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Former Infosys Recruiter Says He Was Told Not To Hire US Workers
dcblogs writes: A lawsuit by four IT workers alleging that outsourcing firm Infosys favored hiring Indian workers over U.S. workers now includes an account from a former Infosys recruiter about the alleged practice. It includes accounts by Samuel Marrero, who worked in Infosys's talent acquisition unit from 2011 until May 2013, of meetings with executives at the India-based IT services firm. Marrero and other recruiters "frequently complained" to higher-ups at Infosys during these weekly calls that many of the highly qualified American candidates they had presented were being rejected in favor of Indian prospects. In response to one of these complaints, Infosys' global enterprise lead allegedly said, "Americans don't know $#!%," according to the lawsuit. Infosys has denied allegations that it discriminates.
Management doesn't know shit.
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It's an outsourcing firm. Of course they'll prefer candidates from India. That's kind of the point. Americans can't compete in that arena.
If Infosys is in fact guilty of discriminating against American workers by refusing to hire American workers for American jobs, then such malfeasance should be punished by confiscation of all of Infosys assets located in the United States, and by banning Infosys or any subsidiary of Infosys from operating on American soil.
Unfortunately, we can't just kill Infosys because they are a foreign corporation based in India. But we can damn well kick them out, and we probably should.
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So what, in many cases people choose mates and friends based on their race preferences.
Many clients choose which businesses they will deal with based on the origin business owner (some prefer to frequent or to avoid Indian or Middle Eastern or Asian establishments for example).
People must be able to discriminate however they see fit and I am talking about people in their individual lives and I am also talking about businesses obviously.
Yes, it should be possible to discriminate based on race, absolutely. Race, age, sex, any form of discrimination must be absolutely legal (and by the way it is unconstitutional, illegal for the federal government to regulate businesses and the entire concept of interstate commerce does not allow government to regulate business, it is only there to prevent individual States from erecting barriers of entry, which are still all there, so the federal government is not doing what it's job is and instead it constantly harasses businesses for no reason whatsoever).
Now, government must not be able to discriminate against anybody based on age, race, sex, ethnicity but that is also constantly happening for example with the war on drugs, with the so called 'war on terrorism', with every war that government runs.
Government must not be able to discriminate because it destroys the rule of law, destroys the free market (which is already destroyed in USA of-course) and eventually destroys the economy and thus the society. Government must be forced to treat people equally regardless of their natural characteristics, individuals must not be forced into anything.
If you will not accept government forcing you to marry any particular person or to frequent any particular business then it is inconsistent for you to be cheering for the government forcing a business to either hire or to serve any particular person. Cheering for it is the real discrimination and helps the government to grow its gigantic poisonous tentacles that end up stealing and murdering everything on their path.
You can't handle the truth.
Have you seen how many companies that have outsourced to save money have ended up cancelling it because they need people that can actually do the work and not just phone answering list monkeys? There are more than a few.
Before any of the hypersensitive cretins that love to take everything the wrong way start yelling about racist comment or something equally inane, a "list monkey" is some that just reads down a list or script and displays no more skills than a trained monkey pushing buttons, aka a "list monkey". If you don't know what a trained monkey is, you are a sad excuse for someone that is supposed to be literate.
Harley-Davidson laid off 125 Americans and replaced them with people on H-1 visas from Infosys. H-D's biker customers aren't going to like this once the word gets out.
I would probably agree, given that the Indian government had to release a PSA music video called "Take the poo to the loo" in an effort to combat the epidemic of its citizens defecating in the streets. They definitely know their shit.
"Americans don't know $#!%"
If that's true, why is India scrambling to send all their children to U.S. colleges and universities? Sounds like just plain ole racism to me. I hope they get fined out the wazoo, have all their current contracts revoked and end up being banned from doing business in the U.S. (although the latter is probably never going to happen, we can dream).
The goal of Infosys employees is not to provide solutions to Infosys's marks^b^b^b^b^bcustomers. No, the goal is to push projects over budget while giving customers just enough hope and management cover that they reup for the next phase. Something that a couple of American type-A coders would have done in six months could take a team of 50 offshore Infosys consultants 3 years, so why would Infosys ever staff its ranks with competency?
...talking like employees are anything but serfs and like the USA is some sort of democracy instead of an increasingly minor subsection of an international oligarchy.
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while you're clearly joking that statement if taken seriously would imply that classification is superior otherwise the privilege wouldn't exist.
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Dont' forget having five years of experience in a new technology that came out six months ago.
You forgot Somalia! Yeah, strawman argument is complete. Because it is all or nothing!
It is a global market, because labor in China (and elsewhere) is cheap. Move your factory to China, build the product saving tons in labor, increase profit, lower prices. Move your factory to China, avoid environmental regulations in the US, and the US is polluted with China Smog, and you get to save on costs, increasing profit, lowering prices.
Most decisions aren't stupid. See the above, moving to China was "smart", right up and until American Workers can't buy what you're manufacturing, because nobody has jobs. Short Term decisions keeping you competitive isn't stupid, Long term decisions that put you out of business aren't stupid either. What is stupid is having policies as if they have no impact on costs of doing business and doing proper cost benefit analysis. Which is part of the point I was trying to make.
Having Kyoto rules in place in the US, makes no sense when China and India (1/3 Population of the world) are busy taking all the slack created by companies unable to compete ... globally ... because it costs them a lot more. At that point, you're saying you'd rather them go out of business, the jobs moved to China, and China export its smog to the US. It solves NOTHING while making policy makers feel good (while flying around on corporate jets, living in mansions).
I don't believe what you're trying to say I believe. There has to be some sort of balanced approach to global economies and managing to grow our economy with good paying jobs so we don't have to have 50 million people on food stamps because good jobs are gone and the only place hiring is Walmart (selling Chinese goods).
If you believe the 5.9 % unemployment rate is accurate, by all means, keep voting more Obama and Democrats, and blaming evil corporations and republicans. EVERYONE has a role in our collective failure.
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I mean c'mon. They make money exploiting workers from India, making them work for peanuts, dangling a green card in front of them. I am sharing a cubicle with one of these folks and he is making 2/3 of what I make doing the same shit I am doing. Guess where the remaining 1/3 is going to. It doesn't need rocket science to understand how these outfits are meking their money. The bad thing is, Facebooks and Microsofts of the American economy is pressing for laxation of the H1B visa quotas. And we end up with ass hole of companies like Infosys and Tata Consulting, stealing jobs from American workers. A real pity. I hope the politicians will get the heads out of the asses of these companies and think about the people they are representing for a change.
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Then they won't mind paying annual H-1B visa fees in the amount of 250% of said worker's salary.
I mean, their argument is there there exists no local workers, or even workers within the *entire* US, that they can hire that could perform the same job.
they know, they choose to ignore it and pretend otherwise. But it's painfully obvious by anyone in the tech industry that the H1-B program exists to replace expensive local talent with cheaper imports. And yes, I've heard from more than one recruiter that they weren't hiring Americans for certain position, and seen posts looking for an H1-B specifically. What am I gonna do? I'm in no position to sue over it...
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the schools in India churn out pre-trained folks with a very, very specific skill set. They also can train at a fraction of the cost of a US employee since the cost of living in India (thanks to rampant poverty) is much much lower. We Americans just live too well. Now if we can just put half our population in tent cities and take away their access to clean water maybe we can compete...
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little or no accent. Dirt cheap and native speakers. The only problem is the floods mean you'll have to keep a small group of Indians for backup and put up with their accents every now and then. But they're fine technically and all you really need to do is get a remote desktop session going and then they stop talking.
We're all easily replaced these days. I wish more people realized that and pushed for protectionism. We employees are not global, while our employers _are_. At this rate they're gonna win this fight, and we're gonna lose. We'll be back to the 1800s. Nasty, brutish and short lives.
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