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London Police Placing Anti-Piracy Warning Ads On Illegal Sites

mrspoonsi (2955715) writes "The City of London police has started placing banner advertisements on websites believed to be offering pirated content illegally. The messages, which will appear instead of paid-for ads, will ask users to close their web browsers. The move comes as part of a continuing effort to stop piracy sites from earning money through advertising. Police said the ads would make it harder for piracy site owners to make their pages look authentic. "When adverts from well known brands appear on illegal websites, they lend them a look of legitimacy and inadvertently fool consumers into thinking the site is authentic," said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Fyfe from the City of London Police Intellectual Property Crime Unit (Pipcu). "This new initiative is another step forward for the unit in tackling IP crime and disrupting criminal profits. "Copyright infringing websites are making huge sums of money though advert placement, therefore disrupting advertising on these sites is crucial and this is why it is an integral part of Operation Creative.""

160 comments

  1. uno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think piratebay is very authentic, irrelevantly of what is thought of its legality.

    1. Re: uno by AvitarX · · Score: 2

      Of course it's ads almost certainly aren't.

      What real brands are they claiming are advertised on pirate sites?

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    2. Re: uno by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      youporn, pornhub and redtube?

      Real and respected brands in their field of business.

      In related news: Who is surfing to such sites without AdBlocker and NoScript shields up?

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    3. Re:uno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Allegedly illegal sites. Looks like another way to get around the court system.

    4. Re: uno by __aaeihw9960 · · Score: 2
      (Generally older) People who Google items like, "Where can I watch Dear John" and "New Will and Grace"

      I am woefully out of touch with culture, but you get the idea.

    5. Re: uno by jakimfett · · Score: 1

      Who is surfing to such sites without AdBlocker and NoScript shields up

      I basically came here to say exactly this. Adblock Plus, NoScript, Ghostery, FlashBlock...whenever I browse the internet without them (eg, on a friend's computer, or when doing tech support, or when re-installing an OS) I have a moment of "...the heck are these abominations?" before I remember that, oh right, the internet has ads.

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    6. Re: uno by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I've only seen meet local girl style fake dating site.

      If I saw Youporn, etc. I wouldn't of said what I said.

      Oh, also dick pills, and Usenet, Usenet being good, but not something that will give legitimacy to the common man.

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  2. Hilarious by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Piracy sites have found a way to get the Police to pay them money. Whatever war on copyright infringement there might have been, I think it's safe to say that it is over.

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    1. Re:Hilarious by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...and the users using AdBlock will see what exactly ...?

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    2. Re:Hilarious by feldhaus · · Score: 5, Informative

      From TFA:

      "The initiative will make use of technology provided by Project Sunblock - a firm used by major brands to stop adverts appearing alongside questionable content such as pirated material or pornography."

      "Neither the police or Project Sunblock [are paying the website in question to display the police message." --

    3. Re:Hilarious by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      I should've realised that we don't live in the best of all possible universes. Or read the article. One of those.

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    4. Re:Hilarious by Arker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Which makes it sound like some sort of attack on the ad network.

      Without more details it's hard to say, but it sounds like the ad network should file a complaint with the UK and get these overenthusiastic corporate cops charged.

      There's a battle to love - ad networks versus the 'city of london.' May they fight forever and leave the rest of us in peace.

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    5. Re:Hilarious by buchner.johannes · · Score: 2

      So it's a MITM attack essentially ... similar to this one ... and works on all pirates visiting websites when users are not using SSL?

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    6. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is more interesting is what isn't said. And that seems to be that advertisers are paying the websites, they just change their advertisement to something else.
      Which in turn might result in them being thrown off the ad network and fined.

    7. Re:Hilarious by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Ha! That is a great question. I don't frequent that site, but now I kind of want to (but not at work...I like having a job)

    8. Re:Hilarious by shitzu · · Score: 2

      Exactly what i though reading "has started placing banner advertisements on websites" ... "which will appear instead of paid-for ads". Does that mean the City of London police - whatever that is - has taken upon themselves above the law and are essentially cybercriminals? So they con the sites as well as someone who has actually paid for the ad space?

    9. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They dont have any tech, just an invoice from IBM

      "Project Sunblock has partnered with IBM to provide 68 separate content classifications for the most accurate page categorisation. Some things are best left to those who know them best." - from the http://www.projectsunblock.com... site

      so really these are just middlemen reselling IBM, who would of guessed

    10. Re:Hilarious by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, they are doing it with the cooperation of the ad-providers.

      It's more the 'put these ads up for us or we'll charge you for aiding criminal activity' type of cooperation.

    11. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The problem with this approach is that:
      a) people who decide to pirate, see no qualms in depriving piracy sites of money, be it adblock or simply blacklisting the top level ad servers being used by piracy sites. I know personally I do this for sites I visit that I know "are dirty", because I don't wish to support sites that are offering pirated content, no matter how good or evil the intent is. This includes "scanlation", "fansub" and other "but i thought it was free" bullshit sites like mangafox.
      b) people already assume the ads are malware, and will blindly ignore them. For example occasionally you get a popup that purports to be from the FBI, but it will be ignored because it's presumed to be fake.

      To begin with, any site that induces "onclick" auto-popups, are already deserving the ire of the people using the site, so any warning that shows up in a popup/popout/popunder is going to be considered fake and immediately closed. When I browse these sites looking for the content of my clients (yes I'm THAT person who finds the links for DMCA notices) It become muscle memory to close any new window no matter what.

      Captcha: Tedious
      Yeah I know...

    12. Re:Hilarious by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Property Rights? Trespass to Chattels? No abuse of state powers for private gain? How easily the mask slips when a few cold pounds are involved.

      But the people I feel really sorry for are the victims of crime in London, whose cases go unsolved due to precious police resources being wasted on internet nonsense like this.

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    13. Re:Hilarious by Wootery · · Score: 1, Redundant
      Wow. So distinctive and impressive. And you use it every damn one of your comments.

      Really, it's not necessary.

    14. Re:Hilarious by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So what they're doing is infringing the copyright of the allegedly-copyright-infringing website by modifying and redistributing it.

      The hypocrisy is think with this one!

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    15. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      people who decide to pirate, see no qualms in depriving piracy sites of money

      And similarly, people who decide to pirate and do want to make sure the sites continue remaining able to offer their valuable services, always have Bitcoin. Most of the pirate sites I use have a "donate" link that shows a wallet address, and they don't show any ads at all, anymore. Web ads are so 2012. It started as a geek thing but now about a third?half? of mainstream people have a Bitcoin wallet that they have to use for something.

      I think this is a case where piracy (similar to, and overlapping, porn) is leading the way. Freeloaders didn't like DRM so they stripped it. Then the mainstream people who didn't exactly want to pirate but couldn't handle DRM, went to the pirates for reliably-playable content, "freeloading" off the freeloaders. People didn't like VISA overhead, paypal "freezes", etc so they went to BTC. People didn't like ads (or they were blocked by the government trying to cut off funding) so they went to direct funding where BTC stepped in again.

      Eventually the non-pirate mainstream will pick up all of this, leaving DRM snake oil salesmen, payment processor providers, and ad networks out in the cold. We're all slowly doing our part to get the hairdressers and phone sanitizers onto their spaceship. Then pirates will then slip into obsolescence, but remembered as "frenemies" who did the pioneering in eliminating the parasitic middlemen, setting up all the tech and the society that uses it.

      Sometimes I think it's kind of sad that things are going the way they are (a lot of people are having a hard time, especially if they aren't pirating yet), but if you look at everything that happened, it kind of seems like this was the only way anything was ever going to move forward. Next time anyone feels regret, go over to the house of someone just a little behind the curve, and it might jog your memory: you'll see web pages with ads, tv shows with ads, optical discs with unskippable ads, etc -- all combined with amazingly limited availability. We came from a really shitty place.

    16. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is 'City of London' not London. Its a small area controlled by corporations & people with money that has special privileges.
      They get their own official lobbyist who sits behind the speaker in parliament.

    17. Re:Hilarious by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Even if you didn't use AdBlock, HTTPS Everywhere takes care of it very nicely.

    18. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > It started as a geek thing but now about a third?half? of mainstream people have a Bitcoin wallet that they have to use for something.

      Hello, Parallel Universe? Yes, this is Real World. I just thought you'd like an update on how things are going. Most mainstream people continue to never have heard of Bitcoin. Bitcoin users remain an infinitesimal proportion of Internet users, even pirates.

      Real World out, have a good day!

    19. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you presumptuously attacking this person for being different? Is being different a crime?

    20. Re:Hilarious by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Disregard the above, misinformed comment. mea culpa

    21. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My job IS to download copyright works you insensitive clod!!

    22. Re:Hilarious by Wootery · · Score: 1

      Nope. Just slightly annoying.

    23. Re:Hilarious by sumdumass · · Score: 2

      So whi gets sued when they place one of these on a site that is completely legitimate? I hear that in Europe, slander and libel cases can be won even if the information is true but the intent was to harm a reputation. Clearly this would be that.

    24. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you try to contribute to the discussion instead of fixating on irrelevancies?

    25. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear that in Europe, slander and libel cases can be won even if the information is true but the intent was to harm a reputation.

      Do you really think that the Anti-Piracy Ads have anything true in them?

    26. Re:Hilarious by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Sure I do.. I mean the police would never accuse someone of something that wasn't true, they are the police after all. They fight crime and the bad guys so why wouldn't I believe that the legitimate site isn't piracy site or otherwise involved in illegal activities when I see their banner adds on it. Why wouldn't I close my browser window and never purchase anything from them or view their content again. Why wouldn't I tell all my friends that the site is illegal and the cops are busting people going to it?

      All sarcasm aside, its entire purpose is to assassinate the character of the site and scare users into leaving it. If the police didn't think it would have any impact, they wouldn't be bothering with it. Instead, they know it will so when they get the wrong site involved, how is it not slander and libel- you know defamation of character?

    27. Re:Hilarious by antdude · · Score: 1

      Which employer is that? :P

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  3. pirated content illegally? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This site has pirated content illegally. Shut down your computer and get a life, or find a site that offers pirated content legally.

  4. Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haven't they heard of Adblock plus or Flashblock? How would I know (or care) if I was not on an official site if I turn off ad systems by defaults? But then again, if you are visiting these sites, you are most likely not looking for authentic software in the first place.

    1. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by Ignacio · · Score: 2

      They're not trying to convince the 10% that do it knowingly, they're trying to convince the 80% that don't know better.

    2. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by biodata · · Score: 2

      Citation needed. Is it true that 80% don't know better, 10% do it knowingly? What happened to the other 10%?

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    3. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 0

      Saag is better than Korma.

    4. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I'm scared to ask what they are planning on doing with the other 10 %

    5. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by Ignacio · · Score: 1

      That's the generally accepted estimate: 10% will never steal, 10% will always steal, 80% might do it given the opportunity.

    6. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the generally accepted estimate: 10% will never steal, 10% will always steal, 80% might do it given the opportunity.

      Okaaayy... Now can you cite the "generally accepted estimate" for people who pirate, since we are discussing that issue, not stealing?

    7. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Naansense

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    8. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Always* stealing seems like a lot of work.

    9. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by Mathinker · · Score: 1

      > Whether or not a physical object was stolen is useless in 2014.

      Ah, so the first-sale doctrine applies to all those legal downloads I have? Terrific!

    10. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by fuzznutz · · Score: 1

      That is fucking stealing and you know it. Whether or not a physical object was stolen is useless in 2014.

      * Citation needed

      Also could you explain why no pirate has ever been charged with theft? As I recall, most pirates that get caught have been subject to civil lawsuits, not criminal complaints.

    11. Re:Adblock Plus/FlashBlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Ghostery

  5. pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apparently the rule "innocent until proven guilty" does not apply to "websites", as evidenced by the city of london police.

    This police bunch, it is worth noting, is the police force of the "square mile", which is pretty much run by private corporations, making this essentially a private police force in government-backed livery. It is not strange that it would be acting "proactive" and "innovative" and whatnot in furtherance of private corporate goals.

    1. Re:pre-crime by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Informative

      This police bunch, it is worth noting, is the police force of the "square mile"

      Indeed. To clarify, this is specifically the police force of the small area confusingly titled the "City of London" (AKA the "square mile"), i.e. the historic, tiny core of London, long-dominated by financial businesses, and not the police force of London as a whole.

      In fact, the rest of London is served by the Metropolitan Police Service. Why would The City need its own special police force? Hmm...

      which is pretty much run by private corporations, making this essentially a private police force in government-backed livery. It is not strange that it would be acting "proactive" and "innovative" and whatnot in furtherance of private corporate goals.

      This article may also be of interest.

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    2. Re:pre-crime by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      This police bunch, it is worth noting, is the police force of the "square mile"

      Indeed. This is specifically the police force of the City of London "square mile", i.e. the historic, tiny core of London, long-dominated by financial businesses, and not the police force of London as a whole.

      In fact, the rest of London is served by the Metropolitan Police Service. Why would the City need its own special police force? Hmm...

      which is pretty much run by private corporations, making this essentially a private police force in government-backed livery. It is not strange that it would be acting "proactive" and "innovative" and whatnot in furtherance of private corporate goals.

      This article may also be of interest.

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    3. Re:pre-crime by DickBreath · · Score: 2

      Copyright enforcement and due process seem to be mutually exclusive.

      You could even say copyright enforcement is mutually exclusive with justice and proportionality.

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    4. Re:pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GB is a odd nation to say the least...

    5. Re:pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      London is not really part of GB anymore. It's nearly impossible for any normal GB person to move there; and it sucks the life (jobs, investment, infrastructure) out of the rest of the country, which is only partly compensated for by the large tax revenue it provides, - and there is now much talk of it keeping its own tax revenue at which point it would be purely parasitic.

    6. Re:pre-crime by xaxa · · Score: 2

      London ... it sucks the life (jobs, investment, infrastructure) out of the rest of the country, which is only partly compensated for by the large tax revenue it provides

      Not really. Tax revenue from London subsidises the rest of the country. But, it's a load of bankers stealing money -- it would be more accurate to say they suck money out of the whole world. Perhaps the City of London should investigate the numerous tax-avoiding companies headquartered there...

    7. Re:pre-crime by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      This nonsense again. No conspiracy theory here, and the police force is not run by corporations.

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    8. Re:pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, so its like campus police forces in the US - little mini-depts in the middle of cities that cater to a different clientele...

    9. Re:pre-crime by Mathinker · · Score: 1

      Did you just pirate yourself? How on-topic!

    10. Re:pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow so wrong it hurts.

      Please check the official documents - the City of London Police force is run by the voting wards .... 21 of 25 wards are run by corporate voters .... 4 of 21 wards are run by actual residents. Oh and the 32,000 corporate voters out number the 7,000 residential voters.

      PS In the UK it is the only local council that has a dedicated officer in parliment to remind parliment not to infringe upon the City of London and the only local council since 1969 that still allows for corporations to be considered voters.

    11. Re:pre-crime by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      No, they are governed by the law. Corporations have more sway in elections, that isn't the same as governing the police force.

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    12. Re:pre-crime by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      He who is tired of London is tired of shite. Mmm. Maybe i don't remember the quote correctly.

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    13. Re:pre-crime by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      Maybe that's why you don't often see the "Corporate Police" as a means of Corporations to enforce their will through Free Trade Agreements (which *trump* the democratic national laws) and also *enforce* these laws on the public in UK Sci-Fi movies: they already have it.

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    14. Re:pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because who gets elected has nothing to do with how they interpret, enforce, or prioritise law enforcement.

    15. Re:pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No they are not governed by the law. In the square mile they are the law and they have the explicit right to remind the UK parliment of their rights by a special officer who enforces their rights against the rest of the UK. They are not governed by the law. They have explicitly told the UK Pariliment that parliment is not allowed to infringe upon their corporate rights. Take a look why American banks took certain actions in the square mile --- because it is legal there but not legal in the US nor in any other part of the UK ..... They are the law in the City of London.

      At best they pay lip service to teh UK parliment and allow the UK parliment to pass laws that have little actual effect upon them.

    16. Re:pre-crime by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you don't understand the difference between the executive branch and legislative branch.

      Of course, cites might help.

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    17. Re:pre-crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you have changed the topic and provided no answer to my statements, except for your "cites might help".

      Allow me to respond in kind - you obviously haven't done any research on the matter and while I am a teacher I am not your teacher.

    18. Re:pre-crime by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      No idea what happened there, sorry; suspect I copied my work to a second window for replying then accidentally submitted the first as well.

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  6. Police sponsoring piracy now? by wvmarle · · Score: 1

    Unless they have some special powers, I suppose the police will have to pay for those ads, just like the regular advertisers do. This would result in the police actively sponsoring these allegedly illegal sites. Can have interesting political repercussions.

    1. Re:Police sponsoring piracy now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or they're intercepting traffic and modifying the code based on some kind of list similar to the 'blocked with court order' list.

      although that would probably just be inviting a lawsuit against for illegally modifying the content of the site...

    2. Re:Police sponsoring piracy now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...illegally modifying the content of the site...

      Like phishers?

    3. Re:Police sponsoring piracy now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't think that will be the case as they would just go down the route of getting it blocked. I think from reading a couple of articles about this is that they are trying to get as many add networks on-board to blacklist these sites and only pass on their logos etc - without paying for them. They are putting the pressure on the ad networks rather than the sites...

      I still see a problem with it though - sites will just move to other ad networks who aren't being blackmailed by the city of London Police.

    4. Re:Police sponsoring piracy now? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      I get the impression that this is a voluntary agreement with the advertisers. They don't want to sponsor anything that might arnish their valuable brands. It's not all that clear though. Seems there are 5 parties here including the police (the advertisers, the website, the banner ad wholesaler and "sunblock") but I don't know exactly who's in the group making this agreement and who gets paid.

    5. Re:Police sponsoring piracy now? by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      Unless they have some special powers, I suppose the police will have to pay for those ads, just like the regular advertisers do. This would result in the police actively sponsoring these allegedly illegal sites. Can have interesting political repercussions.

      You used the word "unless" correctly. So the police isn't going to pay. And who would be suing them?

    6. Re:Police sponsoring piracy now? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Close. It's a voluntary agreement with the ad wholesaler, with a veiled threat of finding a way to hold them liable if they don't cooperate.

    7. Re:Police sponsoring piracy now? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      No, like so-called "pirates." Modifying the content of the site and redistributing it is copyright infringement.

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  7. Block block blockity block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another reason to use AdBlock Plus.

  8. IP Crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck is "IP crime"?

    1. Re:IP Crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Intellectual property crime. Because you know, all the real crimes have been solved, now we just have to make up more of them.

    2. Re:IP Crime? by Minwee · · Score: 2

      It's what you have to do after you drink a whole lot of crime.

    3. Re:IP Crime? by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Look, crimes actually CAN be committed using computers.

      Don't believe me? Just ask anyone who has been hit over the head with a computer.

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    4. Re:IP Crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's the crime of intercepting data involving the Internet Protocol and modifying or blocking data. Because we as a civilized world finally came to realize one of the greatest crimes against humanity was manipulating or censoring what others say or think and the Internet is clearly a global medium that represents humanity's great communication, inter-connectivity breakthrough.

      Sorry, I'm just kidding. This is all about money. And fictitious, government-created property. "Intellectual" property: because it's only marginally important to protect the intellectuals work in academia--plagiarism is the higher crime there--and we care so very much about the barely intellectual multi-billion dollar entertainment industry. Oh and advancing the arts and the sciences. Because fuck knows the study of material sciences, development of new technology, etc aren't inherently spurred by the competition inherent in capitalism. Or that there's such a low barrier to entry that merely knowing this stuff is enough to fundamentally undermine the big players that are responsible for such advances.

      Get back to me when we all have nano printers and as a society actually respect academia or art at more than the most superficial level.

    5. Re:IP Crime? by gutnor · · Score: 2

      That was an accident ! Can we move on I was young, times were different back then.

    6. Re:IP Crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should ban Panasonic Toughbooks then. These notebooks can be used as a weapon.

  9. In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The police department is now financially facilitating the spread of pirated material by paying to support the sites?

  10. Well known brands? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    I think the take home message here is that in London internet users somehow ended up receiving relevant ads from well known brands.

    I seem to have nothing but crap. Right now I'm staring at an advert for a phone from a brand which is virtually unheard of (though quite prevailent, Huawei), and some company called Brocade who have something to do with bridges from what I can tell?

    Where do I get these mythical well known brands?

    1. Re:Well known brands? by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      Huawei is one of China's main phone manufacturers. The brand is quite well known around here, and apparently they try to expand globally. Their advertising is probably to create brand awareness in other parts of the world, such as where you happen to live - and considering your comment, they're succeeding.

    2. Re:Well known brands? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I know who they are, but the brand has zero recognition where I live. That is despite a large portion of the population having their products. For the most part here they produce all the 3G / 4G dongles that every other person has but they are all re-branded.

      Also the advert was for their smartphone which isn't sold here so I would say they aren't succeeding even in the slightest.

  11. what a tremendous use of police resources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Giving how much tax money all these corporations are paying, with absolutely no dodging of any taxes, it's really great to see the police devote so much time and resources to protecting these companies' revenue streams. Almost all the murderers, rapists, and thieves have been locked up. There's very little to no fraud going on in any industries, especially the financial sector who has a primary hub in London. We should definitely cheer on the police in this latest endeavour of serving and protecting corporate interests.

    1. Re:what a tremendous use of police resources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...it's really great to see the police devote so much time and resources to protecting these companies' revenue streams."

      Well, its not as if the City of London Police do a lot of crime fighting anyway considering the tiny area of their jurisdiction. Remember, the CoLP is not to be confused with the Metropolitan Police Service. The CoLP serves the financial services corporations in that district and that's about it.

    2. Re:what a tremendous use of police resources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this up

      +10 insightful

    3. Re:what a tremendous use of police resources by biodata · · Score: 2

      This is the City of London Police. The City of London is a square-mile independent state within a city. It is outside the control of parliament, owned by the banks, who have most of the voting rights within the organisation of the state, and the City of London Police is its private police force, not to be confused with the Metropolitan Police whose remit is to catch the criminals in the rest of London.

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    4. Re:what a tremendous use of police resources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And even many of the financial institutions have moved to Docklands, which is not in the City of London, so outside the jurisdiction of the CoLP.
       

  12. Instantly, adwords filters are updated.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....to include the word 'police' and their domain.

    Well that took long.

  13. Legitimate Brands? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Head over to the pirate bay to see ads for all your favorite brands...Russian women interested in American men...brought to you by Pepsi?

  14. With the current state of web advertising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No site looks legitimate. I've gotten too many promises for things that aren't real, too many threats about viruses, even downloads are confusing on some sites now, with their being shady "Download This" links to make people click on them to get something that promises to be a download manager or whatever, but is really just crapware.

    And no, no, PirateBay is not an exception.

    London Police want to do something? I'd give them worldwide jurisdiction to hunt down and kill those criminals.

  15. Long live freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is for the courts to decide, not the police, who somehow decided they can do whatever they like. Ahh look a totalitarian government, tyranny. And the people have no possible way to revolt against it because they gave up all their guns.

    They better hop they don't get rounded up on trains like Hitler did, otherwise they are just a bunch of Nazi stooges, stupid for following along with it and allowing history to repeat, especially after what Germany did to them.

    1. Re: Long live freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'MURICA is that you?

  16. Smart move by NotInHere · · Score: 1

    When adverts from well known brands appear on illegal websites, they lend them a look of legitimacy and inadvertently fool consumers into thinking the site is authentic

    A smart move to place the police logo onto the site -- Users will think that when police vouches for it, it must have spying features, and leave the page.

    But seriously: When they have control over the ad networks, they can simply take down the entire website: the ad networks have full access to the DOM. Why don't they try that?

    1. Re:Smart move by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Using some magic Ajax, you could pull the ad and see what's on it. If it's a Police ad, replace it with something different.

    2. Re:Smart move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But seriously: When they have control over the ad networks, they can simply take down the entire website: the ad networks have full access to the DOM. Why don't they try that?

      Go visit TPB and take a look. All their ads are in iframes.

      And a good thing that is, too, since they're such shitty ads from untrustworthy sources. Wouldn't you show their ad in an iframe?

      So basically, the sites that still use ads, are already dealing with your idea. Because long before some cop scumbag got the idea, a regular scumbag got the idea. ;-)

  17. Might fine police work there, Lou! by pla · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Police said the ads would make it harder for piracy site owners to make their pages look authentic

    No one confuses Rapidshare for BMG's official site. People go there specifically to download pirated content, full stop. Seeing police ads might scare a few people with the paranoia of thinking "the man" has caught them, but the other 99% of visitors will just thank the police for subsidizing their favorite warez sites.

    Truly pathetic, Boys in Blue (Hmm, do Bobbies wear blue?)


    The move comes as part of a continuing effort to stop piracy sites from earning money through advertising.

    By... Um... Buying banner ads on piracy sites? BRILLIANT!

    1. Re:Might fine police work there, Lou! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No one confuses Rapidshare for BMG's official site. People go there specifically to download pirated content, full stop. Seeing police ads might scare a few people with the paranoia of thinking "the man" has caught them, but the other 99% of visitors will just thank the police for subsidizing their favorite warez sites.

      I know that this is slashdot, and that you therefore feel justified in being an ignorant idiot and spouting off without RTFAing, and you're in quite a bit of company: lots of other idiots are saying the same stupid shit you're saying. But the article makes it clear that "Neither the police or Project Sunblock are paying the website in question to display the police message". They're just suppressing the banner display, and displaying a police message instead.

      Truly pathetic, Boys in Blue (Hmm, do Bobbies wear blue?)

      Pathetic is deciding you know how the system works without R'ing TFA, and as a result, being a F'n I.

      BRILLIANT!

      Said no one about you ever.

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    2. Re:Might fine police work there, Lou! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Neither the police or Project Sunblock are paying

      Bloody pirates!

    3. Re:Might fine police work there, Lou! by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Informative

      No one confuses Rapidshare for BMG's official site.

      No one should confuse The City of London police for an actual police force as most people imagine them, either. They are a territorial force responsible for a tiny area of Greater London as a whole that measuring a little over square mile and consists of mostly financial institutions and only a few thousand actual residents. Still, owing to their location in The City, they have developed quite a reputation for fraud investigations and also incorporate a division dealing with Intellectual Property, so other than the jurisdictional issues of interfering with websites (or at least the ads displayed on them) that are most likely hosted outside The City they actually do have the means and backing to look into this kind of thing.

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    4. Re:Might fine police work there, Lou! by pla · · Score: 1

      But the article makes it clear that "Neither the police or Project Sunblock are paying the website in question to display the police message". They're just suppressing the banner display, and displaying a police message instead.

      Yep, I made a mistake. I presumed that the police would know better than to enter into a conspiracy to commit outright theft of service and libel in their efforts to appease the recording industry. One crime doesn't justify another. Mea culpa.

      Except, in your zeal to find something in my post to go all "princess of vitriol" over, you seem to have failed to notice my key point - No one visiting piracy sites mistakes them for legit. Would you care to respond to that, or would you prefer to latch on to a typo somewhere in this post?


      Pathetic is deciding you know how the system works without R'ing TFA

      "The system" has rules we can know a priori. The police can't just choose to ignore them out of expediency. "Pathetic is" accepting criminal behavior just because it carries a thin veneer of official approval.

    5. Re:Might fine police work there, Lou! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Would you care to respond to that, or would you prefer to latch on to a typo somewhere in this post?

      Well, you're right, I was in full dick mode. I'm even sorry about it, albeit admittedly only slightly. I apologize for how, but not what I said. Yeah well, that's the best you're getting out of me this morning.

      Nobody expects the piracy sites to be legit. But a lot of people think that there are so many of them that their activity can go unnoticed. Those people are about to get an awakening, if they even take the banners seriously.

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    6. Re:Might fine police work there, Lou! by pla · · Score: 1

      I gladly accept correction, so I have no problem with your intent, if not your tone.

      We all go "full dick" sometimes, though, so, no worries. :)

    7. Re:Might fine police work there, Lou! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      So close on the color! Blue is the color worn by police in London... except for the CoLP, the ones responsible for this action. That's because the City (Not London, but a tiny district within it) is, for historical reasons, actually a semi-independant mini-state and as such get to have their own police force that is seperate from the rest of the UK police. Their color scheme is red, not blue.

      As the City is the financial district, the CoLP have a strong focus on the type of crime that happens in a financial district. Fraud, insider trading, things like that. They also devote a lot of effort to copyright and trademark enforcement, which had lead to some accusing them of being too closely tied to the corporations that effectively own the City.

  18. location, jurisdiction by rossdee · · Score: 2

    Are there a lot of pirate websites located in the city of London?

    1. Re:location, jurisdiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of pirates. Sounds reasonable.

    2. Re:location, jurisdiction by Xest · · Score: 1

      Yeah and they've been guilty of plundering billions, websites like Barclays, CitiBank, HSBC and so on.

  19. City of London police? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a really strange idea. I don't get it. I wonder if maybe the sites are run by criminal gangs the police were already trying to break up.

  20. City of London Police =/= British Police by timrod · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One thing I'd like to point out is that the City of London Police are not the same thing as the British Metropolitan Police. This was something that came up in an article a few months ago where the City of London Police were fighting against piracy. They're basically an area within London that has existed for hundreds of years under corporate rule.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

    The City of London police are basically a corporate police force with an authority that does not go beyond the corporate-controlled City of London area.

    1. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      They are a police force specific to a small area, that doesn't mean they are governed by corporations.

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    2. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are though.

    3. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by whoever57 · · Score: 3, Informative

      They are a police force specific to a small area, that doesn't mean they are governed by corporations.

      Apparently you failed to read the section on elections in the City of London:

      The City has a unique electoral system. Most of its voters are representatives of businesses and other bodies that occupy premises in the City.

      So, yes, they are governed by corporations.

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    4. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by Xest · · Score: 2

      That's not true in practice, their authority seems definitely national, possibly even global in practice.

      They've been engaged in raids well outside of the City of London including in my jurisdiction up here in Yorkshire. In fact, I took advantage of the fact we now have police crime commissioners to ask why my local tax payment via council tax to the police was being used to fund the interests of the City of London when the whole point of having police crime commissioners was to give local residents more of a say. I asked that if police forces now all have nationwide jurisdiction and that there's no localism at all on that front if they wouldn't mind returning the favour by sending our police down to the City of London to arrest some corrupt bankers and executives.

      Of course, I never heard back.

    5. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      You're right. But the fact that it is literally governed by a corporation does.

    6. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      That means little. Corporations are often set up for bookkeeping or other reasons. It's disingenuous to use that as evidence that the City of London police force is corrupt and run by "corporations".

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    7. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      I figured you'd follow the links and actually take some time to learn about the topic, so I don't think it's disingenuous of me to have left things where I did. Had you taken the time to read through the links, it would be apparent that the everyday sort of corporate management arrangement you're painting it as is not at all representative of the reality here, and that the police force is run not just by the Corporation, but also by the corporations. To quote from near the top of the page that you'd have reached with my link:

      Both businesses and residents of the City, or "Square Mile", are entitled to vote in elections

      Well now, that sounds interesting, doesn't it? To provide more details from the link that the OP gave earlier:

      The City has a unique electoral system. Most of its voters are representatives of businesses and other bodies that occupy premises in the City. Its ancient wards have very unequal numbers of voters. In elections, both the businesses based in the City and the residents of the City vote.

      The principal justification for the non-resident vote is that about 330,000 non-residents constitute the day-time population and use most of its services, far outnumbering residents, who number around 7,000. Nevertheless, the system has long been controversial. The business vote was abolished in all other UK local council elections in 1969.

      A private Act of Parliament in 2002 reformed the voting system for electing Members to the Corporation of London and received the Royal Assent on 7 November 2002. Under the new system, the number of non-resident voters has doubled from 16,000 to 32,000.

      Which is to say that businesses control about 32,000 votes compared to the residents' 7,000, with the larger businesses getting more votes on account of their having more employees. Those elections dictate who gets elected to the Common Council, and the Common Council is the body that has authority over the police force.

      So, in a very real sense, the entrenched corporations have direct control over the elections, allowing them to put the people they want in power. Suggesting otherwise is to deny the obvious.

    8. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      I admit I did not read your links, because I have seen this same nonsense theory pop up on /. numerous times before, and have read those links in the past.

      The link and explanation RE the Common Council is interesting, thank you. Still, I only see evidence that this allows the corporations to have more influence over the City of London Police, it still is not the same thing as governing them.

      When people make that claim, they make it seem like rest of laws in the country have no influence on the CoL police, and that simply isn't true. They are still accountable to higher powers and laws.

      Do you have any information on arrestable offenses or crimes in The City of London that could not be made by the Metropolitan Police Force?

      Any practical evidence of the corporations influence on the City of London police force benefiting corporations over people?

      I think it's a terrible thing that corporations have this much influence on any police force, but I don't think it's fair to say they govern the police force. They are different things.

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    9. Re:City of London Police =/= British Police by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Do you have any information on arrestable offenses or crimes in The City of London that could not be made by the Metropolitan Police Force?

      I do not. I have no firsthand info. I've heard some off-hand comments from Londoners and looked into the topic yesterday before I started posting here, so it's likely you have a broader knowledge than I do on the subject. Even so, I'll point out that the arrestable offenses in the City don't need to be different for a corporate influence to be at play.

      Because they control the vote, they can dictate public policy, but, as you mentioned, they must do so within the bounds of the laws of the country. As such, while they may not be able to make up a slew of new crimes to arrest people for, they can still choose to selectively enforce the laws they have, or spend an inordinate amount of time focusing on preventing illegal activity that most other police forces wouldn't bother with. The latter is what's at play here, which is to say, they spend more time and energy focusing on crimes that harm the corporations than is common in police forces elsewhere. There's nothing illegal about that (nor would I necessarily assert that it is corrupt of them to do so), but it is out of alignment with what the general population wants and expects.

      As for influencing vs. governing, I agree that they are different. I think it's apparent that the corporations have a strong influence, at the very least. Whether or not they are governing seems to me to be a question of whether or not you consider a voting bloc who always wins to be governing. If the voters are consistent in showing up to vote as a bloc and are putting their hand-picked people into power each time, they aren't governing directly, but their influence would be so strong at that point that the difference is really just semantic, not practical.

  21. City of London Police Metropolitan Police by wizzdude · · Score: 0

    It is worth stressing that: The City of London A city called London, capital of the UK and City of London Police Metropolitan Police (the police force for London). The City of London is a square mile of land governed by a plutocracy. The actions of their police force does not surprise me.

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  22. Surely Adblock and Noscript will... by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...take care of this nuisance. Who in their right mind allows third party sites to run in their browser anyway?

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  23. Re:City of London Police not eq Met Police by wizzdude · · Score: 2

    Argh! Forgot to check for unicode stripping. Corrected.

    It is worth stressing that: The City of London is not equal to A city called London, capital of the UK. The City of London Police is not equal to Metropolitan Police, the police force for London.

    The City of London is a square mile of land governed by a plutocracy. The actions of their police force does not surprise me.

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  24. There's no such thing as "Illegal" sites by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Websites by themselves aren't "illegal". Using those terms gives undue legitimacy to copyright maximalists. What is meant here by "illegal" is that they host content which may be infringing on copyright.

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    1. Re:There's no such thing as "Illegal" sites by Ignacio · · Score: 1

      I *want* to agree with you, but...

    2. Re: There's no such thing as "Illegal" sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If enough people with enough money say something is illegal, then it is illegal. Sorry, that's how the real world works.

  25. Misleading title by JigJag · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hey editors, the City of London Police is NOT the same as the London Police. To get a good understanding of the difference, please view The (secret) City of London, Part 1: History (less than 5 min) and then The (secret) City of London, Part 2: Government (less than 6 min).

    JigJag

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    1. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The naming doesn't help. It's a bit like if I started a new company called "The Internet Giant Google", and expected editors around the World to no longer use that phrase to refer to plain "Google".

  26. More biased than bulgaria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The City of London "Police" is more biased than any other Police force in the EU. The City of London has created a world-spanning tax haven network. Why don't they investigate that? Instead they are over-eager in stopping the small man's crime.

    1. Re:More biased than bulgaria by biodata · · Score: 1

      The City of London Corporation is outside the control of parliament, and the representatives of 21 of its 25 wards are entirely voted for by corporations, not individual voters who live there. The Corporation has a representative called the Rememberancer who sits behind the Speaker of the House of Commons, presumably with the job of 'remembrancing' the commoners about who's really in charge.

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  27. Based on syndication network by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems to be based on an agreement between the syndication network and police. I'm sure the criminals behind pirate sites will quickly just switch to different syndication partners.

  28. Do they mean www.projectsunblock.com by ramriot · · Score: 1

    Do they mean http://www.projectsunblock.com... ?

    Seems likely, and if so the ad serving network would have to cooperate in allowing sunblocks JS to be served to client browsers. I can only home the Met's and Cities finest have a 100% accurate blocklist, because it only takes one high profile false-positive and a suit for loss of earnings due to illegal seizure of assets to drain sunblock dry.

  29. Authentic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Police said the ads would make it harder for piracy site owners to make their pages look authentic. "

    If there's a big anti-piracy warning at the top of a site, then I will know I'm in the right place!

    1. Re:Authentic? by ruir · · Score: 1

      For sure, because, you know, people goes to "piracy" sites to get authentic goods.

  30. Ad block by Aryden · · Score: 1

    and it doesn't matter.

  31. As long as theres no such thing as public domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there shall be no such thing as piracy.

  32. Waste of time by Hamsterdan · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty sure this will work as well as the unskippable FBI warning on DVD movies.

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    1. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's as irrelevant as everyone else who keeps going on about adblock/etc on here.

      The point is that the people running these sites are running them (at least partly) because they make money off advertising. Regardless of whether people actually take notice of these police banners, this system is blocking the ad revenue stream for the owner.

    2. Re:Waste of time by GNious · · Score: 1

      Only thing unskippable are the ads on Disney DVDs ...

  33. Changing The Controversy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who has noticed that the dialogue has been shifted to "Pirates are making money" ?
    This is an attempt to introduce a new meme so that it can be later built up:
    "Those fat-cat pirates in their fancy cars and big homes are profiting on the backs of poor starving IP holders"...

  34. Pretty neat ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    While there's an opportunity to debate the good and bad of it, tapping into the advertising thread of web sites is novel to me. The legality question is similar to what WOT does, right? The plugin warns me about a site's reputation but I do have the option to proceed.

    I wonder if any sites have filed suit against WOT?

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  35. "replacing" ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can the site owners sue because their site has been hijacked?

  36. Such good use of our taxes by ruir · · Score: 1

    A tax is already levied in blank CDs and media, I wonder why our taxes have to be misused for the Police to work for the medias conglomerates for free.

    1. Re:Such good use of our taxes by ledow · · Score: 1

      Er... is there a UK tax on blank CD's and media?

      I'm not sure there is.

    2. Re:Such good use of our taxes by ruir · · Score: 1

      Actually you are right, UK and Luxembourg are the only exemptions in Europe, apparently. Nevertheless, I dont know why are ISPs and forces of order working for free for the media conglomerates, but we fully well know who foots the bill.

  37. Need copies ASAP! by GNious · · Score: 1

    I think I need copies of these banner-ads, and pay Google/whoever to put them on legit sites!

  38. why do they even care? by jsepeta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it's silly for the state to jump in and spend so much time, effort, and money on what is essentially a failure of business to demonstrate to people that their content is worth purchasing. free market rules, y'all

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  39. Andy Fyfe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any relation to Barny Fife?

  40. London Police by bl968 · · Score: 1

    They should have evey right to do so for sites located in London. The London police have no legal authority to enforce laws outside their jurisdiction.

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  41. Re:City of London by alva_edison · · Score: 1

    The City of London is a semi-autonomous part of London which has special rules, and a separate government. https://www.google.com/url?sa=...

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  42. Waste of time by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Over time you link banner in with a cookie, flash cookie and database cookie folders.
    ie as with the first gen flash cookies you get a a unique ID and can be tracked online for a while.
    What was once online marketing activities in 100KB deep in a browser is now todays police work.

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  43. Changing The Controversy by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Yes with the flow of cash old and new laws become an option. So you have a rush to set all aspects of streaming, p2p, downloading to a cash "moving" criminal legal standing.

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  44. why do they even care? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    The gov cares as the pay TV monopoly zones see having their wealth protected from all other providers.
    You pay for months of pay tv to enjoy a new show per season. You dont get to enjoy each show from another nations computer company in near real time.
    So expect to see a lot of pay tv efforts locally and internationally to protect each networked thiefdom .

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  45. AdBlock & Ghostery = Inferior... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vs. a tool that not only aids security, but also speed, reliability, & even anonymity (more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons + even shoring up DNS redirect weakness):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

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    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

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    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

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    ...apk

  46. It was about time, darn swaschbucklers! by Optali · · Score: 1

    It was about time somebody did anything against piracy. These bucaneers and freebooters infest the seven seas and are a threat to honest seafarers. Aye!

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  47. meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's a shame the Detective Chief's first name is not Barney