a huge economic incentive to push people to eat an unhealthy diet, and thus you get strongly financed opposition to the type of changes that would address the issue, such as serving more fruit and veg in school, limiting the calorie content of fast food and so on...
My son has a BMI of 14, coming from 12; going to 30 would be a real improvement. In the statistics 18 (healthy) is more morbid than 36 (morbid obesity), but thin is a good business model.
People like Gok Wan that make people take pride in how awful their bodies look is partially to blame for this epidemic.
People are no longer ashamed to be fat larding morons wobbling around the streets.
Fat-shaming NEEDS to be a thing. Despite what those childish tumblr-tards say. You shouldn't be happy you are fat. You shouldn't at all. It is an abnormality. The human body hasn't evolved to deal with it. And it shouldn't evolve to deal with it. It shouldn't even be happening.
And while I have mentioned this, these people only make it accepting. It is the bad fast-foods, the premade foods and ready-meal generation that are corrupted.
THESE need to change more than anything. All these companies can put as much spin on it as possible, "oh, our meals are only meant to be one-offs every so often", or whatever other bullshit they can come up with, they are partly responsible for this.
Quite frankly, I say make people pay double for healthcare if they become obese through circumstances out of their own hands. (illnesses, genetics, and some medications like the steroidal types)
And if they haven't fixed it by 10 years, make it official and roll it out across the countries. There is no reason to be fat unless you have severe illness, genetics or medications. No reason at all. (NHS UK included. I am from UK and I would be for those changes. Screw equality, these people aren't equal any more, equality was based on averages, they are well outside the range of these averages!)
Even WHEN eating all these fattening foods, you can still exercise it off completely.
More physical classes in school should also be a thing. Hell, go experimental, have classes on foot if possible. Teach people while walking around the school, a forest, a school garden, whatever. There are various classes that could be taught on foot. They don't even need to be long classes either, they can be spaced out in amongst other classes, 15-30 minute classes on foot, standing about, writing on a notepad (with backing to make it sturdy), gets them used to being outside, standing while doing other things instead of sitting down to do things.
Seriously, fund it. If that doesn't breed an active generation, I don't know what will.
Nothing beats relaxing after exercising. Relaxing all the time? It is sickening. I don't know how people can be a semi-permanent couch potato day-in day-out.
If you cycle, then I suggest doing your BMI maths to find out how obse you are, BMI FUCKING SUCKS! Muscle is heavier than fat, bmi is your weight in relation to you high. therefore if you have a maximum about of muscle then you come in at Obse on this stupid fucking scale.
Fuck all fat on me, mostly skinny build, have some nice leg muscles, no real arm or back muscles, no fat gut, im 183cms and 95KGs..
Overweight to the point that if I put on more weight i'm Obese!
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That means we won't have anything to tease them about.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
When do we get to reach this status? Please outsource your eating habits to us.
Can't those Europeans let us be better at something
We can't be first in anything anymore.
Everywhere I go nowadays when I see a younger couple it's a normal sized man with an overweight woman. It's like normal sized women don't even exist any more and this is the best they can do.
Now with older couples (say aged 30 and up) they're almost always both fat. Probably the man adapted to her lifestyle over time.
..it seems food producers globally are instructed to lace everything with more and more sugar. The USA is the best example - sugar and/or HFCS added to everything, even the most unthinkable.
Are you overweight?
I have lost 2 stone / 28 lb / 13kgs over the last 18 months after I scrapped my car and started cycling to work (7 miles each way). I have no interest in going to the gym - no time for that - and I'm not particularly bothered about sport. If I had kept my car I would inevitably drive whenever I was going to be late for work, which would be all the time. So what worked for me was to leave myself no option other than to do exercise every day.
SURELY NOT!!!!!
I guess it's too difficult to look in the mirror to determine if your BMI is too high because of being fat or muscular!
Congratulations, I'm sure nobody has noticed that before.
I mean, It's entirely impossible that people don't scale up like, say, solid bronze statues would. Furthermore it'd be ludicrous to suggest that the formula wasn't an empirically derived approximation but was just made up by someone who wasn't as math-smart as you.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Basically don't believe these news. See data and you would be surprised how rigged these studies are.
http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.cz/2014/05/yet-more-obesity-babble.html
The exprts warn: most of the studies reported in newspaper are totally wrong....
In the USA I've seen people who must use motorized chairs to move about, not because they are handicapped or paralyzed in any way, but merely because they are morbidly obese. I've not seen that in any other country so far.
BMI is a flawed method. It doesn't take individual build into consideration, but only assumes a certain "generic" mass of muscle etc., which is why it always fails for slender people and for muscular people. Avoid the concept of BMI.
As someone from Ireland I can vouch for that. Used to be nice feminine creatures - now fat pig dogs, almost all of them, hyper tense, feminist trolls
The amount of sugar and other carbs in our current diet is way higher than it was. Also, we stopped using fat as our energy source since some studies suggested (falsely) that fat was the cause of cardiac diseases and obesity. Those studies have since been proven wrong and the new consensus is that our current high carbs intake is responsible for the enormous amount of obese people and diabetes type II patients.
A human can live healthy with 0 carbs intake for an entire year, providing they use fat to substitute for energy intake. A human will die within 6 months if they have 0 fat intake, regardless of what they use to substitute that.
The whole "omega fat" and cholesterol story is way more complicated and correlation and causation between fats, omega fats, cholesterol (various sorts of it) and cardiac disease is currently highly debated. Much research is finding that previous research is wrong and new things are being found every few months. Several papers that have been proven by independent re-trials seem to point out that the whole omega fat theory holds no statistical advantage and there are indications that it may actually be contra productive, but those results are too inconclusive.
We used to have natural fats, natural carbs and way less carbs in our diet 70 years ago, compared to now. High fructose corn syrup didn't exist yet the way it does now and breakfast wasn't sugar frosted. We didn't limit our fat intake "because it's bad for your heart and you'll get fat" the way we do now and yes, we did often exercise more than we do now. Our whole culture has moved to prepared food instead of home cooking and our taste buds made us buy the food with the "richer" taste. We don't look on the labels to see what's in it, we just want it to taste good and end our appetite. That lead to a totally different diet currently, which leads to obesity.
To make it more difficult, carbs and especially sugar are actually addictive and our modern stomach fauna will produce chemical substances to make our brain feel good if we eat carbs. We have to go through actual withdrawal symptoms if we don't have our trice daily fix of carbs (feeling faint and woozy) and we get a reward "after dinner dip" if we eat.
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
As a society becomes more technologically advanced there is less and less actual physical work being done by most of its citizens.
Couple that with more readily available food ( both good and bad kinds ), and a general lack of personal control, being overweight makes logical sense in many parts of today's world.
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...but I also cycle 20km daily to and from work. People should have some physical activities included in their everyday routines. If e.g. your workplace is only a few kilometers away, why not cycle?
Next is our guns. That's always how it happens. But they will never take our stupidity. Nope, We have ALGOR. hahaha yes ALGOR! Bwahahahaha. Bwahahahahaaaaaaaaahaaaahaaa.
No doubt there will be a lot of overweight Eurotrash in years to come - the UK is already there imho. Ireland too.
But what about all the people who are 'skinny fat'? The young people who look slender but have appalling muscle density - is that any healthier?
the slow erasing of the unique American culture and identity. There may be a war over this.
Closing cities to all automobile traffic. This is it.
Commuting becomes very fast as bicycles do not need traffic lights.
There are cargo bicycles too for supplying shops. Strangely people will eat less as they move more. Anyone who was on a long distance cycling tour could not to fail to notice it. People overeat due to to an anxiety. And regular physical activity reduces anxiety dramatically.
As a by-product we get that there will be no bad areas in a city due to traffic noise and pollution.
I am 2 meters high, 85 kg.
I cycle and exercise regularly but in my opinion the most important thing is the quality of your your food. It is in fact the most important change since 60 years ago.
It is not biscuits, it is biscuits with Palm and partially hydrogenated oils, which are super inexpensive to manufacture, lasting long but very difficult to eliminate by your methabolism.
Also it is very hard to mass produce food with fiber, alive cells, antioxidants, enzymes and vitamines(the medium is very important so it is not the same vitamin c from a lemmon than from a pill). 100 years ago most of the food you eat already had this. So the human being as evolved thinking food have those
But artificial flavors have developed a lot. So you can manufacture something that tastes really good, but does not feed you. And by feeding I don't mean just carbs, or oils, but aminoacids, fiber, good living cells, and good viruses, enzymes, vitamines, natural antioxidants.
You can eat a lot and don't feel satiated at all. Because you body needs these things and when you eat preprocesed food you are not giving them. So your body gets in panic asking for more food to get those.
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"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
Interestingly, I'm the first to mention alcohol in this discussion.
I'm 5'11 and 142pounds / 64kg
It's not just sugar. I cycle.
ASL? Pics, or it didn't happen.
OMG! People are (insert adjective, adverbs, nouns as appropriate)! We must do something! Somebody make a policy, quick!
The role of government is not to be Mom or Nanny. Will the government next send a message to their TV's 'You have reached your maxium TV dose for today, go outside and play now. The TV is off until tomorrow!"
A good rule of thumb is to find out what the most respected nutritionists agree on and do the opposite. My employer provides lunch, and labels the food according to the 'food pyramid' -- red for the worst stuff like red meats and sweetsand fried food and white flour or rice. Green for steamed vegetables and high fiber foods and the like, yellow in the middle and containing poultry and fatty vegetables. I only eat red and yellow, preferring red. It's tastiest of course. ~145lb, 5' 7". Cholesterol on the low end of normal. Portion control is important, but when you're eating tasty filling foods, it's easy. If I notice myself gaining, I can just cut down on the cookies. When you're trying to feed yourself on low macronutrient foods, portion control is ridiculously difficult; you need huge amounts to just stop the hunger.
BMI is used for screening.
The brackets keep changing for what is considered overweight, so of course more people are overweight. Same with diabetes.
I live in the US. 6 feet, 145lbs, lift weights regularly, eat rice/beans/vegetables, no sugar. Roughly a third of my family regularly tells me I'm way too skinny and they're concerned about my health. They think I'm going to die of starvation. I've had quite a few women make comments about how I'm too skinny and not strong (one thought she could beat me arm wrestling). My favorite is when I'm with someone and a seriously in shape bicyclist passes by and they compare the bicyclist to a holocaust survivor.
We've entered a dark place when people start shaming fit people because they don't even know what a normal person should look like.
People will sweat off those extra pounds. Mostly while riding public transportation that doesn't have air conditioning to save the batteries.
The upcoming Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) should prevent any regulations that could help fighting US food megacorporation practices from spreading the EU.
I'm sure our Alien overlords will be pleased that their cattle will be plump and juicy for consumption upon their arrival. :-)
Interestingly its been known since the late 80s that 36,24,36 is actually skinny if a woman is over 5' 3".
Dr. Anthony Ray, the author of this work, went on to conclude that, increased and well positioned body weight is good for reproductive health Quote:
"My Anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns hun!" unquote.
People don't realize that the next epidemic will be obesity. Its effects are dramatic and very harmful to health and it's only a matter of time before technology makes food sufficiently cheap for everyone.
I recommend free public transportation
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There are many factors in obesity.
1. The greatest is willpower. Pure, sheer wilpower. The willpower to eat less, the willpower to exercise.
2. Luck. I happen to have the luck to be able to sleep with a mostly empty stomach. It is surprising how much that helps. I also have the luck that I like biking and live in the Netherlands, where almost everybody bikes. Some people have the bad luck to have a body that gains easy and looses difficultly.
3. Food. I do not mean quantity, that's covered in 1. I mean types. There seems to be some indication that some types of food set the body to gain weight. How that works exactly is not yet known as far as I know. Apparently I don't eat much of them, or I compensate for it sufficiently.
4 and onwards are unknown to me. However, due to the complexity I expect them to be there.
I am 1m96 and weigh 95 kg. My ideal weight according to my doctor would be 88kg. I have dropped from 106kg in 6 months. That was easy, I halved my portion size and upped my bicycling distance significantly.
Well, I might have a way, but it only works on a semi spherical planet in a vacuum.