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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Premieres On Linux, 2 Years After Windows
An anonymous reader writes Counter-Strike: Global Offensive has finally been released for Linux two years after its Windows debut. The game is reported to work even on the open-source Intel Linux graphics drivers, but your mileage may vary. When it comes to the AMD and NVIDIA drivers, NVIDIA continues dominating for Linux gaming over AMD with Catalyst where there's still performance levels and other OpenGL issues.
Lately I've been addicted to Team Fortress 2.
Runs *flawlessly* native under Linux. Fastest load times compared to windows.
Such a blast.
It is great to see Linux gaining more traction when it comes to gaming. The number of games on steam that support Linux are getting quite numerous. Maybe we will eventually see Linux used as much as Windows for gaming in the future.
What OpenGL issues, exactly? The only ones I've had recently are with some nvidia-specific stuff for surface mapping, but that was in a coding demo. For the actual games, modern AMD/Radeon drivers seem to do just fine, and are actually sometimes less of a pain than the nVidia ones for installation.
So, if you want to really take advantage of the hardware you 've paid for, you 've got to go Nvidia. All the others are basically frauds when it comes to Linux support. So, why so much Nvidia hate in the community? Isn't having a Linux system that's 99.9% open-source and has killer graphics better than having a system that's 100% open-source but doesn't allow you to take advantage of the GPU hardware?
It's in beta.
It has not yet been officially announced, and the Steam page does not yet have a Tux icon.
That is also why "your mileage may vary".
Bugs can be reported here.
For many people here open source is an important ethical decision, and a GPU driver is kind of a core component for an operating system.
haha
Those people need to get laid.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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There are ONLY open source Intel graphics drivers... and their mileage is great. And everyone knows by now that NVidia proprietary drivers are better than AMD's, and the open source AMD drivers are better than NVidia's. Thanks for sprinkling this announcement with troll bait.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
...and you should check a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia.
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2 to 5 years seems to be the average time to port software to Linux.
Since you're offering, bend over.
Considering it's multiplayer, it's important to consider how many people actually buy this, instead of just bragging about "Linux on the Desktop."
Methinks Linux gaming is pretty niche at the moment, so any multiplayer game wouldn't benefit much from going Linux, unless there's cross-platform integration.
This type of thing, games ported or made MORE for Linux for that mythical "year of Linux on the desktop" imo... & I am *SURE* that I'm NOT alone in it either.
Doesn't take a "big brain" to realize it's probably 1 of only a FEW THINGS holding Linux down vs. Windows' dominance (@ least in the home desktop market) - games, & yes, some other softwares, but games dominate home buyer decisions in computing to a large degree...
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P.S.=> I wish Linux well & I even *admire* Linus Torvalds... why? He made his vision happen, & HE doesn't play "politically correct" - he's a straight shooter on things (especially regarding chastising those who attack him, OR, with devs that aren't doing it totally right etc. - et al - which takes COURAGE in today's "politically correct" BULLSHIT society).
So yes: I wish Linux well, mainly ONLY for 1 reason - competition CAN be good, to keep products improving for everyone/"the masses"... not telling anyone here anything they don't realize already, I am sure, but HAD to "sound-off" on it here is all, & yes - I'd actually *LIKE* to see it happen for the reasons above (everything improves)... apk
FINALLY!
It's the "two years later" of the Linux desktop!
now i can play CS in Linux Mint :)
It's still the same description:
premiere noun \same as 1premiere\
: the first time a film, play, television show, etc., is shown or performed
It premiered TWO YEARS AGO on Windows.
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So I will continue boycotting any Steam or Valve releases until they release all source code under the GPLv3.
It's submitted by timothy, never expect quality.
Killer graphics, for a limited time. Once they stop supporting it at their discretion, you're hosed, and without a video driver, you need to buy new hardware.
I've been burned already with my old laptop. Not keen on that happening again.
The problem is that the 0.1% closed source part _will_ eventually stop working whenever you want to use the new flashy display server with rotating cubes, a screen with more pixels, or a newfangled power management architecture. Some people value being able to chose when their hardware becomes obsolete rather than waiting for NVIDIA to obsolete it for them by refusing to provide updated/compatible drivers, even if it means that they have to choose alternative hardware that is 4 times slower.
Considering the state of slashdot these days I think we need two new moderation options.
+1 Owned and -1 Shill.
For one thing Geforce 6/7 receive driver updates till 2017, though they're limited to critical bugs and migration to new Xorg and kernel versions. Which is not that bad. That's about 11 to 13 years support. Only problem with that is those particular cards lack OpenGL features needed to run Valve games (except for the Quake 1 based one) whereas they'd work perfectly under Windows and Direct3D.
Geforce 8 and 200 series have entered legacy support too, but still works.
When they're not supported you still have the open source driver. Not made by nvidia, but it works. Better than be stuck in VESA at least..
Because it's too late. We did all of the hard work before nVidia finally caved, and still they're not trying that hard.
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I just purchased an NVIDIA card for my Linux gaming machine... I tried to get my AMD card to play games at an acceptable speed for months, but it's just not working out. AMD still is a bit ahead of NVIDIA for Windows (price/performance), but the ratio flips on Linux. My GTX 760 should arrive Thursday, whee!
"I will trust Google to 'do no evil' until the founders no longer run it." Hello Alphabet.
People don't choose. The introduction of KMS caused a lot of GPU drivers to stop working. Stop deluding yourself that OSS is a "magic support pill" that makes everything better. It only matters as long as the developers care, just like with the closed drivers.
I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
Meanwhile, it's been hard to find any of those series of cards for about 2 years now, and for the 3 years previous to that, the 8000 and 200 series were decidedly low end. I have a 3 year old 560Ti that was decidedly "mid-range" when I got it. If you're still piddling around with anything older than three generations before that, go get a better card from the budget bin for $25. Then update your drivers, because you're out of EOL-land again.
Do not worry, you can still use your Riva TNT2 or whatever with Nouveau. That is, as long as you can find a decent motherboard that still has an AGP slot. On the other hand, if your card is less than about a decade old, the proprietary driver likely still has at least legacy support for it.
This. A lot of people seem to want to paint nVidia in a much better light than they deserve. In reality, AMD is doing far more for the state of OSS drivers now that they finally realized how shambling and decrepit proprietary ones are. Even Intel has done more to produce decent OSS drivers. nVidia is still letting OSS developers blindly grope around trying to reverse engineer drivers, while their proprietary ones aren't even close to feature-complete, barely support cards once they're a couple years old, and often require a long stretch of time before they're deemed compatible with up-to-date kernels, which discourages people from updating to the latest security fixes just because they won't have ANY hardware video acceleration.
It premiered TWO YEARS AGO on Windows.
Which is why this is its "premiere on Linux" instead of its "premiere".
Seriously, your argument is ridiculous.
Its like "correcting" someone who says "this is the first time I've ever drunk wine from a tin mug" by saying "you don't know what 'first' means, you drank wine from a glass years ago."
What happened to ATI/AMD? I know the company open sourced its video drivers years ago. Why are they still crappy? :(
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The term you are looking for is "Free Software". Not "open source".
It's all irrelevant anyway, AMDs Open Source support sucks, and hasn't been stable. Nouveau's Open Source support is actually better. Go look at the Mesa Matrix http://www.mesamatrix.net/ Nouveau supports more OpenGL features on their open source cards than AMD does. The only thing that's been holding the Nouveau cards back has been power management and even that's not a huge issue, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org... notice that power management is almost complete on all current gen cards going right back to the Geforce 3/4 series! (admittedly Geforce 3/4 has stalled in part, but the other cards are all close to completion) So the legacy support level is fantastic as is the current card support. Nouveau has been also very rapid at making all features available to the newest generation of cards very quickly. I expect that by this time next year, they will have working OpenGL 4.2-4.3 support, and power management will be completed. Whether Nvidia has posted meaningful contributions to the project or not is almost irrelevant. The reality is that open source Nvidia is coming and it's going to be great.
That would required /. ID of -1...
Could you try the opensource drivers (radeonsi , etc.) I've read on Phoronix that it works decently with Counter-Strike.
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Go look at the Mesa Matrix http://www.mesamatrix.net/ Nouveau supports more OpenGL features on their open source cards than AMD does.
Both Nvidia and AMD recent drivers (r600 and radeonsi) are 100% green on all OpenGL features that are currently officially supported (OpenGL 3.x)
They only have red spots for feature that are for OpenGL versions that aren't supported by mesa yet any way (OpenGL 4.x) - in other words, that's still getting worked on. And given the current pace of development, both cards will support all opengl 4.x feature with short time difference between each other.
(Note: the case of r300 is a bit different. It's an older card generation (The various Radeon 9600/9800/X) and actually lacks some features like unified shaders - unlike the nv50/nvc0/r600/radeonsi cards. So you'll never see 100% features support anyway. The hardware simply isn't there)
The problem aren't *features*. The problem is performance.
The only thing that's been holding the Nouveau cards back has been power management and even that's not a huge issue,
Except for the part that re-clocking is critical to get decent performance out of a card. And it doesn't work reliably yet. The usability is, according to current benchmark at phoronix, quite random.
That's not nouveau team's fault, though. Nvidia has started releasing documentation only very recently (and almost only about Tegra).
Without documentation Nouveau team has to reverse engineer almost everything, and that's not an easy task as shown by the actual realworld performance.
Nouveau has been also very rapid at making all features available to the newest generation of cards very quickly.
Except that real world test tend to show that the actual result will vary greatly between differnt cards.
I expect that by this time next year, they will have working OpenGL 4.2-4.3 support,
And probably the other drivers will have it too around the same time frame...
(You know, the whole point of Gallium being modular and parts being re-usable. Once Mesa starts supporting a feature for one card, getting the other to support is a lot easier: basically only upgrading the backend)
Whether Nvidia has posted meaningful contributions to the project or not is almost irrelevant. The reality is that open source Nvidia is coming and it's going to be great.
It *IS* relevant. Without any help from Nvidia, the work for Nouveau developer is much harder (as seen with the current problems regard re-clocking), and more bumpy accross the landscape of varied graphic cards.
As AMD provides documentations to the radeonsi/r600 developers (in addition to having some developer on their own payroll), it's much easy for them.
To the point that AMD considers the opensource driver as a valid alternative for older hardware whose support has been dropped in recent catalysts.
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Intel is NOT a fraud, except that the 3D hardware is not as powerful. Otherwise they are the best of the 3 (Nvidia, AMD, Intel), because they at least have a full open source stack.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.